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eGuerrilla: An armoured Rolls Royce for a republican, surely, has to be height of contradictions, no?

Are you insinuating Nigeria is not a republic? I say unequivocally, armored Rolls Royce for Stella Oduah as a minister in the Republic of Igbo land. In fact, every minister should ride in one of such machines.

eGuerrilla: The view you expressed here, @DerideGull, is patently irresponsible and you know it!

I stand corrected pal. With no pun intended, the service car for Princess Stella Oduah in the Republic of Igbo land would have been an armored Rolls Royce and assembled in the republic too.

eGuerrilla: Not to detract from the wider import of your post, I should point out that Obama's "beast", which is equipped with gadgets like night-vision cameras, pump action shot guns, tear gas canisters, satellite phones, its own oxygen supply, and a fire fighting system, costs around $1.5 million.
It is, however, true that the decoy cars used in his fleet cost can be acquired for the amount you quoted.

Do you mean the junk Cadillac DeVille? The above act is beyond comprehension.

quest55: Does anyone hear gburugburu groaning from his coffin "why, my people got no brains for wisdom" You are as clueless as you sound. May the best President Nigeria Never had give you succor.

There is no doubt you hear the groaning of the dead since you made sarcasm the cornerstone of your idiotic argument.

attehwole: When an Egyptian told me, Nigerians are easily manipulatived and too tribal to develope,i called him a racist.
But here we are ,defending an of savage corporate recklessness,due to our tribal affiliations.Even in the gulf monarchies of the GCC,this act of criminal frivolity would be frowned at.

Above crap is one of the reasons I have relentlessly prayed for disintegration of cesspit called Nigeria. In Republic of Igbo land, the service car for Princess Stella Oduah would have been an armored Rolls Royce.

agbameta: She's definitely transforming with the blood of over 200 dead Nigerians on her hands...


Funny how Tinubu a non government official is always responsible for federal incompetence, corruption and other ills perpetrated by the very people we pay to look after us and keep us safe..

A punkass Nigerian such as you does not deserve pint of air.

KenGali: BMW Security Vehicles only provide used vehicle prices on their website. Brochures for new can only be downloaded on request.

A Used 2006 BMW 760 Li High Security costs €175,000.00 or $239,000.00 Check the BMW link for pre-owned vehicles below
http://www.bmw-security-vehicles.com/security_vehicles/en/_teaserpool_2010/download/shared/pdf/offer_7series_2006.pdf at €175,000 Euros, which is $240,000.00

If the used vehicle cost $240,000.00 dollars, how can Sahara and Dino Melaya claim the new vehicles bought by the Minister of Aviation can be bought for $200,000.00
Who is lying profusely now to deceive the public.

Or let me guess, they could not decipher the difference between a used car and new vehicle.
Please stop peddling lies that you cannot substantiate!

Have you honestly asked yourself the reasons Nigeria is hopelessly behind the development curve? Most Nigerian are regrettably ignorant.

Katsumoto: Stop avoiding the main facts here.

The value of the BMW armored car is no more than $350,000 yet they were acquired for $800,000.

Secondly, the cars were, allegedly, used cars.

I can make bold to say that people who have the same skewed stream of thoughts as you about the purchase of two BMW cars for ministry of aviation are the avoiders. They are political lynchpins spurred by tribal bigotry looking to find fault where one does not exist.

There is no one price for 760iL because there are different shades of 760iL. It is unfortunate that people who have not purchased a tire in their miserable lives have alacritous pedigree to denigrate Stella via free Internet.

The cars do not belong to Princess Stella Oduah. When she is done as minister of aviation, you and ilk can auction them off.

Katsumoto: It is very obvious that you don't really understand the situation.

Let me agree with you that she needs an armored car. The president of the US rides in an armored car that is valued at $300,000. Oduah bought two cars that are valued at $800,000. The cars in question are valued at $350,000 so how did they end up being bought for $800,000? Is that not corruption? Isn't it exacerbated by the fact that Nigerian youths are wasting at home?

