₦airaland Forum

omenka:
You should be playing with Ben10 toys and not milling around elders.

Saying Jonathan is intelligent speaks a lot about how intelligent you are and how intelligent those you are surrounded by are.

But, Mister, relatively Buhari is not better. Until now, Buhari understood Nigeria to mean the North. He lacked the aptitude to grasp the demography of that country. His ideas about the economy is not known. Let him tell us what he would do differently from GEJ's post oil economic vision visavis the current focus on agriculture, indigenous manufacturing, Railways, FDI etc.. Let him tell us how he would have done it better.

The Buhari type is what you get when hatred, unproductive regional egoism, power mongering underlies the heart beat of a political gathering such as Nigeria.

tochukwuifeduba:
Now INEC have released the total number of eligible voters for the forthcoming Election its only Outright rigging of the 2015 election that can secure a win for Jonathan and the PDP.

The South East which have always pride itself as the support base of the Jonathan Administration have the less number of eligible voters.

The Highest number of Eligible voters is in the North-East and North-west which is the stronghold of Gen Mohammed Buhari and the Apc

INEC Releases Total Number Of Eligibility Voter For 6 Geo Political Zone

This is the total number of eligible voters in each Six Geopolitical Zone in Nigeria by INEC


SOUTH EAST.

Abia 1,481,191

Anambra 1,758,220

Enugu 1,301,185

Imo 1,611,715

Ebonyi 876,249

TOTAL 7,028,560

SOUTH WEST.

Lagos 6,247,845


Ogun 1,869,326

Osun 1,293,967

Ondo 1,558,975

Ekiti 750,753

Oyo 2,577,490

TOTAL 14,298,356

SOUTH SOUTH.

Edo 1,412;225

Delta 1,900,055

Bayelsa 472,389

Akwa Ib 1,714,781

RIvers 2,419,057

C/Rivers 1,018,550

TOTAL 8,937,057

NorthCENTRA.

Benue 1,415,162

Kogi 1,215,405

Kwara 1,115,665

Nassarawa 1,224,206

Niger 721,478

Plateau 1,983,453

TOTAL 7,675,369

NorthEAST

Adamawa 1,714,860

Bauchi 1,835,562

Borno 2,730,368

Gombe 1,266,993

Taraba 1,308,106

Yobe 1,182,230

TOTAL 10,038,119

NorthWEST

Jigawa 1,852,698

Kano 5,135,415

Katsina 2,931,668

Kaduna 3,565,762

Kebbi 1,603,468

Sokoto 2,065,508

Zamfara 1,746,024

TOTAL 18,900,543


ifeduba ThankGod T ( Aguiyi na Ozubulu)

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Believe Nigerian statistics and you'll believe anything.

Let's assume for a second that these figures are correct, it means that the South East alone with 99.9% Igbo indigenous residents has a voting population of 7,178185, the highest single ethnic voting block in Southern Nigeria. On the other hand, the 5 South Western states excluding Lagos state have an 85% indigenous population of 7,762463. The Igbo size in lagos state is no longer debatable. All the South East Igbos living outside the SE had Always expressed similar sentiments when it comes to voting with their kins in the SE.

Mind you, this is South East and not the entire Igboland. Igbo people are the second largest population in all the 36 states outside the indigenes of the states. They have the highest population in the FCT. In presidential elections every single vote cast from the remotest corner of the country is tallied to the benefactor. What counts most is the 'actual voters' on the particular day.

Olubodef:
RIP


Pls kindly tell tell Awolowo and Zik dat corruption has risen 2 d highest level and suicide bombing is now common in Nigeria...
Tell my late mum dat her pikin dey suffer and she born me 4 Naija and my late dad dat I can neva 4give him 4 practising polygamous

Funny but true, my dear

Looking at the picture of the deceased, one can safely suspect she died from cardiovascular related development. She must have had a very weak and enlarged heart as a result of High blood pressure triggered by her size. It is also very probable that the pressure was not effectively controlled as a large number of sufferers stop their medications due to the side effects. She should have worked on her Body Mass Index. This would have gone a long way to help even as her kidney function must have reduced badly. This is what you get when you treat the threat of high blood pressure with kid gloves. Again, electioneering seasons and the attendant anxiety are always very dangerous to the health of high BP sufferers. May she rest in peace.

