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Kukutente23:
You need to understand this facts so you won't think I'll waste my time painting God to the picture you want. I won't because I know better whom I worship

There are two men you worship. One is a Jewish Carpenter who never claimed to be God, and the other is a white supremacist, racist, rapist, fraudster, con man, convict, who hates you but you you believe is God as well.

Kukutente23:
You want to add your own ba
Till now you can't explain where royal we is found in Arabic o

Besides if you think the majestic plural originated in English, you have not studied well.
Start your studies with the meaning of "Elohim."

It is not a singular term, it is a plural term used to refer to what they called their one god (who of course does not exist).
If you think El, Elohim, Yahweh are the same thing, you are on a long thing.

Worst of all, your root mission is to claim that a Jewish Carpenter is God.
You are free to worship a man just as you equate him to Donald Trump (you still dont know that Trump is God to you). But I will never worship a man.

Kukutente23:
You want to add your own ba
Till now you can't explain where royal we

The Royal WE is much older than you know. Besides, I dont believe Allah exists. I was just telling you the way they write / talk.

This is straight from the ten commandments. So you can see that God by his nature is a very jealous and transactional God. What you seek is what you get. But more importantly, God is very partial. He is not the God who administers justice fairly as you humans think. See Malachi 1

And why is such a petty unfair god worthy of worship?

Start your explanation and defense of the barbarian, non existent pagan deity called Yahweh from here -

1 Samuel 15:3. This verse records the words of God through the prophet Samuel to Saul, “Now go and attack the Amalekites and completely destroy everything they have. Do not spare them. Kill men and women, infants and nursing babies,[1] oxen and sheep, camels and donkeys.”

Any one with a brain knows Donald Trump is an idiot voted and loved and worshipped by far greater idiots.

justlove91:
You've to be willing to put in effort to study hundreds of those communications to get a picture of what is going on, you can't just hear about it or read a few pages and think you know what it's all about.

Now to your post.

The law is that one must put in effort to acquire knowledge, it's not just laid down for you with ease. Even those communicating put in effort in their respective spheres to acquire knowledge, even though there are higher beings that already know what they're trying to know yet they don't just give them the knowledge, they can only guide them in the right direction to acquire such knowledge. So don't expect those communicating to come and lay knowledge down for us to cram.

Also, you must realize that the main purpose of their communication is only three parts :
1. To demonstrate that death is not the end, it is just a transition to another plane of existence.
2. To let us know that we prepare our place there by the life we live here, religions or beliefs cannot save us, we cannot be saved by the death of a fella on the cross. Whatsoever a man sow that shall he reap.
3. We're not stuck for eternity in whatsoever sphere we find ourself after death, hope is eternal, and one can rise even from the darkest sphere to the brightest sphere according to law not grace.


Visualize an onion with its many layers, the earth is like the center of the onion, the spheres are in concentric circle around the earth in layers extending out into space, such that when we look at the sun or stars we're literally looking through the spheres.
The closer the sphere is to earth the more it resembles it.

Now, the higher or farther ones place in the spheres is from earth, the harder it becomes to come to the earth environment (they say it feels suffocating), this means that the only beings able to "inhale" the earth atmosphere and thus communicate are those closest to earth (within the first to third spheres).

So, since these beings spheres are closest to earth, their enviroment will also resemble (to certain extent)earth in its features. Maybe there are no houses, trees, flowers, animals in farther spheres, I can't tell because they never communicate.


There is always a constant inflow of people transitioning from here to there nah, so there is no need for reproduction.
They obtain there energy through other means than food.

You heard wrong my brother

There is nothing immaterial, eveything that exist is material ie matter in varying degree of vibration.

Do you read the Grail Message.

justlove91:
Having studied hundreds of messages purported to have been communicated by "dead" people through mediums, describing their environments, I've come to believe that physicality is a matter of where one is looking from.

1. They say they inhabit a physical world that is as solid and physical as here on earth. Their houses are solid and they cannot pass through it just as we can't walk through our houses.
2. When they visit the earth plane (here), our houses and other things that make up our physical world are misty and insubstantial to them and they can easily see through or pass through our walls because it is not physical to them.
3. They have a body that is as physical to touch and sight as their former earth body. This body is not just a vacuum, it is a biological machine that contains internal organs like brain, heart, lungs, blood etc though some organs are not present such as the reproductive and digestive organs.

So, from our perspective, we're material while they're immaterial but from their perspective they're material while we and our world are immaterial.

The body is just the same as a dress.

fredwill1357:
I didn't ask you any private question, I only asked your views on meditation and if you possibly engage in it. Are there factors that you think or know that can heighten or retrogress spiritual gifts?

