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sonmvayina:
Where did you get all these from. ?
Stop adding to God's word.

Or you don turn God adviser?

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Are you Hindu or Hindu leaning

LordReed:
The timeless wisdom of Sagan:

https://youtube.com/shorts/Y7WELBGm268?si=RdG1aTrfAHAUFKuQ

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This man is one of my favourite humans of all time and among the greatest minds to ever walk this Earth.

How low the USA has fallen.
All because of racism.

franchasng:
My brother let me tell you something most of you don't know.


There are things that made America the greatest nation on earth and the world's undisputed superpower, it's beyond this and that.


America is a nation founded on replicating the world. America is like the whole world in one. Every nationality, every race, every tribe is represented in America and giving equal right as citizens making them see America as their homeland and ready to do everything to defend America and make America great.


There are Russians who are American citizens. There are Jews, Chinese, Japanese, Iranians, Koreans, Africans, etc, so every talent in the world is found in America unlike in other nations. So America is an assembly of world's best, worst and average human talents in one nation.


Another thing is the petrodollar that made funds super readily available for Americans and America. America then built strong institutions that ensure every citizen have equal rights and access to good life.


America then used the petrodollar to build a formidable educational and research institutions that further attract the best talents from around the world to research and discover things never seen. They throw money at rare talent researchers unlike other racist nations like Russia, China, Germany, etc. Because of this, America ends up producing the first and best technological and scientific innovations before any other nation.


They used all these and more to build the most efficient, most formidable military industrial hubs and system that no other nation can ever match till the world ends.


America will reign forever bro.



Russia and China are homogeneous nations made up of mostly people of their race. You cannot compare such with talents drawn from all races and nations of the world.

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Lol. Nothing like forever for any empire on Earth.

franchasng:
This secret revelation here is one reason no nation should dare America because that country have secretly developed terrifying war arsenals that no other nation can match and reason they delete some of the scientists that work on these secret weapons to ensure it doesn't leak out.



I know what I saw when I had some crash course on NASA space missions, US Air Force and UFO's communication, that was when I started to fear and respect America. That country will reign as world superpower till Jesus Christ returns and it's beyond human comprehension, it has some supernatural undertone that many won't understand.


Any nation that dare America when America have a daredevil President like Trump will be completely wiped out of global map and no nation will dare ask questions other than to shiver and cry genocide and human right violations, nothing more or less.

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You are living in la la land. No monopoly of terrifying secret weapons. Several nations have them. And yes, I agree some border on the supernatural.

But you are joking if you think it's only the USA.

brain54:
Drones are now a major part of modern warfare...


Drones have really given Russia significant problems in their war with Ukraine. Same as Iranian drones gave the United States problems unenvisaged previously.


Prove that some of these armies are now obsolete, not as modern as we thought and would struggle with modern warfare!

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Fact. And when you add Cyber Warfare to the mix, no one can predict the outcome of an all out war anymore.

A situation in which one side with a brilliant hacker or hacking system can paralyze the tech of the other side really equalises alot.

IjeBos:
Glad the pope is calling this out.
Pope Leo Calls Out ‘Those Who Manipulate Religion and the Very Name of God’ for ‘Military, Economic and Political Gain’ in Scorching Statement
https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/pope-leo-calls-out-those-who-manipulate-religion-and-the-very-name-of-god-for-military-economic-and-political-gain-in-scorching-statement/

MAGA: Bring prayer back to schools
MAGA: Place 10 commandments in government buildings
MAGA: Make the Bible the only book people can be sworn in on
Pope: War is bad.
MAGA: Keep your religion out of politics!

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LordReed:
LoLz. You have even moved to lying now. Quote where I said "Show me an invention from the pages of the bible". It's just clear you weren't parodying, you were outright lying. Bwahahahahahaha!

Bro whatever is disturbing you is not me that caused ok. LoLz.

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Its pathetic. And poor you, you were almost vouching for this chap as one of the better ones.

Kukutente23:
When was that and what did you write?
I'm not one to hold grudges
My strength is renewed everyday

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Oh glad to hear.

Kukutente23:
Bitter? What could cause bitterness between you and I if I may ask

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There was a time I wrote you a jibe in Yoruba which it seemed you took exceptional offense to. After that you appeared extra belligerent and thats why I left off for a while.

Kukutente23:
Unfortunately I can't return the compliment because you've never shown any sense
Whether it's religion or any other topic you don't exude much to be desired other than writing + like a nursery school kid

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Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Still bitter I see, my little squire.

