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^^^ Confoundment and compounded misery

^^^ i have replied yours also. Take care and let's follow up.

Martian:
Hair - Evidence #2589654856 for "God".

Well somethings never change.

Weah96:
The man isn't trying to kill himself.

1. That's your assumption, unless you are inside his mind.

2. Being suicidal does not mean that a person will or actually intends to kill themselves. It is rather a state of such extreme despondence that predisposes one to even such thoughts. Persons in such a state of mind are deepy depressed and need support.

Might I add here that many suiidal people call out for help in many ways. Often people miss or ignore the signs until the deed is done when they finally give up on the world. All this man is doing on this forum is crying out for help.

If he is, then there's nothing we can do.

We can encourage one another out of despondence. We can also take practical steps to counsel and offer practical assistance to despondent people because life is hard. Deep depression is itself an illness that leads to all sorts of other illnesses. It is itself a mental illness for which everyone deserves help.

He's an adult.

Adults are most susceptible to deep despondence because of life challenges.

More lanes on the freeway for me.

This is very insensitive. Pardon me, but I have to ask - how old are you by the way? Don't shirk the question. Only women are naturally age-conscious. Age is no big deal for any man. Go ahead. There is a reason I ask it.

Weah96:
Mysteries? HAHAHA. Can't you pray for him for afar?

May God help your soul, if you are unable to recognize a troubled soul when you encounter one. If mockery is all that comes to mind when you encounter a troubled stranger, please I wish you well.

Whether I pray or not hardly concerns you.
Not that I even mentioned anything about "mystery" or "prayer"...
Please re-think your attitude on matters like this.

Not every issue is a chance to mock God or Prayer, you know?
Is that all you live for?

Chances to mock?
Even chances to mock suicidal people?

Dear Frustratedman,

Please contact me via PM.

In the meantime, just keep calm and still. Relax your mind.

DO NOT do anything to harm yourself in anyway whatsoever. If its possible to get something to eat, do so, and have some sleep.

I will be expecting your PM. We will take everything from there. I promise you, that all will be well.

Regards.

Kay17:
As usual, you are always neck deep in sentiments.

I don't see any sentiments or even any arguments I propounded in what I said there: you are simply completely at liberty to believe whatever suits you. If the idea of God is a conundrum - as it always will be - just be good to your fellow-man, however you may conceive and believe that. Be good to yourself also. I hope that is not too "sentimental" for you.

plaetton:
My questions, dear friend, highlights the fundamental differences our world views.

I am not sure that they do, nor am I sure that you can recognize or know my world view at all. If previously you may even have had a semblance, today it would look like something completely alien to you.

I am for continued scrutiny of existence, questioning every assumption, assembling bits of knowledge here and there, ever trying to get a clearer picture.
You and others, on the hand, have already concluded that it's all figured out, case closed.

I don't know from where you derive the above imagination. But I can assure you it is your imagination.
I for one, have not figured anything out - nor has anyone - compared to what there is to be figured out - if at all it will be by "figuring" anything - and this is completely aside from that which will never be either "figured out" - or ever known at all.

As such, you feel discomfort when people like me challenge your absolute facts.

I don't have any right to feel challenged at all because I am neither the owner nor inventor of any fact or fiction. Nor will any successful or failed challenge add or remove one iota to the truth about life.

plaetton:
Are humans special from all living species on earth, or in the universe?

Do you think you have figured out the meaning and purpose of life, or do you think that life , purpose and meaning are things that deserves continued a d relentless study and questioning?

Try and dwell on these things yourself my brother. I am not the knower of all things.

plaetton:
Hey

Which woodwork did u just emerge from?

My salutation.

I dey. I promised you I cannot argue up and down again. We are brief visitors here and anyone who wishes to see can see, or not. God is beyond that which you may ever contemplate. You can just take a second and draw in your entire life and memories, it would help: what you are, where you are going, and the purpose of your sojourn. You can reflect on your birth, if you or anyone remembers such, or even try to count the hairs on your head. You can sleep, and wake up, and propound and argue again and again. It is up to you. God is what IT is. Life is what it is.

No amount of argument or intellectualism, or the pretense of it, will change a DOT of that which has always been, that which IS, and that which will be.

cold:
Let me reitetrate,go fetch me your god let me have a one on one with him/it/she whatever.

How about let's arrange lunch or dinner for you and God? What restaurant do you prefer? Any particular preferences for food, wine and music? Cutlery? Hmmm?

