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Double post repeated below.

Dtruthspeaker:
If you think about it, you would see that you are not thinking well for first when you are found guilty and condemnd, your problem is who will save you and you really do not care how you are saved.

And secondly, it is not a fellow death row inmate or wanted person like yorself who can save you as we say "you wey never save yourself na im you won save another person? Abeg save yourself first ".

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This is incoherent and I must upbraid you for writing all too often in a most scattered, unstructured and incomprehensible manner which seems like the musings of a child or child animation.

So in all these you are the ones one who looses if no salvation is given like a jws refusing life saving blood transfusion.

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Address this to Maxindhouse

PHIPEX:
https://x.com/i/status/2034664468601311447

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Thx

MaxInDHouse:
Meanwhile only people who knew God's laws and lived by them (RIGHTEOUS) and those who don't know God's laws but lived by their God's given conscience will be allowed to get that fair chance in Paradise. Act 24:15

Wicked people who have rendered their conscience dead will not be raised back to life they have had their fair share in life but proved to be useless! Psalms 9:17

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This is inconsistent. Why one rule for one group and another rule for other groups?
Jesus made it clear through the Parable of the Good Samaritan that all this is nonsense.

tctrills:
You are not a prophet, God doesn't speak to you and you have zero spiritual authority.

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How do you know this?

If the wages of sin is death then there is no escaping. For the demands of justice, it must be fulfilled. Is it painful, scary and maybe unbelievable to you but that's the clear definition of justice, every crime must be paid for before forgiveness is granted. Using words like antediluvian caveman ritualistic only express your disgust and opinion, still you don't seem to be able to clearly explain what wrong with it.

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I have said it repeatedly: yes justice is that a crime must be paid for: by the criminal.

PS: Why are you not quoting me but just putting in bold what I write?

LordReed:
Bro it is more insidious than you think. Google "tobacco effect on the brain" and get an eye full.

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Errrrr. . . . .well, I know what you mean and I dont need to google it (as an OG ) but come on, in terms of mind altering effect, it cant light a candle to alcohol or narcotics.

Kukutente23:
FFK is calling someone a political prostitute and glutton
What is my "friend and brother" with a short fuse smoking these days
Let's be real. Dele Momodu still has more credibility than FFK and Reno
At least he never joined PDP when they were the ruling party and left APC when they were the ruling party on principles and has not gone back since while Reno and FFK have been seen to join the PDP and then APC when they were the ruling party on two occasions. So it's easy to spot who is being pushed by their stomach

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It was amusing reading what the chap wrote because it sounded as though he was describing himself.

MaxInDHouse:
The simple question is:

Are you saying there is no evil person who lived and died without your Karma?

God's word never mention "Karma"

So it's not what you are thinking!🙂

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In addition to my response above, let me say that many traditions have different perceptions of how this karma plays out. In Hindu tradition for example, it does not have to be within one lifetime, it is stretched over many reincarnations.

MaxInDHouse:
The simple question is:

Are you saying there is no evil person who lived and died without your Karma?

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Personally I am not God so I dont know everything and I cannot know the answer to this question. I am just telling you that that is what scripture teaches and I have given you many verses that say so unless you want to say scripture is wrong or false.

God's word never mention "Karma"

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Must it say the exact word when it describes it?

I hope you know there are many things that scripture does not mention but by description, the stance of scripture is clear.

You position is just like saying scripture does not mention not smoking marjuana or tobacco or sniffing cocaine.
But scripture talks about keeping the body healthy and holy!

tctrills:
None of these verses say what you want them to say. These verses teach personal responsibility but that did not teach that forgiveness is impossible.
Repentance is an aspect of personal responsibility. I understand you don't believe in repentance that is abundantly taught in the bible

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Repentance is not a problem, it is simply not tied to the ritual murder of anyone.
That in itself is an absurd and barbaric concept.

Haba. That you will only be forgiven when one innocent man is murdered in a gruesome torturous manner and you buy into it? Think about it for heavens sake, stop and think! What sort of antediluvian caveman ritualistic teaching is that? ? ? ?

MaxInDHouse:
One simple question:

Are you saying everyone who happens to be wicked must suffer or experience your so called Karma?🙂

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This is what is taught in the bible.

It can only be tempered by genuine repentance as per scripture.

Tempered I said, not wholly removed.

LordReed:
Bro tobacco has mind altering effects, that is why it becomes addictive.

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Errrrr.... Very limited by comparison. Very very limited. And I would not personally call them mind altering effects. I would simply say habit forming effects. I know for a fact that for many smokers of tobacco its the mere relaxation of pulling that deep breath in and pushing it out coupled with the taste.

This is a very different thing from getting high either on alcohol or narcotics both of which can and do seriously change your perception and impulses.

MaxInDHouse:
Karma is not what the Bible is talking about o!😟

God's word is talking to His worshipers who feels they can be wiser than Him so when any of God's servants refuses to accept His counsel such a person will not be protected from the consequences of his or her own actions.