Dont worry you will get over it.

basilico:
Obrigardo. I don't buy crypto neither would I waste money doing forex trading.
Noone is forced to buy crypto, so if someone is making money that's because there are those who trade in cryptos and forex.

Jared Kushner has been negotiating with Arab countries, is involved deeply in the Abraham Accords..That puts him in direct contact with wealthy Arabs with plenty of cash to invest. If they decide to get into a joint venture with him when he is not in government, I don't see any problem.Everyone uses their contacts and relations to grow their businesses.

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Concepts such as nepotism, conflict of interest, abuse of office and insider trading are alien to you.

TV01:
But you could not addressthe actual question .
The are many fraudsters out there. And yes, some call themsolves pastors or MOGs. Some dont .


TV

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Clearly you are the one with the peculiar interpretation. The NIV for example does not understand it they way you do.

"23 From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. “Get out of here, baldy!” they said. “Get out of here, baldy!” 24 He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the Lord. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys." - NIV

Nonetheless, no interpretation of those words are sufficient for the bloody consequence.

Again, if it was an isolated case of the OT God displaying irrational murderous violence, one could understand. But like I said, this thing is littered all over the bible. I created a thread the other day about how 70, 000 Israelites were killed by Yahweh because David conducted a census. The worst aspect was that it was Yahweh that put it in his heart to do so.

Even though one wonders what the crime in a census is.

You see, when you excuse incident after incident it becomes tiresome. A few incidents can be understood or let go but something that is so repetitive and all over the place calls for pause.

TV01:
Possibly to some, and I can see why. It's one of the reasons I almost elided. But not if you grasp the bible thematically and understand types, shadows, pre-cursors and the unfolding work of God's unfolding redemptive plan.
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TV

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The bold excuse is often used by fraudulent bible scholars and pastors to scam people into meanings not intended by scripture and to escape from tight spots in doctrine.

TV01:
Kindly reference where I asked for an invention direct from the ee.slamic text

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I have already provided receipts above days ago. Whether you saw them or not is your business.
And no, the question has not been about the text in this instance.

PS: TV01 - And no, LordReed never asked for the bold from Christian scripture either.

TV01:
Oga, you are a mocker...do your own study. But, out of the JC inculcated goodness of my heart .

Elisha, was actually quite hairy - 2 Kings 1:8. The references to head may have been in relation to his former master Elijah - 2 Kings 2:3-5. The "go up" taunt probably alludes to ascension\rapture as experience by both. Like I mentioned, it touches on the test of deities and demonstration of Godly power, also experienced by Elijah. 1 Kings 18. The hair thingy could also shadow Samson, whose annoiting was literrally in his locks. Maybe I should grow mine - can't stand locks though .

This is a stretch.

cococandy:
He’s basically out here quoting an article that says black people need to go back to being slaves.

These shameless black men on this forum siding with racists. I wonder how anyone in their lives respects or looks up to them, when they have such low opinions of themselves.

I never thought I’d see the day black men would come online and wish to go back to times when they could legally be discriminated against.

A damn shame.

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It gives one the chills to behold.

basilico:
Bemeruca.

Time Magazine 1958.

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Sweet Jesus.

This is a new low.

Know you no shame?

TV01:
Don't be so high-strung. It's unbecoming - especially of a male .

It was designed to mock and show how ridiculous your question was - which you admitted to yourself. - and by definition parodies will "imitate" the original.

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Nothing can change the fact that you asked a particular question of Islam and when the exact same question was returned to you about Christianity you began to cry. Nothing can change that fact. Not an iota about the question was changed except the religion referred to.

How absurd can you be? You yourself ask a question of others and when others ask the same question of you, you claim it is silly.

How ridiculous and dishonest can anyone be?

Seems you are more comfortable with, and suited, too the kind of crass abuse that normally passes here - noted for future reference .
TV

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As a poster LordReed ranks 10/10 in quality, intellect, depth, maturity and is actually studious. He has a strong mind that doesn't blink easily and even the strongest thinkers will sweat to convince him of anything that doesnt add up. You are wasting your time trying to demean a character light years ahead of you in every sense and I dont say this lightly.

I know ahead you will think I say this because he agrees with me. Little would you know that we disagree on a great deal.

Kukutente23:
Don't let Wike deceive you. PDP constitution specifies zoning as to who gets what and not north vs south
What PDP constitution says is that if the north gets president, south should get VP. I remember it was this argument that led to Ogbulafor's ouster. He was chairman while Jonathan was president and he started saying Jonathan will not contest. He got kicked out.

