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@tpia,

u sure are good at twisting things. when I mentioned my first contact with christians, I made it clear to you it was in my Muslim school and the point I was trying to make is the tolerance Muslims have for christians and that despite being a Muslim school, they were never forced to pray solaat with us.
I further went on to explain to u dat it ddnt mean that I never saw xtians but they were the first who brought our differences to my consciousness.

If that to u means I want a shariah state where d few christians I know wouldnt av a chance 4 survival, So, be it. Believe whatever u may, ur cross to bear.

davidylan:
you produce most of the southwest governors and yet you grumble about being "under-represented" in other places that matter? how? Who is holding you back?

This article is puerile and makes a mockery of our educational system that a so-called university lecturer can be credited with such asinine and dishonest comments. Deols quite frankly frightens me, this woman would think nothing of killing christians to bring about her muslim utopia in the southwest. God help us.

I av always known I do frighten you. I can always feel how much I intimidate u. But, know you that I do not support any form of violence against any1.

hmmmn!

i dont get emotional here o, I assure u. D word despise is for real, meaning I truly dont like dat statement. the 'hate' is to express i know a better word for it, but decided to use d milder one.

I wish every1 wldnt think its about maclatunji(for God's sake I dont sulk in d real world let alone keep malice). Many of us are only virtual to each other.I would av told any1 same.

May Allah forgive his sins and grant him jannah (Amin)

[quote author=Missy_B link=topic=836628.msg9876839#msg9876839 date=1325454722]'Wara' does not ring a bell. Some of us will need you to describe it or post a photo, if possible.[/quote]Yh it is like cheese bu definitely definitely tastes different. It is made from fresh cow milk(all i knew about it)

labalaba:
Wara is not something you can make yourself, you need fresh ingredients. freshly squeezed cow milk and a certain tree leaf "bomubomu" are critical. Try American cottage cheese or soy milk wara for close substitute.

thank you!

[quote author=Jenifa_ link=topic=836628.msg9896957#msg9896957 date=1325714681]I think you need to move to a rural area or village.
I've never seen it in the city.

it's like cheese but naija style lol[/quote]depends on the city u live in for I av seen it in d city of Ibadan and of Ilorin as well as Abuja!!!!

maclatunji:
Deols, [b]you seem to be trying too hard. [/b]There are some things you will never get a uniform answer for. One of such is the issue of celebrating birthdays. If you like celebrate it (within acceptable boundaries), if you like don't. I would really like to see how someone will tell me that marking the day you were born with prayers and sharing quality time with your family and friends or the less privileged is Haram? I am with olawalebab on this one.

I despise that statement, whatever it means.and I wasnt asking for logic, but answers

zayhal:
On birthday celebration, I'd recommend we get a copy of this book 'Ancient feasts and Modern festivals', can't remember the author now.

On xmas and new year wishes, I think I've been rather lucky. When someone tells me 'merry xmas' or 'happy new year', I just cover up by saying something else that's nice to the person, like commenting on how radiant they look or how good their dress is or just bring up another talk entirely. I've been doing this a lot and so far it's been working for me.

I'd like to read that! and lucky you! I hate awkward situations.

Tpia@, u seem to not get d point of this discussion. A man probably claims southern Muslims dont respond to national issues. The writer, Dr. Akintola responds disproving that. So, in essence, he is saying Muslims do respond. I do too, @least on my FB wall and sometimes on NL.But not without some constraints, to which he mentions d bias of d media houses.


Now, to ur point on Abiola. he is long gone.and u seem to be mixing politics wv d issue. there are many Yoruba politians who do speak on national issues and the Muslims av produced more governors in the southwest than christians have. But that hasnt change the fact that we are still under represented in other places that matter. we are working towards changing that and it will happen IA.

Logic Mind:
I pity for muslims. Chained inside an ignorant religion full of illiterate imams and mullahs interpreting 1000s years old bablings of an illiterate.

ehyaaa, y choose a name dat is a tptal opposite of u. makes u look like an

I av always thought that the word celebrity needs a redefinition. what have this pple done to deserve the status the media av put them.

