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blackbeau1:
ahn more childish insults .
So Christianity is about ritual human sacrifice
You wrote @ above as though human sacrifice occurs everyday in Christianity . Anyway , I really shouldn't be arguing with someone who instead of logical arguments , zigzags and uses petty insults as arguments.
Just so u know,next time you wanna argue ,could you at least research it so you can have points instead of using insults. It doesn't speak well of you .
That's my last take on this matter. Pls don't mention me again .

Sharrap there, its obvious you cant face up to the silly paganistic basis of your religion: alleged ritual human sacrifice. Simple. Now run along, little girl.

blackbeau1:
it's only people who don't know what to say that resort to insults . So pls dear professor who else sacrificed his life in Christianity ? Infact who else was sacrificed ?

You must be drunk. What do you mean "who else?"

Why are you trying to divert attention to anybody else.

The core doctrine of Christianity is based on the ritual human sacrifice of Jesus of Nazareth, no?
So what are you on about?

Please go and wear your nappies and get out of my sight.

malvisguy212:
this is one thing you guys don't understand, Christianity is not base in human sacrifice,it is base on what christ did for sinful men .

what is the wages of sin? death, who is guilty of sin? me,how can I be saved? a blameless Lamb who know no sin must paid for my sin (death) Jesus is the sinner substitute, he died my death.

What compulsive nonsense is this?

Was Jesus human? Yes. Was he sacrificed? Yes - as per per your doctrine.
So how is this not human sacrifice?

blackbeau1:
unfortunately, even if I typed a long post and started explaining from today till next week, you'd never agree that you are wrong. Has anyone been sacrificed in Christianity or u just felt like quoting me ?

What is so sad is that you are not just dafft, but you are also a compulsive and pathological liar. So according to you as per the bold, there is no doctrine of sacrificial death in Christianity? What a twerp.

Rotji:
Well be informed that the crucifixion of Christ was part of the plan that brought him to earth in the first place, he would have scuttle that plan if he'd saved himself. And we wouldn't be here afterwards.

Why wouldnt we be here if one man was not executed by the Romans?

You say that that execution conquered sin, ko? Why is the world exactly the same - or even worse - after the so called ritual human sacrifice.

RockyEyo:
You will never understand what the devil is using ur brain to achieve

Just as you will never understand what your ignorance of history and slavish acceptance of myths and legends given to you by colonialists has done to your brain. Babanla Olodo.

kendylet:
he meant the god should have done something to show he is a real god, but it didnt do anything when the poor child broke the hand which basically mean he is a DEAD god not worthy to be worshipped! #MyOpinionTho...

Stop being silly. What is the meaning of "Eli Eli Eli La ma sabatchani. . .?"

blackbeau1:
Jesus willing sacrificed himself on the cross.

So Christianity is about ritual human sacrifice?

FA13:
And is still alive today.

In the sense that all human spirits are alive in some realm or the other, yes.

Certainly in no special sense other than what applies to any other human being.

Or can you show why his case is different?

FA13:
Jesus is not like the lifeless god the grandchild broke its arm.
He willingly surrendered himself and rose up when he felt like.

Get the difference and be converted.

Jesus of Nazareth was a Jewish man who lived about 2000 years ago.
Period.

RockyEyo:
Just so that e be like say u talk ba.... anu ofia
When the devil has tied your mind with a twine you cant but behave like a swine.

Will you sharrap you dunderhead!

ollah1:
My comment must have hit you to the bones

Don't mind him, he is clearly a spoon fed religitard.

Sanchez01:
The answers you seek are well captured on Google.

Lazy buffoon! Gerrout!

Sanchez01:
The crucifixion of Christ was sacrificial, not because he could not save himself, but because it was necessary for the redemption of mankind.

Are you saying Christianity is based on ritual human sacrifice?

4.516: Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "If anyone of you rouses from sleep and performs the ablution, he should wash his nose by putting water in it and then blowing it out thrice, because Satan has stayed in the upper part of his nose all the night."

What? What is Shaitan doing in the top inner parts of peoples noses at night?