Many wicked people have lived wickedly and died without any punishment apart from the common natural death affecting everyone but no servant of God in the Bible escapes the consequences of disobedience.

That's what the Bible is saying Sir!🙂

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You are the one preaching a gospel of your own making, the many verses I quoted speak for themselves.

LordReed:
Yeah as if tobacco is any less a drug. Tobacco has psychoactive effects like any other recreational drug. To then harshly punish one over the other is hypocrisy of a fairly high order

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Smoking tobacco is bad for the health, but having been a long term smoker of tobacco myself in the past, I dont think it is right to equate it with mind altering substances like alcohol or narcotics.

MaxInDHouse:
So who sets the Kamal law you talked about?🤔

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The Bible itself preaches Karma -

Galatians 6:7–8: "Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life."

2 Corinthians 9:6: "Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously."

Matthew 7:1–2: "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."

Luke 6:38: "Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."

Obadiah 1:15: "As you have done, it will be done to you; your deeds will return upon your own head."

Proverbs 22:8: "Whoever sows injustice reaps calamity, and the rod they wield in fury will be broken."

Proverbs 26:27: "Whoever digs a pit will fall into it; if someone rolls a stone, it will roll back on them."

Job 4:8: "As I have observed, those who plow evil and those who sow trouble reap it."

Thus you can see that the teaching of Karma is spread all over scripture.

Tctrills you should note all the above scripture which should tell you that there is nothing like the propitiatory sacrifice for sins.

tctrills:
Again, I will have to disagree with everything you wrote here. What is Justice? It is equal application of the law to all. So, as long as no human is deprived of the blessings of Christ's sacrifice, then God is just.
Again according to you, who is the injustice commited against? Is it us humans or Christ His son? Please answer this one.
Yes, whatever we sow, that we shall reap also applies to having a repentant heart. If you sow repentance, you will reap forgiveness of sin.
Do you understand it now?

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1. Repentance does not require a ritual in which someone is killed first.

2. It is of course unjust against Jesus, that is assuming it is true which it is certainly not, it is a myth.

3. The analogy of a phone is bad because it is a not a living thing. We understand that the death referred to was the death of living things.

4. I see that you are determined to be unreasonable, so let us leave these points. The other repugnant aspects of Christian teaching are -

- The doctrine of the Trinity which is blasphemous

- The teaching of eternal hell fire which is barbaric

- The ritual of communion which is negatively pagan in essence, to the extent that it is said to be a representation of eating human flesh and drinking human blood

- The teaching that you must love Jesus more than you love your parents

- The doctrine of inherited sin, which casts blame on the innocent

Let us continue with these, bearing in mind that the worst is the one already discussed: namely the idea that the murder of a man acquits you of your sins.

Truthseeker10:
Since you accept the teachings of Christ, why do humans die and what is the solution to death?

MaxInDHouse:
He will not respond to this!😀

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In my humble view humans die because matter is mutable, transient and not self existent. The body being matter must thus go through the cycles that all matter goes through. Thats all.

Let me just add that I dont believe the body is the human being. The body is like a covering, a dressing which the human wears in the worlds of matter to be able to work therein. Death therefore is little more than removing a covering, like taking off a shirt.

TcTrills:

tctrills:
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This is a foolish argument because the bible never claims that animal death was as a result of their sin. And to show how foolish the argument is, I asked you about the death of your phone battery.

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How is it a foolish revert?

The bible specifically says that the wages of sin is death.

Therefore the question should naturally be asked why animals die, if they have not sinned.

It is a very natural follow up question and simply getting angry and declaring the question foolish does not solve the matter. Later you will call me childish and emotional and teenage. Address the clear inference and the clear issue.

If someone argued that lions are guilty of breaking God's commandment 'Thou shall not kill,' wouldn't you ask if the person was using drugs? That's exactly how I see your linking the death of animals to sin. It's a zero argument.

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The instruction not to kill refers to murder that is well known. It never extended to killing animals for food for example, did it?

Look, you have to grapple with the simple fact that death was not known of as per scripture until sin came, and thus the question remains whether the sin of man also introduced death to animals.

Or do you specifically posit that animals were already subject to death while man was immortal?

Just be clear, rather than flinging insults.

Your opinion. But in truth how can you repent without the one who paid for your skin forgiving you? How is that possible.

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What is repentance if not contrition, seeking forgiveness and a change of heart and ways?
How does that require the ritual murder of a man first?

Explain yourself

Beyond using words that don't really mean much like calling Christ's sacrifice a pagan practice, can you point to anything wrong or immortal with God sending His Son to pay for our sins?
It shows love, mercy and justice all at the same time.

As a father, would you give your son a task that is really hard but at the end, it will big him great glory and honour and save the lives of many? Sign me on any day, I will do that.

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God is said to be perfectly just. It is not justice to make one man pay for the crimes of another man. According to scripture, God is not mocked and whatsoever a man sows the same shall he reap. That is karma and justice. Therefore it is incompatible with justice to perform a ritual whereby one person dies for another.

PHIPEX:
Didn't you read what you signed?