When you get your Biafran republic, you must ensure that all ministers and administrators acquire cars worth $1 Billion each and jets worth $2 Billion each.

Considering many children are still starving to death in Nigeria, any official who spends this amount of public funds on such wasting assets will die a miserable death.

Are you comparing a discontinued junk such as Cadillac DeVille with BMW 760 IL? What will be president of USA doing in Cadillac if not for national pride? I can get two brand-new such Cadillac DeVilles for the price of one 760iL in cash.

Even if the minister decides to travel in tricycle, Nigeria will still have hungry fellows. There are still hungry fellows in country such as USA.

utumunta: Well...what can I say?
Ojukwu, during the civil war, was reported to frequent the war-fronts to the extent that Nzeogwu remarked, thus; "if Ojukwu prefers the war-front to the state house, Nzeogwu shall relocate to the state house"
If the title is too much a weight for the President to bear, he should consider looking in my direction.
His excellency, President Utumunta, president and commander-in-chief...
"Fellow Nigerians, I give boko haram three(3) minutes to surrender or be annihilated..." (I have already resumed duties)

A certain comment in the above post is one of those conjectural craps planted by the enemies of Biafra. When and where did Nzeogwu voice such nonsensical concoct credited to him? How long did Nzeogwu spend in war front to time to voice such

babyosisi: He is an Obi

His name is Obi Nkeobikwu Osadume
Of Igbodo Kingdom

The traditional Prime Minister of Igbodo Kingdom is Dr Ifeanyi Unomah,


The president general of IDU worldwide is Chief Peterson Ozili-Chiemeke

A member of the Obi-in-Council, Chief Gilbert Nwaije

And they are not Igbo
Bwahahahahahaha

Nne!! You can add Ikechukwu to the Obi's name too. Some communities have qualified to be recklessly removed from Igbo land.

I do know Nigeria is a wastepipe however to think that a caliber of troll such as Dino Malaye was once a member of House of Representative in Nigeria, seals the fate of the “geographical expression” as in the words of one tribal icon. The documents circulated on this forum in order to support a well designed blackmail against minister of aviation clearly indicated the two BMW cars were bought from Coscharis Motors.

If this overfed demented jackass called Dino Malaye has issues with the prices of the cars, he should contact Coscharis Motors in Lagos Nigeria. It is unfortunate this moronic loafer ran his mouth on the base price of BMW probably obtained from an obscure source.

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[quote author=jas_o]You are a sample of waste product of Nigeria. Your utterances here represent what you stood for which I never doubt but my concern is for you to not infect this disease on the rest. I can't help my mood when i read some shit watering out from mouths of amateur citizens of this country. This man bolded act and your sit-down look president provides a clue on the outcome of NC. He's going to still bow to pressure when its time to implement the issue and submission of his kangaroo national dialogue.[/quote]I do not know how you pride your silly self. However one thing is clear punk, I do not give inconsequential hoot about how you blindly see the cesspit called Nigeria. I have dispatched junks such as you in a dirty gutter and never to regard them as compatriots.

Nigeria has bred bunch of fools. It is regrettable that certain cross section of Nigerians has comprehension problem. The crux of the matter is that Obi Nkeobikwu Osadume must marry a lady from Igbodo kingdom not any other Igbo land or Nigerian land for that matter. If the Obi Nkeobikwu Osadume had formerly taken a wife from Agbor instead of Ebony State, the community would have objected because Agbor, though the same Ika, is not part of Igbodo Kingdom.

[quote author=ndu_chucks]I will handle you as usual. You should know by now that you cannot cover up your ignorance with Ogbanje intellectualism when you are chatting with me. It suffices to say here that the 2013 Budget of Aviation ministry revealed that there was no provision for the purchase of cars. About N4.2bn was budgeted for the maintenance of motor vehicles, transport and equipment; N1.2bn for the purchase of trucks and N100m was for staff buses. So if any agency under that ministry such as NCAA needs to make a purchase of such a large sum for security purposes, such request should have been submitted to FEC for approval.

