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benalvino3:
A claim can be serious even without a lawsuit.

Just look at this. And yet the one with lawsuits and even civil and criminal judgments is meaningless to you.
What can I say. I mean, at a point your own double standards should be clear to you.

This is exactly like raumdeuter who claimed that he would vote even a rapist serial killer if his policies favor him so long as a court declares him innocent. He made out that he respects courts. Just not any court that rules against Trump.

tctrills:
Mr DeepSight
Back to the abortion issue.
Am I right to summarise your take like this,
It's up to the individual to decide when abortion becomes killing a human being.
It is only when the mother decides that it is a human being in her womb that it becomes a human being. Until she decides, it is whatever she says it is.

Why are you like this, why are you trying to mangle what I said

bemeruca:
He said "as crude"

Its not an Olympic. How do you know though? We all thought Ellen DeGeneres was a bastion of morality with decent behaviour in public but behind closed doors she was abusive and cruel.


Winston Churchill: Famous for crude wit. He reportedly made bawdy jokes, insulted colleagues harshly in private, and had a legendary drinking habit. His exchanges with Roosevelt and Stalin during WWII were strategic but often blunt and earthy.
Lyndon B. Johnson (US President): Extremely vulgar. He conducted "the Johnson Treatment" (intimidation up close), used constant profanity, told crude sexual stories, and once waved his penis at aides while urinating, saying things like "This is your president!" Tapes and biographies (e.g., Robert Caro) confirm the raw language.
Richard Nixon: White House tapes reveal heavy swearing, anti-Semitic rants, and crude political scheming. He called people "c***suckers" and worse routinely.
Bill Clinton: Private accounts (including from aides and Lewinsky) describe crude sexual humor and language.
George W. Bush: Private moments included blunt, sometimes profane assessments (e.g., "Yo, Blair" to Tony Blair on a hot mic).
Barack Obama: Leaks and books show sharp, sometimes cutting private talk about opponents, with occasional swearing

All this is normal behind the camera and in private.

BreakingNews21:
For extra credit course reading. A few of the links are in PDF form. The irony!

Case: United States v. Fred C. Trump, Donald Trump, and Trump Management, Inc.
1:73-01529 | U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of New York
Filed Date: Oct. 15, 1973

Closed Date: June 10, 1977 - https://clearinghouse.net/case/15342/

'No vacancies for blacks - https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/house/117470/documents/HHRG-118-GO00-20240627-SD010.pdf


FBI releases files on Trump apartments' race discrimination probe in '70s - https://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2017/02/trump-fbi-files-discrimination-case-235067

Black Applicants Rejected for Trump Housing Speak Out - https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/house/117470/documents/HHRG-118-GO00-20240627-SD009.pdf

Tctrills, bemeruca, raumdeuter

IjeBos:
I draw a line when people try to rewrite US racist history.
I think your desire to be impartial by force is blinding you to what happened.

There were two sides that day. The protestors and the counter protestors
I asked AI who were both on both sides.
Here are the sides via Google AI the Protestors and Counter Protestors.
Tell me who the very fine people were in the Protestors
Outside of the White Nationalists and Neo Confederates you say the media didn't give Trump credit for mentioning, was it the Alt Right Leaders or the Armed Militias? They all have White Nationalist and Neo Confederate underpinnings.

Let me repeat yet again that I don't agree with Trumps comments and I agree with you.

I am not trying to be "impartial by force" I am not even impartial. I am deeply against Trump. He is the most despicable creature to venture into the public space in forever.

Kukutente23:
Go read up on Apara's confession
Alpha beta is an instrument used to siphon Lagos funds
He mentioned Tinubu's percentage in the tax collected

We are saying the same thing then. I am saying that ABC is a tool of Tinubu.

bemeruca:
You still haven't told him he lied about Charlotteville, you are still in concur with him 😂

Why?

You knew what ijebos said was total crap but you still concurred 😂

I'd like to know why - I am going to be very polite and say please as I ask. PLEASE TELL ME

Why are you asking. You saw the whole conversation and everything I said. My take is on the table. And yes he was still right. There wasn't a contradiction really. Because I never said I agree with what Trump said. I said the media wrongly clipped his comments

bemeruca:
He is not. Globally he is liked more than people like Kier Starmer, Macron etc. You guys are just making Loud noises and throwing tantrums when people don't subscribe to the hate mob mentality.

To you, trashing rules means applying the rules. Eg, close border, ice, etc.

Or, you punch him and accuse him of lies and he fights back. Trump is unique, he is himself. Most of the things people think about him are instilled in them because many of those things are things other leaders claim to do, but he is the one with the guts and the one who keeps his words more than they do to accomplish those things.

No world leader has ever been as crude. The fact that you can't admit that is just well... Normal.

How many leaders use expletives to the camera? And that's just one minor thing. But never mind.

IjeBos:
Why are you still arguing with him?
All his arguments are based on White Christian ideology.
I used to listen to talk radio a bit on my drive to work, had to stop because how hateful is was and how illogical the arguments always were. But I recognize everything he says. It's just rehashed and dressed up with different lingo.
The arguments aren't meant to be logical or appeal to intelligent people looking for intelligent arguments. They are meant to appeal to emotional people.
So, I think any black person who goes to White Christian/Nationalist sites to get information has a psychological issue most emanating from self hate/insecurity.