UK papers are reporting something else, who should we believe?

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Any link pls?

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Kobicove:
Which recent president in Nigeria did not travel extensively during his tenor?

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I dont think Yaradua and GEJ were quite like that.

SmartyPants:
This is different - this agreement is for the repatriation of Nigerians specifically.

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Are you sure? Because i looked for that in the wrie up and did not see it. Rather i saw a reference to Rwanda's former role in the same capacity.
Furthermore, is any special agreement needed to deport illegals emanating from Nigeria?

Edit: Confirmed independently you are right. Phew.

Courage is not raping the vulnerable. Courage is taking on the powerful.

If as we all know there was massive corruption in the subsidy system. Who has he nabbed?

Tackle the powerful. That is courage.
It is not courage to beat the weak and poor and hungry. That is, in fact, the height of cowardice.

When true courage has been wanted, he has always backed down like a coward. Against Niger Republic when he was beating the drums of war he backed down. Against Trump when Trump was beating the drums of war, he already his legs open for insertion. He was bullied like a child.

No where has he shown courage as a president. Terrorising the poor is not courage.

You mean Isabel Dos Santos has not yet had all her assets seized?

What? So we are taking over from Rwanda as the dustbin for UK illegal immigrants?

Chai.

Edit: Just confirmed its limited to Nigerians. PHEW.

Greencloud:
Why are his people always clapping?


I mean, I always see them clapping

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Failure to clap could result in death.

There was a gathering Stalin once had in which the applause went on for an absurdly long time. This was because everyone was afraid to stop clapping since the agents of the state were keenly watching to see who would stop first.

IjeBos:
It's sad you don't even seem to understand these lyrics you posted else you wouldn't have posted them as they refer to you. . . .

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You can say that again!

tctrills:
I see most of your ideas as not well thought out and not wise but I have always liked you so let me give you some advice.

Do not expect everyone online to agree with you. There not agreeing with you doesn't make them evil or stupid.
Limit your debate to the issues and don't target insults.

You support Iran even though Iran is doing everything to mess up global economy, would I claim that you are defending islamic or Muslim supremacists? No. Would I call you a slave? No.
So let's trade ideas not insults.
Have fun.

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As per the red, sometimes you could have fooled me, but this is pleasant.

As per the bold, recall you have had choice words for me over the Gaza issue. At some point you even suggested I hated Jews so much i might harm any Jew i came across!

tctrills:
My boy stop being childish, if you have a point to make let's hear it.
Now you claim I am like a psychiatric patient who doesn't recognise his condition.
But to show how you use your brain, you will send a video to a psychiatric patient on nairaland, hoping that a Malcolm X video on nairaland is the fix to psychiatric problems.

If you are here to joke and call me names, let me know.
I come here to discuss and I often discuss with you because our ideas are so different so I use you to test my ideas so I don't hold on to them in isolation.
I am not really interested in doing, ' you are mad, you are foolish, you are a slave,' with you.

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Oh as for insults you were the champion who started all that, remember?
Anyway I am going back to our Christian theology thread where we can have a sane discussion.

tctrills:
Funny child.
You are the one always thinking like a slave. You look at everything from the prism of slavery. You view yourself as a field slave and see us as house slaves.
You can hardly go about a discussion without bringing up slavery. It's a shame.
I see myself as equal with the white man. I don't believe I should be a rebellious slave like you because I am never a slave in the first place.
For example, Donald Trump posts the Obama's as monkeys, it triggers the slave in you but to me, I only feel that we shouldn't be post our political opponents as animals. It doesn't bring back memories of slavery to me.
We are so different. You think like a rebellious slave, I think like a free born

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Just as psychiatric patients don't recognise their condition, some don't recognise that they are worshippers of white supremacy and will defend white supremacists till their last breath.

It's a pity.

tctrills:
What is wrong with you? You have this deep obsession with slavery. I truly feel you need help. I don't see any value in listening to a failure like Malcolm X because all his methods and suggestions to emancipate the blacks failed.
Please, next time give me a winner, someone who made the difference not an idiot like Malcolm X.
May be someone like Fella who sang.

Colo-mentality
(If you say you be colonial man)
(You don be slave man before)
(Them don release you now)
(But you never release yourself)
I say you fit never release yourself
Colo-mentality
(E be say you be colonial man)
(You don be slave man before)
(Them don release you now)
(But you never release yourself)

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How perfectly those lyrics apply to you.

cococandy:
This is such BS, if Iran were going to send sleeper cells they certainly wouldn't announce where they were going to go so we could be ready to stop them. That is not how anyone with retaliation on the minds would act.
Only highly dense individuals like MAGATs would believe that.

This likely came straight from Trumps mouth because he hates California. If Trump attacks California (which is never out past him and his rotten supporters), that’s declaration of war against the country itself and he should be ready for whatever comes of it.

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Bear in mind that any resulting chaos would be exactly what he might want in order to invoke emergency powers and potentially stall or manipulate mid-terms.

Pootle:
what is interesting about a beer parlor thinking,

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Why do you call it that though