₦airaland Forum

SocialJustice:
Nothing beats oshogbo. That N10m would be gone in 5 minutes, with same money I'll do 7 days at Eko Hotel with VI babes.

Ah ahn. You must tell me what is in that Oshogbo.

Kukutente23:
It's going well sir
Thanx for your care
Now go play with sand like your mates

Incorrigible. Just when I was putting together a package for your welfare and treatement.

Kukutente23:

This man. Keep quiet. You mean thousands of philosophers left Arabia to go to India to procreate?
Haba

I hope you are having a good week my son.

Kukutente23:
Mugu
I know you're ignorant. What you call Arabic Numerals started from India so it does not originally belong to Arabs.
Roman Numerals originally belongs to Romans.
Nothing concern islamist with fuel since Muhammad nor get fuel.
Go find a camel

Amazing. So as far back as then there was movement of people and ideas between India and Arabia. Good to know. Because I have a friend who says that people dont ever move, or rather they only started moving in the 20th century.

tivity101:
Yahaya Bello steal 110billion una dey shout I laff in Swahili... Our immediate past govo steal 1.7Trillion and still gallant 🤣😅😃😂

Dont mind them, their state is poverty stricken. A mere 110 billion and they are crying.

maasoap:
Buhari didn't want Tinubu to succeed him in office, we all knew that during primary election, so nothing official happened between FG and INEC.
So, if Tinubu had money to transfer to INEC for a small favour, I'm sure Atiku and Obi have such money too.
PDP gave Tinubu and APC their victory in 2023 presidential election because of their individual selfishness

On the second line, fair enough, but influence pass influence oh. They can take from all and still do the small favor for one in particular. After all delegates do same at primaries. Besides, an Obi may not even give at all.

I truly agree with the last line. Perfectly on point. You dont split up like that and expect to win. When APC overthrew a sitting president, about five parties had to join hands (including nPDP - Five renegade PDP Governors). Thats how to present a serious fight to a sitting president. If they dont unite in 2027, I will know they are not interested in any presidency.

maasoap:
Not only that, custom and FG are making billions of naira too from import duty on rice through the seaports. That's why the ban on land importation will remain in place.


Which money? The govs were the ones who directed the delegates from their states to vote for him and they didn't collect money from him for the delegates, they paid the delegates themselves. I can't say about the delegates from the states that didn't have APC govs at the time.
Secondly, there was no much money to be shared during the general election of 2023 because Emefiele made sure that our naira notes were either destroyed or confiscated at the time. So, most voters willingly gave their votes to their preferred candidates, money didn't play any significant role during the last presidential election

You cant say money didnt play a part just because of what you cited oh. There are levels. Nothings will stop a candidate from transferring millions of dollars to an INEC official for a "small favour" for example.

nairalanda1, dont you think N500k per bag of rice would be more realistic for the growth of the economy and prosperity of Nigeria?

GloriousGbola:
i dont expect it to collapse - it was actually done by professionals this time

however i do not expect it to generate actual value for the investment - especially as it is still in the hands of NNPC who are at best a lethargic, indolent, poorly run government welfare program cosplaying as a business

if a properly vetted and demonstrably competent private entity does not take over operation of that refinery - in the next three years it may be a completely wasted investment

I just can't trust these people. Remember the factor of sabotage and corruption. Why has it taken so many years of repeated theft for "professionals" to be brought in. My brother it sounds hollow. I know this country well enough to know that major infrastructure is deliberately sabotaged in order to fix it again and again. It's not an accident. It's a scheme. I know it first hand. It's done in power, it's done with roads, and believe me, these refineries have been the biggest case of it. So unless you think that deliberate aspect of sabotage will suddenly cease, I am willing to bet that thing can't run for one year straight without TAM being required for another five years again.

GloriousGbola:
a project with cost overruns, a project repeatedly delayed - a project that has not actually demonstrated returns on the billion dollar investment is not a case of we shook them.

this is not a flex in any way

The thing that may still collapse shortly as per naija things.

madridguy:
Seeing Sanwo-Olu in the picture of men with balls is making me angry. Imagine Tinubu suspends Bayo Onanuga to please terrorists that wanted him dead in the Endsars coup attack.

Someone like you will also say the children released recently for EndBadGovernance participation are coupists, terrorists and were planning to assasinate the president.

