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Kukutente23:
Keep quiet
You claim that Yahweh will be extinct in a thousand years without any facts to back it up but your childish reasoning. But you did not state how long it will take for Allah, whose religion breeds barbaric laws and practices, terrorism and violence as at today to become extinct. You see how disjointed you are in your fake sanctimonious posturing?
You hear doffman. He said Allah is barbaric

I doubt these religions will survive the next few centuries. The pace of enlightenment is too great.

Kukutente23:
Use your brain man. If Humans evolved from Africa and moved to all other parts of the earth from there. How will Africans be mongols? Shouldn't it be the other way round that Mongols will be Africans and my ancestry should be an ancestor for Genghis Khan? You see how woke theory has messed up your thinking faculty? You claim Africa where I am is the birthplace of humans but you still say a full blooded African could have migrated from Mongolia. Make it make sense pls

I have told you that the movement of people and vagaries of sex do these things. The Mongols conquered up to the door steps of Europe and Arabia and Africa and you imagine that with all that movement, brutality, rape and barbarism flying around, within 800 years there would not be strains of their descendants who would have come into being and had sexual relations with Arabs, who had African slaves and who would have birthed lines of descendants.

You sit in your gutter and type that it is impossible in 800 years, because you know all the migrations and movements of people during that period, and who had sex with who. You imagine if there was a white man in your family tree just 300 years ago, you would look remotely white. Your stupidity is legendary. Two simple points you could not pick up from the link are - 1. Africans are the most genetically diverse in the world - contrary to your claim - FACT - and 2 - The fluidity of movement of populations.

Obviously someone like you will imagine there are not people who are perfectly white today who have black great great great grand parents and vice versa. Can you figure how many slave masters impregnated slave women in Africa - for example, and therefore how many of you may have a white ancestor you dont know of? You think you will look white even after just two generations?

What gutter did you school in?

Only woke fools believe critical race theory. Have you ever interrogated the basic fact it is virtually impossible for a Negroid to birtha Caucasian and it is impossible for a Mongol to birth an Arab? You better unscrew your head from woke nonsense. I hope you're not transgender though cause they are known to be the most twisted people

1. The bold is too staggering to respond to. In short you are saying mixed race people dont exist.
2. Again, anyone who denies CRT is simply saying black South Africans for example, suffered nothing economically from apartheid.

Its obvious you are one of the millions of air-headed extremist rightists who dont even know what CRT is but simply follow the bandwagon of racist idiocy.

I asked you what CRT is in one line, of course you dare not answer because you dont know what it is. And look there, you are now associating it with your idiocy that races cant interbreed.

You are beyond mad.

Kukutente23:
Shut up you doofus
You're so out of point.
Yahweh as a name is older than Allah by far
Yahweh has more followers combined today than Allah
Yet it is Yahweh that's giving you migraine
Dummy, do you know what they do with your kind in Saudi, it's off with your head. Those are the people you've formed best buddies with on this thread.
The doffman dude has been quoting you and your obliging him with rubbish supporting him that Yahweh is murderous. May I ask if there's any ancient diety that's not murderous including those of Africans that delight in human sacrifices. Yet it is Yahweh who at least gave us Jesus that's your problem. The Allah that actively tells his members to kill your kind is your best buddy on this thread.
I've always believed atheists are specially daft and you proved that

Gibberish. And I am neither atheist nor Islamist either. But how would you know that. You are a small boy, and an ignoramus. Go and sit down. That one deity is murderous does not mean another also isnt, saying Yahweh is murderous is a fact of Jewish mythology - and it does not make me a friend of the equally barbaric Allah to say so.

@ The bold this is the second time you have alluded to numbers having anything to do with truth.
Shallow as they come.