What do you want to know about me or my gifts?

One factor is hunger / fasting. The body gets weak and the spirit gets stronger.

Another factor is paying attention to symbols nd energies around you.

Strong meditation does also work. Try and involve the use of water in the process. There is magic in water.

plaetton:
Very very good analysis.
Now, if you are referring to inter-dimensional beings from another dimension, then I absolutely believe and subscribe to that.
In fact, I can opine that the majority of so called spiritual encounters are chance or accidental encounters with inter-dimensional beings.
I subscribe to this because it makes solid scientific sense from everything we know so far about quantum physics, frequencies and the electromagnetic spectrum.
If, for example, our consciousness is only limited certain frequencies in the electromagnetic spectrum for sight , sound , touch, etc, it is logical to assume our physical universe is also limited to certain frequencies beyond what is available on the electromagnetic spectrum. This would logically mean that the possibility of other universes huming on lower or higher frequency bands than our own.
Now, since we know or have come to the conclusion that our brains possess quantum-mechanical characteristics and function like quantum computers, it is plausible that our brains create quantum fields that extend way beyond the limits of our physical senses.
Therefore, it would be plausible that once in a while,under stress, trauma or induced conditions, our brains leap out and briefly entangles with beings or objects beyond our physical frequency band.
It would also make sense that through practice and meditation, the brain can be attenuated or modulated to stretch beyond our normal range of perception.

Deepsight, let's hear your opinion on this particular perspective.

It happens all the time and if you are used to it, you will have encountered many beings from different worlds.

Kukutente23:
According to the doings of the land of Egypt, where you dwelt, you shall not do; and according to the doings of the land of Canaan, where I am bringing you, you shall not do; nor shall you walk in their ordinances.

And that's why he instructs genocide all the time in the Bible.

Yahweh, my friend, was nothing but a blood thirsty, genocidal, barbaric pagan mountain god of the Jews.

LordReed:
Thanks for your reply. This is a lot to take in so I will take my time to respond.

Still awaiting your reply.

Good morning.

plaetton:
I certainly have.
Many times.
Not only did I have them frequently in the past, but I actually began to take notes by my bedside and catalogue them.

Then you know its true.

fredwill1357:
I believe you 100 percent. I am also spiritually gifted but mine is no longer as frequent as it used to be, I started having poor dream recollection in my middle teens.
I want to ask, do you meditate? Are there factors that you think can heighten or retrogress spiritual gifts?

Tell me more and I will tell you more.

This thing I am saying is not a joke. It's very real.

AntiisIam:
Royal WE was introduced in 12th century I believed you could see that from the link you dropped?

Are you saying quran or allah came into existence after 12th century to have make used of Royal WE?

Royal We has always been there, even before what is written in that page - it has many forms, and in this case we are looking at the Divine plural of majesty.

Go and attend to my 20 Verses. There is enough there to keep you busy for twenty years.

AntiisIam:
The context of John 10:30 is different from what is in John 17:21 you came with. I asked if you understand the bolded or not I will explain rather than confusing yourself with a simple sentence. If you have problem comprehending this, "I in them and you in me" tell me I'll help you out

I have no problems understanding that, it speaks for itself.
Unless you want to say it makes you Jesus, you cant say that he also meant he was God.

I gave 20 verses that make it clear he was not God and didnt consider himself so.
Have you addressed them?

AntiisIam:
Welcome my run away customer, here is the question you and your fellow slaves are avoiding to answer


Quran 10:94

And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was)....


If Islam is strictly monotheist, who are the WE there?

You are free to insult your dad but mind you, I won't insult you yet so that you won't use that as an escaping route

Plural of royalty or majestic plural.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_we

AntiisIam:
Read chapter 23 it says


23 I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.


Did you understand the bolded?

Its very obvious he meant this metaphorically even by his own explanation. Otherwise he will not use the same words to describe the inity of his followers which he was praying for.

Kobojunkie:
Story land! 😩

They attacked UN HQ but avoided the Nigerian Government installments? They equally avoided the abodes of politicians who steal from the Nigerian people? You claim they attacked the military, you mean a bunch of soldiers hanging out somewhere or the a military barracks where high ranking officials are based?

If I am not mistaken they have attacked military installations before as well.

Kobojunkie:
They can't because their own cowardice is no different from that of Book Haram and other terrorists who would rather attack the poor and weak than focus their attention on the political class and their assets bought with stolen money

Stop defaming Boko Haram, they attacked the military too many times to count, they were bold, even if evil. They also attacked the UN HQ in Abuja and many other Govt targets, expecially prisons.

