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GloriousGbola:
spot the difference

Its benumbing the degree to which most Trumpists - especially Christian Trumpists - dont realize that they have come to worship Trump over their professed God and their Christ.

GloriousGbola:
,,,

IjeBos:
Exactly!!!!

For those who it may miss:

"Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?" also expressed as "troublesome priest" or "meddlesome priest" ) is a quote attributed to Henry II of England preceding the death of Thomas Becket, the Archbishop of Canterbury, in 1170. While the quote was not expressed as an order, it prompted four knights to travel from Normandy to Canterbury, where they killed Becket due to an ongoing dispute between crown and church. The phrase is commonly used in modern-day contexts to express that a ruler's wish may be interpreted as a command by his or her subordinates. It is also commonly understood as shorthand for any rhetorical device allowing leaders to covertly order or exhort violence among their followers, while still being able to claim plausible deniability for political, legal, or other reasons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_no_one_rid_me_of_this_turbulent_priest%3F

IjeBos:
I can partially agree. I think there were two groups of arguments.
1.) The people that said he directly said he wanted people to shoot her.
2.) The people who said that his continued use of violent rhetoric against his opponents serves to normalize violence against them.

I can agree with you as to 1 that he didn't directly say that.

But I also think his comments were purposeful in order to ferment hate against her and normalize violence against her .
I don't think for 1 second he was really trying to make a political argument against people who want to fight wars. As he could have made that argument with people who he intends to put in his administration if he wins.
It's also an argument Dems have made in the past without the same violent imagery while being called Doves by the same people who support him now.
He singled her out for her opposition to him.

Spot on.

cr7lomo:
Change status quo... so tomorrow they will have freedom to prostitution, to end up turning the young ones to degenerates .... so that they can have indiscriminate sex and flow out lots of abortions ... so that they will ruin the Nuclear family system like usa did ... this one has been possessed by evil spirit and she wants to spread the devil's plans ...

Whether people like u agree or not.... places like Iran, Dubai , Saudi have more family values and safer than places like the western world that they wanna emulate

This is BS. Gender Apartheid is barbaric.

Update . . .

Breaking:
The authorities in Iran are now claiming that a young woman, who courageously removed her clothes in protest against harassment by the morality, police at her university, suffers from psychological illness and has been admitted to a mental health hospital.

This accusation of mental instability is a familiar tactic by the Islamic Republic. In 2014, when I launched the My Stealthy Freedom campaign against compulsory hijab, the regime used similar lies against me, claiming I had a mental breakdown, undressed myself on the London subway and was raped by three men.

This is how they attempt to undermine those who resist their oppression.

I believe her life is now in serious danger. I urge international media, human rights organizations, and the international community to see through these lies and support her before is too late.
Stand up for Iranian women who have had enough of this regime’s gender apartheid.
This woman has been forcibly hospitalized under psychiatric supervision—marking the start of torture and, soon after, the cycle of forced confessions.

One student who witnessed the entire incident says:
“On Saturday, November 2, we saw the university’s security and Basij forces trying to forcibly drag a female student into the security room, under the pretext of her not wearing a proper hijab. She resisted, and in the struggle, her hoodie was pulled off, leaving her with only her undergarments underneath. Shocked, the security officers let her go, after which, in a moment of rage, she removed her pants and threw them at the officers.”

This eyewitness account directly contradicts the regime’s narrative and shows the extent of brutality Iranian women face for the most basic acts of defiance.

Let’s be her voice.

https://x.com/AlinejadMasih/status/1853096281855479984

MightySparrow:
I have held this view that is of no divine origin. Islam was triggered by Mohammed's greed, sex, and control. Of all the prophets, he performed unbelievable sexual practices - sodomy, sleeping with the dead, advocated for sex and had revelation about houris with insatiable sex drive in Aljaanah. Men with everlasting erection and women with sumptuous, tantalizing boobs powered by alcohol for endless orgy in the holy paradise of a sex maniac Allah

Is the religion correctly named Islam or Sexlam?

Almost everything Mohammad did was driven by his sexual urges. He was a great liar, plagiarist, tyrant, pervert, rapist, paedophile, caravan robber and mass murderer.

