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LabStores:
Found dead?
Okay

FORNICATION AND ADULTERY HAVE GRAVE CONSEQUENCES...

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Sure you intended no pun.

LordReed:
Have you seen how the illusion of the woman sawed in 2 works? Can you ever now believe she was in any danger? If you know this world is an illusion how can you ever be in any danger likewise?

You are not a dumdum because I know you have thought about these things unlike some of these clowns regurgitating nonsense.

Bring it on bruv, I am waiting.

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Morning able sire. I have a tasking day but it will be the highlight of my day. I think it's very interesting.

Your use of the word "illusion" though, seems out of sync with what we are talking about. I will explain.

tctrills:
If you mention the top 10,0000 problems of Nigeria, citizens who de-market their country would not be on the list. Nigeria has failed almost all its citizens, so don't blame them if they are not so excited about promoting a failed state.

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Bros how na

Ezyp:
Relax Germany don cast. Factories are closing down

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Factories closing down is different from quality and expertise.

LordReed:
Yup. We need just one person to break the illusion. Jumping down a 16 storey building with no safety device and landing unhurt will totally show us the illusory nature of this world.

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Why must he land unhurt to prove it? Why exactly must be be unhurt if the program is so set already that such an action will result in you being hurt? With due respect sir, this particular argument of yours makes me wary because it strongly suggests to me that you are not prepared for the discussion.

But I betting neither you or the dumdum who brought this up have any way to demonstrate that this is the case. If you are a betting man we can put a million bucks on it. You have no way of showing objectively that this world is any illusion, prove me wrong.

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It might be that I am also a dumdum like him.

However, rest assured, I will let you have all my thoughts in structured form. Some of the questions I am asking you are random. Don't presume too much from them.

I will, as is my wont, start from philosophy and certain historical pointers before I move to the science and I will urge you to take everything into consideration.

LordReed:
I'll be surprised if we haven't discussed Mandela Effect before. Yes I have looked into it and it is not that deep. People misremember things all the time. We barely even remember the sequence of clothes we wore last week.

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Its a little more than mis-remembering things, and they way you have phrased it makes me ponder if you have gone well into the subject before.

LordReed:
It is still a solipsism trap because you are saying if one player is in one room and the other player is in a different room then the rooms they are respectively not in do not render for them. It is patently absurd. We learn object permanence before we are out of kindergarten. I can't believe any grown up will use this as a point in a debate. C'mon man.

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It might be that I am a child. We will discuss in the thread I create.
Object permanence? I think you are the one who needs to dig deeper. We shall talk.

I have highlighted the bold because it shows something very simple which you have confused yourself about. Till the morrow.

SixSeven:
You still need the paper trail but the reason why we are transmitting it is that the timestamp of the transmitted copy serves as full protection for the numbers and when they compare this to the paper copy, they can tell if it has been manipulated.

By now INEC should have a system that can tabulate the results PU by PU, ward by ward and LG by LG. It is 2027 for God sake. This was the disingenuous thing Reno Omokri avoided. He claimed the US stations can tell their own results but he didn't tell us why and how they could. The TV stations don't manufacture results. They can all read from a portal publicly available. That's why they can tell the results before the electoral body there officially declares the results. This is why Jonathan could concede even before Mr Jega had finished the exercise. APC just wants to rig, simple

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Fair analysis.
I was just responding to the chap trying to clam printing will be expensive.

Hemanwel:
We can all see Singapore appear multiple times on the list. Here is a country which was underdeveloped like Nigeria, It was a third-world country...because she had a visionary leader at some point in her nationhood, she has left Nigeria behind in every positive index of development.

I am very sure if they were talking about unfortunate metrics, Nigeria would have appeared ten times.

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Please stop comparing a city to a country.

Godfullsam:
England absent from all indices. Russia and Germany too.

Nigeria is not alone

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Germany makes best machines I don't care what anyone says.

Lai lai. Best food is one of the following -

1. France (E get why)
2. India (spices) - And on spices no one who has not been to the spice market in Zanzibar should comment.
3. Japan (healthy foods)
4. Mexico and the generality of Latin America
5. The generality of black Africa.

However I am only half serious. Food is a question of personal taste. No one can dictate what's best for another.

LordReed:
It would to me.

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Oh come on!

To disprove the illusory nature of the world, once a person experiences cause and effect that's it?

There is cause and effect even in video games for heavens sake!

LordReed:
I see those as solipsistic traps because you are assuming the other humans are not experiencing their own environments without you.

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Nope, that assumption doesn't factor. That's like saying another game player is not experiencing his immediate game environment without you.