Rule Number 1 - What goes up in Nigeria never comes down

INTEGRITYA1:
ECOWAS has little to celebrate, except its existence by name, (the golden jubilee) at its 50th year in May 2025.

Pathetic

And doesnt look like the so called Eco will ever see the light of day.

NO IMPORT DEPENDENT ECONOMY SHOULD EVERY TRY IT, PERDIOD.

What about Lagos - Calabar Expessway, was there any appropriation? Nope.

Hahahahahhahahaha! This decrepit bastard simply means he will not rest untill half of us have died from hunger. Nothing can stop the next round of fuel price hikes he plans very soon. Sick fool.

Kukutente23:
Shut up and stop writing rubbish. If Musa Mansa's pilgrimage never happened? How can it be a logical example for population movement?

The fact remains that CRT is a farce. It makes no sense except to woke fools. Humans are naturally going to be wary of those who do not look like them. It is a psychological thing not rooted in any social divide. CRT is simply fraud. Tell me what the Songhai Empire called River Niger before Mungo Park came. Most of you do not realise he had local guides in his quest.
If they knew the river already, they would have pointed it out to him. The Portuguese gave Lagos a name but Eko as its original name still survives till this day. Go figure

Are you telling me the Egyptians didnt know the River Nile? And the Songhai didnt know the River Niger.
Your list of statements today has to be collated and taken to a Musuem of Stupidity.

Kukutente23:
Shut up and stop writing rubbish. If Musa Mansa's pilgrimage never happened? How can it be a logical example for population movement?

The fact remains that CRT is a farce. It makes no sense except to woke fools. Humans are naturally going to be wary of those who do not look like them. It is a psychological thing not rooted in any social divide. CRT is simply fraud. Tell me what the Songhai Empire called River Niger before Mungo Park came. Most of you do not realise he had local guides in his quest.
If they knew the river already, they would have pointed it out to him. The Portuguese gave Lagos a name but Eko as its original name still survives till this day. Go figure

Denying population movement is as bad as denying the existence of the solar system. It is that illiterate. I will leave this with you. But I know you will only have epileptic seizures fooling yourself.

Its as bad as denying that conquests and colonialism happened for heaven's sake!
\What sane person can do that ? ? ?

By 2000 years ago humans had established settlements in most of the Pacific Islands. Major population-movements notably include those postulated as associated with the Neolithic Revolution and with Indo-European expansion. The Early Medieval Great Migrations including Turkic expansion have left significant traces. In some places, such as Turkey and Azerbaijan, there was a substantial cultural transformation after the migration of relatively small elite populations.[8] Historians see elite-migration parallels in the Roman and Norman conquests of Britain, while "the most hotly debated of all the British cultural transitions is the role of migration in the relatively sudden and drastic change from Romano-Britain to Anglo-Saxon Britain", which may be explained by a possible "substantial migration of Anglo-Saxon Y chromosomes into England (contributing 50–100% to the gene pool at that time)

Kukutente23:
No. They never did. They believed the Nile had no source. They believed it was a gift from the god Hapi and usually thought the annual flooding of the Nile was answer to their prayers and sacrifices. Go and read up history and stop asking stupid questions

Is this not a silly concession of everything you have been saying? If the Egyptians never reached Lake Victoria, why must the Songhai Empire have reached the Nigeria Delta?

It is, therefore, silly to claim either empire did not sufficiently know either river before any white man came to help them "discover" it.

Simply put, your statement that the River Niger was discovered in the 1800s is illiterate.

Kukutente23:

Lol. So you believe this stor including that he built a mosque every friday for a whole year. Are you really this daft or just playing? So Zeus is a myth. Jesus is a myth. But Musa Mansa is not a myth and he had gold enough to spend from Mali to Arabia. Dude come off your pipe
I'm yet to see the part where he and his entourage were sleeping with women on a seed sowing enterprise as they travelled though. And funny enough he came back home broke but brought none of the women or children he sired home with him. Oga go and rest with your nonsense. Population mix due to migration in those early times is a farce. The world was not enlightened or accommodating then as we have it now

Bewildering. Nonsenical. Anti-Intellectual.

Does the point simply miss you that at all events, Mansa Musa or not, movement was just natural and inevitable?
Besides, I repeat: the question was always the possibility of an indiviual having foreign ancestors.

