₦airaland Forum

scholes0:
Oh yeah, I have a profound knowledge of Nigerian, and indeed World geography.
the problem here is that Southern minorities neither want to be in a Yoruba nor in an Igbo dominated region- why do you have a problem with that- does that unquenchable thirst for a coastline bother you so badly?
if Akwa Ibom and Rivers are classed as Eastern, would it be right to class Edo, Bayelsa, Delta as "Western" simply because they look so on the map?--- you see to forget that geopolitics has a lot of cultural elements embedded in it. ----simply put, they would be relegated to the back benches in their regional politics if they were classed as anything but "South-South"
loo at the us, where a very geographically "southern state" like New Mexico is not considered part of the "South" but rather "Western", however a more northern state like Virginia is purely Southern..... guess why that is?
cultural differences...

I guess everyone is ressponding to the concerns of the op, but you keep saying some thing different. The conversation is not about the politcal expression called "south south" it's whether the towns comprised therein are in the East, North, south or west geographically.

scholes0:
That means nothing- it isn't anyone's fault that Igbo land is completely surrounded on all sides by other INDEPENDENT ethic groups that dont want to be classed in the same region.
And to your example, that was why I was saying the So called South East is East Central (it actually used to be called that until recently), while those places you listed, Ogoja, Obubra, Ikom, Benin, Warri, Brass, Ughelli etc are simply Southern or Eastern depending on how they are viewed.

Hey come on! Put on your thinking cap! This is about geography and not a matter of being surrounded by other ethnicities!

scholes0:
Read carefully...

Talking purely from a geographical point of view, Some parts of the SS are actually South Western (Edo, Delta, Bayelsa), while the other three are South Eastern (Rivers, Cross River, Akwa Ibom)
But since SW and SE are already associated strongly with yorubas and igbos respectively, it became "imperative" to coin out a name to represent the southern minorities and their zone, into a geopolitical region that is neither yoruba nor igbo in nature.
If you all remember well, the SS states of Edo, Delta were once in the Yoruba dominated Western region, while others like Akwa Ibom and Cross river, were once in the Igbo dominated Eastern region---- the Niger Delta people wanted none of that anymore, and wanted to assert their own independence, so they all coalesced into a separate southern region.
In the correct terms, the South West is properly termed, but the so called "South East" of today, should actually be East Central, and the so called "south-south" should be just South.

You either lack the knowledge of geography or simply being mischevious. Bring your so called Nigerian map and tell me where youwill place Aba or Obuaku and Afikpo.

emmatok:
Gbam

Explain the gbam! Because Aba is more southerly than Benin. And Ogoja in the south south is more northern than Owerri.

So explain the gbam you mean?

Abagworo:
If you take a look at this map you will notice the area I marked
with red line covering Akwa Ibom and Cross River States. That
area is geographicaly Southeast. Igboland could either be East
central or South central as against wrongly termed Southeast.
Niger Delta consists mainly Rivers,Bayelsa and Delta States with
small fractions of Imo and Abia States. South-South is a wrong
coinage for Southern minorities or more precisely parts of the
South outside Igbo and Yoruba area.
So in essence none of the terms used represents reality.

You're wrong! Before the oil politics began in Nigeria, early geographers accurately identified Igboland as Eastern which it actually lies in, and extended southerly and centrally. As Afikpo is much easterly just as Obuaku is very much southerly.

Another geographical anomaly is BENUE state as the state which is squarely situated in the East of Nigeria, but with some colonial arrangement found herself politically in the North. So many examples.

The reason is that "south south" is mostly an adminstrative expression and less of a geographical entity. 70 percent of the "south south" was in the former geographical EASTERN NIGERIA. It was an idea fashioned by Dr. Ekwueme and was accepted by the government of the day to group the Southern minorities in a political Union.

Therefore, the concept of "South south" is a geographical fraud as ABA in Abia state for example is more geographically southerly than BENIN or OGOJA which is in the "south south". It is all politics.

This is a normal practice in wars. Nigeria and Biafra had mercenaries fighting for them.
Jonathan is a war-time president taking tactical war decisions.

Acekidc4:
Huh!! Nice!!

Like any other child dressed with a konkosa

Good. Intellectually, the both candidates lacked depth. But GEJ fares better in expressing his thoughts and the world around him. Pity.

The rantings of a village idi.at

olatade:
An unrepentant PDP Elder asked me if I have watched the documentary, I asked which one, he said the documentary showing how Tinubu owes 75% of Lagos revenue, that Tinubu is highly corrupt. And I asked him, Daddy, does Tinubu have immunity, he said NO. Is Tinubu a spirit? he said NO. Is Tinubu in Nigeria, he said yes. Has Tinubu been invited by EFCC? he said NO. I shook my head, and told him, Sir, I pray never to be like you when I grow up. He became sad and walked away. Instead of a sane government to prosecute an alleged corrupt man, they are busy running wasteful documentary with tax payers money. What a shame!

