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lol @ Christian God..

Ipobs don carry hate, anger and bitterness to another level.


Obviously, you ipobs have your own hate mongering, bitter, angry, sadistic and bigoted god in your ipobitch village.

senatorizyking:
It's now official, Nigeria is a Zoo Republic...

And who are the animals in the zoo since all zoos have animals?

If you do believe Nigeria is a zoo, it means you and yours are animals in the same zoo.

Thanks for letting us know you are an animal.

connectpoint:
Buhari isn/t coming back.. It's hi-time you guys told yourselves the obvious

Do you have a crystal ball that you see from or you are his doctor and you know all about his medical condition or you are just the same village garden and generic variety ipobitch spewing your usual hate and bitter rubbish on NL. ?

I do believe you are the last part.

obonujoker:
What do you gain by supporting corruption??

You mean Nigerians exercising their constitutional rights is corruption?


Obviously, you are mentally warped, mentally corrupt, ignorant and unintelligent.

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TijaniAbu:
Remi is from Delta State, occupying Lagos State slot. Lagos will recall her, and Delta should come and carry the looting druglord's wife. Rubbish

obonujoker:
lolsss... supporter of corruption...

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You ignorant and unintelligent jokers can not make any kind of sane and rational sense.

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Desyner:
You are not serious. Continuing what the former minister started is no big deal.

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Reading and comprehension should be your primary objective at the moment.

obonujoker:
Let's recall Remi Tinubu first before we start with Saraki, coz I don't know what she is doing at the senate...

She's not from your village and you are not her constituent so , you can not recall her, only her constituents can and so fa, they are ok with her work in the senate.


Worry about the useless ones in your village.

Guestlander:
That is not Tokyo though. I only mentioned the Tokyo drainage system as applicable to Lagos. I didn't mention some random town in Japan.

I don't remember quoting you or equating that post with your Tokyo post. I moved on.

Houses are collapsed and half-buried in the mud following the flooding caused by heavy rain in Asakura, Fukuoka prefecture, southwestern Japan, Friday, July 7, 2017. Heavy rain warnings were in effect for much of the southern main island of Kyushu after Typhoon Nanmadol swept across Japan earlier in the week. (Koji Harada/Kyodo News via AP)

Btw, this is Japan last Friday or 2 days ago.



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Guestlander:
You are obviously not an engineer. This problem has already been solved by the Japanese in Tokyo, the only problem is that the system is expensive.

https://www.google.ca/amp/gizmodo.com/tokyo-has-the-largest-underground-water-tank-in-the-wor-1696967098/amp

So, the U.S. Corps of Engineers and Harris County Flood Control District prescribed water retention basins know nothing about engineering even though they have some of the best engineers in the world.

Please slow down on the rhetoric.

1. What problem was solved and what's been an engineer got to do with what I stated and what you posted about Japan?

2. What I stated about the need for water retention in Lagos and how they are also using water retention basis in the UD is the same thing you just posted about Japan.

3. Japan is nit doing anything new and they did not solve any unknown solution because the solution is the same thing and its called water retention.

Water retention basins stores rain water that can not flow easily into the river, sea or bayous and it's done by digging basins or reservoirs to collect water and later release the water into the river, sea, lagoon or bayous when eventually their levels subside.

4. Japan is doing the same thing by building underground water retention system to collect rain water and pump the water into EDO river later.

The underground construction, comprising vertical shafts to store floodwater

http://web-japan.org/trends/11_tech-life/tec130312.html

The fact that Japan can afford expensive waster retention system doesn't mean water retention is a new discovery, they just have money to spend on their own retention system.

You can dig a retention basin and achieve the same objective with less money and it's still water retention regardless how it's done.


Read your own article and look for water storage, it's still the same thing.

ojobekehinde:
You hate truth or you dey vex because i compared saraki with tinubu,i pity you.

Who cares who you compare them to? You can compare them to whatever your ignorant heart desire and you can yell Tinubu for the rest of your life, but you can not tell us it's not their constitutional rights to recall their elected officials if they are not representing them properly.


They are using their constitutional power to address their own local issues while you sit on NL shouting names of politicians as if they are your father or they pay your bills especially when you have similar clowns in your village you should be recalling..