Cut your losses and go away - you are fighting a losing battle hear. If it'll make you feel better, I admire the way you fight for your own, but biko, remember that what is wrong is simply wrong.

BTW: Who is this babe called dbride? I would have written I WANT YOU in admiration but the bride in your handle discouraged me from doing so.[/quote]It is good to see you write in order to expose your ignorance on the subject of protocol. Even a leaner can easily understood you are being economical with the truth or do not know the budget of ministry of aviation. Anybody who knows how departmental budget is being disbursed can deduce that N4.2bn for fleet maintenance can be economized.

I can not pretend to waste my time with you because it appears you have not played the budgetary game.

Katsumoto: This is ethnic parochialism of the highest order and rather shameful I must add.

We can talk about the choice of the brand of cars but it is a matter of infantile irresponsibility to talk of corruption where one does not exist. If NCAA had purchased two Kia or Hyundai cars for the ministry of aviation, should there be any talk of idiotic corruption on the forum?

Katsumoto: It is rather shameful that some Nigerians are defending Oduah simply because they are from the same ethnic group. Kudos to dbride for standing on the righteous path. It is no wonder that Nigeria is the way it is.

I have often said it that Nigerian ethnic groups have different values and it makes no sense for Nigeria to continue to operate in a unitary fashion. Hopefully, Nigeria gets to disintegrate or revert to regionalism so that those who want to spend $1 Billion buying tampons for their ministers can do so.

Where is the corruption in the matter of BMW purchase by NCAA as it relates to Princess Stella Oduah? Were the cars her personal property or ministry of aviation? Must everybody’s taste equilibrate? In fact, I can not wait any longer for the disintegration of cesspit called Nigeria.

Oladiran: Odimegwu shuldnt have talked, he should have been acting his intentions instead!

You are very correct.

[quote author=ndu_chucks]I hope you are not getting blind as time passes by o. I already gave you people one example: the amount involved in the purchase of the cars for Oduah was beyond the approval limit of the minister and the NCAA. The correct protocol in this case would have been to make a request for the purchase of the vehicles to the Federal Executive Council. You and I know that if that had taken place, the Minister and NCAA would have become free from blame.[/quote]What is the approved limit amount for the purchase of car by ministry of aviation or NCAA? Why would the ministry of aviation place request for the purchase of the vehicles to the Federal Executive Council?

Does Federal Executive Council manage the budget of ministry of aviation? The moment the budget of each ministry is approved, what the ministry does with the money is its business until auditors make a call.

It is very clear you know absolutely nothing in protocols and have never seen where protocol is processed.

Sincere 9gerian: I stumbled on this article on Vanguard, titled "Aviation development: A rehash of old tunes". It was written on October 05, 2013. I reproduced below parts of the article relevant to the topic.

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Otherwise, how else does one describe recent hoopla that greeted Ethiopian Airlines’, ET, foray into AkanuIbiam International Airport, Enugu, two weeks ago.

It should be noted that any government serious about the development of its aviation sector would not celebrate multiple entries for foreign airlines into its territories as doing that sets the tone for death of local airlines. And for an aviation sector that is as fledgling as Nigeria’s, the multiple entries granted foreign airlines by officials of the Aviation Ministry can best be described as debilitating for a struggling economy.

The implication of this is capital flight which, before now, had been put at close to N100 billion annually. So, the wild celebration that greeted ET flight into Enugu demonstrated the lack of capacity on the part of those drawing up policies for the aviation industry.

Enugu now makes Ethiopian Airlines’ third entry point into the country, after Lagos and Abuja. Other foreign airlines enjoy same approvals from the Aviation Ministry. This makes the aviation industry the worst bleeding spot for the country in terms of capital flight.