I can't help noticing how all the pictures are devoid of human presence whereas this is said to be the most populous region in Nigeria.

logicboy01: Seeker of what?

Truth.
Please I am both weary and wary of any further talk, thanks.

logicboy01: lol.....I was just laughing at the the foolishness.


Uyi is one of the most confused souls here on NL (alongside bolaino) when it comes to beliefs. Christian to deist to atheist to spiritualist to deist to new age christian.......


Methinks Deepsight too is a lil confused too.......its easy to get lost in those big words and sophistry.....

That's the life of a true seeker. But never mind.

^^^^ I hope so

UyiIredia: Thanks.
Well, I have not given up yet and I don't intend to. I hate unfinished projects. I must convince at least one atheist on Nairaland; there are still some who have hope. Some I would rather ignore. I don't think that bizarre experience comes to everyone; some dose of good talking, some hope and some prayers are my only alternatives.

If you are determined to carry on, my advise will be to try and train your sights on the most reasonable and sincere ones. Mazaje comes to mind. Perhaps one or two others. The rest are a complete waste of time, and this includes many useless theists too. So before wasting your time, try to first separate the wheat from the chaff.

^^^ Enjoy o.

I think you fellows should calm down and listen carefully to what Prirncecalm is saying and not what he is not saying.
I can easily guess where he is coming from, but I will leave you to it.

One hint though, first ask him about his faith on Biblical Innerancy. You might then begin to get an idea. This person as far as I can see is not a herd-minded Christian, and that is a good thing.

Listen more carefully. I will be surprised if I am wrong about his trajectory.

UyiIredia: The worse slavery is in misunderstanding what the mind actually is.

Deep as it is steep, this comment. Bull's eye.

You should not be surprised that these here:

mazaje: What is this one saying?. . .

plaetton: Lol.
You stand alone on that one.

Martian: Yes......... No............... What??!!

- - - -> Can neither grasp the trajectory of the comment nor its purpose and its meaning. Worse still, they will labor under an implacable veil for the rest of their days until some seemingly bizarre experience bestirs the first ripple of serious observation of themselves, their minds and the world around them.

I have since decided not to waste my breath. It was a wise saying, that one about casting pearls before swine.

I hope you are well.

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Please don't be foollish enough to imagine Gbawe will ever respond to anything that exposes his hypocrisy.
Be careful also: he might brand you a stalker if you dare to remind him of your question: which was once my sorry fate.

texanomaly: Hun, are you having a bad day?

Not really darling. Been at the beach, had a nice boat ride, went horse riding and now downing some wine over grilled fish. That's not a bad day. I have decided to enjoy my life jaare.

plaetton: DS already has enough delusions of his own. Do you honestly want him to add yours to his, or substitute his for yours?
How many delusions can one good head hold at a time?

And by the way, to you purveyors of the Jesus delusion; do you actually get a commission for every package of the Jesus delusion that you sell to an African man?

And to Deepsight,
You are beginning to sound more and more like these marketers of religious delusions, using the same natural fear of death as your primary currency.

I am actually witnessing what seem to be a case of mental stagnation.
Remember that I mentioned on another thread that the gut microbial flora influence mental health.
It might be time to look inwards and pay commensurate homage to the infinitely small ecosystem of gods inside your tummy.
Lol, but seriously.

It surely cannot have escaped you by now that I don't give a fvck about your opinion.

Martian: So was the alleged deceased a male or a female?

Lol. Do you read at all? Please go back and have a look and then have the sense to apologize.

thehomer: @DeepSight

Not that this topic interests me, but just a heads up. If you don't want me to see a topic, simply refrain from calling me because with the new mentions feature, if you say my name I'll see it. I guess what I'll do is that if you call my name three times, then I may just turn up and burn you as I usually do. Otherwise, I'll just engage with topics that interest me. Though that is becoming rarerc.

Lol so you actually check the mentions. You have time.
Anyway noted.

Anyway Goodluck with your tantra magic

Olodo. Who believes in such. Please just get lost. The shallow stupidity of you people is nauseating.

^^^ Excellent Argument. Well made.

texanomaly: Man on this earth now? Explain please. Men living on this earth are mortal. At least their bodies are. What do you mean?

Oh no, I am not referring to the body. Man never was the body.

musKeeto: Oga DS, sorry for your loss.

I've got one question though. Do you think man would ever be able to achieve 'immortality' and if we do, would it influence your current views on God/afterlife?