Kukutente23:
Stop writing rubbish. I can't have Mongolian ancestry. Africa is not as diverse as Europe and the west you dummy.
So what is the impact of slavery on a full blooded African. Oga you're writing nonsense
Do you even know that the trans Sahara slave trade carried out by Arab Muslims is much older than the trans Atlantic slave trade and it did not stop till slavery was outlawed by same whites?
You need a brain

Africa is where modern humans evolved and is the starting place for the global expansion of our species (Stringer and Andrews 1988; Stringer 1994; Templeton 2002). African populations also have the highest levels of genetic and phenotypic variation among all humans. This variation is informative for characterizing demographic history in Africa, including times when populations increased in size, contracted, migrated, or when admixture between them occurred.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4067985/

I cant help you further than this.

As to CRT, what you just wrote up there has given me a headache. I won't bother. Just forget it. Anyone who doesnt know or denies the impact of racism on economic realities in the USA is as far gone as anyone who denies the impact of apartheid on the economic realities of black South Africans.

Denying CRT is simply as bad as saying apartheid did not affect black South Africans economically.

You are deranged.

Kukutente23:
Stop writing rubbish. I can't have Mongolian ancestry. Africa is not as diverse as Europe and the west you dummy.
So what is the impact of slavery on a full blooded African. Oga you're writing nonsense
Do you even know that the trans Sahara slave trade carried out by Arab Muslims is much older than the trans Atlantic slave trade and it did not stop till slavery was outlawed by same whites?
You need a brain

Chai. Nothing more to say. You really need to go to school.

1. Africans are the most genetically diverse race.

2. You can be be a descendant of Ghengis Khan through the very simple vagaries of sex, conquest, movement inter-relations through the ages and migration. Honestly, if you dont know this, I am ashamed I have been talking with you.

Good luck.

Kukutente23:
And Allah will still be worshipped while Yahweh will be discarded according to dumb you right?

Where did you see me saying this; are you retarded or you cannot remember how many times I have said I dont believe in any such god, either Allah or Yahweh.

Kukutente23:
Elohim is not royal We dummy
Go and get a proper education
Royal We is using plural PRONOUN for a singular entity in the first person to signify majesty or sovereignty

I am tired. The plurals of majesty, divinity, deity and royalty are ancient and dont need to be in the first person either. That such has been used in the ancient middle east ends the conversation. That you cannot see how people in that same region adopt that is also retarded.

As for the bold, you cant even see you have ceded the debate again.

Kukutente23:
Stop typing like a dummy. How can I have Mongolian ancestry when I don't have mixed race?

Finally I know you are illiterate. If you dont know this is possible, you can never understand anything.

Your head has been screwed wrongly by demonrats and their critical race theory

You clearly will not know what CRT is. Can you summarize it in one line? You cant, but I will educate you.

In one line, CRT speaks to the fact that slavery, segregation and racism in the US has had an economic impact on the fortunes of colored people. Only rabid dogs can deny this.

doffman:
DeepSight

The summary of his argument is that Yahweh can command people to kill but Allah should not.

I personally follow that post and I laughed hard the way he was cut off guard 😀. He was highly confused and started replying off point 😀.

You nailed it 200 percent , They will be criticizing Muslims that Boko haram uses Quran verses to kill , and when you read their Bible very well , you will see that their god commanded most of the deadliest killing and genocide .

Everyone knows the Old Testament is full of murderous commands.

When they want to collect tithe , they will accept Old Testament but where it is other way round , they will say old statements has been abolished .

GBAM!

doffman:
Kukutente23




Ahaaaa , you can lie more than devil .

Who wrote this post : I did not say Allah made killing obligatory dummy. It is clearly written in the Qur'an. I simply quoted it. .

Was it not you mr liar !😀

You can’t denied that, because , you personally know the truth .😀😀😀.




See the image I attached , who wrote that ? lolz 😂

Mr liar lolz .

This is exactly how you deceive people and lie around. 😀

The sick thing is the double standards. He says it is written in the Quran, but when we show him the one written in the Bible (and there are many), he starts crying.

But till now, he cannot say what the people of Jericho did to be invaded and annihilated and robbed by the Israelites.