IjeBos:
I think liberals are doing what liberals do.
They are looking at this episode outside a larger context as it is a one off.
Trump uses these types of violent rhetoric to normalize that violence onto his detractors.
He first said that Liz Cheney should face a televised military tribunal because she was a Traitor.
What happens to traitors?
Now this.
And by doing so, Normalize Trump's violent rhetoric once again.

Liberals also want to see it as some larger anti-war view.
But, Trump has some of the biggest warmongers as supporters.
Tom Cotton, Mike Pompeo, etc. etc.
When did he say something similar to them?
Even Trump arguing Israel should bomb Iran's nuclear facilities. What would ensue then?
Never mind the utter ridiculousness that it was Republicans who got us into most of our wars.

To be a Trumper, like Raumdeuter, you have to love cognitive dissonance and be willing at a moment to do 180 flips on everything you said you believed.

As much as I detest Trump, he was taken out of context on Liz Cheney. He was only saying its easy to be a warhawk from the comfort of your office but how would you feel if the guns were pointed at you.

Your last line is so very true.

God1000:
This is hilarious, what does the loudmouthed Trump have to say now, MAGA new way of rigging the election


Meanwhile congratulations in advance to Kamala Harris, I strongly believe she will win

Vance is the only person i have seen far more disgusting than Trump.

I dont know how they want to do it oh, but if PDP, Labour and NNPC do not come together in 2027, they are not ready to change Tinubu.
They will do well to remember that it took about four parties coming together to remove PDP.

AntiChristian:
Have you seen him who takes his own lust (vain desires) as his ilah (god), and Allah knowing (him as such), left him astray, and sealed his hearing and his heart, and put a cover on his sight. Who then will guide him after Allah? Will you not then remember? Qur'an 45:23

Who strays more than one who follows his desires without guidance from God? God does not guide the unjust. Qur'an 28:50

Bye!

How do you know i follow my lust without guidance from God?
Have we met before? Do you know me?

SpatialKing:
Ask these questions maybe when you are eventually dead, you will definitely get the answers ....

For now

I thank God for the gift of life...

Do dead men ask questions?

AntiChristian:
Yes! Everyone worship something!

Again, you know this since you are omniscient and you are in everybody's mind and life right?

SpatialKing:
Gift of Life from God

Is life really a gift?

1. Can you give a gift to something that does not exist or is not alive?
2. Is this Earthlife a gift or a curse?

AntiChristian:
Re-read the last comment!

Yes, i get you: me who is inside my own mind does not know what my mind does, but you who is outside it know, abi?

AntiChristian:
You worship something but you don't know it!

And you know this because you live inside my mind right?

AntiChristian:
Okay so what that means is that you're a slave to what you worship!

I dont worship anything.

AntiChristian:
You're slaves too!

But it's amazing why these servitude exist in the Bible.

1. Paul allegedly said in Romans 6:16:
Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey—whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?

This means if we obey God then we are God's slaves!

2. Paul continues later in Romans 6:22:
But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life.

Here we see that those who have been set free from sins become slaves of God!

3. Luke also said in Acts 3:13
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus.

Here we see Jesus relegated to being a servant of God by Luke.

(Many Bible translations including NKJV used "Servant Jesus" in the above verse but KJV, Catholic and Aramaic Bible translation used "son Jesus". Amplified Bible decided to used "Servant and son Jesus" showing amplification of course. Young's Literal translation used "His Child Jesus".)

Allah says in the Qur'an that Jesus called himself a slave of Allah.
"He ['Iesa (Jesus)] said: Verily! I am a slave of Allah, He has given me the Scripture and made me a Prophet;"
Qur'an 19:30

I am not a Christian.

saphiere:
Oxygen

This cant be a gift because without it you would not exist at all. So its like calling your blood a gift.

umarc19:
Islam is the best gift I have ever received, not because I deserve it but because of HIS love for me.

Alhamdulillah ala Ni'matul Islam

AntiChristian:
Islam!

But according to this gift, you are slaves.

My mother's love.

VeryWickedBro:
This is not stripping
I will take her serious when she does that

True to your moniker.

mariovito:
Vagina with balls

To imagine that just in the 70s, Iran was a secular state.

And a very open, liberal one for that matter!
Political Islam is just horrible.