An individual, I repeat, an individual.
And denying that is just madness. But I have learnt that you are an out and out lunatic who can probably deny that the Earth is a Sphere. You have already denied worse.

However I dont think you have heard me say that Jesus was a myth.

I leave you with this image of the Songhai Empire.
If you imagine that an empire that covered that much length of the River Niger needed to wait for Mungo Park to "discover" it, you must be drunk.

You will still have to answer if the Egyptians ever reached the source of the Nile.

Kukutente23:
Ok. So according to Africans, what is the name of River Niger and how long was it? You be daft man I swear. River Nile was not fully known by the early Egyptians untill the Pharaoh who unified both Northern and Southern Egypt. If you have evidence the full extent of River Niger was known to Africans, bring it.

Did the Egyptians reach the source of the Nile - Lake Victoria.

Yes or no, no long thing.

Musa was a Muslim, and his hajj, or pilgrimage to Mecca, made him well known across North Africa and the Middle East. To Musa, Islam was "an entry into the cultured world of the Eastern Mediterranean".[46] He would have spent much time fostering the growth of the religion within his empire. When Musa departed Mali for the Hajj, he left his son Muhammad to rule in his absence.[47]

Musa made his pilgrimage between 1324 and 1325, spanning 2700 miles.[48][49][50] His procession reportedly included upwards of 12,000 slaves, all wearing brocade and Yemeni silk[51] who each carried 1.8 kg (4 lb) of gold bars, and heralds dressed in silks bearing gold staffs organized horses and handled bags.

Musa provided all necessities for the procession, feeding the entire company of men and animals.[46] Those animals included 80 camels, which each carried 23–136 kg (50–300 lb) of gold dust. Musa gave the gold to the poor he met along his route. Musa not only gave to the cities he passed on the way to Mecca, including Cairo and Medina, but also traded gold for souvenirs. It was reported that he built a mosque every Friday.[33] Shihab al-Din al-'Umari, who visited Cairo shortly after Musa's pilgrimage to Mecca, noted that it was "a lavish display of power, wealth, and unprecedented by its size and pageantry".[52] Musa made a major point of showing off his nation's wealth.

Musa and his entourage arrived at the outskirts of Cairo in July 1324. They camped for three days by the Pyramids of Giza before crossing the Nile into Cairo on 19 July.[j][53][54] While in Cairo, Musa met with the Mamluk sultan al-Nasir Muhammad, whose reign had already seen one mansa, Sakura, make the Hajj. Al-Nasir expected Musa to prostrate himself before him, which Musa initially refused to do. When he did finally bow, he said he was doing so for God alone.[55]

Despite this initial awkwardness, the two rulers got along well and exchanged gifts. Musa and his entourage gave and spent freely while in Cairo. Musa stayed in the Qarafa district of Cairo and befriended its governor, ibn Amir Hajib, who learned much about Mali from him. Musa stayed in Cairo for three months, departing on 18 October[k] with the official caravan to Mecca.

Musa's generosity continued as he traveled onward to Mecca, and he gave gifts to fellow pilgrims and the people of Medina and Mecca. While in Mecca, conflict broke out between a group of Malian pilgrims and a group of Turkic pilgrims in the Masjid al-Haram. Swords were drawn, but before the situation escalated further, Musa persuaded his men to back down.[57]

Musa and his entourage lingered in Mecca after the last day of the Hajj. Traveling separately from the main caravan, their return journey to Cairo was struck by catastrophe. By the time they reached Suez, many of the Malian pilgrims had died of cold, starvation, or bandit raids, and they had lost many of their supplies.[58][59] Having run out of money, Musa and his entourage were forced to borrow money and resell much of what they had purchased while in Cairo before the Hajj, and Musa went into debt to several merchants such as Siraj al-Din. However, Al-Nasir Muhammad returned Musa's earlier show of generosity with gifts of his own.[60]

On his return journey, Musa met the Andalusi poet Abu Ishaq al-Sahili, whose eloquence and knowledge of jurisprudence impressed him, and whom he convinced to travel with him to Mali.[61] Other scholars Musa brought to Mali included Maliki jurists.[62]

Kukutente23 -

The bold parts refer.

So much for "movement of populations is a farce!"

Mind you, this was not long after the Mongols had been fighting around the Arab regions and even attacked Egypt.