AntiisIam:
In which verse? Hope allah has not blindfolded you

John 17:21 -

New Living Translation
I pray that they will all be one, just as you and I are one—as you are in me, Father, and I am in you. And may they be in us so that the world will believe you sent me.

https://biblehub.com/john/17-21.htm

PS: I am not Muslim. I dont endorse any Abrahamic religion.

Kukutente23:
You have missed the idea of Trinity. Trinity does not say God is not one. It says God exists or has appeared in three forms to we humans. One is as God the father who sits on the throne, the son who is the word of God and became Jesus in human flesh, and His spirit which is the breath of God. All three forms or expression are also mentioned in the Quran. That they are not conceptualized as Trinity does not remove their existence. It is simply the ignorance of Muhammad who focused more on the polytheism of his Arab kinsmen than the true knowledge of God. Know that Allah has existed in Meccan worship before Muhammad. In fact, the name Allah is coined from the Aramaic language El Eloha which means "the god". So every concept and idea of religion or religiosity mentioned by Muhammad is not new. They all existed before him. He simply went with his own understanding of issues and sought to incorporate all sides into his view in a bid to be acceptable to all. When that failed, he went political and declared war on whoever disagreed with him.

For example, a lot of you fail to realise that God's first and only physical appearance to Abraham was as three persons. Read Gen 18vs1-3

Now the question is if it is indeed God that appeared to Abraham in human form as the Bible recorded or he was simply misguided

I have given you scripture. Try not to be the usual religionist who is content to ignore his scripture in favour of his dogma.

PS: Three entities making an appearance says nothing to suggest that Jesus is God, or even that God is triune.

AntiisIam:
John 10:30
“I and the Father are one.

In that very verse, he added "Just as ye and I are one."
So are you now Jesus?

And also therefore God?

Its obvious he meant of one mind, or united in thought.

cococandy:
If he acted like you or voted for Trump, he wouldn’t be getting it.

I don’t know why men like you have a problem with evil feminist women when there are so many conservative/republican/“traditional” women you can get with.

I don’t get it

At a point you've gotta do a quick assessement of the intelligence and literacy of your co-discussant and decide if carrying on is worthwhile. From a distance, I can tell you the person you are devoting so much time to probably doesnt have a GCE. I can also tell you for free that that person never goes near anything that can remotely described as a book.

Kukutente23:
Even Trinity exists in the Quran. You are just too blind to see it

Sorry, but AntiChristian is right on this. The pagan doctrine of the Trinity is most unbiblical good sir.

I once collated twenty clear verses from scripture which make this clear - over ten years ago on this board -



D1 - I Tim. 2:5: - For there is one God, and one Mediator of God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus Christ”

D2 - John 14:28 – “I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I”.

D3 - I Cor. 11:3 - “But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God “

D4 - Eph. 1:15 - 17. - “15 Therefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints,16 do not cease to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers: 17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him”

D5 - I Pet 1:3 - "Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ"

D6 - Mark 10:18 - “So Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God.”

D7 - I Cor. 15:28 - “Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.”

D8 - John 15:1 – 10:“I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. 2 “Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away;[a] and every branch that bears fruit He prunes, that it may bear more fruit. 3 “You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. 4 “Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me."

5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. 6 “If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 “If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you. 8 “By this My Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit; so you will be My disciples. 9 “As the Father loved Me, I also have loved you; abide in My love. 10 “If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.

D9 - John 20:17 – “Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.’”

D 10 - John 17:1 - 8 – “1 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You, 2 “as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should[a] give eternal life to as many as You have given Him. 3 “And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. 4 “I have glorified You on the earth. I have finished the work which You have given Me to do. 5 “And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.”

6 “I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word. 7 “Now they have known that all things which You have given Me are from You. 8 “For I have given to them the words which You have given Me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came forth from You; and they have believed that You sent Me."

D 11 - Mark 13:32 - “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”

D12 - Acts 2:22 – 24 “Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a Man attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through Him in your midst, as you yourselves also know— 23 “Him, being delivered by the determined purpose and foreknowledge of God, you have taken[b] by lawless hands, have crucified, and put to death; 24 “whom God raised up, having loosed the pains of death, because it was not possible that He should be held by it.

D13 - Luke 22:41 - 42 – “41 And He was withdrawn from them about a stone’s throw, and He knelt down and prayed, 42saying, “Father, if it is Your will, take this cup away from Me; nevertheless not My will, but Yours, be done.” (The Prayer in Gethsemane).

D14 - John 8:40 - “But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God. Abraham did not do this.”

D15 - Luke 23:32 - 34 – “There were also two others, criminals, led with Him to be put to death. 33 And when they had come to the place called Calvary, there they crucified Him, and the criminals, one on the right hand and the other on the left. 34 Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do.”