Man is already immortal.

plaetton: lol!
A lot of big words for just one small word. The small word is capitulation.
I know a capitulation when I see one, and this one sure looks and smells like one. lol.

It is an honest admission that your worldview cannot stand any critical scrutiny.
It stands on a lot of hot air stirred up by superlative words.

But apartheid or not, you will always be challenged on this forum, and when need be, you will flogged with the rod of finely tuned reason.

If that is what you want to hear, yes, I CAPITULATE FULLY AND COMPLETELY.
Now do me the courtesy of respecting my wishes.
Thank you and have a good day.

plaetton: He he he .

Have we now entered into a new of era of online apartheid in NL?

Yes.

How can anyone who labels himself an intellect be so scared of facing the contrary views of others?.

1. I have never labelled myself an intellectual, it is other people that have bothered to imagine me so.

2. My Post history is there. No one can state that i fear a debate. But of recent, I have learnt to fear bare faced sttupidity. i have learnt that it erodes the mind, loses souls, advances blindness and shallowness, as well as is an egregious waste of any serious person's time. That is why I do not want the comments of those I mentioned. They (and you) are, one and all, frivolous iddiots. There comes a time of recognition in a mans life that a man must leave iddiots to be iddiots and focus clearly on his spirituality.

Whenever I say that you are extremely dogmatic, you know that I am being truthful.

I have not denied that. I AM.

Thanks for your wonderful comments Benodic. I on the other hand have experienced what I thought to be love but with the benefit of hindsight can say was really selfish obsessive desire.

That aside, do you think there is absolutely nothing of note in the practices described?

I am fine with that, thanks.

Sexxual Yoga

Three types of Tantras exist in India: first, White Tantra, second, Black Tantra, and third, Grey Tantra. In White Tantra, sexual magic is practiced without the spilling of semen. In Black Tantra there is spilling of semen. In Grey Tantra, the semen is and is not spilled; sometimes the semen is spilled, and sometimes it is not spilled. This type of Tantra leads the devotee to Black Tantra.

Within Black Tantra we find the Bons and Drukpas of the “Red Cap,” terrible and perverse black magicians [Editor: the author later recanted his comment about the Bons, say they are merely extreme in their efforts, but are not necessarily black]. These malignant people have disgusting procedures in order to reabsorb the semen through the urethra after having miserably spilled it. The outcome is fatal because the semen, after having been spilled, is charged with satanic atoms, which upon re-entering the body acquire the power to awaken the Kundalini negatively. It then descends to the atomic infernos of the human being and becomes the Tail of Satan. This is how the human being separates himself permanently from his Divine Being and sinks forever into the Abyss. Everyone who spills the Cup of Hermes is properly recognized as a black magician.

In Hindustan, sexual magic is known as Maithuna. It is also known as Urdhvareta Yoga and those who practice it are called Urdhvareta yogis.

In all truly serious and responsible yoga schools, sexual magic is practiced in a extremely secret manner. When a yogi couple, man and woman, have been well prepared, they are taken to a secret place where they are instructed about the Maithuna (sexual magic).

Yab Yum: Father-MotherThe couples unite sexually to work in the Great Work under the supervision of a Guru (master). The man, seated on a rug on the floor in the Buddhic position, with his legs crossed in oriental style, enters into sexual contact with the woman. She sits upon the legs of the man so that her legs encircle the male’s trunk. It is evident that the woman absorbs the phallus by sitting upon the man in this way. Thus, the man and woman are sexually united. The yogi couple remains in this state for hours without spilling the semen. It is the obligation of the yogi not to think during the practice of sexual magic. In those moments both man and woman are found in a state of ecstasy. Thus, in this way, the couple become deeply in love. The creative energies rise victoriously through their respective canals to the chalice of the brain. Animal desire is rejected. Then, the couple withdraws from the act without having spilled the semen.

The way sexual magic is practiced in the oriental style may be very uncomfortable for Westerners. Nevertheless, it is recommended for those people who are not capable of avoiding the spilling of the Cup of Hermes. Gnostics can sexually train themselves with this practice in order to learn how to refrain and avoid the spilling of semen. Gnostic couples do not need the physical supervision of a master; however, they could invoke the masters of the Astral to help them (the couple must be alone.)