Small question, have you heard of the Mandela Effect?

Gotocourt:
Why wasting money on printing papers which is bulky and expensive 🤷🏿

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Doing it immediately after voting should not involve paper.

Dekadet:
Nairaland should find a way to create an option to ban some people from threads. Our truth please where are you, don't mind these guys that love to hear themselves talk, come back and finish. Thanks

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But we are discussing the topic he raised. Simulation Theory.

LordReed:
Yeah right. Jump off a 16 storey building unaided by any safety device, walk away unhurt then I'll believe you that this world is an illusion.

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This is NOT what it takes to confirm that the world is an illusion.

LordReed:
Rather it reveals how shallow you are. In a videogame all characters and npcs can be reset and can be brought back. Increase your depth of thinking, you are still in the kiddie pool.

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Are you aware of the video game angle which argues that our reality is only spawned as observed. In other words, in a video game, the next room only spawns when you open it.

LordReed:
It isn't. That would be like saying the earth is flat because maps are flat.

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Nah. I will explain why. There are other areas to this including the pixelation of reality. Several other angles.

I will play you several Zidane bicycle kicks you will see. Get a good goal keeper on your side.

LordReed:
Bring it on bruv!

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On the morrow!

*Gallops off

LordReed:
The comments provide more context. And by his own admission it is not fundamental code he found rather code he was using to describe the universe.

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In a sense it is the same thing. I will explain in my thread.

LordReed:
Yes instruments. You realise that the only thing that changed was the introduction of the instruments, humans were present in both experiments.

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This issue is interesting enough to warrant a thread especially as this is not the only angle I will come from.

Pick thy sword and shield, and meet me on the meadow tomorrow, come with honour and prepare to be slaughtered.

LordReed:
You can do that but it won't change it. Dr James used equations that were made by humans. I found an elaboration of the method he used and some interesting comments. The last one is just like this discussion I am having with you.

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I think you need to watch the full video rather than rely on comments.

LordReed:
Dude listen again to Dr James from 1:28. He says in response to Tyson's question: "Into the equations that we want to use to describe the cosmos." This is not an admission the matter is made up of code. He saying the equations that were used to decribe the cosmos has those codes. Listen properly and don't jump to unfounded conclusions.

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If you can't watch the full video, why not Google the actual conclusions?

I gave you an extract from Gemini which summarises. You know very well the clip I gave you for brevity ended mid sentence. So just Google the conclusions yourself.

LordReed:
It only changed when detectors were introduced. Just provide what I asked for.

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Hang on a second. When you say detectors, are you referring to instruments of observation? And if so, observation by who?

LordReed:
LoLz. Please provide a peer review science paper that says double slit experiment is affected by human consciousness. I am waiting (but not holding my breath).

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Hian!

Oga this sounds like you don't know of the experiment at all oh.

I will do a thread.

LordReed:
But you cannot provide me with any evidence that the calculations are wrong or that such energy production is possible or even provide any idea of the amount of energy required. At this point you are on trust me bro level. LoLz.

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Oh no!

I am not that guy.

I have already resolved to open a thread with my arguments on this issue laid out step by step just for you my guy.

DeepSight:
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I did. It's completely misplaced. Completely. Also those behind it are either not wearing their thinking caps or what they are saying is simply different from what I am saying.

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LordReed, sorry, here I am referring to the attachment on your other post.

As regards the slit experiment, are you not aware that it went through stages of human observation first?

LordReed:
Read the screenshot I just added.

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I did. It's completely misplaced. Completely. Also those behind it are either not wearing their thinking caps or what they are saying is simply different from what I am saying.

LordReed:
Dude listen again to Dr James from 1:28. He says in response to Tyson's question: "Into the equations that we want to use to describe the cosmos." This is not an admission the matter is made up of code. He saying the equations that were used to decribe the cosmos has those codes. Listen properly and don't jump to unfounded conclusions.

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I only gave you this clip to save your time. Do you want the full video? And then YOU listen properly.

LordReed:
It isn't. Take a look at this casual calculation.

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You are wildly wrong in this matter and I repeat, no human can ever calculate the level of kind of energy involved outta simulation.

LordReed:
The observation is not by conscious humans directly. They use detectors which collapse the wave nature of the electrons. It has nothing to do with consciousness. The reason the observation causes it is because the electrons receive energy from the detector not because there is a human being looking at it.

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Are you sure you really know this experiment and all the stages it went through from Inception? Because if you did, you would not say this, because there was observation by humans as well and when that was surprising in terms of the results they started trying other forms of indirect observation.

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Its not just that, the truth is that it should be automatically conducted at birth universally.