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@OP

You should be held responsible if certain ethnicities in Nigeria commit suicide on the light that an Ikwerre man, whose surname is Chukwu, is an alleged the new leader of MASSOB.

Is Nigeria really this bad as portrayed by this useless DSS?

cheruv:
Lekwa ala Igbo


https://www.nairaland.com/attachments/3236001_igboland_jpeg72ffdbe9771892b98ffe883330da1679

Bros your map is incomplete.

Abagworo:
Before Okorocha Okigwe had more banks, hotels, fastfoods and businesses than Orlu. It equally had better roads. The death of Okigwe started when Udenwa government fell out with Cattle traders at Garki which made them relocate to Abia State where they got the biggest cattle market in the East. Okigwe previously had the biggest cattle market in the East.

Orlu had the same kind of narrow single roads with red soil staining most houses before Okorocha came and completely changed it to a town with major arterial roads dualised with streetlights. You can hardly remember Orlu used to be red if you visit there now. The only road that depicts how it used to be is the old Owerri road . Okigwe is still like that old Owerri road till date.

Dualising Owerri-Orlu highway is the biggest road project in Southeast by any Governor past and present. Only Rivers State and Akwa-Ibom have done such project that I know of in this region of Nigeria. That road runs almost 50km to Akokwa and it is a federal road. Okigwe to Owerri equally needs such dualisation just as Owerri to Obowo/Abia boundary if we must accept justice and equity.

Finally most new developments are in Umuagwo, Mgbidi, Oguta, Ideato, Umuaka, Orlu town and even the new industrial park is at Ohaji/Egbema. So after Owerri and its immediate environs Orlu takes everything leaving out Okigwe.

Per the bolded, why are you bent on blowing hot air? How could anybody locate the biggest cattle market in Okigwe when it does have a railway station?

Ymodulus:
95% of people that fight online for the biafra cause have 10% knowledge of what transpired during the Biafran war. Also many pro-biafran war supporters pick Chinua Achebe side of the story on the Biafran war in the book 'there was a country' neglecting all other account and labeling them as fake.

Meanwhile Chinua's story was one-sided and biased. Chimanda Adichie is an example of the blind followers.

Do you believe Ademoyega was impartial when he wrote the book? Who were these many pro-Biafran war supporters that pick Chinua Achebe's story? I wonder what a dumbass soldier who spent most of the war time in jail knew about the war. It appears Nigerians get deluded every day.

cheruv:
Ndi Igbo iberibe....echi unu agwam si "otu naijiria" ka mma
Legodu otu eji were unu naeme ihe akaja!

Mgbe ndi ofe nmanu na ndi n'akpo isi ala buru ugba aghara bu ghide Stalla Oduah, Kedi ebe ndi ji ofo alaigbo zuchara

egift:
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According to the nonsense you posted here, Jonathan has said nothing. When Goodluck Jonathan say something himself, let us know. Nonsensical bloggers.

Do you honestly believed that the craps vomited by Muhammadu Buhari in Hausa language warrant a response from Goodluck Jonathan?

Ymodulus:
Lol. We can sell it to you as an artifact.


I doubt 98% of Pro - Biafra preachers on this forum read this book

I read the book and still have the copy. What has being a Biafra preacher got do with the book?

AareOlumidey:
What South South Niger Delta wants is 50% Resource Control not biafra Igbo are using the support they gave to Jonathan in 2015 election as blackmail to convert Niger delta struggle to biafra. Niger delta struggle is 50% resource control. This deception will not work. They only supported Jonathan because they got alot of appointments under Jonathan. They are just selfish and greedy people. Niger Delta Struggle is completely different from biafra agitation. Igbo supported Obasanjo against thier own son and hero Ojukwu in 2003 election, they should go and claim yoruba instead.
As far as I am concern Igbo, Yoruba and Hausa are all benefiting from the current system. After all an Igbo man Gen Agunyi Ironsi created the Unitary System for Nigeria in
1966 that we are complaining against today. Gen Agunyi Ironsi set the foundation for the destruction of regional federalism in Nigeria. if not for his love for total control and domination (The disease of an average Igbo man), Niger delta would have be enjoying 50% resource control today.Tobe continued............