Pity yourself first before you pity other people.

https://ww1.hdnux.com/photos/45/36/72/9825920/3/920x920.jpg


https://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/45/36/37/9824226/3/920x1240.jpg


Why is this essay more focused on detention than on bigger pipes and ditches, although we need them, too? It is because our bayou-based drainage system is overtaxed. The U.S. Corps of Engineers and Harris County Flood Control District say flow rates into Buffalo Bayou are maxed out. The bayou cannot accept runoff any faster than it already does. That doesn't mean it can't accept more water over time. It can. But detention is needed to slow the rate of discharge and allow more time for the bayou to drain.


http://www.houstonchronicle.com/local/gray-matters/article/Houston-neighborhoods-shouldn-t-be-detention-ponds-7257721.php

This is Houston, USA, a well planned city with good drainage system. What we drain in Lagos goes into the sea or lagoon while theirs goes into the Bayou, but just like us, drainage can not keep up with heavy rain and fast moving water when the Bayou level is high just like us when the sea and lagoon level is high.

Their only solution is water retention ponds to collect and retain rain water till the Bayou water level drops.


This is what we need in Lagos because I don't see any way out, definitely not drainage even though we need to invest in those too.



BTW, I saw a thread on NL with Oyinbo man paddling around inside canoe in Lagos because of flood and people are laughing and acting as if this is unique to us in Nigeria as if such doesn't haven in their own countries when inn fact they go thorough the same thing every rainy season.

anibi9674:
EKO Atlantic white elephant project.

Typical ignorant rubbish.

Guestlander:
This is not a case of ocean surge whereby V.I and surrounding areas are flooded with sea water. The problem here is poor drainage from rainfall. Engineering and money can solve the problem.

It's always easy for the layman without any studies, data, weather or meteorology experience to spew baseless assertions and offer meaningless solutions to what they really know nothing about.

Why not show us the survey data and studies report you based your conclusions on.


What you drain ends up in the sea or lagoon, but with high sea and lagoon water level, water heads inland and pushes what you drain back inland. Drainage works when you have low sea level to properly receive water from the drainage system.


The only solution to me sounds more like building water basin or reservoirs in neighborhoods to collect and retain rain water and release the same rain water into the sea or lagoon when water level drops.

In many cities with the best drainage and city planning, they know drainage can not solve their problem, so they passed laws that mandate new development to construct water retention basin to prevent flood.

No drainage can keep up with too much rain and fast moving water.

Stormwater management and drainage: If levels are higher and storms are stronger, your community will need to be able to hold back higher levels or water… or retain more stormwater before needing to drain it immediately away.

http://asbpa.org/2017/03/28/how-will-you-know-theres-a-sea-level-problem/

Retention ponds

What are retention ponds?

Retention ponds, also known as stormwater retention basins or man-made lakes: store rainfall runoff from streets and adjacent lands are an efficient and cost-effective land drainage system, because fewer and smaller pipes can be used to carry runoff to the rivers benefit our environment by acting as a natural filter – they help to remove sediment and chemicals before the water drains to our rivers
collect only land drainage, and not wastewater from homes or businesses
Is it normal for the water levels in the ponds to fluctuate?

[img]http://2.bp..com/_6NH3EV-Lmoc/TG-71nwKNJI/AAAAAAAABwM/3dXXN6JJBJ4/s1600/RetentionPond.jpg[/img]

http://winnipeg.ca/waterandwaste/drainageFlooding/ponds.stm

Drainage can not save you when you are below sea level, it helps only when you are higher than the sea level.


When you flush your toilet and send poo from your poo drainage or pipes into your septic tank, it flows inside your septic easy, but when your septic tank is full, your tank is full and your poo level high, it means your septic tan can not accept any pore poo and no amount of drainage system can help you, you have to reduce the poo level in your poo tank before draining any poo into it.

Shey you get the gist?

They've been experiencing flood decades before EA, so what's EA got to do with flood?


These endless fake stories are getting out of hand.

ojobekehinde:
Don't mind those jobless youths,they should go and look for job.anybody that bliv this should also bliv that youths in lagos can recall also remi tinubu.The last time i checked,saraki remain king maker in kwara as tinubu is to lagos.

The same youths are his constituents and they have every right to recall him so stop foaming at the mouth shouting kingmaker this and Tinubu that.


They have useless, worthless and incompetent leaders from your village you need to recall too for your own good.

This is what we expect from our leaders.


Well done, Ogbeni Aregbe.

Desyner:
What has he done thats different from what he inherited from the past admin you so much hate? Answer please and stop attacking characters.

I thought I posted that already.

Don't blame other people for your ignorance and inability to read and comprehend simple English words.

Jobless ipobitch villagers of course..

lol @ another ipob village empty and shallow chest beating thread.

ooshinibos:
good report but this should have been done earlier by previous government ...

You are right, they need to do more, but while constructing and expanding the drainage system is good and should be done, emphasis should be placed on inland man mad reservoirs in every neighborhood to receive and store rain water.


Previous admin I'm sure did their best even though not enough...



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allrightsir:
The problem with our country is we have so many educated illiterates. people who lack the capacity for ccritical thinking That you can say that Lagos is below sea level just highlights your lack of common sense.