Mcbussy:
I should also use my legs to power my gen abi or I should live,dwell and die in d dark like a caveman? ...I don't av a right to cheap petrol,I guess I also have no right to steady power supply,right? Abeg make una dey think b4 una post.

Please,remind me where I mentioned Buhari in my post. From ur premise,i can equally say Jona was our "yesterday" cos he has been tested and he has failed. So I stand on my point that I will vote any other person aside from gej.

Sentimentalism,ethnicism and religious bigotry has placed us in this deep shyte ...and it will ruin us totally until we start functioning as rational beings.

Please, who's that any other person you'll vote for?

Mcbussy:
Lmao!...what is this 1 saying? So u actually believe the situation of the country still depends on religious and ethnic bigotry?

So ur gullible enuf to think all Christians will vote for Jona?...u are either a learner or a dreamer. I am a christian,and I am not ready to make dsame mistake twice . This country needs a change, and I've seen a lot of Christians willing to vote for a change.

I'm not saying Buhari would be better, but I'd rather vote in a different person every 4 years until we get the desired change, than to vote in a puppet d 2nd time in d name of "religious faith" that we share.

Could you please reread your comment and see how you're countering your own very position. You admitted Buhari won't be better, because at least you've tried the coup plotter. And yet you expect the "desired change" from someone that "wont be better". Wow!

What an intelligent person would normally do in such a situation is to ABSTAIN.

AlfaSeltzer:
That's way too much reoccurence from the same set of tribe for it to be a coincidence.

If u got my drift, that's why it's "extra ordinary".

An extra ordinary coincidence of negative fate. Quite interesting.

In other words, Yoruba votes are not enough to put Buhari at the aso rock. Take the 2.8 million votes GEJ got from the SW in 2011 & give Buhari, he'll still have a deficit of 6.8Million votes to catch up GEJ's result of 2011. This is serious.

alabiyemmy:
This is d most stooopid post on Nairaland since inception. So Amaechi Is igbo!

So, you've been deluded all this while? Well, the chips are now down, Amaechi is IGBO even the abokis knows that

berem:
God go bless you wella! You just spoke my mind!!

Amaechi will fight hard and brutal. There is a game plan copied from Jonathan's successful "Azikiwe" script in 2011. Dakuku Peterside is already telling who cares that he's an Igboman and speaks only Igbo language. Watch more of that script from Amaechi as he makes Ohaneze his new abode. It's all about winning

If this is true , watch out for an interesting and no holds bared campaign. Amaechi will attempt to cut into Jonathan's hold in Igboland.

Watchout for him reaffirming Ikwerre Igboness and going after jonathan at Ohaneze Ndigbo. Already his kinsman, Dr. Isaac Mahonwu is the deputy president of Ohaneze Ndigbo. Anything to win. I think

If this is true , watch out for an interesting and no holds bared campaign. Amaechi will attempt to cut into Jonathan's hold in Igboland.

Watchout for him reaffirming Ikwerre Igboness and going after jonathan at Ohaneze Ndigbo. Already his kinsman, Dr. Isaac Mahonwu is the deputy president of Ohaneze Ndigbo. Anything to win.

sandraokosun:
U re right but buhari didn't need their support they needed him he has float a party on his own b4 and get 12m votes outside all the propaganda, power of incumbency, military, huge politicians, good party struture, lies of poor background, money e.t.C gej only got 10m ahead of him. So buhari is popular on his own with a good party structure, support from few big politicians, nigerians who are feed up with gej, monetary support e.T.C i can see why jonothing is scared

About the statistics, It is expected that the majority of Jona's 2011 votes from the South West would go to Buhari to clinch that victory. Jona got 2.8 million votes from the SW.

Can there be a Buhari victory if all the votes Jona got in 2011 in the SW went to Buhari, even including those of Ribadu? I think we'll still have a deficit of over 6 million or there about?

atlwireles:
Not by deltans, just the usual suspects, suffering from inferiority complex. Senator Okowa will never associate himself with any of them.