Politics of the moment apart, I must admit this is one of the few sensible comments i have come across on Nairaland. Keep it and never you do like those who first type before they think.

thexzy:
This car looks like my grass cutting machine or all those First Aid Motors wia them dey use carry Mikel Obi when him sustain injury

Mister man, You've said nothing...The thread is about improvised automobile irrespective of the shape. So what's your point?

This is purely a fiction of the vested interests. If they agree that the election would be won in the"heavily christian populated SW part of LAGOS", they should then factor in the ethnic demographic set of the area in question.

Poor prognosis!!!!

First, the caption reads "to" strip. Then one line reads "has" striped, and the other reads "recommended", wow! Nigeria!!!

@Berem, No, you're missing the point, you can't force people to express their identity in a way they don't want. Your grouse here is identification which is utterly misplaced!!

berem:
Only in Nigeria shiit happens.
If they have to protest,why do it flying Biafran Flags? Is it not a treasonous to do so?
Where are the security agencies when you need them?

How long will it take to dawn on you guys that the Biafra expression has come to stay, regardless of who is at Abuja? Even Obasanjo knows that.

This is an inverse picture of what is to come 28 march regardless of Okorocha's false imaging of Imo.

Is it not nemesis catching up with thoughtless fools like Fashola? The robbery also coming days after his master said that "even if Buhari robbed the central bank, they'll still vote for him" Then, Why should this robbery be of concern to him? Idi.ats!!!!

Even at this price, Nigeria has already lost its bearing. We have read how Lagos Newyork return ticket was 600 Naira in 1982. So what's the news here?

Have heard her....talks like a local market woman.

All this local champs wey their.....they stink sef

The truth is that Buhari/osibanjo tango is a marriage of convenience. It is most likely to descend into another Abiola/North inbroglio down the line if Buhari wins. North is North and Yoruba is Yoruba, old animosities remains unblemished. Interesting times ahead.

Op, you forgot to include the fact that these local champs called celebrities also lie about their financial status.

And to which the gullible public finds out only when they are sick or find themselves in a dilema that is bound to expose their "flash in the pan" lifestyle.

Paracetamol and some other kinds of pain killers are equally bad for the kidneys . And have been indicted in 95 percent of the rising kidney failures in Nigeria. This is coupled with the fact that a large number of these pain killers hawked on the Streets are counterfeited.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3271191.stm

InvertedHammer:
Aboki with his transistor radio fit stand in line for 5 days to collect their PVCs. It is not as if they have better things to do. But Igbo man will start calculating opportunity cost while a Yoruba man will opt for the nearest owambe.

That's why. And don't forget that one Alhaji fit born 30 children. After all no be say e go train them. But our Southern brothers dey consider the economy before dem have pikin. If you go North, people bokwu like ants.

About the second paragraph, how come this trend does not replicate in the Maghreb? Even in the Neighboring Chad and Niger, they have not experienced this baby "boom" even though they share the same cultural traits?

InvertedHammer:
Bayelsa + Cross River + Ebonyi + Ekiti + FCT + Kwara + Ogun + Yobe = 5,927,804.

While Kano + Katsina = 6,732,135.

I can now see why some people are crying over the use of PVC.

The more you move to the Sahara with high mortality rate and less economic opportunities, the more the population pressure. No attraction to the economic zones of the nation? Nigeria defying all conventional wisdom since the time of Moses! Wow! What explains this trend that is not seen elsewhere around the world?

abbasbo003:
its obviously, obvious that GEJ is rigging again. number one most civil corruption leader[b][/b].

What made you say so...and how are the figures different from 2011 before the elections?

SOUTH EAST PVC COLLECTION For 5 five states 6.5Million
SOUTH WEST PVC COLLECTION For 5 states 5.1million



LAGOS STATE 3.7million - How many are for Yorubas and the rest of Nigeria in this figure Interesting!

Gynacologist:
abeg no vex whch one n nose job?

When a local champ decides to make her physical attributes a subject of public scrutiny, someone like Mercy in this instance, should then think about fixing (repairing) her nose which needs to be in proportion with her face. Do you think stardom is easy?

Schematics:
Update: expansion work at the Nigerian Metalurgical Institute- Onitsha

This is very interesting. Please endevor to update us more on the issues concernig this plant. It should be one of the key drivers of the growing SE Industrial renaissance.