BUKHARI

8.242: Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "Allah likes sneezing and dislikes yawning, so if someone sneezes and then praises Allah, then it is obligatory on every Muslim who heard him, to say: May Allah be merciful to you (Yar-hamuka-l-lah). But as regards yawning, it is from Satan, so one must try one's best to stop it, if one says 'Ha' when yawning, Satan will laugh at him."

What? Allah likes Sneezing and dislikes Yawning?

Yawning is from Shaitan? ? ?

4.509: Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "Yawning is from Satan and if anyone of you yawns, he should check his yawning as much as possible, for if anyone of you (during the act of yawning) should say: 'Ha', Satan will laugh at him."

What? Shaitan is moved to mirth when people yawn?

And from the Hadith of Sahih Muslim Book 41, Number 7131: [5]

Narrated Abu Sa'id al-Khudri:

Allah's Apostle said: When one of you yawns, he should try to restrain it with the help of his hand since it is the Satan that enters therein.

What? Shaitan enters people when they yawn without covering their mouths?

FROM THE HADITH OF SAHIH MUSLIM, vol. 1,

1.582: Abu Huraira narrated - Abu Huraira was one of the writers of the Quran who gave his own account about Muhammed, just like Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were to the gospels)

Allah's Apostle said, "When the Adhan is pronounced Satan takes to his heels and passes wind (farts) with noise during his flight in order not to hear the Adhan. When the Adhan is completed he comes back and again takes to his heels when the Iqama is pronounced and after its completion he returns again till he whispers into the heart of the person (to divert his attention from his prayer) and makes him remember things which he does not recall to his mind before the prayer and that causes him to forget how much he has prayed."

What? Shaitan farts loudly in order not the hear the Adnan?

mujahid777:
You're merely saying the same thing.Explain why you find it funny?

Is the assumption of the presence of angels when cocks crow and the assumption of the presence of Satan when Donkeys bray not funny enough?

Or do you need me to assist the OP with more hilarious Islamic suppositions?

Ok, wait. . . . I am coming.

OtemSapien:
I was about 30 years old when it happened. It was in the sleep state. I still have encounter with Atum and others and it happen in the lucid dream states which is a sleep state. I have Out of Body Experiences anytime I wanted to and I enjoy flying around the world in those OBEs.

Thank you. May I ask how you are certain these things are not only the product of your imagination. Have you seen any concrete real life manifestations which could positively convince you that these alleged revelations have a real life impact and as such are not only within your mind alone.

Further more (and I mean no ill by this question I mean it objectively as it is a question I put to myself also when I have other worldly experiences) have you considered if the source of your revelations is rather a psychiatric problem or psychological imbalance.

Finally have you considered if you are not only driven by anti establishment sentiments, as I often am myself.

OtemSapien:
There was a day when I had an encounter with a god named Atum in another realm, who actually introduced himself to me as Eartum. He told me my mission on earth, touched my head and told me that the history of the whole world is now installed in my brain. At first, all I saw were symbols which I wrote down, but by meditating on each symbol, I began to know their transcription. Sometimes I see myself in the places where the things were happening and Atum told me that it is called TIMELESSNESS, where things of the present, past and future happen like at the same time.

How old were you when this happened to you and was it in sleep or waking hours.

Further do you still have encounters with such beings and do they happen in sleep or waking hours.

Have you ever had an out of body experience.

OtemSapien:
I meditate on them and I get their interpretations deep into my meditations.

Sorry what I meant to ask is where you got the page of symbols from in the first place.

OtemSapien:
Everything has been revealed to me, but many parts are in unknown languages which I have to write down first and go on meditating on them before getting their interpretations deep into meditation. From the screenshot below, every single symbol is a book in the DOCTUFOS of truth and until I meditate on each of them before I can see the interpretation.

And if you don't mind saying, where did you get this transcription of symbols from.

OtemSapien:
Op is probably joking, but Stevin didn't pray for anybody. Stevin left Kristianity but Petra made up the story of the death of Stevin. Stevin was not stoned to death. The Doctufos has a proof.

Do you have a complete copy of this alleged Doctufos or do you just make up random parts as you go along

actiondrilling:
Journalist in Kogi State were jolted over the death of one of their own, Mr. Abdullahi Ibrahim, a reporter with the African Independent Television, (AIT).
Ibrahim died alongside his family members in a ghastly motor accident when he travelled to his hometown, Okaba, in Ankpa Local Council of Kogi State on Thursday.