Ideally, local airlines are positioned to feed passengers for foreign airlines but now that the international airlines are indirectly carrying passengers to virtually every corner of the country, government’s talk about assisting domestic airlines to grow amounts to policy somersault. No sane country does it.

The entry of Ethiopian Airlines into Enugu is a negative development for domestic airlines. All we have done is to give way to kill the domestic carriers; we are killing the industry gradually.

They have also succeeded in killing operations into Port Harcourt, Owerri and Asaba, as the domestic airlines are supposed to feed passengers for foreign airlines to these airports. Politically, we have scored some good points but on the other hand, we are damaging the economy,” said Capt. Dele Ore, an ex-pilot.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/10/aviation-development-a-rehash-of-old-tunes-2/

The above crap credited to one malnourished Capt. Dele Ore is borne out of bigotry instincts without suggestion that Lagos MMA should be closed down.

shymexx: Can you show me where on nl I've supported anyone who was accused of corruption? I honestly don't care about what tribe you're from - cheating the poor and robbing hardworking people, especially people who look like you, is wrong - end of story.

You're a sycophantic pseud - go engrave that on your forehead.

Shelion,

I shall engrave it as long as you live in your bubble world of delusion.

[quote author=ndu_chucks]Lets not be childish or play dumb here. It is clear that proper protocol or due process was not followed in the procurement of the cars - I don't have time to educate anyone on the said protocol.

The issue at hand is not about limits placed on anything but about a complete breach of protocol which resulted into criminal activities. I hope you are not denying the fact that theft occurred. If I were you, I'd tone down your rhetoric until the names of the people who were awarded the contract are made public, if they ever become public.

You, of all people should not support theft under any condition. A minister who created the environment for such theft must be culpable, to say the least. It really does not matter where the minister is from.[/quote]I make bold to call you Nigeria’s father of protocol. I shall be all ears as you proffer one example where such protocol was observed. Father of protocol, please do not try to stonewall by insisting you will not educate us because this forum is equally a place of learning experience. Mr. Protocol, if you do not mind my inexperience on procedural protocols, I would want you to start by explaining the protocol involved in the procurement of presidential jets.

ilugunboy: .....and may God punished the generations of those that cut short true federalism in Nigeria and the entrenchment of the unitary system of government that have led us to where we are today.

I pay God and even Satan to punish the moronic dingbats and their generations that think there is a true or false federalism? Only in world of dumbasses that people insinuate the instances of “true federalism”. I guess there is also “false federalism”. Most Nigerians are junkies.

ilugunboy: Stella Oduah

Maduka

Nkemakolam



No wonder why some people on this thread have been adamant that the malfeasance shouldn't be punished...

God will punish any of you here that have been defending this sham if you ever write against corruption on this forum again.

God will punish those who fought to sustain idiotic One-Nigeria. Generations of those who fought to keep one-Nigeria shall continue to wallow in a dilapidated Nigeria forever.

Does this jackass remember there was a time we use to fly Nigerian Airways from Lagos to New York? What happened to Nigerian Airways? I had known that this bigot is an airhead and his claim of law degree is absolutely questionable. I guess we have to go beyond the days of Nigerian Airways demise to dish out punishment to maggots who contributed to the aviation woes.

[quote author=ndu_chucks]We all know that inflating contracts is the order of the day and a common way of stealing government funds. I wouldn't be surprised if the costs were inflated by the foot soldiers charged with purchasing these cars. Madam minister may not even be aware of the theft scheme.

Having said that, she must take responsibility for abuse of power and for being unbelieveably tacky. This affair is super scandalous and if she has any integrity left, she should resign.

For those of you saying that she should not be held accountable because others before her may have committed worse atrocities, I say, you should bury your heads in shame.[/quote]If moral conducts shell be gauged by your court of moral standards, I am afraid you will not live to write this crap. What federal government policy limits the type of vehicles any agency will maintain in its fleet? What constitutes corruption?

shymexx: I know you haven't been a fan of some of my posts of late. And I've been trying to avoid you - however, I need to co-sign this post and add my 2p to it.