You're dead wrong. Being ethnic conscious is a way of life in Nigeria; it's superiority complex. little wonder the Hausa Fulani is producing all the three major contenders in APC. The implication of what happened in Delta is beyond Ifeanyi himself. It is a seismic shift. Therefore, whether Ifeanyi alias EKWUEME will "associate" or not is immaterial to the bigger picture.

Even the Edwin Clarks, Junaid Mohammeds, Urhrobos, Yorubas, Hausa Fulanis and the rest of Nigeria are not oblivious of Ifeanyichukwu's identity. So, leave matter for Theresa.

BinghiNya:
did you call ojukwu field marshall, field marshalls don't run away in skirt and wrapper

Yes, he was in the FIELD even though he was the head of state of Biafra. Yes, he was a Marshall of the Field. Ojukwu remains the only man in history who was a combatant and Head of State at the same time. His repulsion of the Nigerian forces at Oguta was ruthless and historic.

For the "skirt" and "wrapper" "Generals": they were those who relaxed on the sofas of Dodan Barracks issuing instructions, Yakubu Gowon, one of them. Go ask.

Awolowo, for that matter, was even angry that your Yakubu Gowon refused to visit his soldiers fighting in the battle field. Even for once.

The late Field Marshall Odumegwu Ojukwu once said that Ndigbo do not forget those who fought for them. Once again, Stella Oduah has been rewarded by Ndigbo for her doggedness in realizing the Akanu Ibiam International Airport for the South East. It would have been a big mockery if this had not happened. Stella makes things happen.

Ndibeanyi dalunu oo! She will surely win the final race.

OboloMAN:
Pazienza Obolo/Andoni means the same thing.
I am First an Obolo man under The IJAW great Nation.
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Ndigbo Man please stay out of Rivers politics and stop branding Opobo,bonny or any other Ijaw clan as Igbo Land.
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This thread is about Dakuku not Ndigbo.

"Opobo people have their roots in Igboland as the founder and first king of the Kingdom is an Igbo man. Hence Opobos are Igbo...."

That was the unequivocal statement of Hon. Dakuku Peterside, Igbo Unity Rally at Elekahia stadium, PH, 21/4/2014.
http://nigeriamasterweb.com/blog/index.php/2014/04/21/2015-ndigbo-join-presidential-race-as-ndigbo-in-rivers-state-restates-there-igboness

Therefore, this thread is more Igbo than you'd ever realize.

"The profound and generalised resentment of Nigeria against Biafra together with the will of domination of some nations jeopardise the future of Biafrans and threaten to destroy the glorious Ibo tribes, descendants of those men who contributed to the founding of the Haitian homeland"

--Statement of Dr. Francois Duvalier, President of Haiti, on the Recognition of Biafra as a Sovereign State (22 March 1969)

http://thepublicarchive.com/?p=2171

waternogetemeny:
Again u see where u go wrong? Nsibidi did originate amongst the Ejagham people of the northern Cross River region.

Prove how the Ejagham people now equal Efik/Ibibio?

As Mr 'intellectual' has refused to read what the Op wrote in respect of the ethnic groups and nsibidi, let him answer your question on Ejegham and their sudden equality with Efik-Ibibio. We are following the discussion.

Chiwude:
Yes of course. Bonny had indigenous Igbos at that time and also imported Igbo slaves. The indigenous Igbos even owned imported hinterland Igbo slaves. But we cannot really tell which Igbo lineage they originated from. Yet, it is wise to assume Ndoki. We can also assume they arrive the same period as Okpara Asimini (Ndoli). The Ibani history made mention of a certain Ottam people as the aborigines of Bonny. It was also recognised that the Nwaotam masquerade had its origin from the Ottam people.

http://www.opobiansindiaspora.org/opobo--culture.html

I perused the Ibani website in the past, but didn’t assimilate the Ottam angle of the history, I must admit.

