GracieX3: How legal was abortion in the 60s and did the same black people have access to it. Abortion was not legal and so the numbers for it would be down.
This is the same racist argument that glorifies a time when black people didn't have rights and were oppressed.
I have never been so overwhelmed by a person's shallowness and stupidity as I was by that fella in the last two days.
IjeBos: He said segregation ended in 1964. And all the racists just changed their minds, held hands and sang kumbaya. Stop posting and go read something. Try a book on black American history.
You know, the fella was talking about Jews picking themselves up as opposed to blacks. You pointed out how Jews are about the most protected people. I should add that they also have received massive reparations. But if you dare mention the word reparations in the context of black people, rest assured that same fella who is himself black will want to eat you alive. But he has no problems with the reparations for Jews.
tctrills: A sperm is not a human and yes we can very scientifically calculate how far back we can go. Each human being has a specific DNA. So it is only right to say that when a new DNA different from that of the parents is formed a human is created. In what argument will a sperm qualify as a human being? A sperm cell is just one specialized cell from a male body. It has half the DNA and cannot grow into a human on its own. It only has one job: deliver genetic material. A fetus (starting from a fertilized egg) is different. At fertilization, a new cell forms with a complete human DNA set. This new organism begins self-directed development (it grows, divides, and organizes itself). Sperm = part of a body (a cell) Fetus = a developing human organism
Do you get it now?
Its just a warning about how far back you can go. I may not do so, but someone can come and tell you that each sperm is a potential person in development.
Personally, I cannot see a mere fertilized egg as a person on day 1 or even within a few weeks.
tctrills: Sorry, actually, there is. The woman killed, she is a murderer
Opinions are free. People have different views of it. But murder is legally defined, so you will have to tie it to the definition of murder under the law. And abortion does not meet that definition.
You will have to also ask how far you want to push back the murder definition. Because if you insist on it, then we can also say that each time a man ejaculates outside a woman, he has committed murder. This line of thinking can easily be stretched to the absurd. It can mean that condoms are weapons of murder. It can mean that morning after pills are weapons of murder. It can convert many forms of contraception to murder.
GloriousGbola: the big irony is that 90% of gangsta rap is demonstrably theater
rappers started out as being socially conscious but after the success of NWA, record executives started pushing gangsta rap as the dominant genre
the biggest irony is that the truly hardcore gangsta among all of them was a person everyone mocked for being a dancer - MC hammer
dr dre and the rest of them - its all posturing and kayfaybe - ice cube one of the fathers of gangsta rap read architectural drafting in uni. today the guy is in family movies. mobb deep dey sing only the strong survive when one of them had sickle cell
easy e said it best - they are studio gangstas
a guy who is writing rhymes in a notebook is not a gangster - that's a nerd
everyone dey form hard man but women dey fold all of them. the whole gangsta rap genre was deconstructed in the comedy movies in CB4 and fear of a black hat
but some dull conservatives without any grain of actual gray matter just talk like the ignorant clowns they are
pretty white for a black guy
Bless you. So very rich and expansive. This -
multiple genres of music, and multiple genres of rap - but some clowns jump on gangsta rap as if it is the sole music that blacks listen to
- mirrors my thoughts exactly! For the group who gave the world Jazz and much R & B and Soul music, it s pitiful for people to look at a sub set of entertainment projection and define the entirety of African American culture with it.
But with the way the so called conservatives on this thread have gone about things, I have no doubt that beyond culture they would even say that no African American has ever contributed anything to the development and progress of the United States. That is how far gone they are in their self hatred and their acceptance of a narrative that seeks to demean their race.
tctrills: What is culture in the first place? We can oversimplify it by saying it is a set of acceptable behaviours among a society.
I once had a comedian tell a joke (he was black so don't call him racist). He said if the police is chasing a guy and he makes the mistake of running into a white neighborhood, everyone would assist the police in catching him. But if he is lucky to run into a black hood, everyone assists him in getting away from the police.
That's culture. One culture accepts crime the other accepts law enforcement.
If black women are performing more than a third of all abortions that's culture and we should examine it from that lens
Ah. Men. The shallowness of thought here! Let me leave it.