Unbelievable bravery. Astonishing Courage. I salute this young lady. Balls of steel.

See the video here -

A student at Iran’s University of Science and Research was accosted by Islamic Regime morality police for showing her hair beneath her hijab. They tore her clothes as they attacked her.

So in protest she took her clothes off and stood in the square in nothing but her underwear.… pic.twitter.com/K7x6glNccG

— The Persian Jewess (@persianjewess) November 2, 2024

Kukutente23:
But being Muslim requires glorifying Arabic culture and places
A muslim is expected to face Mecca five times a day to pray
A muslim is expected to pray in Arabic only
A muslim is expected to travel to Arabia at least once in his lifetime
So how do you do all that and still say you're not Arabic or Arab culturally assimilated

To the extent that one must kiss a black meteorite simply because it fell in Arabia millenia ago.
And yet there is no god but Allah. And Mohammad is his messenger.

One could have been fooled into thinking that that meteorite is either a god as well or its messenger.

Kobojunkie:
Price of a barrel of crude has fallen so this much isn't rocket science. The problem is when will price in Nigeria stabilize to reflect this drop.

Dont be expectant. Nigeria is not a normal place.

Jakumo:
I hail The Always Mighty Deep Sight, who ranks among Nairaland's most articulate and politically informed contributors. It is always a pleasant surprise to stumble on a learned opinion posted by you, sir. Your observations ring true about America's evangelical fanatics and the desperate role they play in trying to impose a self-avowed tyrant on America simply because he supports their opposition to the right of women to make their own reproductive and health choices free of government meddling in such personal and private matters.

The sentiment most often encountered from around the world as the last few days of the USA 2024 election count down has been one of bewilderment that the polls show both presidential candidates neck-and-neck in a dead heat even though one of the candidates faces 34 felony counts that may land him in jail if he is defeated in this election. Truth is indeed stranger than fiction.

Honestly. Its utterly bizzarre. And speaks to the insanity of humanity.

Jakumo:
Trump is the poster boy for the KKK and for the concept of elevating racist bigotry to the status of the national blood sport it once was in America.

The largest demographic group making up Donald Trump's cult following comprises largely poor and semi-literate trailer-park-dwelling angry white people at the very bottom of the earnings pecking order who long for the days of slavery when American blacks were dehumanized and brutalized with absolute impunity to penalize them for the sin of existing in America.

To please his die-hard racist cult followers, Donald Trump knows that he only needs to baffle his herd with meaningless bullshit spewed during his rally ramblings, in stark contrast to Democratic presidential contender Kamala Harris who dazzles the American electorate with the brilliance of her proposed policy blueprint.

Sir 'That!' Long time. How hast thou been?

I could not agree more, very well put.

Another demographic which drives the MAGA Cult sadly are Christian Evangelicals. They do so on account of his stance with respect to matters relating to LGBTQ issues, abortion and the like. Whilst I sympathize with them on some of these issues, it is benumbing that Christians have come to virtually worship one of the most openly and pointedly immoral and amoral men to venture onto the political stage ever.

IjeBos:
I guess he was right about Fifth Ave.

You can say that again in many ways. And the most instructive thing about MAGA Cultists is that they cannot be dissuaded no matter how obnoxious, how low or how depraved he goes. They will always excuse it.

Today, I heard benumbing re interpretations of "they are poisoning our blood" which would have made me shocked if I were not used to it.

Anither563:
He's just being himself, a clown.

This is how every depravity and obscenity he has spewed over the years gets excused. "He is just being himself." Slowly, people have become hypnotized into accepting this man's utter low life depravity as normal and even "refreshingly natural."

I honestly dont how what to say to those who support this man. Especially black folk who do. The worst Stockhom Syndrome ever.
But just look at this. How anyone can think this clown is suitable for the presidency of the USA is beyond me.

Kukutente23:
Lol. Abundant proof indeed

Just remember 5th Avenue. I cant waste my energy.

Kukutente23:

You've not been able to prove racist
You've not been able to prove rapist either

There is more than abundant proof for both (and one even noted by a court of competent jurisdiction), but I have decided not to waste my energy because I can see that nothing will sway you. Fifth Avenue and the gun shot, as he rightly said. I trust you understand.

Enjoy.