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Kukutente23:
You see left leaning media again?



This is Hitler's original quote as written from that link which you posted yourself. Hitler actually said "blood poisoning" not "poisoning the blood". And it's obvious Hitler's trying to imply that his original race was mixed with the Jewish race through marriage which is totally not the message Trump was passing. But here you are swallowing it like gospel without any form of interrogation. Man!!
Trump's first daughter is married to a Jew. His last daughter married a man with Nigerian roots. But he's a racist who feels blood is being poisoned through marriage according to you and the left media

When one starts to distinguish between "blood poisoning" and "poisoning the blood" in a discussion about immigrants and races, such a discussion has failed and should be promptly closed.

I wish you luck on your chosen "objective" path.
I will not attempt to dissuade you further.

Kukutente23:
But it is. The phrase is the same with that of Hitler's. It's the context that's different. If you insist that the context does not matter and anywhere the phrase is called up, such person who uses it is simply a racist, it will be fair to imply from you that hospitals that diagnose blood poisoning are simply racists and JW who think blood transfusion is blood poisoning are racists as hell

This is terrible reasoning. But this happens when one is a committed Trumpist.
I will not even attempt to frustrate myself by explaining why this is horrible reasoning.

It should be obvious to anyone who is serious. And I know you are smarter than this.
Enjoy.

Kukutente23:
The question is not what I think but the context he made the statement. He was talking of illegal migrants some of whom are known to be criminals and drug dealers. So he might have been referring to the antecedents of criminals among the migrants. The important thing is that he was not using Hitler's phrase except you mean anywhere blood poisoning is mentioned is a reference to Hitler's xenophobia like in an hospital

Enough said. Dissappointing, but expected. No worries then.

Kukutente23:
Like I told you, JW believe blood transfusion is blood poisoning. Do you also insist they believe so because they learned it from Hitler?

Oh and this comparison is beyond disingenous. I will not bother to elucidate, I know you are smart enough to know that it is.

Kukutente23:
Stop muddling things up. I said majority. Fox being the largest network does not make it the majority.

I still don't know what you mean by demonization of other races. You said yourself that he's referring to illegal immigrants. That's an open statement and when you say it is a demonization of other races, do you mean illegal immigrants are of a particular race and calling out a crime is racism? There's no evidence he took the quote from Hitler. That's simple paranoia. Like I told you, JW believe blood transfusion is blood poisoning. Do you also insist they believe so because they learned it from Hitler?



Your characterization of Trump is based on the mainstream media's painting. If you say Trump is the worst character, what do you say of GW Bush who went to war that claimed millions of lives on a lie and left the country in tatters and a terrorist enclave. What about Obama, after instigating and actively ensuring the ouster of Gaddafi, today, Libya is a hub for terrorism, racism and and smuggling which is affecting even Nigeria. At have to return back to and US to buy war weapons worth billions from our scarce resources. I'm sure those are good characters to you because you elevate how the media characterises them above their actual deeds in office!!
You have not been able to substantiate any of your labels on Trump other than what the media wants you to accept

You still have avoided my question. I will ask one last time. What do you think Trump meant by that statement?
If you avoid it again, i will drop the subject.

Thx.

@ Kukutente23 -

Former President Trump has repeatedly said undocumented immigrants are "poisoning the blood of our country," language echoing the rhetoric of white supremacists and Adolf Hitler.

Why it matters: The phrase "poisoning the blood of our country" has a deep racist and antisemitic history, and the comments come as some Republicans have openly endorsed the once-fringe and racist "white replacement theory."

At least four times in recent months, Trump referred to immigrants as "poisoning the blood" of the nation.

He said it during an interview with a right-leaning website in September.

He said it again at a rally in December in New Hampshire.

He repeated it in a Truth Social post in December, then again at a campaign stop in Iowa.

Trump also claimed, with no evidence, that the migrants were terrorists or from mental institutions and cited Asia and Africa as places from where they are "pouring in."

In response to the comments, fellow Republicans so far have offered tepid disagreement or even openly endorsed the Nazi-era rhetoric, Axios Sneak Peek author Zachary Basu reports.