You sound like a smart person, there is not any amount of reasoning that will change them.

Pardon me jaare, correct man. Its just that I find it hard to get over some of their utterances.

tctrills:
So, the rule is that I need to criticise him first then I will be permitted to join the discussion. I dont agree with that line of thought.

Online, I am here to express conservative principles not to be all over the place.

We all have our online priorities. Just like the war in Sudan is not your business, you rather talk about Israel even though you are African

If you know in your heart that you cannot ever criticize Trump, then know in your heart that unknown to you, you worship him.

tctrills:
It's also funny how you want Trump Catholic followers to begin hating him just because he has problems with the Pope. Why should that be the case.

I was checking to see if they would be able to draw a line there. But not for many. Many dont realize it but Trump is equal to God for them. This is true for many Christians.

bemeruca:
Deepsight

I don't like Obama, but you don't see me crying all day about Obama. Almost everything on this thread related to Trump isn't coming from us; it's coming from you obsessed mobs.

That's cult-like behavior. I don't like Hasan Piker, I dislike many people on the left, but I don't post about them almost always. Hasan Piker is calling for the deaths of Republicans, saying a lot of things, and you haven't posted a single thing about him or critic him. Your focus is to lie about Kirk, who got shot because of the kind of lies you spread, while Hasan Piker encourages people to kill Republicans based on those lies.

Trump is a unique category of his own as a leader and you know it. There has never been a president like him. No one has trashed all rules of civilized society so absolutely. He has actually succeeded in creating a world of his own because he has pushed the limits to the extent that people let him get away with anything and everything saying "Thats just Trump."

No one has even been as vulgar, as crude.

tctrills:
If people ask me to critize any one, I definitely wouldn't. Why would I criticize someone just to please you? That's not right. And you making a big deal out of our not criticizing Trump is a non-issue to me.
For example, I love Peter Obi, and I don't criticize him online, should that disqualify me from criticizing Tinubu and his failed government? I dont think so

The problem is that if you can't see anything wrong he ever does it's good grounds to disqualify you as an objective discussant

tctrills:
It is funny that you leftists demand that we criticize Trump, but we have never asked you guys to accuse or criticize Obama, Biden, or even Kamala. Why do you guys require that we criticize Trump? I dont get it

Because most of you are blind cult followers who worship him as God. Asking for a criticism is a test to see if you can ever disagree with your God. 99% of you fail.

And people even here have asked for me to criticize Obama and co and I have - heavy criticisms for that matter, not light irrelevant ones like some of you try to sneakily do with Trump as proof of being objective.

Emzymagadon:
Which name una don see wey shock una pass for real life? 😂
Drop am make we laugh small 😭

Appeal-Court

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tctrills:
Not really, I told you we agree 95% of the time. The 5% are very minor. It makes no sense to discuss the 5% when there is so much going on.
You are very rude, but I dont really care. Come to think about it, I dont like the way Tinubu speaks, but I have never criticised him for that because it is inconsequential. There are bigger things to be worried about. I never criticized Biden for talking like a fool

How dare you accuse me of being rude, what effrontery, speaking to your humble, calm, gentle, amiable, friendly, peace loving senior in such a brat like manner? Kneel down at once.

tctrills:
Why should I criticise Trump? Our political views allign 95% of the time, as for the 5% diffrence, it doesn't deserve public criticism.

Not having a single criticism is evidence of blind and cult followership. There is no leader of whom a rational person can have no criticism, speak less of a loquacious, rude and divisive leader.

tctrills:
Why should I criticise Trump? Our political views allign 95% of the time, as for the 5% diffrence, it doesn't deserve public criticism.

You are Catholic then and you have reduced the pope to a political leader for the sake of Trump.
You should be excommunicated.

TV01:
...because, and to be honest, behind the bogus scholarly facade you like to present, you are a bit of a tit really. Just saying. I can't shake the feeling you are either never married or divorced .


TV

Jesus Christ. Do you have a crystal ball or something.

tctrills:
How is that important?

I am trying to see, since you have never criticised Trump, if his utterances against the Pope would be enough to evoke a criticism - if you are Catholic.

WizardOfNG:
Lol. Like Gbajabiamila said "enter dem, scatter dem and finish dem".

ADC is the main challenge to PBAT and APC. Yet they are done already before election day because the Party is nothing but a congregation of desperate political oloshos.

2027 is the year the lord has set for the emancipation of Nigeria 😎

Bagudu. We are waiting.

raumdeuter:
Actually at the time Trump asked for the death penalty, the police claimed they got a confession from the guys admitting to the murder which later proved to be coerced

If today you hear that a group of say Hispanic guy killed a girl and they "confessed " to the crime then you ask for the death penalty. Are you racist

Stop being selective. Trump maintained his stand even after the truth came out.

Moreover calling for the death penalty for minors?

GracieX3:
Wow. Are you seeing how much you defend racism, especially from Trump?