That said, I believe rotation is being abused in Nigeria. Politicians are using it when convenient as a bargaining chip and ignoring it when not convenient.
If we really want rotation, then there should be no second term since what we want is for the offices to go round. The idea of second term kills rotation and vice versa. If rotation prevails, Tinubu's performance will no longer be the overriding factor in 2027 which is what second term is supposed to be about. So having second term clause and still shouting rotation is a misnomer and self-serving

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Brilliantly put, with nuance. You see, you are always sound once its not religion.

TV01:
Fourthly, because I suspect you are just after a "gotcha", I wont bore you with situational context in Eisha's prophethood, the nuance around calling someone who the bible describes as hirsute "baldy", or the consequent ramifications for mocking that authority.

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I am sincerely interested in this nuance, pray elucidate.

I love the way you challenged this event based on morés that are only found in JC culture


TV

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Don't be silly.

brain54:
Whenever I hear this issue of power rotation...

Is it constitutional?

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It's a gentleman's agreement which is useful in a multi ethnic space like ours.

However it is part of the PDP Constitution as well.

basilico:
1951. Iran PM nationalized the oil. Which was controlled by Anglo Iranian Oil Company.
He is overthrow in 1953 through a CIA led coup that installs the Shah.
The Shah doesn't reverse the nationalization,he gave the fully Iranian National Iranian Oil Company the full ownership but allows the western consortium to manage the oil.
1973. Shah extends NIOC full management rights but western companies remain the prime buyers of the oil.
1979. Khomeini gives the NIOC absolute rights cancelling every contracts with western companies,which was what he had advocated since the 1950s. Iranians are happy and they decide Allah law shall be supreme ,and his earthly representative will be Khomeini.
( Don't forget Iranians had held Americans hostage for 444 days ,there was no love for the Ayatollahs).
Iraq secular Baathists don't want the revolution to hit home. Saddam starts a war . His primary motivations were to reclaim the Shatt al-Arab waterway, annex oil-rich Khuzestan, and prevent the spread of Iran's Islamic revolution.

America tactily Saddam with intelligence and $$$ but no weapons,. In later years Kuwait invasion Saddam primarily used Soviet hardware.

Later on in 1985 to free some American hostages in Lebanon Reagan sells Iran high tech weapons on what was known the Iran Contra. Profits from the arms sales are routed to Contra rebels in A America.
In the contra scandal Khashoggi was the middle man who arranged the weapons transfer. (Epstein handled the discrete movement of money,he was a financial guru having gained experience from Bear and Sterns, Khashoggi was his client).

Reagan played both sides .

While America gave aid to both Saddam and Khomeini, this does not give Khamenei the greenlight to murder everyone America , which I've already listed ,upto 1500 of them and numerous plots thwarted within America .

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You write in a very scattered way. I will be back.

But the creature in the rock already promised that. He did so in person before the NASS.

The only reason he will not join is because he cannot be Lord and Master there.

LordReed:
Which gospel was he preaching when he was praising Allah on Easter Sunday?

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With expletives in the same breath.

basilico:
My position is very simple. Iran has been killing Americans and Israelis since the Ayatollahs came to power.
America has killed so many people since the 50s like the Vietnam
Are they going around countries killing Americans. Iranians are jihadists plus they are a state. They want the atomic bomb, which is why they won't give up their 440 kg of HEU.
Iran acts like it has a divine right to eliminate anyone anywhere. They were assuring countries recently of their safety as long as they didn't support the American and IDF.

State terrorism combined with religious terrorism best describes Iran.
Iran was behind Oct 7, the plan was to eliminate Israel by having Jerusalem flooded with allahu Akbar yelling jihadists .Hamas called Al Aqsa flood . You are not likely aware that 6000 Palestinians breached Israel . 3800 were Iran trained elite Nukbha forces. nukbha means elite or 'the best of the best', the Hamas Delta forces. Not kyst anyone trained to load and unload an AK 47.

What country has a right to murder civilians in the most heinous way including roasting babies in ovens. Shooting up women's genitals. What evil must be in someone's mind to rape a whole family in their home then murder them..

I didn't think you could really really justify Iranian attacks .It's a pathetic excuse from you saying Oh Israel this, Israel that implicitly saying Oct 7 was justified.

The world dithered when Rwanda genocide was taking place. The world has arrested leaders who massacred their own people. Iran executed over 30,000 in 1987 under Khomeini . This year they executed over 30,000 .
Oga ,choose the hill you want to die on.

just

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Only two countries in this world act like they have a divine right to eliminate everyone everywhere and that's the USA and Israel.