You ignorantly asserted that Lagos is above the sea level and I provided facts and links that proved you wrong and ignorant while you on the other hand provided nothing to back up your ignorant nonsense, so who is the uneducated illiterate here if not you.

If you are going to argue or dispute other people's claims, do it with documented evidence, facts and credible links, not just running your mouth like a roadside layman with bankrupt mentality.

I asked you before, do you know what sea level is?

Very dumb question I must say.


It's either Lagos is above or below the sea level and your ignorant claim that it's above was just ignorant, redundant and flawed and it's even worse since you are yet to show us factual evidence that Lagos is indeed above the sea level.

You see the lagoon everyday and yet with your education you chosse to beleive Lagos is below sea level just because some faceless person who credentials you dont know tells you Lagos is below sea level.

This has nothing to do with my own education, it's more about your own ignorance and poor intellectual curiosity since the fact that Lagos is below the sea level didn't come from me, it came from local and international weather experts.


See of irrational and illogical you think and formulate your screwed up thoughts?

You know I really hate that I share the same country with ignoramuses like yourself because with people like you the country can never move forward.

You really should hate yourself for beign dumb, ignorant and unwilling to learn to save your own lazy and pathetic life.

common sense 101: water finds it's level and water flows downwards, if lagos were below sea level, you wont need rain for Lagos to be flooded, the sea will come to you

Confronting climate change doom in Lagos



Rising sea levels will increase the frequency or likelihood of extreme sea level events and resultant flooding. The risks to the sea level rise are not confined to the coast itself. In many cases flooding may impact areas some distance from the sea for example along estuaries, rivers, lakes and lagoons.

In July, 2011, Lagos was engulfed by floods precipitated by torrential rainfall of about three weeks to herald the devastating effect of climate change on the city. Hence the need to take precautions even as it is being predicted that West African coastal lines would be submerged by 2099.



Dr. Isaac Ayodele holds a PhD. D.sc degree in Public Health from Atlantic International University, Honolulu, Hawaii, United States. His specialization is in confronting global climate change.

https://guardian.ng/features/science/confronting-climate-change-doom-in-lagos/




So, is Dr Isaac Ayodele, holder of PhD. D.sc degree in Public Health from Atlantic International University, Honolulu, Hawaii, United States. His specialization is in confronting global climate change also an illiterate?


Obviously, you are the dumb, ignorant and pathetic illiterate.

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allrightsir:
You did not answer my issues about drainage and town planning and the fact that all our homes and building are convered in concrete, instead you focused on what I said about Ikoyi.


Like i said use your brain. I also said go to google earth if you really want to know parts that are above or close to sea level.


I really dont have much else to say to to youm you deserve the contempth with which i respond because you are talking like a slowpoke

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Why shouldn't I focus on your lies and ignorance? Do you think I'm here to swallow your lies and ignorance?



If it pains you so much that politicians are not doing enough, then get off your ass and go contest for office and circle the whole of Lagos state with drainage instead of crying on the internet.

allrightsir:
My friend it's not about building, all the ones they built in Lekki are blocked with sand and water hyacinths.. have you seen any that flows?


The one in Lekki is taken over by weeds, the one in osapa same thing.

Please, I've had enough of your baseless and non factual rubbish.


Try not to quote me without facts, pictures or documented evidence.

allrightsir:
ofcourse some areas with poor drainage will be affected

This thing is common sense, you can choose to use it if you have or not. The record amount of rainfall EVER in Nigeria is 600MM in Akwa Ibom and that was took 1 whole month. All the places that got flooded today are all well above sea level. The flood is not die to sea level but drainage.....good night.

Those who want to think will think and those who dont wont. If this flood was a sea level problem the whole of Ikoyi will be flooded because the water surrounding Ikoyi is at sea level.

I really dont hink this deserves more effort on my part, you either get it or you dont

You ran your mouth that Ikoyi doesn't get flooded, but I dispelled that ignorance with facts, not it's some other rubbish.

You've spewed so many baseless, ignorant and fact less rubbish that I've dispelled with documented facts and links, but you are yet to show us anything credible to support your rubbish.

Even asserting that Lagos is above the sea level when in fact it's the other way around per local and international experts and also state government officials shows that you are more than bankrupt regarding this discussion.