Sen. J.D. Vance (R-Ohio) called Trump's comments "objectively and obviously true to anybody who looks at the statistics about fentanyl statistics" — and slammed comparisons to Hitler as "preposterous."

Reality check: The remarks "poisoning the blood of our country" are straight out of Hitler's 1925 autobiographical manifesto, "Mein Kampf" — his blueprint for a "pure Aryan" Germany and the removal of Jews.

"All great cultures of the past perished only because the originally creative race died out from blood poisoning," Hitler wrote.

"He poisons the blood of others but preserves his own blood unadulterated," Hitler wrote of Jewish males allowing Jewish females to marry white Christians.

"Whenever Aryans have mingled their blood with that of an inferior race, the result has been the downfall of the people who were the standard-bearers of a higher culture," he wrote in another passage.

https://www.axios.com/2023/12/30/trump-poisoning-the-blood-racism

I ask you again what exactly you believe Trump means when he makes this statement.

Kukutente23:
First, I'm not a Trumpist or Trumpster. I'm simply following the US political cycle dispassionately and not getting sucked up in media brushing. I believe you're aware that majority of the media in the US are left leaning and do not like Trump especially.

Fox News is the largest network in America.

He has been called Hitler, fascist, rapist etc etc by the left media with no evidence and most have swallowed it. How do you call someone whom you accuse of wanting to isolate America from the rest of the world Hitler? That's anti-Hitler. Hitler wanted world domination on his terms.

He praised Hitler for doing some good things and also said he wished his General's were like Hitler's Generals. Furthermore his demonization of other races is very reminiscent of Hitler. Particularly the statement "they are poisoning our blood." - I asked you specifically what this statement meant and you have avoided the question. Please I ask again.

Also, note how the Democrats switched gears from campaigning on policy to attacking the character of trump when the campaigns reached the homestretch. It's obvious that they realise their policy message is not selling so they intend to stoke up Trump-phobia as a driving force to take office.
Those are my observations which makes me look like I have a soft spot for Trump and I have no apologies for that

Trump is one of the worst characters to ever step onto the political stage and it is right to point that out. He is a serial fraudster, a rapist, a racist, a con artist, a pathological liar, a criminal and a convict. This is aside from his promotion of hatred as a principle.

Look - I know you will be impossible to convince - I know your type on this matter - I have come across too many - even in real life - so no worries. I just ask you to tell me what you trhink "they are poisoning our blood" meant.

Kukutente23:
It is clear that Nigerians pay one of the highest amount of undocumented tax anywhere in the world.

From estate dues, building roads and gutters themselves to buying transformers and poles for electricity, to area boys and community dues. All these are outside the formal tax system

This black tax is very common and the surprising thing is that it has risen scandalously since this calamitous govt took over. Due to the peculiar social fabric of the African society, parents, siblings, friends, extended family members and even less privileged acquaintances generally seek support from those who they feel are better off.

I hope folks like nairalanda1 are not ignoring their black tax obligations while calling for more direct taxation for Nigerians without requisite social safety.

DeepSight

Have no doubt that those who support the satanic policies of this government without even pausing to reflect on the human dimension of the consequences - and particularly without ever wondering about excess government spending and unmitigated corruption - have no conscience and will not, will never, be decent enough to conduct themselves in the real world with any modicum of empathy or sincerity .

I once asked the person you referred to what he does for a living. Rather than answer, he asked what I do. I of course presumed that he would answer the question once I answered his query - so I told him I am a lawyer. After that, he fled, and refused to answer the question. If he knew he would not, why did he bother seizing the chance to ask what I do for a living? I could answer, but he could not - and the reason is obvious to me.

Take some of these people seriously at your own peril.

Kukutente23:
But it is true whether lame or not
Like I said, I still don't get where Trump being racist is coming from
Saying "they are poisoning our blood" can't cut it as a racist statement to me

I would be lying if I said I was shocked - even if I should be shocked. But I am not. The truth is as I earlier alluded: he can say the worst racist thing, and it would not cut it for you still. I know Trumpists are like that. Thats why he once said even if he shot someone in broad day light on fifth avenue, he would not lose any support. He was right, and he knew what he was saying: he knew the cult status of worship he has with his followers.