Can you count the amount of targeted assassinations they have carried out of civilian scientists in Iran?

You are not serious.

Oh and it's interesting how you pretend you didn't see anything written about the Iran Iraq war for example. This is telling and symptomatic. It simply tells me that you close your eyes to any atrocity from one side. And that alone shows me you are not objective and there is no point reasoning with you.

I mean you said since the Ayatollahs came to power they have been killing Americans and Israelis. Do you know how soon after they came to power the Iraq war was launched against them? 1980. Yes - barely a year after they came to power. And that war lasted some eight years. Killing hundreds of thousands. And that was the handiwork of the USA. And you pretend it didn't even happen and accuse Iran, who was the defending party.

You probably believe Israel has a right to treat Palestinians the way they do. To steal from them, mass murder them, occupy their land and implement apartheid against them. I am one hundred percent sure you will defend everything.

You talked about October 7 as though it was the beginning of the conflict between Israel and Palestine. It was not. It was retaliation. You would of course not say anything about the mass killings of Palestinians that same year in the West Bank by Israel before October 7. About five hundred were killed. But of course total silence, you will act like it didn't even happen. Once there is retaliation you will only see the retaliation.

And the world has decried Israel's over retaliation by the way. To you, the killing of tens of thousands in tiny Gaza in retaliation is just fine.

By the way, the stories about beheading babies and roasting them were proven to be lies very early in the conflict.

tctrills:
Again, your point is that children are not allowed to die?
So basically you want to make God guilty of the death of every child especially if you don't like the circumstances of their death?

Are you just trying to force an argument?

As we speak today, maybe a million kids died, most of them didn't even mock a prophet, why should I hate God for that. The giver of life is the only one free to take life without being questioned.

Don't you realise the foolishness of what you are doing?
I loan you a car at no interest and tell you that I can take it at any time.
Then you question my morality for taking it at a time you were not ready to return it. Make it make sense.
God has every moral reason to take any life. It's you and I who didn't create life that do not have the moral backing to do so.
Again, respect others religion, don't use the name of their God in vain. How simple can that be? Learn to be decent.

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I cant believe anyone can write this.
Tearing children to pieces is okay? Over a joke?

Please never condemn terrorists or Islamic extremists again..

They are saints beside this.

tctrills:
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Your point here is, if a child dies, God is barbaric right?
So if you are God, from what age will you allow your creations to die?
Your argument here is that God taking a life He created at an age you don't approve of is Barbaric so, I want know what age do you approve.

Why I called your question low is because there could a thousand good reasons why God did it but we don't know.
If you want me to use my imagination, I could invent 10 wonderful reasons but can we be arguing about God's unrevealed intentions?

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Jesus Christ, you reduce tearing children to pieces over childlike jokes to a question of what age is okay for anyone to die since we will all die?

Where is your moral compass, where is your conscience?

Really? Mauling kids to death for cracking jokes as kids will do?

zeyt:
None of the above my brother. You will never believe me.

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Then you must be limited to comfortable circles.

LordReed:
Abami eda! You deserve it and more for being a beacon of culture. May your legacy live on.

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An utter legend.

And kudos to my childhood crush Sade.

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Jesus, same here. You have taste.
But what am I saying. There must be millions of us.

Honorable mentions to those of her ilk, Anita Baker, Tracy Chapman, Enya, Asa.

tctrills:
Haba, this is low, my job is not to justify every incident in the bible that happened over the span of 3000 years.
Could this have been a case of Elisha misusing his power as Moses did, and Moses was punished for it?
Or was the Lord trying to teach a greater lesson?
There could be a thousand explanations for this. I am sure that the duty of a Christian is not to have an explanation for every incident in the bible.

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This is what I don't like. A perfectly legitimate question, you want to wave it off, even saying it is low. For goodness sake how is it low?
Besides you should understand that the overall context is the fact that such harsh acts of barbarism appear to be littered all over the Old Testament. It speaks to an overall character trajectory of the OT God which is appalling. TV01, BASILICO, any explanation?

These were children for goodness sake, and recall that the same God commissions the mass murder of infants, children and women in other verses.

But then, can you recall that you once listed the religions you prefer and those you detest? Islam and Christianity were among those you detest. Can you please give me the list again? I have a very interesting and insightful response for you.

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X - Christianity
X - Islam
X - Judaism
✔ - Buddhism
✔ - Taosim
✔ - Confucianism
✔X - Spiritual mystical traditions
✔X - Hinduism