One could see why the modern Ijaw had always insisted that the Igbo people of Ndoki were ancestrally Ijaw. It appears to be the only way to achieve a wholesome Ijaw Bonny history as the documented Ibani account of the Ottam people would have gone contrary to any other assertions. Many people were surprised when an educated Ibani son like Hon. Dakuku Peterside said he's Igbo. Bonny/Ibani history is much deeper than most people think. Thanks for the link.

Op, what's your mission? I believe this topic has been dealt with here. If you really want to know the correct version of Onicha Mmili history, the second paragraph of the lead story is what it should be. Read that second paragraph very well, make a research on the origins of that deity then come back. I bet it will be a teachable moment for you.

Yes, the Edos are correct, they share no cultural origins with Onicha people.

Stevnwgw is very much correct but in the absence of that Ndigbo should invoke the gifted self-help ability they're known for to tackle the problem. Just as Energito rightly suggested. Even at that, the powers that have continued to block such an infrastructure in the SE might still find a way to frustrate it. It's worth trying sha. Even as the proposed location in Abia state is less nautical miles to the sea than Port Harcourt.

It's looking real that Jonathan might run away with all the promises made to our people.

It shouldn't bother you then. Try to move on with your dear life. Come to think of it, what is the life span of an average human being to warrant thinking of coming from here or there? Worse still, when death comes, the dead does not know whether he was Awori, Igbo or Hausa. Anywhere one is living and decide to make it his home should be ideal. If you bought/own the land, it's your own and will be passed to your descendants at time of death whether indigene or no indigene. Does that make any sense to you?

Radoillo:
Now that we are on this subject, I was looking for information on Ngwa-Bonny relations online. I have previously heard vague remarks about Ngwa playing some role in the founding of Bonny. During my search, I stumbled on a Nairaland thread. It appears you had written something on that. I was unable to read it though. Apparently it had been taken down from Scribd (or was it ResearchGate?).

Do you mind going over some of the issues you discussed in that write-up? I'm really interested.

I Googled and found this piece on Ngwa-Bonny relations by ChinenyeN. Very interesting.

According to Ngwa traditions, an Ngwa man remembered as Okobo had two sons, recollected as Agba (said to be short for Agbayiegbe) and Okwuleze. Agba was a known hunter, and it is said that one day he headed toward the coast, on a hunting expedition. He returned days later to report that he came across a place with lots of birds, most notably curlew (Igoro-omirima, Igoloma, Ugoloma, depending on where in Ngwa/Ndoki one is from). Agba and some members of his family and some of his kinsmen later on then decided to migrate over and settle there. Some of Agba's family members though (being some sons, his brother [Okwuleze] and his [Okwuleze's] family), and other kinsmen didn't migrate, and instead remained where they were, at what is now known as Umuagbayi (Umu Abayi in Rivers State). Ijo people though, say Alagbariye was from Central Delta and that his name is Ijo. *shrug*

Now, here are some interesting things to note (and also infer)

#1. Umuagbayi traditions are silent about Ijo contact. They don't speak of any Ijo migration.

#2. G.I. Jones, the European man who did the most thorough work on the various groups/clans in the area, also notes similar, by stating: Both Ijo and Ibo traditions are silent about any contact between the two groups, apart from the Azuogo Ndokki, and Kalabari legends. - Trading States of the Oil Rivers

#3. Bonny traditions on migration route admit to Ijo coming in contact with already established Ngwa (Igbo) in what is now Ndoki, some of whom they then traveled with to Bonny.

#4. Referencing #'s 2 & 3 above, and in correlating Ijo and Ngwa accounts, we can see that Ijo migrants likely came in contact with Agba [Agbayiegbe] and co. (who were likely already en route toward the place with lots of curlew [Igoro-omirima] birds) and likewise joined them.

#5. No one seems to know the meaning of Alagbariye (or if they know, they aren't saying), but one thing that's interesting to note is that in Bonny/Ijo traditions, Alagbariye is said to be a prominent hunter (confirmation to Umuagbayi-Ngwa traditions) and a chief, and interestingly enough, "chief" in Ijo is ala (chief/leader).