The only thing you will hear is that they are pagan, as though those people would not also see the Israelites as pagan with all their practices including carrying a box around with graven images on it, believing in genocide and animal sacrifice, etc.

I just cant stand people who can lie so blatantly.

doffman:
Most of them do not read the Bible themselves . He follow their master like sheep . Their hypocrisy stinks.

That e -terrorist doesn’t know anything , he is a disgrace to his fellow Christian community; and the worst thing is that , he does not get shame at all .

He must be around 18 to 22 ignorant fool .

He is now denying what he personally wrote 😀😀😀

The summary of his argument is that Yahweh can command people to kill but Allah should not.

Oh, you might also be right about his age. I used to imagine he may be up to 30 but I dont think so now - Even if he was 30, he could be my son. The chap can proably be my youngest son's mate.

doffman:
Ahaaaa . Did you ever see me and him dragging issues . He has said it several times that he did not believe in Allah or your god .

And he did not like you Christian E-terrorist that used to enter Muslim thread to cause trouble ;and now that you are being exposed , why do you want to cry 😀

It is you that was shock how he tutor you with proof with your Bible and you became like fool in your defend . 😀😀

His performance was pathetic today.
Just look at the double standard with Saul alone. That alone was enough to end him.

Kukutente23:
Dummy. And if that day doesn't come, I guess you'll have to hang. You don't know Jack about theology and history. That's why you claim royal We is used in Arabia but you can't prove it instead you're going to Canaan to prove Arabic. Is Arabic spoken in Canaan or are Canaanites Arabs?

If you cant see the point, its useless trying further. The point, my boy, is that the majesty of plurality has far more ancient origins than you knoew before I started taking you to class.

I have schooled you today. Elohim is not used as plural or royal We in Aramaic. It is used to show superiority between the Hebrew God and the Canaanite gods.
Go and look for something else to attempt to justify your lies

This is stupid and you dont even know the bare meaning of the word "Elohim."

I'm even shocked you do not realise the difference between historical contexts and justification. If historically Abraham was one of the first dwellers of Canaan, then you can't compare that with an African man going to Britain to kill and take over the land. You have to show Abraham, Isaac or Jacob killing anyone in Canaan to prove your point about Britain is not meaningless.

If you cant understand an analogy, there is no point discussing with you. It has nothing to do with any ancestor being British because people have moved all over the world and have ancestors everywhere.

Someone like you will think if you take a DNA test which shows you have ancestors from Mongolia (which is possible), then your god is within his rights to authorize you to invade Mongolia one million years later and kill every infant there.

Your level of idiocy and imbecility is too great to worry further about.

Besides, screaming "Bleep off" only showed you could no longer understand the discussion and thus the gutter craven decrepit animal in you took over. You have been seen through. You are a perfect notwiit, an illiterate and a slave. Nothing can be done for you. You belong in the dustbin.
Abeg good night.

Kukutente23:
Dummy. The Greeks who used to worship Zeus agree he's a myth. Israel still believe in yahweh till today. Yorubas still believe in Olodumare as well so he's no myth. I know your white demonrats told you there's no Olodumare and you swallowed it like cum but that's your business. If you can't spot the difference between Zeus and Yahweh in that context don't blame me for your daftness.

Fvck off abeg. You don't have the brain capacity to handle this kind of things.

Greek Gods, as with Roman Gods (copies of Greek Gods) were worshipped for a fact and even for eons.
The fact that they have discrded that belief does not change that. It does not prove that Yahweh is not a myth which many have also discarded and many will ultimately discard.

1000 years from now, no one will believe in any Yahweh.

The fact that any tribe still believes in any gods does nothing to prove that such a god is not a myth. You probably imagine that there are people who still believe the world originated from Ile Ife where a rope was sent down with some sand a cockerel to create the Earth therefore means that it is not a myth. What kind of imbecilic point is that?

But that is beyond you.

Oh but you believed that Saul killed some Amalekites and spared some. You had no problem bringing it up to tarnish Yahweh but when you're shown the other side you suddenly develop foresight to know lie from truth.