So, if you are omniscient enough to declare that there could have been no intercourse whatsoever, I certainly am not. But throught this discussion, you have never understood that even the Mongols / British etc are just analogies. The point remains that anyone can have strange and unlikely foreign ancestors from very far away.

Kukutente23:
The real sense is the biological sense. Raciality has always been seen as a biological construct. This is commonsense

You miss the point here. I dont imagine that CRT Scholars will tell you that there are no biological elements of race. That is not even a matter for such Scholars but for biologists. But even at that any biological factors are surface deep. Hair. Skin. Eye color, etc. But thats beside the point.

What they mean, and what you should understand, is that the social, economic and institutional factors are what have set the real barriers in the United States in particular - but more importantly - that those barriers have economic consequences. It is a subtle nuance which you type too fast and think too little to grasp. Overall there is no way they could mean it in the biolgical sense and even still use the words "white" or "black". . . worse, it would be meanigless to say those demographics are not real (in any sense that is tangible) and then have any basis to continue any analysis. They are telling you of the structures of privilege - particularly inherited privilege over generations, and inherited poverty over generations that seggregate the USA along racial lines on account of its racist history.

Meanwhile Muhammad was known to be a rapist, racist who kept black slaves and a murderer. You do not have a problem with him even as millions of blacks venerate him but Trump is your headache

I have every problem with him as you know.

Kukutente23:
I said mixed race due to population movement is a farce and I stand by it.

You dont have to outrightly lie. This is your exact statement:

Kukutente23:
Movement of population is a farce.

Your exact words, not mine. Stupid words which will live in infamy.

Also it is worthy of note that this discussion started with the possibility of an individual having a foreign ancestor from a far off land. Bear that in mind in your duplicity. And that possibility cannot be denied.

I asked you if there could be those here who have white ancestors. You went numb.

I mentioned the journey of Mansa Musa with a caravan of thusands to Arabia - and whether no interbreeding woould thereby occur. You went bland. Do you think they were Dominican Monks?

That is a lie. Even till today, throughout the length of the Niger River, there are different names given to it by the locals close to it. If they knew its source and termination point, they would not have given it different names. It is same River Niger that is called Jebba river in Niger state and also called Argungu river in Kebbi. No African knew of the Atlantic Ocean till it was crossed by Columbus. If you doubt me, mention the local name of Atlantic Ocean in Yoruba and Ijaw.

Oh wait oh. So a River is unknown because tribes along its banks have different names for it? Well done.
So the Atlantic was unknown while the Portuguese were sailing it to reach deep Africa? Simply because they had not reached one of its coasts on another side does not mean they did not know it, dont be stupid.

No different from saying that the Egyptians of old did not know the River Nile since they did not reach Lake Victoria! Nice!

Very soon you will tell me the Nile was discovered by one white man since the tribes along its banks had different names for it!

How stupid!

Your argument also amounts to saying whoever first reached Antartica discovered planet Earth.

I see how you have conveniently left out the influence of religion on slavery. Muhammad was a slave owner. You have nothing to say about him. You probably venerate him I suspect

You know already that I describe Muhammad as an illiterate mass murderer, rapist and caravan robber.

Kukutente23:
Scholars of CRT view race as a social construct with no biological basis. ref:Curry, Tommy (2009a). "Critical Race Theory". In Greene, Helen Taylor; Gabbidon, Shaun L. (eds.). Encyclopedia of Race and Crime. SAGE Publications.

You do have a problem with understanding English. I said CRT insists there are no races in the real sense you said I am saying there are no races. English dumbo. English

Please distinguish between these statements -

1. There are no races.
2. There are no races in the real sense.

Which is a worse statement?
What is a "real sense?"

Kukutente23:
So the Europeans that moved to America and Australia met blacks right? Bro you dull. Most of the aborigines they met there were killed. Stop twisting history. You are not really smart

It is tiresome when people change what is said repeatedly.

YOU said movement of populations is a farce.

Once asked how Europeans got to America and Australia you start talking about who they met there.

Thats not what was said. What was said is movement of population is real. But you said its a farce.

Do try to run away from it: no one asked you who they met there - or whether it was blacks.

The question was how they got there?

By moving, or standing in one place?

Simple. Which is it? No escape, noy.

So why didn't Mansa Musa get to the Niger Delta since he toured along the River Niger. You don't know jack. You sound like a nincompoop. The shonghai empire did not know the start and end of River Niger. So also all the tribes along the river. Learn history boy.