#6. Seeing as to how the meaning or history behind Alagbariye's name is more or less unknown to the Ijo, and noting that the Ijo expression for "chief/leader" is ala, we can likely infer that the Ijo, in coming into contact with Agbayiegbe and co., must have referred to Agbayiegbe as Ala Agbayiegbe (chief/leader Agbayiegbe), as he is indeed the one who was leading the migration toward Bonny (as oral traditions recount), and as Bonny and Ngwa oral traditions further state, he became the chief/clan-head once the migrants settled at Bonny; the founder.

#7. Overtime, there maybe could have been either a corruption in speech (as there typically tends to be in things like this) and/or some error in transcription when Europeans recorded the oral accounts of the natives (as we are all familiar with, i.e. Sirie [Siriye], Onitsha [Onicha], Okrika [Wakrike], Bonny [Ubani/Ibani], etc.), which is likely responsible for Ala Agbayiegbe (chief/leader Agbayiegbe) being either eventually spoken as Ala-Agbariye and/or eventually recorded variously by Europeans as Alagbariye, Alagbara, Alagba-n-ye. Both [the speech corruption and the European transcriptions] seem equally likely.

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So, basically, attempts to match Bonny/Ijo and Ngwa oral traditions seems to indicate that Alagbariye (Ala-Agbayiegbe) was an Ngwa man, as Bonny oral tradition says.
https://www.nairaland.com/500126/true-extent-alaigbo-igboland/62

Chiwude:
This is why I say that the true history of the Ibanis have not been given an holistic study. Are you aware that there was an agenda post 1969 to wipe away any Igbo trace in the Niger-Delta. These plans have been going on for almost five decades since the end of the civil war. Currently, it is true that some persons have crafted history by severing the Igbo ties of the Ibani people. We now hear that Okpara Ndoli or Asimini was'nt Igbo but Ijaw. That this man who founded the Bonny monarchy and also cemented the Ottam cultural practice in the Kingdom was actually an Ijaw leader who on his migration from Nembe country founded not only Ibani, but Ndoki land. And that the Ndoki's were originally Ijaws before they were suddenly Igbonized by their hinterland neighbours. To them, every clan who inhabits the sea (east of the Niger) are Ijaws. And that communities in these areas with pockets of Igbo culture and language became Igbonized when the Igbos took charge of the Eastern region. All these and more, have been the gospel we've been hearing all these years.

Yes, part of the grand design to severe the Igbo ties is not unconnected with the long kingship tussle that greeted Opobo at the demise of her last Amanyanabo. As we all know, there was a gang up by some chieftaincy houses of Ijaw origins in Opobo to unseat the Jajas. But after 30 years of legal battle, the Nigerian Supreme Court, on the 23rd of April, 2003, ruled that “Opobo is not a traditional town as we know it. It is a Settlement founded by King Jaja, and remains his estate and that of his descendants” Led by the legal giant, the late Chief G.C.M Onyiuke (SAN), the Jajas' authority over Opobo was permanently signed and sealed.

It was after the landmark ruling that the family established a foundation in honor of their patriach and quickly appointed Anyim Pius Anyim, the then Senate President, as the life Chairman. Thus, the success or otherwise of de-tonguing Opobo - from Igbo to Ijoid Ibani - will largely depend on the acceptance of the Jaja dynasty. Opobo was founded on Igbo language. And King Dandeson Douglas Jaja, the man I saw at Peter Obi’s farewell gathering at Awka, does not appear like someone who would play with history and tradition.

Opobo is one settlement that will be difficult for revisionists to undo as all documents signed by King Jaja himself on behalf of his estate were well secured. And which helped the surviving off-springs reclaim their father’s settlement in the Supreme Court. Therefore, it is only the Jaja family that can determine the cultural identity of Opobo.

In August 2014, at the Elekahia Stadium, Port Harcourt, Hon. Dakuku Peterside representing Opobo told the “unification” gathering of Ohaneze Ndigbo that “I’m a full blooded Igboman….My town, Opobo, was founded by an Igbo, the mighty King Jaja...”

Believe population statistics in Nigeria and you'll believe anything. Population is something one can't hide easily but in Nigeria. Thus, look around you and you'll see which group is more visible. That's the first indication. It's about human beings and not ghosts.