He was preparing for the upcoming wedding of his daughter in December. The accident occurred between Ojodu and Ochadamu, along Ajaokuta- Ayingba high way.The reporter was driving his Peugeot 504 Saloon Car in company of his three children and his pregnant wife when the accident occurred.

According to an eyewitness, Ibrahim had a head-on collision with a Toyota hiace bus belonging to a popular transport company. “He was trying to overtake him on top speed while also negotiating a bend,” the witness said.He died on the spot with his three children and pregnant wife.


Ibrahim, who was in his late 50’s, had gone to the Nigeria Union of Journalist (NUJ) press centre in Lokoja to chat with his colleagues before he embarked on the journey.He had earlier narrated how a motorist brushed his car that Thursday morning after which he went to fix the car at a mechanic workshop before he embarked on the fatal journey.
His wife and children were seen at the press centre, where he bought snacks and drinks for them before going for the repairs of the car in preparation for the journey.He was even said to have distributed his daughter’s wedding cards to colleagues and friends on that fateful day.

Ibrahim, described as a crack reporter, had worked with several newspapers including the Sentinel, National Mirror, Royal Time. He was the publisher of The Trumpet before joining the AIT.

He was said to have lost his first wife and daughter about five years ago in mysterious circumstances.Reacting to the demise of the journalist, the Chairman of Correspondent Chapel of the Nigeria Union of Journalists, Friday Idachaba, expressed shock over the sudden death of the journalist and his family members, describing him as: “A very brilliant and hardworking journalist, who has carved a niche for himself “.He condoled with his family members and prayed for the fortitude to bear the irreparable loss.

http://www.akelicious.com/2017/11/breakingait-journalist-wife-and-three.html

Eledumaare strikes again.

Ezigbonmadu:
Is that English? It's time we begin to write in mother tongue, English is dead and buried among mostly semi-literate Nigerians like you.

Lol. You just can't admit the wordplay was above your paygrade. Better luck next time. Peace.

Ezigbonmadu:
I'm sure you just heard those two words and you've been trying to find where to use them. Sorry boy, they're opposite words technically speaking. Better luck next time and try to find out meaning of words before using them.

Its possible the joke is on you boy. Perhaps you have no idea of wordplay. Chap probably meant liberals in the sense of those who prefer free falling boobs and conservatives in the sense of those who prefer small tight boobs. And yes, these would be opposite camps.

Think again, the joke is on you.

LordAdam16 -

Okay - no worries on that score.

I think we have made as much points to one another about our respective views so no point flogging it any further. I was going to make a detailed response to your last, but I have thought better of it. Because in particular - it would waste time quibbling on details and not go to the root of my point. Therefore I wish to close by saying as follows in bullet points:

Summary of Position:

1. If it is purchased as an investment, no one can quarrel with that as anyone may invest as they please.

2. It is not certain that it is purchased as an Investment

3. Even if it is purchased as an investment it is not certain that that investment would appreciate in the manner you suggest, and certainly not interminably and infinitely as you suggest. Nothing appreciates infinitely.

4. There is a possibility that it is purchased for other reasons: some of these reasons could be: egocentricity, idiosyncrasy, eccentricity and as has been suggested by some: the reasons may be esoteric.

5. Regardless of the charitable work the purchaser may be involved in, where it is not purchased strictly as an investment, monies of that degree could be more commendably put to charitable causes: and there is no end to the charitable work available to be done in this regard.

6. If it is purchased for egocentricity, idiosyncrasy, eccentricity or esoteric reasons that would represent a disposition towards placing a premium on material factors above much higher and more commendable causes.

7. There is much inherited and chance fortune in the world and there is no reason to presume the buyer especially clever for that reason. Doing so will be an assumption.

8. While it is agreed that no one necessarily owes anyone else anything, there is much to be said for devoting ones resources to higher causes including the alleviation of suffering. Where vast amounts like that involved in this transaction could be diverted towards same, such is always commendable.

9. There are many people (even fabulously wealthy people) who would for their own world view consider this a lavish and vain glorious excess and they are entitled to such an opinion for themselves. I belong with such persons.