GloriousGbola: i have blocked him and imho you should too.
there is nothing to be gained from engaging him. i cannot be sure if he is a troll or a completely brainless dolt whose mind has been fried by alt right websites
the only purpose people like him serve is a hard reminder to curate your children's internet use before they get sucked into a rabbit hole
you are wasting your time and burning out your brain cells engaging him and his bizarre bad faith recycled stormfront bs
tctrills: Oga I use data and stats and you are allowed to fact check me But let me give it to you that 1% of all abortions are because the mom can't take care of the child, that still tends to zero.
So instead of arguing about that one percent, let's talk about the 99%. There is so much more value in that than the elusive 1%
I said rest, you will not rest. Okay.
Listen. You just speak so broadly and generally as though the humans you are discussing are robots. When we say economic reasons for example you assume it must be resolved by the existence of willing adopters. In this you presume that everyone is either desirous of, or in a position to afford being pregnant for nine months. Not everyone is either. This simple pointer is enough to knock off your generalisation. And I don't want to enter a discussion in which I will be forced to explain the obvious like this to anyone.
Overall, abortion as we all know is a controversial matter. But starting from the economy, we are talking about the entire social situation of the mothers in the first place. Their education, their living circumstances, their access to quality health care, their social security, their access to a career and the truth remains that the black community falls within that poorer demographic where a more substantial amount of people are vulnerable in all these things and all of these things affect the amount of people who will find themselves in this kind of scenario.
It's almost similar to the question about performance at schools. Some ignorant shallow people simply say, oh, white kids perform better because they are smarter. The truth is that a kid from a comfortable home, a secure home, who is not hungry and who has all the learning tools he needs is by orders of magnitude better placed to perform better than a hungry kid from a scattered and deprived home. It's not a question of inherent smarts.
The point is that there is such a huge socio economic backstory to all of these things that it is shallow to simply say, oh, the white kid is smarter, just as it is shallow to simply say, oh, there are available adopters. It didn't even occur to you that there will be some people who simply don't want to give out their children to strangers.
All of this is beside the fact that there are still many other reasons for adoption, choice being one. Health being another. The circumstances being a third (age, rape, marriage, all sorts).
And again beyond all of this there isn't agreement on the nature of abortion. Some people like you see it as murder. Others don't agree that a foetus is a human being. I for one am okay with abortion in the early weeks but get queasy about it when the foetus begins to take on real form. It varies and is a sensitive matter of perspective and faith for many. It is also a matter of freedom and simple liberty of choice, control over ones own body and future for many.
Look, you have forced me to write. I don't wish to discuss these things because the angle you are coming from is too rigid and shallow and you don't give it depth of thought. Look at the economic scenarios for example. You will probably just say it's excuses and victim mentality and leave it at that without trying to make any synapses connect in ya head.
tctrills: 1 to 2 million couples are waiting to adopt In some estimates, that’s: 30+ waiting families for every 1 infant placed for adoption.
No woman in the US kills her unborn because she is too broke to take care of it.
Have you ever been to an abortion centre in the US?
There are always anti abortionist outside begging the mother, promising to take care of the pregnancy and the baby if the mom decides to keep it.
So please next excuse
This kind of absolute generalization that does not permit of the existence of even a single such case is enough to die the matter. There is no point reasoning with anyone who says this.
tctrills: No child is aborted because her mom was afraid she couldn't provide for it.
You always make such sweeping statements. Its anti-intellectual. Basic common sense should caution you against generalizations. And lest you get carried away, no, economics is not all there is to it. I only mentioned it as one factor.
tctrills: If 14% of the population (blacks) murder 30% of all unborn babies in US, it is clearly a cultural issue. And it was not happening before they got equal rights so what changed?
Abortion is not necessarily murder. And many of the same situational economic issues which are relevant from the issue of absentee fathers are relevant to this subject. This is actually a subject I would have loved to engage but the intellectual capacity / weight is simply not there to engage with.
bemeruca: Yesterday, in Port Harcourt, I saw someone who looks like you 😂
Fake and gay
Has it ever occurred to you that people see more of who you are here than everyday people in your real life may see. Because here, there is no physical appearance or setting or social placement to coat who you are. Its your mind on display. Think on that.
Because I swear, if you had a clue how you come across.
tctrills: Every 2 days, black American mothers commit an entire October 7th genocide on their babies. Everyone is accusing Israel or Hama's depending on who you support of genocide. But who cares about this culture of killing babies and how it has become a black culture in the US.