Let me ask you though, what you think he meant by that statement - "they are poisoning our blood." Can you interpret it for me please?

Kukutente23:
You mean Jehovah Witnesses are Nazis? Cause they don't believe in blood transfusion cause they believe it is "poisoning of blood"

This diversion which is not apples for apples is very lame, and honestly you are much better than this weak attempt.

Kukutente23:
Why do you say he's racist?

I am tempted to rattle off a long list of his racists deeds and pronouncements, but from experience, I know that even if I found a quote where he explicitly states that non whites are inferior creatures, no Trumpist will agree. They will re interpret it in astonishing ways.

So I will not do that. However i should caution you against anyone who uses rhetoric such as "they are poisoning our blood." That is a direct quote from Hitler and it is in itself the most primal and primitive form of racist hatred.

Kukutente23:
So what should we fry for this "shocking news"?
Scamala is losing and losing big
Even she knows it Ufo

Its just a few days to go, calm down.
As I said before, I would not have suspected someone as rational as you of supporting such a con artist.
But lets be patient.

I pray he doesnt win.
I despise racists with every fibre of my being.
Yeah yeah, I know you will claim he is not racist.

Which is in itself tiresome, but I have heard it all from MAGA people. Much worse denial than that.

Kukutente23:
What about BDCs?
At they also expected to bring all their dollars to the banks or they're exempted
Your actually making noise here
There's absolutely nothing you or govt can do about dollars outside the banking system
Just ask ganduje

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!!

This is revolting.

You are a terrible cook and should stay away from culinary matters.

Your sense of taste is decrepit.

N3TRAL:
He's most likely not 101 years old.

Not up to 10 people in Nigeria are over 100 years old if there's any.

You don't know anything. Go to the rurals areas. You will see elders.

EmperorCaesar:


Lesbians dey get one kine mumu confidence. Dem no dey fear to dey approach anybody.

How come that same confidence is lost in straight women. Those one would rather die than speak out their minds


I've read far and why. I dont think theres an evolutionary reason to support this, Psychological one, maybe.

With lesbians there are the "male" and "female" ones. Also known as the "Butch" and the "femme."
So the "Butch" is pretty much like a man, in fact their aggression is often more than that of a normal man.

Therefore such "Butch" babes will be very forward.

Quite often, the "Butch" will have a hormonal imbalance that predisposes her to such a nature - even revealed by facial hair, or a hairy chest etc.

So beyond the psychological, there is also the physiological.

nairalanda1:
The report says pre-tax losses, pre tax.

Haba Helinues....why the lies?

Doubtless you still believe that reducing the purchasing power of the population will help industries.

Kukutente23:
What a load of bull crap. Google is your evidence the Trump said Nigeria and African countries are shitholes?

It's not about what the house tried to do or not. We the hunter Biden laptop found to be true or not? Simple.

This your support for the racist rapist con artist, pathological liar, admirer of Hitler and his ilk - and convict - is well - dissappointing. What leads you thence - is it, like many who support this fraudster - your religion?

wirinet:
E be like say APC don't inflict poverty mentality on Nigerians, so much so most people don't even understand what standard living means anymore. A family of 4 adults living on N500k for 2 months cannot live comfortably and eat anything they like. With that family income you would probably be living in a room and parlour in poor suburban neighbourhood, eating poor quality food that lacks protein on a diet of 101, flying danfo for transportation to work or business (that's assuming no school fees is involved).
A single egg is now now 300, a loaf of sliced bread is N1500. So how much will breakfast of eggs and bread with tea cost for a family of 4 adults? What's about a meal of beans and dodo, mind you derica of beans is N2500. A small bunch of plantain is N1500. We have not even considered cost of other ingredients like oil, pepper, etc., and gas to cook the beans. Rice and meat/chicken nko? The cost is the same. The N250,000 per month would barely be enough to feed well alone, not to talk of other expenses. I am sure if you guys should contact malaria or typhoid, na agbo or prayers you go use take cure am, because hospital bill for ordinary malaria and typhoid pass N10k per person. Original augmentine capsules now don reach N15k. If dem admit any of una for hospital for one night, just hold 50k.
Live a comfortable life and eat whatever you like indeed.