10. Remember the very valid point made by a contributor that such purchases are often high-end money laundering schemes. I do not see why you waved this aside. If it is a money laundering scheme (and the possibility for that remains just as high or even higher than the possibility that it is an investment) I am entitled to snarl at it in the same terms as I have been speaking.

I think I will leave it at that.

Other than this I would like to thank you for a rich discussion: my initial irritation at you arose only because of your own initial caustic responses. Many apologies and thank you. Good afternoon.

LordAdam16:
Chief, do you have an idea of what it means to have $450m in liquid assets and be ready to spend it on art? Not in stocks, real estate, but liquid assets? By my educated guess, whoever has that kind of money lying around is worth at least $10b. Both in the legal and underground world, the odds of having that much money and being dumb is larger than it is to win a global lottery.

This is not some Arab millionaire flying his $2m lambo car to London during the shopping season. Or some guy renting the enter floor in Ritz Carlton for a bachelor party. It's a made man or family who is bold enough to pay four times the asking price for one of the highest profile piece of art and is willing to invest in the multi-million dollar maintenance and security it'd require.

I can almost say with all certainty, this isn't a money miss road, because such a buyer would be a high-level patron of Christie's and most likely a frequent collector of art. Christie's and other high-end galleries don't accept random buyers for flagship sales. They already have a list of people with pockets deeper than Hades, and these people get front row seats in such auctions. Dumb people don't enter that list.

If every high-end sports car maxing out at $3m straight-out-the-dugout price have their exclusive lists that they reserve one-of-a-kind production cars for, how much more a 350+ year old auction that has brokered over $100b worth of sales.

In fact, take a few hours to research the high-end market of the art industry and you'd find out that only a small group of people snap up high-priced artworks. An exclusive group that know themselves with connections, and you think a dumb person who definitely has at least bought over $100m worth of art prior to this doesn't have the expected appreciation of HQ paintings at the back of his mind?

Quick question: just how are you certain this person is one who earned their money with their savvy or intelligence?

In the bold, you seem to hint that you are certain it could not be some chance billionaire.

How are you certain it's not some Saudi Prince drunk on oil? Or some other inherited fortune elsewhere?

With particular reference to the red bold do you think that high end inherited money would be turned down that list of yours if they have a low IQ? Or do you suggest that it is impossible for a Saudi Prince or other inherited money to have low IQs - and to patronize high end art even with low IQs?

PS: Will respond to the rest later, you made several fair points which I do not dispute: none of them take away the kernel of my argument though.

LordAdam16:
Doesn't f*cking matter!

People also launder money through religious institutions (churches, mosques, et cetera), as well as many high-traffic businesses from laundromats to fortune 500 companies. From art to real estate. What's the f*cking point?

Still doesn't make the art worth any less than $400m.

-Lord

So is this all you managed? No response to my previous?

lovingJehovah:
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Please go and correct your formatting before I respond, Bye for now, lover of Vultures waiting to eat children.

lovingJehovah:
It doesn't end here. We have a hope of the resurrection and living in a peaceful new world where death will be no more.

What other than wishful thinking shows you this?

No one living today can live forever in this earth. We will all die. Nevertheless, God has a better plan for righteous people.

Why did he come up with an imperfect plan in the first place?

He did not cause death and suffering. Man caused this by being disobedient.

That is the silly story you were told. What about animals? They caused their death and suffering too by eating of some apple/ Stop being childish and silly.

There are millions of people neglected by the governments of today but you cannot deny that there is no government.

I have not denied the existence of a Creator or Creators.

The Bible mentioned that God is not the ruler of this world. Satan is and he challenged Jehovah that he could bring about a better government and this is why we suffer. Moreover, Jehovah has a time schedule to bring to end the entire pain and sorrow that humans face when he ushers in his kingdom. Jesus urged us to pray for that kingdom to come.
The fact that God allowed Satan to rule and dominate does not mean that there is no God or that he is weak.
No one else can bring about a change but Jehovah through his son, Jesus.

The Bible is contrived nonsense with small glimmers of wisdom only.

This child is not superior to other kids dying elsewhere in the world. Death is death no matter how it comes it remains a bad thing.

You are a cold masochist deceived by religious claptrap if you can say this. If that picture cannot speak truth and reality to you, then you are beyond redemption.