Using your own mythical stories to show you your duplicity has nothing to do with saying that I believe such rubbish. Its you who do, not me, and you who has to defend it.

We need to ask, as a follow on to the OP's questions in the thread about the lies, if the ontology of the Jewish Deity is something that rational people should be proud to be associated with.

It is ridiculous for example, the amount of matters (some of them quite petty)[/b]for which [b]Yahweh prescribes death by stoning -

1. For touching Mount Sinai  Exodus 19:13

2. For taking "accursed things"  Joshua 7:1-26 

3. For cursing or blaspheming  Leviticus 24:16 

4. For adultery (including urban despoil victims who fail to scream loud enough)  Deuteronomy 22:23-24 

5. For animals (like an ox that gores a human)  Exodus 21:28 

6. For a woman who is not a virgin on her wedding night  Deuteronomy 22:13-21

7. For worshipping other gods  Deuteronomy 17:2-5 

8. For preaching the wrong religion  Deuteronomy 13:5-10 

9. For disobeying parents  Deuteronomy 21:18-21 

10. For witches and wizards  Leviticus 20:27 

11. For giving your children to Molech  Leviticus 20:2 

12. For breaking the Sabbath  Numbers 15:32-56 

13. For cursing the king  1 Kings 21:10 

Does this not reek of a barbaric pagan deity issuing extremist injunctions?

AntiChristian:
Ah!

And this -

https://www.nairaland.com/438941/yahweh-again-deut-7

However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 Completely destroy them -- the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites -- as the LORD your God has commanded you. 18 Otherwise, they will teach you to follow all the detestable things they do in worshiping their gods, and you will sin against the LORD your God. (Deut 20.16ff)

What kind of God is this?

Just a common mass murderer - a detestable, bloodthirsty evil ritualistic one for that matter.

AntiChristian:
Ah!

Demon no dey wey pass Yahweh oh.

Check this out -

https://www.nairaland.com/434436/yahweh-lying-angels

AntiChristian:
Isaiah 45:7 reads "I form the light and create darkness; I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things."

Some disaster are reversible while some are not. For example, losing wealth is reversible but not losing kids!

How do we relate the verse above with Genesis 1:31 "God saw all that he had made, and it was very good.

1. Can disaster be good?

Check Job's story he was righteous in Job 1:1 and ended up being tested.

He lost his health, wealth and children!

This disaster was too much as the dead children couldn't be replaced!

2. How was the disaster good to the dead Job's children?

3. Can we say all the disaster we see are created by God? If no, how do we know which disaster is created by God or not?

Oh rememeber that the God of the bible also instigates lies in heaven.

The entitlemen mentality he also bequeathed Jews still exists today with Israeli terrorism and genocide.

In fact, the God of the Bible created racism. No one else did.

Kukutente23:
Fvck off
You jumped the first two and missed the point as usual.

U have only resorted to vulgarity because your ignorance and lack of an intellect has been exposed.
This is what happens when you are brainwashed by the white people you worship.

Good afternoon.

I rise.

Oh, WE rise.

Kukutente23:
Dummy elohim is not plural of divinity or whatever nonsense you write. Your claim is like saying "gods" of Yorubaland is plural being used for a single entity.
Elohim is plural of Eloha just as gods is plural of god.
Your ignorance is amusing. It was adapted in Exodus because the gods of Egypt were many and to make a distinction between them and the Hebrew God. How's that royal We which is used to denote the majesty or sovereignty of an individual?

Dummy. The Amalekites attacked first!! Let that sink into your thick skull

Zeus is a myth as agreed by the Greeks. Allah existed before Islam. It was stolen by Muhammad and conflated with the Hebrew God Yahweh
Till today, Jews and Christians insist on the existence of God
You're clearly not really bright mixing things up

Zeus is a myth, but Yahweh is not? What about Brahman? What about Olodumare?