Nairaland has taught me that the psyche of the average Nigerian is the worst on the planet and Nigerians are the most confused people that I've ever come across. They cry about poverty, corruption and bad governance, however, when it's time to ask for a change - they all become clannish. Perhaps, poverty has eaten too deep into their brain matter that change is foreign to them. And the boldness in which most of them exhibit this trait to support whoever they've been systematically-indoctrinated and/or inclined to support despite not benefitting from the proceeds - either directly or indirectly - is just sickening.

Even some of us who're connected and/or directly/indirectly connected to these utterly corrupt people hate everything they're about. And I know you're also related to some of these people. It's not just right to keep cheating the poor. I can name at least four people among the elites ruling Nigeria that I'm either related to, or am I connected to, one way or the other, despite not living there. But I can't stand them. Cheating the poor is just so wrong on different levels. However, since the poverty-ridden ones who're are at the receiving end of the kleptomaniacs and their kleptocracy don't care - there comes a time when you need to give up on certain people because it's forever going to be a vicious cycle of destruction with them.

When the next plane crashes - they would be the ones on the thread - in multitudes - with lamentations, tears and all kinds of R.I.P messages. Stupid and dumb bastards!!! However, most of them don't even know that they're indirectly responsible for the death of those people because it could have been averted, if the required change had been effected.

Yet we wonder why the country is in the bottomless pit and why everyone is looking for a way out of that dungeon - when the other side isn't even greener.


I give up!!

I'm out, yo!

PS: let just add this. This is also one of the reasons why I prefer a Yoruba or a smaller country that can be easily managed without the intricacies of bigger and multi-tribal society.

Above is a bundle of trash. Killings in Nigeria have become an age long experience. It is ironic that the same airheads who supported one form of killing in Nigeria will turnaround to criticize another form simply because one instance aligned with their skewed stream of thought.

iknopro: Any Igboman criticising dis woman must be silly. Where were all this criticism wen Femi Fani Kayode was the aviation minister? Was he not more corrupt? Whats about the N17billion fraud at the aviation ministry under FFK, whats the EFCC's verdict? Lets stop fooling ourselves, a section of the country wants her out, just as they want GEJ out at all cost cos they are not serving their evil interest.

A section of the country recently said the opening of intl flight at the east will kill local air travel biz, can u all understand their schemes and thinkin? Knowing fully well that Igbos do intl travel a lot and the impact it might have on their region if Igbos travel frm their region without having to take a local flight to Lagos before taking their flight abroad. They want no good for Igbos and r ready to destroy wateva good that seems to be comin to the region.

Let rally behind the minister, we all knw 95% nigeria politicians are corrupt and Nigeria is a jungle state where the 'advantaged' wanna continue holding dowm the 'disadvantaged'

I support you bro, Mrs Stella Oduah we will always support, any attempt †☀ remove her from that seat will cause problem in dis country. I don't know why dis marginalization is much more like dis. May God help us all.

I say any Igboman criticising this woman, Princess Stella Oduah, must be shot.

harde2lah: GOD BLESS YOU!!! I like people like you. I don't f***king care who is in power, either from the east, west, south or north. All i advocate for is credible leadership. I am really sick of this "He is my brother", "she is my sister " mentality of Nigerians. What is really going on with this God forsaken country called Nigeria? Your personality has nothing to do with your tribe or where are you came from. I weep for this country.

Those who took this moronic attitude to the apex of power in Nigeria did not last more than six(6)months in the office and few paid with their lives.

I had expected moronic Capt. Dele Ore to conclude his conjectural crap by suggesting the MMA in Lagos be shutdown.

The same idiotic Itse Sagay, who frowned because there were Igbo people still standing after the defeat of Biafra, is talking moral. Nigeria is a joke indeed.