It is necessary that animal desire does not prevail during the practice of sexual magic. Remember that desire is diabolic. The “I” is desire. The “I” is diabolic. Where there is desire, there cannot be love, because love and desire are incompatible. It is necessary to know that desire produces illusion. Whosoever desires, believes himself to be in love, feels himself to be in love, could swear he is in love. This is the illusion of desire. How many times have we seen couples who claim that they adore each other? After marriage, the castle of cards falls down and what remains is the sad reality. Thus, those who believed they were truly in love in reality hate each other. Once desire is satisfied, failure is inevitable. Then we only hear complaints and regrets, reproaches and tears. Where was love? What happened to love? It is impossible to love when there is desire. Only those who have already incarnated their Soul truly know how to love. The “I” does not know how to love. Only the Soul knows how to love. Love has its own atmosphere, its flavor, its happiness. It is only known to the one who has already killed animal desire. It is only known and experienced by the one who has already incarnated his Soul. Love in no way resembles that which people call love. What people believe love to be is only deceiving desire. Desire is an illusory substance that is combined astonishingly in the mind and in the heart to make us feel something that, though not love, makes us firmly believe that it is love. Only the horrible reality that appears after the consummation of the act and the satisfaction of desire shows us clearly that we were the victims of illusion. We believed we were in love, and really we were not.

The human being does not yet know that which is called love. Actually, only the Soul knows and is able to love. The human being still has not incarnated his Soul. The human being still does not know what it is to love. Satan does not know what love is. The only thing that the human being presently has incarnated is Satan (the “I”). The human being does not know how to love.

Love can only exist from heart to heart, from Soul to Soul. Whosoever has not incarnated his Soul does not know how to love. Satan cannot love and this is what the human being has incarnated. The Perfect Matrimony is the union of two beings, one who loves more, and the other who loves better. Love is the best religion that the human being can profess.

Desire is a substance that separates into many substances. These substances of desire manage to deceive the mind and the heart. The man who despairs because his wife has left him for another man was not actually in love. True love demands nothing, asks nothing, desires nothing, thinks nothing, only wants one thing: the happiness of the beloved one. That is all. The man who loses the one he loves only says, “I am happy that you have found your happiness. If it is with another man that you have found it, I feel happy that you have found it.”

Desire is another thing. The passionate man who has lost the woman he loved because she left him for another, may even go so far as to kill and also kill himself. He falls into the most horrible desperation. He has lost the instrument of his pleasure. That is all.

Actually true love is only known by those who have already incarnated their Soul. Humanity still does not know that which is called love. Indeed, love is like an innocent child; it is like the white plumed swan. Love is like the first games of childhood. Love does not know anything because it is innocent.

When we dissolve that horrible phantom that continues after death (the “I”), then that which is called love is born within us. When we reach that state, we recover our lost innocence.

The human being of this day and age has only incarnated an embryo of the Soul. At times this emits some sparks of love. The mother who adores her child is a very good example of that which is called love. The embryo of the Soul can be strengthened with the blessed flame of love.

Sometimes man and woman feel the radiations of love which flow from the embryo of the Soul, but they are immediately suffocated by the violent and terrible passions which Satan gives to both man and woman.

If we cultivate those divine vibrations of love, we can then fortify and strengthen the embryo of the Soul, so that later we may live that which we call love intensely.

Love strengthens the embryo of the Soul. When the embryo grows stronger, then we achieve the incarnation of the Soul.

Rare are those human beings who come to feel the divine loving vibrations that radiate from the embryo of the Soul. What humanity normally feels are the forces of desire. Desire also sings, becomes romantic and infinitely tender. Desire is the most deceptive poison that exists in the entire cosmos. Anyone who is a victim of the great deceiver would swear that he is in love.

Men and women, I invite you to love. Follow the footprints of those few in the world who have known how to love.

Gods and Goddesses make love in the nuptial enchantment of Paradise. Blessed are the beings who truly love. Only love can make us Gods.

http://sacred-sex.org/methodology/techniques-for-couples/144-sexual-yoga.html

PS: I came across this write up and thought certain things in it to be thought provoking and was wondering what parts others may think have elements of truth. I wish to make clear that I do not agree with many things in the write up and some parts actually appear funny enough to me to be hilarious. Nevertheless I think there are some striking things therein and would be interested in the thoughts of others. I would mostly be interested in the thoughts of m_nwankwo, justcool, benodic, bigfrancis and rossikk. Others are welcome but I am particularly not interested in the comments of any atheists or futilists. To make my self perfectly clear I do not wish to hear from Plaetton, Logicboy, Martian, Pastor AIO, Jupiterscock, Jayriginal, wiegraf, thehomer and the like. Kinldy respect that wish. Many thanks.