Trump spent money on newspaper ads claiming the guilt on a group of innocent coloured men. You do not see that as racist.

And you are now comparing it to Kyle Rittenhouse. Kyle Rittenhouse killed two people and injured a third. Opinion was divided whether it was murder or self defence. Keep in mind that it could go both ways because he was defending himself but he carried a gun to an already charged protest. Both sides had their points, so no racism either way.


O.J. Simpson got away with murder. Some blacks cheered because the police department was racist. Had they not been racist, Simpson would have been indicted. The whites who wanted him jailed were in their right.


Two different scenarios to the Trump's action on the central park five is racist because he had no proof but believed that they were guilty. There was no real evidence tying them to the crime.

Well said. Trump judged those kids by their color. And what tctrill's misses is how reminiscent what he was doing was of the culture of lynching.
He was calling for a lynching of innocent colored kids, simple.

raumdeuter:
Bringing a weapon is not a crime. Until he was attacked by 3 white guys and he defended himself

Anyway I was giving context, I have not given a view.

raumdeuter:
You asked for specifics on what he did for non celebrities.

No I did not.
Why are you not on your knees? Raise up your hands and close your eyes.
In fact, kneel on uncooked rice.

raumdeuter:
This post reeks of ignorance and very uneducated

How is Trump proven to have engaged in those acts?

Will you shattap and kneel down at once? How dare you speak to a gentle, kind, gracious, humble, polite and unobtrusive personage such as myself in such a manner.

raumdeuter:
Actually accused Kyle Rittenhouse of being a racist white supremacist for shooting 3 white guys

Not even you are stupid enough to fail to note that he was bringing a weapon to a race based riot inspired by a shooting of a black man.

raumdeuter:
The thousands of blacks that he granted pardon under the first step acts are not celebrities

Or the biggest funding he gave HBCUs they are not celebrities

Its jolly easy to cherry pick a couple of things you think he has done seemingly well by blacks ignoring his massive and long and well documented history of racism.

Zone outwards and take a birds eye view and see clearly, Uncle RR.

tctrills:
Your difference makes no difference. You really have not explained why one should be seen as racism and the other is not. Yes, no two cases are exactly the same, but we must judge with a standard. It seems you have 2 standards, one for Trump and one for your leftist brethren.

Are you Catholic

tctrills:
Oga, I think you are racist by your standard.

Let's use your favorite Gemini.
Here is the prompt: Have the Epstein files implicated Trump in sexual child abuse so far?

As of May 2026, the various releases of the "Epstein Files" (including documents unsealed by the courts in 2024 and those released by the Department of Justice under the Epstein Files Transparency Act in late 2025 and early 2026) have not provided direct, corroborated evidence or legal proof that Donald Trump engaged in sexual activity with minors.

While the files contain mentions of Trump, the information regarding sexual activity specifically with minors consists of allegations rather than proven facts. Here is the direct breakdown of what the files contain regarding these claims:

1. Unsubstantiated Allegations
The 2026 DOJ release included FBI memos (specifically Form 302s) memorializing interviews from 2019 with an unidentified woman.

The Claim: The woman alleged that in the early 1980s (when she was approximately 13 years old), Jeffrey Epstein flew her to a building in New York or New Jersey where Donald Trump allegedly attempted to sexually assault her.

The Status: The FBI characterized these claims as "unverified" and "unsubstantiated." The Justice Department noted that some files contained "sensationalist" claims, and Trump’s legal team has dismissed the allegations as "completely baseless."[b][/b]

From what you have read above, are you racist? It says the files have not provided direct, corroborated evidence or legal proof that Donald Trump engaged in sexual activity with minors.
Are you a racist?

Wrong prompt. I said from what is in the public space. Not just what is in the Epstein files.

Almost half of those files are still hidden / redacted at least much of the key evidence. And that is illegal. And also what is in the public space makes it obvious why.

tctrills:
To your last paragraph, give me your reason first because O don't see reason for the question.

If you are, I want to hear your view on Trumps attacks on the Pope.

To your first paragraph, you claim accusing a young man of murder stops being racism if the actions of the innocent man is perceived by his accusers to be racist.

Oga even you must accept that this racism thing is making no sense.

By your logic, if I wrongfully accuse you of being racist as was the case of Kyle, I am not racist but in Trump's case, he is racist.

Can I beg you for a mighty favour. Please explain this to me like I am 10 years old. This one over me, I confess.

Make it simple, show how leftist are not racist in accusing Kyle but Trump is a racist.

Note, Kyle did not even shoot a black man

I was only providing context to show you its quite different from the case of the kids. I did not say my view.

tctrills:
Please what do the Epstein files prove against Trump?

Answer the above because that's the easiest to fact check.

Anyone accusing Trump of molesting minors, should we call such a person a racist?

How about a white man who still believes OJ Simpson is guilty of killing is wife even after the jury found him innocent, is he a racist?

From what is in the public space already, every unbiased person knows Trump has engaged in those degenerate acts.
My problem with you is this knee jerk defense of all things white supremacist, Trumpian and Jewish supremacist.
Just be balanced. I dont think I have heard you criticize a single thing Trump has ever done.

Are you catholic?