Therefore, include ethnicity in the census questionaire and you'll know for certain the population of each group, and not this stupid and politically ridden statistics being thrown round to garner Niger delta oil money. Nonsense and ingredients!!!!

I've seen them. Ogu Biafra mesiri Ndigbo ike!
Good night

Chiwude:
You made a big point. Even in the Ibani history Okpara Ndoli or Azumini(Asimini) as he was called was a revered leader of the Bonny people. But, in most Ijo website it was said he migrated to Ndokiland from Western Ijo precisely around Nembe area. The striking fact was that his Igbo name wasn't replaced by an Ijoid identity. According to Legends the Bonny Kingship system owe its existence to him. In other words, he was the first Amayanabo of Bonny.

The Ngwa migration into Bonny was at about the time the Ijaw chronicled the founding of the Island, viz 14th century. The commencement of slave trade and Bonny being an export port of Igbo slaves, could have blunted the presence of Ngwa Igbos on the island.

This said, it’s also reasonable to ask why Okpara Ndoli took instead the title of Amanyanabo. On the other hand, we may never know whether the ‘Opara’ was actually the kingship title Opara Ndoli held.

As it is also difficult to ascertain when ‘Amanyanabo’ title came into existence in the emerging Bonny order than the guess work which has has become the official stand of the kingdom. However, it would be safe to say that there were two groups of Igbo speakers in Bonny at the time. Slaves/freed slaves and those of Ngwa lineage.

You made a plausible hypothesis on the name 'Ubani'. You may want to visit Ngwasocialclub.org

Chiwude:
It appears you misunderstood what I wrote up there. The people in the Igboland hinterland who are closely related to the Igbani (Bonny-Opobo) are the Ndokis, both ancestrally, culturally and linguistically. It is believed that the founders of Bonny originated from Ndoki. Historically, the man who introduce Kingship dynasty in Bonny went by the name Azumini (Asimini). However, there is no Ngwa angle to Bonny. The relationship the Igbani's have with parts of Igboland (Ngwa inclusive) stems from Marital relationship.

No, I understood your points quite well in that post especially in the aspect of marriage prohibition. That was why I put across the kind of questions any curious mind would like to get answers to.

The history of Bonny as they relate to the Igbo hinterland is a different issue which I’m very much interested in. Most Ngwa will dispute the assertion that their history in Bonny was as a result of marital relationship. They’re of the opinion that Opara Ndoli or Opara Azumini was an Ngwa leader. This said, the Azumini website of Abia state has an opinion on this; that Opara Ndoli’s real name was Asikunuma and an Ijaw leader.

So, In the first place, how did he acquire the name Opara Ndoli that later became an artificial one?
As we all know, oral tradition is subject to embellishment. And which side are we to believe?
Another thing striking to me is the prevalence of the name ‘Ubani’ amongst the Ngwa in Abia state.

Chiwude:
It is not as if it is forbidden to marry from other tribes. But it's like they have gotten used to the idea of marrying from the Igbo hinterlands. Imagine for instance a family whereby the grand mother is Igbo, your mum too is Igbo and stuffs like that. I think the people of Bonny marry Igbo women deliberately. Maybe, they see it as a way of sustaining their native Igbo language, their culinary pattern and parental upbringing and so on.

Okay oo, It’s just that you wrote it’s a ‘taboo’.
I just want to know more about the Ngwa angle to all this Bonny wahalla. I have Ngwa friends that’ll swear their history in Bonny is not that of slavery but co-founders. Hope someone will shade more light on that.

Radoillo:
If this is undiluted Opobo, then I don't think it is at all different from the Igbo one would hear in the major cities throughout southern Igboland (SCI). That on its own is enough reason to be suspicious of its undiluted Opobo-ness. Is there any explanation for why he kept saying 'm' for 'me/I' instead of the characteristic Ndoki/Igbani 'ikem'? I thought that was a bit odd.

I thought there is no need to put a spin on this one.

How else could one get the feel of the Opobo tongue than from an illiterate, untravelled and poor old Mr. John West Africa, in his dilapidated Opobo country home? Like I said, his dialect is the same with those Opobians that I know.