Amalekites attacked first? That you even believe the story is a sign of your stupidity. I guess the Jews were peacefully on their way to Canaan to kill no one, and I wonder why you cant tell us the crime of those in Jericho when the Jews attacked them?

Enough. Your illiteracy is giving me a headache.

Kukutente23:
Dummy
So when has God told you your promised land is Timbuktu? Dummy like you did not know that when Abraham got to the Promised land, it was largely uninhabited or did you hear Abraham killed anyone before settling in Canaan? His children left for 400 years after which the land was taken over by pagans. Go and get a proper perspective you silly ignoramus. I thought you studied enough for two generations according to you.

This is one of the most stupid things I have ever read.

So while his children were in Egypt, no other people had children living in Canaan for 400 years? Abraham, in your idiocy was the first man to step foot on Cannaan after coming from Ur of the Chaldeans? And suddenly, magically, once he immigrated there the land became his sole inheritance? None of the people there had any rights? And only Abraham's children had the right to come there again from Egypt and kill them all (including infants and goats) to take the land back?

This is nothing but an idiotic ttempt to justify genocide, ethnic cleansing, slavery, theft, racism and imperialism.

I have nothing more to say to you.
One day Yahweh will issue a command that you must kill someone and lets see how you react.

Enjoy your beer and your day.

You have lost on every point.

1. Elohim - you agree it is plural.

2. Saul - You agree that if you dont kill as Yahweh says, Yahweh will punish you.

I think you are one of the most ignorant Christians I have ever encountered.

Stick to criticizing Tinubu - dont dare go near theology or history. They are not your strong point.

Kukutente23:
John 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

Try and spot the difference

If you cannot read the bold, you are blind. And I will not bother further/.

Kukutente23:
I did not say Allah made killing obligatory dummy. It is clearly written in the Qur'an. I simply quoted it.

And use your brain. I've not said Allah did anything wrong by making fighting obligatory for his believers. I'm pointing out to the islamist that he's not fulfilling a quranic injunction because I'm sure he's never engaged in any fighting for Allah since he was born.
This is why it is dumb to jump into conversations you know nothing about

Silly boy. If you heard from your God today that your promised land is Britain would you not also be a hypocrite to fail to fulfill his commands to kill them all and take the land - (remember he will punish you if you leave one infant or goat alive).

And that is exactly what your Yahweh did to Saul.

Jesus, you may even be retarded.

Kukutente23:
Elohim means the gods. It was adapted to mean Lord God in Hebrew.

So finally you agree that a plural of divinity and majesty has existed thousands of years before English.
You havent started.

A little learning is a terrible thing.

It becomes my business when some islamist thinks he can run his mouth. I'll show them their place. If an atheist wants to collect, he's welcome. Have you ever seen me attack traditional religion?

No worries it also becomes anyone's business when some ignorant worshipper of white men thinks he can run his mouth.

Now you're defending the aggressor. The land of the Amalekites was not part of the promised land. Stop writing rubbish out of ignorance. You have not explained when royal We was used in Arabic language.

Wait a minute, who was the aggressor? Not those who said their God has commanded them to annihilate Jericho, the Amalekites, and many others? Are you drunk? What promised land? Who promised it to them and by what authority? Were the people living there not entitled to their homes?

Its obvious there is an element of madness and stark illiteracy in you.

You're the running your mouth anyhow now. When God flogs you, you'll start crying like a bush baby.

Dont worry, when Allah flogs you, same will happen to you.
You dont even know what God is. You think he is a man. You know nothing.

Nobody is in a position to say what God did is right or wrong. It is Muhammad and his actions that's under the microscope compared to Jesus's

Good, then agree that nobody is in a position to say what Allah, Zeus or Chronos did was right or wrong.

You are actually not as clever as I thought you were.

Kukutente23:
Saul carried out God's command halfheartedly. If he had told God he wasn't going to do it, God would have let him be. God told Moses he wanted to destroy all Israel. Moses pleaded on their behalf and God spared them.
God spared Lot because of Abraham's request and was even prepared to spare Sodom and gomorrah based on a request from Abraham.