Many hardworking Nigerians who do a lot to help people around them do not get as much coverage as these pple whose only access to fortune is the ability to make believe on screens coupled with controversial lifestyles.

phartye:
I seek refuge in Allah from every wrongs and fallacies dat U've said above, whether mistakingly or intentionally, those dat U've reveal and as well conceal. U've no right to utter things against people unless U've concrete & verifyable proofs, rather fear d fire! I pray Allah rectify our shortcomings and make us better Muslims. Amen. Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w) has spoken saying the only saved muslims on d day of judgement are those, who are upon what he and his companions are upon. My question for is are the Ahmadiyyah upon what the Prophet(s.a.w) and his companions(r.a) are upon? With evidences!

very good response uv given.

A response would make me realise u are following

2.Standing in Prayer

He (sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam) used to stand in prayer for both obligatory and voluntary prayers,
carrying out the command of the Exalted:


"And stand before Allaah devoutly." (Baqarah, 2:238).

As for during a journey, he would pray voluntary prayers on his riding beast. He set the example for his ummah to pray during severe fear on foot or while mounted, as has been mentioned, and that is the purpose of the saying of Allaah:
"Guard strictly your (habit of) prayers, especially the Middle Prayer, and stand before Allaah devoutly. If you fear (an enemy) then pray on foot, or while riding. But when you are in security, celebrate Allaah's praises in the manner He has taught you, which you did not know before."
(Baqarah, 2:238-9)

He (sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam) prayed sitting during the illness of which he died." He also prayed sitting on another occasion before that, when he was injured, and the people behind him prayed standing; so he indicated to them to sit, so they sat (and prayed). When he finished, he said,
You were going to do as the Persians and the Romans do: stand for their kings who sit. So do not do so, for the Imaam is there to be followed: when he makes rukoo', make rukoo', when he rises, rise; and when he prays sitting, pray sitting [all of you].

The Prayer of a Sick Person in a Sitting Position
'Imran ibn Husain (radiallaahu 'anhu) said, "I was suffering from haemorrhoids (piles), so I asked the Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam) and he said, Pray standing; if you are not able, then sitting down; if you are not able to do so, then pray lying down.

'Imraan ibn Husain also said, "I asked him (sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam) about the prayer of a man while sitting, so he said: He who prays standing, that is better; he who prays sitting, his reward is half that of the former. He who prays lying down (and in another narration: reclining), has half the
reward of the one who sits.This applies to the sick person, for Anas (radiallaahu 'anhu) said, "The Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam) came out to the people while they were praying sitting due to illness, so he said: Verily, the prayer of one who sits is (worth) half of the prayer of the one who stands.

Once "he (sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam) visited a sick person and saw him praying (leaning) on a pillow, so he took it and cast it aside. So the man took a stick to pray (leaning) on it, but he took it and cast it aside and said: Pray on the ground if you can, but otherwise make movements with your
head, making your sujood lower than your rukoo."

Prayer on a Ship
He (sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam) was asked about prayer on a ship, so he said, Pray on it standing, unless you are afraid of drowning.When he grew old he took a support at his place of prayer to lean on.

Sitting and Standing in the Night Prayer (Tahajjud)

He (sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam), used to pray long through the night standing, and long through the night sitting, and if he recited standing, he would bow standing, and if he recited sitting, he would bow sitting.

Sometimes, "He would pray sitting, so he would recite sitting until about thirty or forty verses of his recitation were[size=15pt] left[/size]( ); he would then stand up to recite these standing and then bow and prostrate, and he would do likewise in the second raka'ah."
In fact, "he prayed as-subhah sitting down towards the end of his life when he had grown old, and that was a year before his death."
Also "he would sit cross-legged."

Prayer Wearing Shoes and the command to do so
"He used to stand (in prayer) bare-footed sometimes and wearing shoes sometimes." He allowed this for his ummah, saying: When one of you prays, he should wear his shoes or take them off and put them between his feet, and not harm others with them.