He may be right in that "comfortable life" to him may mean the very fact that he has that one bedroom face me I slap you as opposed to living under the bridge. "Comfortable life" to him may be being able to afford one portion of rice at Iya Basira as opposed to nothing. "Comfortable life" to him may just be way, way, way, way, way beneath any reasonable standard that you and I may expect.

And make no mistake, such is reality.

Think of it this way. There are many people living a life with a salary below 100k a month right now. Many.

Just imagine what a sudden bumb to 250k would represent for those people. The truth is they will still be living a very impoverished life, but in their own minds, such would be a "comfortable life."

All na levels.

There is another point he is right on. Different lifestyles and levels of spending. Someone can earn N10 Million a month and consider himself broke. Certainly you will agree that if Dangote was earning that he will consider himself stark broke. For someone else, it would be paradise.

nairalanda1:
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The poor poor laddie.

Pathetic. Shameful. Repulsive. Disgusting. Cowardly.

Kukutente23:
See wahala
How can a company generate an increase in revenue of over 100% and still declare loss year- on- year?

This Tinubulation nor be here o

When you consider that Guinness is actually one of the most viable stocks outside of the banking sector, you begin to imagine the fate of other companies especially in manufacturing and FCMG with high recurring inputs.

The forex loss even increased by 129% from 2023 which means the currency devaluation is the main source of concern for the manufacturers.

The next biggest issue is cost of sales which is cost of manufacturing goods. This implies that companies are having high input cost year-on-year which can be directly attributed to the fuel subsidy removal and electricity tariff hikes.

The destruction is so self evident and one nairalanda1 has the nerve to say in the same sentence that he supports these policies and also wants us to industralize. How he and his ilk dont know that these policies are killing industry, is just benumbing.

Execute policies that render everyone poorer and everything more expensive and yet stand back and expect that there will be a robust market for finished products. With what buying power? The one you murdered?

And rather than tackle the point the clown will start making jokes.
Honestly.
Sickening.

Kukutente23:
Ok then. I accept if you say it was just a momentary thing but hope you can see how shallow these folks and their beliefs are. It can't stand up to the smallest scrutiny yet they have mouth to ridicule christianity

Let me even make you laugh - - -

https://www.nairaland.com/524918/muhammed-teachings-shaitan-satan-just#6871913

Read through and luagh your head off. . . .

Specifically, check out this about a few of Shaitan's funny habits, according to the Hadiths

https://www.nairaland.com/524918/muhammed-teachings-shaitan-satan-just#6872078

Kukutente23:
Ok then. I accept if you say it was just a momentary thing but hope you can see how shallow these folks and their beliefs are. It can't stand up to the smallest scrutiny yet they have mouth to ridicule christianity

Let me even make you laugh - - -

https://www.nairaland.com/524918/muhammed-teachings-shaitan-satan-just#6871913

Read through and luagh your head off. . . .

Kukutente23:
Lol. Bros you don run as you see Islamist now

Context indeed

Our acquaintance is recent. If you have a minute scroll through my profile. I have been an ardent anti-religionist on this platform since 2009. Thats 15 years. So you must have simply taken me out of context. Perhaps I said a few positive things about Islam - and sure I can - just as there are positive things to be said of all religions. This does not mean I for one second endorse any of these religions.

Kukutente23:
And who said he must?
He defended Islam and I'm showing him how brainwashed and deluded Muslims are

I no dey defend Islam ooooo. Whatver I said to you must have been in a context.
I despise all these Abrahamic religions for several reasons.

doffman:
While jumping to another question😀😀😀.

Let me rest your brain first before picking new topic .

Or you want me to start asking you question ? .

Oya picks one .

Anyone can say anything. Why should Muhammad's words constitute evidence of truth? Why trust the words of a paedophile, rapist, sex addict, mass murderer and caravan robber?

doffman:
Continue consoling yourself with your fellow ignorant 😀😀😀.