D16 - Matt 21:33 – 42 “33 Hear another parable: There was a certain landowner who planted a vineyard and set a hedge around it, dug a winepress in it and built a tower. And he leased it to vinedressers and went into a far country. 34 “Now when vintage–time drew near, he sent his servants to the vinedressers, that they might receive its fruit. 35 “And the vinedressers took his servants, beat one, killed one, and stoned another.

36 “Again he sent other servants, more than the first, and they did likewise to them. 37 “Then last of all he sent his son to them, saying, ‘They will respect my son.’ 38 “But when the vinedressers saw the son, they said among themselves, ‘This is the heir. Come, let us kill him and seize his inheritance.’ 39 “So they took him and cast him out of the vineyard and killed him.

40 “Therefore, when the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those vinedressers?”

41 They said to Him, “He will destroy those wicked men miserably, and lease his vineyard to other vinedressers who will render to him the fruits in their seasons.”

42 Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures:
‘The stone which the builders rejected
Has become the chief cornerstone.
This was the Lord’s doing,
And it is marvelous in our eyes’

(The Parable of the Vineyard)

D17 - Matt 27:45 – 46 “45 Now from the sixth hour until the ninth hour there was darkness over all the land. 46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” that is, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”

D18 – Mark 16:19 – “So then, after the Lord had spoken to them, He was received up into heaven, and sat down at the right hand of God.” [And all other scripture which refers to Christ as sitting at the Right Hand Side of God, including Psalm 110:1, and all similar scripture in the Book of Revelation].

D19 - John 3:16 - “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 “For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. [Only Begotten Son - "Monogenes" - and all other verses in scripture where the term "monogenes" i.e: "only begotten" is used].

D20 - Deuteronomy 6:4 - "Hear o Isreal, the Lord our God, the Lord is One."


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cococandy:
Only a dubious person would equate Trump to anything that has to do with God.

Shockingly, many Christians support him allegedly on Christian grounds and for the alleged advancement of Christian values.
A greater irony could not be found.

WriterNig:
👍🏻 Like for Russia-Africa, share for USA/Nazi/NATO 卍

This man, you are really working very hard oh. I hope and pray they are paying you well in Roubles.

Mosdiii:
What is he even saying Report to Efcc headquarters immediately and stop ranting

What happened when Yahya reported there?

Saao:
the fact that you built a house, you also want to destroy it? When you build a house, is because u want to enjoy it, after enjoyed you, must you destroy it? The fact that your parents gave birth to you, did they also have right to kill you? Wike and Atiku are not more than pdp, when they're ready to deal with shenanigans in pdp called wike , they will but let it not be too late. Failure of pdp to organise themselves last year made us to be where we are today.

You are right especially with your last line. Obviously if Obi and Kwankwaso remained within, they would likely have won. Considering the slim margin.

What is clear to me is that if they do not unite in 2027 then they are absolutely unserious and will lose again. Just look at the APC, about five parties / groups had to unite to seize power from the PDP in 2015. And they have been a curse to this country but they got that right. A Tinubu could subordinate his ambition for eight years to a Buhari to make it work. If the opposition today cannot do the same they are wasting their time.

smokinloud:
Trump doesn't just talk, he follows through on his promises. Additionally, Putin would likely not invade Ukraine during Trump's presidency.

Joker. You dont know diddly squat.
Trump is most likely a Russian asset.

WrriterNg:
Russia has and have always had more weapons of mass destruction (Nukes) than the US + NATO since time immemorial.

In 1975 Russia had 75,000 Nukes, US had 52,000.

Now Russia has 6500 Nukes, US has 5200 or so. But we both know they have more than this.

Cuz there's no way they'll ever agree to dismantle all their Nukes.

The amount of nukes doesnt matter as both sides have enough to destroy the world several times over.

smokinloud:
Trump would force Ukraine to live at peace with Russia. It's what Trump has been saying since.

He aint gonna do shit except kowtow to Russia, period.

smokinloud:
I'm saying the obvious here. Trump nor send anybody's papa, he prefers to spend money on Americans than giving Ukraine money.

How does that solve the issue?

DomPerignon:
They will JFK him so hard that before he is given a state burial , whoever takes over from him would have instituted a war draft and American boys will be shipped to fight in the ME, Ukraine and Taiwan.

This is America oh.

A country that had their president shot in broad daylight and the Warren Commission is still yet to release its findings .

America is pure Jewish gangster land and Trump trying to go against them will catch a bullet to this dome. They already tried killing him twice for running, you think they won't kill him if he steps out of line ?

I am still not sure if anyone tried to kill him - particularly not sure if any serious, state level or global money bags tried. Those ones would have been more clinical.