Per the bolded, most Nigerians have penchant for idiocy and stark ignorance. This is the reason why idiotic and moronic essays should be cut to size the moment they germinate. When Ironsi assumed the reigns of power in Nigerian government until the time his was murdered, Nigeria has regional system of government with four regions operating on quasi-independence as they were under Tafawa Balewa. However this quasi-independent format was abolished by Gowon when he created 12 states which introduced the unitary government where state government are looking up to Lagos for everything.

This dude is one of the most foolish fools that have the opportunity to become head of state of the zoo called Nigeria more than once. Is anyone in doubt why Nigeria is a dead-end? I can never have this dumbass as a compatriot. It sucks to be a Nigerian.

mekaboy:
I asked a reasonable question. Haven't they learnt from the first attack? Don't they know how to use camera phones.

Per the bolded, what has being able to use a camera got to do with literacy or lack thereof? In another thread, one dumbass fool will argue for the low intellect of Africans.

Immatex:
You believe in one Nigeria.

He Believes in Northern Nigeria.

Of course, he believes in Northern Nigeria yet some dumbass fools in the zoo called Nigeria will to preach useless "One-Nigeria" to us.

mekaboy:
How come they could not record the incident that led to the killing of their members celebrating the release of kanu ?


They rather come to cry online without evidence.

I say without equivocation, based on the context of this thread, that you are a quantified dunce. Do you know the meaning of the word - illiterate? Please see Google and it is user friendly too.

gadogado:
I have noticed in the media and other readings that south africa is retrogressing fast.the crime rate is sky rocketing,the health crises is bad and worsening (HIV) and now there is endemic corruption from the leadership all the way down. In short,the country is going down the drain,in the last 10 years 1/5th of the white population has left the country seeking greener pastures in new zealand,australia,canada and europe and even dubai.The country's economic situation is worsening. Why is this? there are now power cuts and water shortages in most parts of SA

A discussion i had with a friend implied that its because the country has a black leadership.So, do you think that there is something in the mind of a black man that cannot allow him to develop?
Is there some sort of curse on Africans that suggest that one cannot enjoy something as simple as electricity (the dark continent jk ) provided this country is headed by black men? in short,why do we suffer backwardness in africa?

The moment you put an African at the head of any progressive trend, it will instantly turn retrogressive. Most Africans are sentimentally and emotionally drunk and can never see well constructive and progressive reasons even they are placed on the ridges of their dumbass noses. It sucks to be an African.

AsSabirin:
[color=#006600][b]i really dont get why the igbo people are resulting to propaganda and crying foul to further their cause. this is the nigerian army for crying out loud, an institution of government. if there is a hausa man at the head, then its either yoruba, igbo, ijaw, egbira or any other tribe at the 2nd, third or 4th ranks, this kind of plan can work if the institution consist of 100% hausa. so why are you making it seem like its hausa that is causing you hardship when infact its the military?

stop playing this victim card, its just disgusting.[/b][/color]

Per the bolded in red, it is nice you have grown some brains to realize that, after all, it is Nigerian army. I shall bet my last kobo that you are among the stiffs that labeled January 15, 1966 coup as Igbo instead of Nigerian army. Nigeria will never see a day of progress until Nigerians desist from dishonesty and tribal bigotry.

Why should any sane person describe true statements allegedly made by Donald Trump as bombshell? If actually he made this comment, it is nothing but a perfect truth. Africans are useless jokers in general and Nigerians in particular.

obailala:
And you think there was no formiddable opposition against the balkanization? .... The only reason there wouldnt be a shot fired is if very powerful nations are backing the breakaway state and if they intimidate the mother nation to let the separatists go. . The big question is, who are the international allies of IPOB? ... Mazi Kanu has been deceiving jobless gullible Igbo youths that he has secured international allies, but when he was asked by Igbos in the US who these international allies are, he went deaf and dumb.

Please tell who intimidated USSR and on behalf of who? In addition, tell us who intimated Czechoslovakia and on behalf of who? Most Nigerians tend to dwell on silly sentiments and baseless innuendos. Per the bolded, you now realized that Nnamdi Kanu is not a silly dunce. If he had said a word on the question you have wanted him answered, you and DSS would have been happy on the idiotic charge of treason leveled against Nnamdi Kanu. There are certain deals not meant for public consumption.