He encouraged prayer wearing them sometimes, saying: Be different from the Jews, for they do not pray in their shoes nor in their khuffs (leather socks).
Occasionally he would remove them from his feet while in prayer and then continue his prayer, as Abu Sa'eed al-Khudri has said:
"The Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam) prayed with us one day. Whilst he was engaged in the prayer he took off his shoes and placed them on his left. When the people saw this, they took off their shoes. When he finished his prayer he said, Why did you take your shoes off?
They said, 'We saw you taking your shoes off, so we took our shoes off.' He said, Verily Jibreel came to me and informed me that there was dirt - or he said: something harmful - (in another narration:filth)on my shoes, so I took them off. Therefore, when one of you goes to the mosque, he should look at his shoes: if he sees in them dirt - or he said: something harmful - (in another narration: filth) he should wipe them and pray in them.

"When he removed them, he would place them on his left" and he would also say: When one of you prays, he should not place his shoes on his right nor on his left, where they will be on someone else's right, except if there is no one on his left, but he should place them between his feet.
Prayer on the Pulpit (Minbar)

"Once he (sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam) prayed on the pulpit (in another narration: ', which had three steps'). Hence [he stood on it and said takbeer and the people behind him said takbeer while he was on the pulpit,] [then he made rukoo' on the pulpit,] then he rose and descended backwards to make sajdah at the foot of the pulpit. Then he returned, [and did on it as he had done in the first rak'ah], until he completed his prayer. He then turned to the people and said: O people! I have done this so that you may follow me and learn my prayer.

thanks azharrudin, but dat scholar didnt address my point. not every1 uses candles and Islam does allow for rest sometimes. is wishing halal or not??

I like to base my belief on proofs without which, i do not act nor condemn. I started to wonder if wishing is alright when I read that the sahabas used to give wishes during anniversaries(expressing occassions that are neither of the two eids) and to me, birthdays fall to that category. I since then wanted to know if saying the wishes is right or wrong.

may Allah guide us aright.

IbroSaunks:
do you celebrate your birthdays?

I never had d conventional birthday But I do a thing or two to mark it. I really wld stop if I am convinced it is haram.But we seem to measure how significant we are to pple if they can remember our birthdays at least. I do care about such things as pple remembering it was my exams day and calling to c how it was. And I reciprocate that too.

olawalebab:
Let me contribute my quota to the birthday issue.
Celebrating birthday by inviting friends and family in a ceremonious way is not islamic neither is islam against it, so it is more of a personal thing than religious. in that respect, why can the celebrant celebrate the day by putting smiles on the faces of people especially the less privilege, building a clinic (islamic) to cater for the various health needs of the ummah to me is better than lavishly celebrating Birthday.

dats like celebrating/marking it. But depending on how u do it, a lot of meaning can be read to it. Imagine that ur day is a way of bringing ur kith and kins together. I think dats just as good as doing somethn for the poor or even better. the point is still, is marking or celebrating it haram or the wishes?? and what proof is there to support your claim.

this is one scholar speaking. may Allah bless him. Now, someone might start asking what the Muslims are doing or have been doing.

olawalebab:
The Mallams and mallama, pls explain the concept of bah'di and qab'bi.

let us take it step by step. we will get to dat IA.

Muslims are truly marginalised in the south and Until we take our future into our own hands, things like this will continue to happen.

Imagine that we have muslims owning newspaper corporations or as editors?? the story would surely be different.

Let muslims do better economically. that is what it takes actually. a yoruba proverb says,omo ti owo e o ba ti kan eku ida. . .

kudos to Dr Akintola. I have read some of his posts not only on Nigeria issues but on global ones too. may Allah continue to guide him aright.[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=837450.msg9883858#msg9883858 date=1325556099]come, come, come,


gani fawehinmi was muslim.

what is all this? [/quote]yh! Gani Fawehinmi was a Muslim but was he speaking from Islamic perspectives. You should cool down sometimes madam. this isnt a war zone

IbroSaunks:
The point is: i'm not saying "I wish you the same", i'm saying "same"! So they think i'm greeting them, but i'm only saying the word "same" ;DSome

hmmmn! I like ur style o!!!

I wldnt want LagosShia as d mod considering the controversies surrounding his posts. I think maclatunji would do really well. but, he claims to be busy.I go for IbroSaunks or Olawalebabs

thanks brother. Amin

anyways, am more concerned about birthdays. should they be celebrated?? is it allowed to make wishes only if d celebrations are not done or both are outrightly haram

some ignorant people claim Muslims worship the kaabah because it is d direction we face while worshipping. The above ahadith prove them wrong.