IjeBos: He said segregation ended in 1964. And all the racists just changed their minds, held hands and sang kumbaya. Stop posting and go read something. Try a book on black American history.
So Bemeruca is supposedly a devout Christian yet has 2 baby mommas Is supposedly a US immigrant asylum seeker or work visa holder(depending on the day) but supports all of Trump's hardline Immigration policies Is supposedly a believer in family values yet has 5 children he doesn't live with nor have custody of Is supposedly homo phobic but repeatedly posts videos of half naked gay men which he says he enjoys. And supposedly lives in the US, but every picture he has posted is not of the US.
basilico: Neither do I , but I've read about her getting more fouled because of her colour. It's framed like blacks are jealous of her stealing the thunder. Some go ahead accusing black people of being backward. You might want to tell those WNBA stars play with class.
TV01: Oga, your pathologies are writ clear. On full view here. Inter-alia, faux outrage over differences. Petulant tantrums when you don't get your way. Wishing death or non-existence on strangers due to mere political disagreement. And your self-regard is off the charts .
Heaven-high hyperbolic statements of disbelief. Poly-monikering and a obsessive insistence on being right - always having to have the last word. You fawn like a political hack and at once hate like a paid propagandist.
Speak true, do you have healthy happy relationships outside of here? Those who report to you or rely on your benevolence must walk around on eggshells.
Please, anything we can do to help?
TV
Not worth anything. Waste of time and space. Not deserving of existence.
tctrills: As of 2025–2026, data from the Census Bureau and the Migration Policy Institute shows that Nigerian Americans significantly outperform the national average in higher education and are more likely to hold high-skill management and professional roles.
Nigerian Americans hold one of the highest rates of advanced degrees in the country.
The US is the best place to be a black man. But when blacks get entitled the miss all the opportunities the country provides.
Stop blaming a system that works perfectly well when we take advantage of it.
Teach your black Americans to take advantage of the system.
I have heard. Good luck and thank you. Please spare me the notice of y o u r putrid self in future.
tctrills: You don't have to discuss with me. But then again, you don't need to lie against the dead to prove your point.
Let me advise you. You need to remove the hatred in your heart. The white man is not your enemy. You also need to take responsibility of your life and destiny and stop the blame game. The Jews did not get to where they are by crying and blaming. The Koreans are another great example. Every race, every people have their peculiar challenges but the solution has never been to blame others.
Black America has received more than 6 trillion dollars in entitlement benefits.
America shed blood to end black slavery. The US has given them enough to make them great.
tctrills: This boy. You could hate the whites for all you want but the truth remains. The leading cause of death of young black men in the US is gun shot from another black man. That is the culture of wild beasts.
When we ask blacks begin to tell ourselves the truth that's when we will begin to make changes.
Let's look at abortions. A black baby is 4 times more likely to be killed by his own mother in the womb than a white child.
This is the culture of murder. It's an evil culture. And it can't be blamed on the whites. Blacks did this to themselves
tctrills: How about a segregated person. During segregation, 75% of black fathers remained at home. Again your answer above seems to suggest that slavery was responsible for strong black families. That makes no sense. If slavery was responsible for strong black families, then why are you blaming the whites? Or are you blaming them for putting an end to slavery?
There is no basis to continue any discussion or interaction with you.
tctrills: I don't even understand your point. So I am shameful because I refuse to blame others for my problems but seek to solve my problems myself. Tell that to your kids. Teach your kids that whites are the cause of all their problems. I teach my kids to take personal responsibility and to love all men no matter their skin colour and treat everyone as equal and expect equal treatment. I understand you see this way of thinking as slave mentality. But in reality, it's how free men think
You don't know what you are saying when you talk about the worst of white culture. You have exhausted me with the unbelievable. I am tired. I just wanted to open this thread for posterity. Good luck.
TV01: Oga, your pathologies are writ clear. On full view here. Inter-alia, faux outrage over differences. Petulant tantrums when you don't get your way. Wishing death or non-existence on strangers due to mere political disagreement. And your self-regard is off the charts .
Heaven-high hyperbolic statements of disbelief. Poly-monikering and a obsessive insistence on being right - always having to have the last word. You fawn like a political hack and at once hate like a paid propagandist.
Speak true, do you have healthy happy relationships outside of here? Those who report to you or rely on your benevolence must walk around on eggshells.