What I don't deserve is your meaningless and fact less word of mouth that amounts to nothing but just meaningless talk.

ooshinibos:
I understand what you mean but lets not give the useless Nigerian govt excuse not to do their jobs ..those areas in Dubai , Tokyo etc ..have drainage system , can you imagine what will happen if there was no drainage system ....we are lucky in Nigeria that we don't have this kind of typhoon rains ..the last flood that happened in England, the head of the local council was fired and fined for not making adequate preparation for the flood , will the this ever happen in run down Nigeria

https://akinwunmiambode.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/ON-GOING-CONSTRUCTION-OF-DRAINAGE-CANAL-1024x931.jpg


http://akinwunmiambode.com/lagos-state-government-begins-construction-of-magodo-shangisha-drainage-canal/

While there can never be 100% drainage to combat flooding in any society, even on advanced countries, but suggesting that Lagos state is not doing anything about drainage or not constructing any is just ignorance and flawed assertions.

allrightsir:
BULLSHIT!!!

I dont think you understand what sea level is. Youve heard that saying "water finds it's level"? Next time you are crossing Falomo Bridge, look at the water level....that is the sea level and if Ikoyi that is surrounded by water is not flooded, you cannot use sea level as an excuse for the flooding in Lekki


I also dont think you understand the simple concept that water flows downwards not up and water that cannot flow will accumulate.

High brow, high risk The flooding menace of Lagos’ rich enclaves

Worst hit were many roads leading in and out of Lekki, Victoria Island and Ikoyi, where scores of people were seen wadding through large puddles of water that had taken over different sections of both communities and their roads.


http://tribuneonlineng.com/high-brow-high-risk-%E2%80%A2the-flooding-menace-lagos-rich-enclaves/

It's really not by force to comment.

allrightsir:
absolute nonsense!!!


Please take a look at google earth and see the elevation of most places on the island, you will see that they are on average 2-10m ABOVE sea level.

Elevation: Generally at or below sea level, some parts already under threat

http://www.encyclopedia.com/places/africa/nigeria-political-geography/lagos

Water released from those cold regions now drifts towards warmer regions and cause the ocean level to the rise above the normal.” The implication of this for Lagos, he said, is that “most parts of Lagos State below the sea level are affected. So if we have a sea surge and it is not controlled then we are in trouble.

There is much to fear as Lagos is one of the cities in West Africa adjudged vulnerable to ocean surge.



http://www.informationng.com/2012/10/lagos-may-no-longer-exist-in-50-years-as-a-result-of-climate-change-if-nothing-is-done.html

Lagos is mostly below sea level and when there's any kind of rise in sea level, we surfer the effects with flooding and run offs.

I'll ignore the rest of your post simply because of redundancy and the fact that you started off with flawed and other way around assertions about Lagos state and sea level.

When they talk about rising sea level in Lagos state and even the prediction about Lagos going under water in less than 50 years, it means they are talking about Lagos state being under and not above.


Read up on Lagos state and threats of rising sea level before your next post or come back.

989900:
I think having a number of those in strategic locations will be helpful, the cost implication though, I don't know.

You are right about the cost and implications because implementing this means relocation and compensations, but you save money, property and prevent needless loss of life in the long run.

989900:
Lagos’ surrounding areas are not only unprotected by the wall, but are lower in sea level than Eko Atlantic. It’s a combination that leaves the old city of Lagos and its hundreds of years of history startlingly vulnerable.
If the critics are correct, Eko Atlantic might provide parts of Lagos with yet another link to the sea, one rooted in potential danger and unknowable risk. To the sea parts of the city may return.
“With sea walls, you have to figure out what you’re protecting against,” Dr. Blumberg advised. In the case of Lagos and Eko Atlantic, the better question might be who gets the protection.

We can not drain above into the sea even with the best drainage system because we are below and the sea is above. What we need are dikes, levees and water retention basin like they have in new suburbs say like the US, the reservoirs collects and store rain water which prevent flooding.

A retention basin is used to manage storm water runoff to prevent flooding and downstream erosion


https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7090/7184528667_f0c5a86fe1_b.jpg


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retention_basin

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Every neighborhood in flood prone areas in Lagos should have a retention basin to receive and store rain water.

989900:
Like has been postulated, while Eko Atlantic will likely not be flooded (being a model city and yada, yada, yada), the ripple-effect of the displaced water 'might' be a part of what is unfolding before our eyes.

We've been experiencing flooding in the same area for decades before EA so the EA has little or nothing to do with flooding.

Nukilia:
Nice comment! What do you think is the fate of Eko Atlantic City?

Is Eko Atlantic flooded and have they experienced any kind of flooding so far?


Below is the reason why they haven't and why there won't be.

TESTING THE GREAT WALL

Before the first of the giant concrete armoured blocks for the Great Wall of Lagos was lowered into position, its ability to withstand the worst of the Atlantic tidal surges was put to the test. Urban engineers at DHI, the world-renowned Danish hydraulic research centre, carried out extensive scale model trials. Data analysis by computer models showed that the Great Wall could withstand the worst expected storms over 1,000 years.

http://www.ekoatlantic.com/developing/great-wall-of-lagos/