So rest with these foolish comparisons

You are a clear joker. You said Allah made killing obligatory. When shown Yahweh did the same, you come up with this wishwash?
Abeg go and sit down and drink a cold beer.

You know nothing.

Kukutente23:
When you are in Jesus, you're like God as well.

Are you ok? Can you explain the difference between being IN God and being LIKE God?

You simply are not clever enough to understand what you are saying. Jesus said precisely that we will be in him as he is in God, and that we we all be ONE. Why are you trying to use the word "like" God to escape the obvious.

Add for your rubbish about Trump, I'll simply advice you to not kill yourself over the man.

It is you who speaks rubbish such as comparing "they are poisoning our blood" to the ethos of Jehovah's Witnesses on blood transfusion.

Kukutente23:
Elohim is not majestic plural sir. It was used to differentiate between the Canaanite god and the God of Israel more like showing superiority. It is Canaanite in origin just like El. Yahweh is the given name of God of the Hebrews. Elohim is just an appellatiion like Allah which is actually derived from it. It was used loosely by Canaanites to refer to their gods especially Baal and his wife Baalim

This is escapist rubbish. I asked you if Elohim is plural. Answer that.

Kukutente23:
Jesus claimed to be one in God. It's in the scriptures. Go and study it well.

You havent even done 1 per cent of the study I have done in life my dear little brother.
Jesus also described what he meant - he said tht we are also one in him as he is one in God. So tell me are you also Jesus and are you also God? In fact are you now also me, because Jesus explained that we should be one in each other?

Don't bring Trump's matter here. If you want to rant about Trump, go to the foreign section

I can bring it wherever I want because I know 100% that Trump is also God to you and I can see why you support his racism since you believe in a racist God.

I have no doubt that you will defend the idea, for example, that the Jews are the chosen people.

Little brother, you have a long way to go in understanding history, philosophy, language, culture, theology, religion and the factors behind these things. You are a perfect example of a slave.

Kukutente23:
Yeah but Yahweh did not say fighting is obligatory on all who believe in him did he? Those commandments were for specific people in specific times. Quran 2:216 is generic. If you have context to it that's different, bring it.

Are you joking? What did Yahweh do to Saul for failing to kill every single woman, infant and even cattle of the Amalekites?
Are you joking?

I dont think you have studied these things even a little.
You are only blinded by your worship of white men.

Kukutente23:
1. Show evidence that royal We is much older than I think

2. Show evidence of its usage in pre-Islamic Arab

Please just tell me what Elohim means.

3. It's your business if you choose not to worship Him. It does not stop him from being God. You're not the first rebellious creature and you certainly won't be last. What we're doing here is comparative analysis between Islam and Christianity and we can all see who is falling. So many things they are confused about in their religion.

It is also your business if you choose not to worship Allah, Brahman, Zeus, Chronos, Odin, Olodumare, Chineke and thousands of others.

As for the Amalekites, go and read Exodus 17 to know why God said they must be wiped out. They are the first nation to confront Israel and stop the journey God asked them to carry out when they came out of Egypt

When did confrontation become a crime while a strange people are travelling to your land to exterminate you and take your land?

Secondly what kind of stupid goat of a god orders the murder of even infants and cattle?

I hope you know the Amalekites are not the only instance.

What happened to Jericho?

There are more cases oh. From this your land grabber racist Yahweh.

As you defend these things, I can understand better why you will defend Donald Trump.

14Then the Lord said to Moses, “Write this for a memorial in the book and recount it in the hearing of Joshua, that I will utterly blot out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven.”

So if Yahweh does this it is right but if Allah does the exact same thing, it is wrong.

You simply have double standards and you are blinded by your worship of white men, who have sold you their propaganda, and which you dont think independently of.

Kukutente23:
Fighting has been made obligatory upon you ˹believers˺

I sha hope you remember the numerous instances where Yahweh commanded genocide. Even for infants and to the extent of cattle.
Do not have double standards.