There you go again. You said The the River Niger was only discovered in the 1800s. Once shown that people knew well of it and an large empire even existed on its banks long before that, you now ask why one man did not go to the Niger Delta.

Was that the question?

When you goof, you turn and run.

What you have said it like saying no one knew of the Atlantic Ocean until it was crossed by Columbus. Daft.

Kukutente23:
CRT is a bullshit that seeks to delegitimise race by claiming there are no races in the real sense. It is a woke ideal to make it sound like humans are one big happy family divided by social construct. A big fat lie

This is not CRT. I knew you didnt know what CRT says.
I knew it from the start.

In fact you just wrote a far opposite of any possible definition of CRT.

Now I know who I am talking to and the level of sheer ignorance.

You need to understand that it is not possible for CRT to say that race does not exist and then lament the fortunes of a particular race it is more subtle than that. The issues are the frameworks that produce the economic outcomes for varying groups. And the existence of those social frameworks are undeniable. It is far too simplistic to say that CRT says there are no races. In saying so, you will probably claim that CRT says no white people exist!

No wonder you would deny simple facts of life such as movement of populations.



Good luck.

doffman:
Like these below right :

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Or

This :

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.” (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)


Boko boys are learning from you guys 😀😀😀😀😀

How is this different from what they complain of - that muslim apostates are sentenced to death.

doffman:
If Quran is fake , why are you asking me to show you where Jesus did solat in Quran ??

Are you normal kid ? 😀😀😀

I have rarely been so shocked with the idiocy I am hearing. The boy says -

1. Populations dont migrate

2. River Niger was only discovered in the 1800s (So somelike Mansa Musa of the 14th century would not know it, in his mind)

3. Races cannot procreate

4. No one can have an ancestor from another race

As in, please tell me I am not reading well?
Because this one is too much.

He must be writing from Yaba-Left.

Kukutente23:
Where in Africa did Mongols conquer? I need the answer for my thesis. See mugu. No mongol came close to Sahara Africa in any 1000 years. That is a big fat lie. So in your silly imagination, every rape leads to pregnancy. You're a daft boy. I thought you're smart but I thought wrong. So everyone who was raped gave birth to a Mongol looking kid deep in Africa and you think barbaric Africans of 800 years ago will not leave the strange looking baby in an evil forest to die? Haba!! How can someone else be telling you your story and you believe. You need common sense o.

Misquoting me will not make me interested in your ranting. Go and read what I wrote. If you find the word "borders" there, kill yourself.

Africans are not genetically diverse anything. At least not black Africans. That is the imagination of wokeism.

It is as much a scientific fact as any other.

Movement of population is a farce.

Oh populations dont move abi?

Wait a minute, how did Europeans get to America and Australia?

Such a clown.

I wonder why I bother.

Even small River Niger here was not discovered until the 1800s.

By who, Mungo Park? ? ? ? ?



So those who lived in the Songhai Empire -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songhai_Empire

- - - or someone like Mansa Musa did not know it? -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansa_Musa

Oh, he made a pilgrimage to Arabia in the 1300s with so much gold that it crashed gold in Egypt when he passed through/.

And peoples do not move? What do you eat, sand? Because you must be a chickenhead.

I guess he knew nothing of the River Niger as he travelled and also that the thousands of men who followed him didnt touch any women there.

To say you are stupid is an understatement. With everything you write you show yourself to be one of the most stupid posters I have ever read from.

CRT is a fake theory. Races exist and phobia for one another is really embedded in humans. The same South Africans are showing Nigerians that now.

I repeat, define CRT please.
In one line.

That will be the end of your pride, because you dare not define it. And you cant discuss what you cant define. Each time you allude to something that has nothing to do with it. You probably think CRT is racism simpliciter.

Kukutente23:
Keep quiet
You claim that Yahweh will be extinct in a thousand years without any facts to back it up but your childish reasoning. But you did not state how long it will take for Allah, whose religion breeds barbaric laws and practices, terrorism and violence as at today to become extinct. You see how disjointed you are in your fake sanctimonious posturing?
You hear doffman. He said Allah is barbaric

But European Settler Imperialist COLONIALIST Jews are still relying on the words of Yaweh today to grab land and practice genocide, racism and apartheid