Is that your answer to my question??

I still have plenty question for you in particular .

How do you keep using Mohammad's words as "evidence?"

Kukutente23:
Sebi I used to tell you that Islam is a dogmatic religion and you used to defend them.

When did I defend Islam?
I dont subscribe to all these religions.

At best perhaps I have lauded their idea of one God over the paganistic Trinity doctrine.
Also of course I have also expressed my opposition to what Israel is doing in Palestine.

Thats all.

doffman:
I like the way you want to help your fellow ignorant .

Does Islam tell you that Jesus is coming as a prophet to teach oneness of God in his second coming ?

Islam has already told us his mission as a second coming not as a prophet to teach people about oneness of God ? And I have told him his mission he will come to do , don’t be lazy mr ignorant , read all my conversation with him from the beginning .


When Jesus first came to Israelite , he came as a prophet to preach the oneness of God . He will not do that again in his second coming because the total message has been passed by Muhammad through the Quran to the entire world.

You are the one that want to claim he is coming as a prophet 😀.

Answer that and let me measure your brain and thinking ?

Answer that and let me know how I will start with you because I deal with only intelligent people .

Well, Kukutente23 you kukuma predicted this.

doffman:
.

I can see you are totally confused 😀.

Enjoy this verse :

“Blessed be He Who sent down the criterion (of right and wrong, i.e. this Quran) to His slave (Muhammad) that he may be a warner to the ‘Aalameen (mankind and jinn)” [al-Furqaan 25:1]

I repeat, it is non of our business if you did not believe he is a prophet ; you are nothing as you are non believer like your fellow people .

You are just typing rubbish . I can see it is paining you that he is a last prophet .

Let it be paining you more as he is the last prophet ; let that sink into your head .

Yes , my religion being Islam is the perfect religion . A religion that gave me total way of life unlike your religion which is govern by pastors without ways of life .

A Christianity that was not even in existence when Jesus was alive 🥹😀

This is the most despicable and contemptible cowardice. The gentleman gave you strong logical points and you completely run from them. Let me repeat one for you: how is Muhammad the last prophet when Islam says that Isa, another prophet, is coming again?

Simple question, stop being a coward, give a direct answer.

Kukutente23:
I like how you put it that it's your perfect religion. It's your opinion. It's subjective and not based on any indisputable fact.

You're quoting quran as evidence that Muhammad is the last prophet when same Muhammad was the one who gave you the Qur'an. Does a man ever testify against himself? Muhammad listed over 20 prophets in his Qur'an. None of them ever prophesied about him nor claim he will come as the last prophet but he self-declares as the last prophet in his self-made book and you expect that to be taken as evidence. How does that make sense? How do you even know the phrase "seal of prophets" mean he's the last prophet? That's your subjective interpretation. Muhammad was tested so many times by Jews when he wanted them to accept him as prophet and he failed the tests. So his he even a prophet in the first place? His chronology of prophets in his quran is 90% from Jewish line and history. So how does he an Arab become last prophet out of a long line of Jewish prophets? He even mixed a lot of things up such as mistaking Mary mother of Jesus with Miriam sister of moses and Aaron. That's why you people call the mother of Jesus Maryam till this day when her name is Mary?

What I'm showing you from quran is a conflict. If Muhammad says he's the last prophet then still says Jesus who is accepted as a prophet is still coming back to carry out God's work, how is Muhammad the last prophet then? The logic is flawed. You can't answer till now if Jesus is coming back as a prophet or something else because even you are confused as to that situation.

There's nothing like last prophet. Prophet simply means messenger. To say there's a last prophet implies that God will stop speaking to people after the last one and just leave people to their devices. Why will God suddenly grow tired of speaking to people? So there are prophets till this day. The office of prophethood as far as Christianity is concerned will not and can never cease. God will continue to speak to people affirming his messages and will for mankind.

K.O.

One wonders why the words of an illiterate medieval plagiarist, paedophile, rapist, mass murderer and caravan robber should be evidence of the truth of anything.