The initial Qibla is bait al Muqaddas. would there have been a change in god if d kaabah is what we worship??. Also, the kaaba once fell and the Muslims continued to pray in that direction.this shows that the kaaba isnt the thing we worship But our axns are only a reflection of our obedience to our creator(The All knowing, all-wise) 

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This was the "Usmani rule" and Sultan Murad Khan was the ruler. After taking the necessary Fatawa he started the reconstruction of the holy Kaba. The Kaba was rebuilt on the Zubairi foundation as it was still strong, but no change was made in the shape and dimensions. The stones for construction of the Kaba were taken from a mountain of Makkah which was known as Jabal a Shubaikah but afterwards this mountain became famous as Jabal a Kaba. [/color] >>> http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Wxu7SKxySpMJ:tungekar.com/holykaaba.html+kaaba+fell&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=firefox-a

@Ibrosaunks, when you tell them same, u av said what u arent supposed to say. U av wished them what u dont blv in and dats xactly wat i was avoiding.

@maclatunji, sometimes u av to let pple understand what u blv in. If we are to continually avoid d hostile situations, we would be gradually accumulating sins. Am not judging ur situation but it is how i c it generally. It wld surprise me for eg if an old male classmate see me in d future and offers me a handshake. i had allowed myself face d hostile situation and later on, it sure wldnt be a problem cos evry1 wld av bn aware, 'she doesnt shake men'

Hello,

wara is sold mostly by fulanis and I love it soooooooooo much. I'd like anyone who knows how to prepare it to pls tell me about it.

thanks in advance

lahips:
DEBONAIRS PIZZA IN LAGOS, YOU WILL LICK YOUR FINGER AFTER EATING THEIR PIZZA, MY FAVOURITE IS "SOMETHING MEATY".

hmmmmmmmmn I love debonairs pizza. I av only eaten them outside of nija though. .good to know they are in Nigeria. somthn meaty is my fav too

people tell me happy new year or complements of the season. I really dont know how to reply them So I come up with - thank you. Hilariously, I have heard that a one time olubadan would say, a ki n dupe ara eni as a response.

that isnt the point am trying to make. But I wouldnt mind u telling me a better reply for next time.

In Islam, our festivities are known- Eid l adha and Eid l fitr. any other one is 0verboard and to be avoided, crossing xmas, new year celebrations and their likes out!

Many pple however do not celebrate these but see nothing wrong in saying the wishes. With christmas and new year, we obviously shouldnt be

making wishes But, what about birthdays(even if we are not celebrating them) but only marking them.

let us discuss this pls.

[quote author=aloy@emeka link=topic=797521.msg9494881#msg9494881 date=1320612877]At least you absolved Christianity from complicity. It means that some of the people who claim to be Christians promote iniquity just like some muslims like Abacha, Abiola, Tafa Balogun, Arisekola Alao, Adedibu, etc promoted iniquity in Nigeria even though they are/were staunch muslims. So why blame Christianity because of the iniquities of hypocrites?.[/quote]Did Aloy/EMeka talk of not blaming christianity because of some hypocrites?? oh! and u keep blaming Islam for the axn of some Muslims. I stopped being interested in arguments wv pple like u when i realised ur aim is always to tarnish d image of Islam and not for not being able to decipher all that w'v bn passing across. I am making it clear again,

you and you alone would be questioned/responsible for your own deeds.

@ Uplawal, u need to understand dat d message sent to each prophet is different and their manner of worship was different too. The act of tolerance of the Prophet(PBUH) wasnt only to the christians. The jews of madinnah enjoyed such too until they started to rebel.

On a particular expedition, the prophet ordered the people not to destroy the churches nor attack the monks in the area. You would understand better when you see suratul kafirun. it shows we can leave them to their religion and face ours.

Also,the killings here arent justified at all. It is not on a battle field nor is there a declaration of war. Muslims are killed too, women , children, unarmed men.

Allahu a'lam

crap.

^^thanks for pointing it out.I'll edit it soon IA

can ds thread die a natural one pls

ok!

bhusayor:
Looking forward to the thread deols,

here it is - https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-836271.0.html#msg9871913