I want crude oil to dry up so that the cesspit called Nigeria should crumble like pack of cards.

Udmaster:
Nice Comment.. Uniting the Igbo with their kith and kin in SS and NC should be the main aim now.
And it is the duty of Ohanaeze Ndi Igbo to do that.

The cultural affinity between Ndiigbo in five states of Nigeria and in other states is not a job. Ohanaeze is not a political entity and certainly not a nation builder. Therefore the route channeled by IPOB, MASSOB and Nnamdi Kanu is right approach for an independent nation. Anybody who passes as an Igbo must watch his/her utterances in the public with respect to independent state.

EUROBOMBER:
Udmaster, thank you for this thread. I have said it many times that Igbo nation should be separated from Nnamdi Kanu's IPOB. Just imagine the silly speech about wrappers. Imagine Kanu asking his followers to rise up and attack Pastor Kumuyi and kill Yorubas! Is that how he intends to get Biafra? What has a man of God got to do with his agitation?

I believe we Igbos can get a lot of what we want if we play our cards right in Nigeria but the reason why I get involved in all this Biafra talk is incase Nigeria eventually breaks up.

The Igbos will not force any tribe to be part of us but will accept any tribes that choose to be with us. All I am trying to point out is that Igboland is much bigger than the SE as defined by Nigeria, Igboland spreads into Delta & Rivers states. If Nigeria breaks we will take all our lands with us. The rest of the "We SS" people like tonyebarcanista and his likes can then form their ND republic. Thank God ijawcitizen has recognised this fact.


Another thing fundamentally wrong with Nnamdi Kanu's approach is that he did not make wide spread consultations, you cannot just sit down in UK, draw any map you like and begin to circulate as Biafra, this is the reason why these minorities are calling us expantionists.
Consultation is key in this very critical issues. For instance if there happens to be any sort of agreement between the Igbos and the SS people to form any country the name cannot be Biafra, the name would be agreed by negotiations. Secondly we can go for a rgional system of government whereby we have two regions i.e. SE & SS. Each region would control it's resources and pay 20% to the center to fund a united formidable military. We can have a president and prime minister such that ifsay the SE produces the president, the SS would produce prime minister and vice versa.


This way, a society built on fairness and justice can be formed. This issue calls for a lot of mental work and not someone asking people to start killing their neighbours from one radio Biafra. As for the true size of Igboland, Cheruv has the map.

The bolded is arrant nonsense. Nobody is a man of God. If you meant man of "god", it is debatable. I do not have time for all other craps in the above post. There is no policy that originates through consultation. Policies usually originate from a person and bought by many people. Only a dunce will allow detractors to derail a well thought out approach. Those who do not agree can either stay on the sideline or form clique of saboteurs as usual. However, he who is stung by a bee takes note of housefly.

kayfra:
Nothing you said there is under Nigerian law which is available for the public to read.

I'd defer to the court to make the determination though.

Did 1999 Nigerian constitution make provisions for self-determination?

obailala:
I only cited that conflict because it is still one of the issues birthed by the balkanization of USSR; something which the soviets are obviously still not happy about till date. The truth is that no country in this world will allow a part of it's territory ceded away without putting up some formidable opposition which more often than not usually degenerates into a violent conflict.

The bolded is a nonsensical fallacy from the land of insane. Czechs and Slovakia are once a country before it disintegrated and no shot was fired in anger. Any place there is any form of separatist movement, there is marked and know territory to those demanding to secede. Nigeria like Czechoslovakia can disintegrate into Biafra, Arewa, Oodua etc. The territories do not belong to Nigeria but to inhabitants the formed Nigeria collectively. This is the reason there are ethnicity and state of origin in Nigerian political lexicon.

clevadani:
If he had done the right thing when he was the Senate President, he wouldn't need to all these shenanigans to win the rerun election.
All those people should not forget to collect all the stolen money from him.

Senate President position does not allow for liberal political patronages. The position is meant to help in crafting the law of the land. How does making laws translate into giving political alms to the people?

BrainnewsNg:
What?

I will like to attend when Cross River State organize one show for after-market-parts manufacturers in the state. Nigerians tend to imitate European's, American's and Asian's stupidity while forgetting these foreigner's inventive prowess.

What an idiocy!!!

kayfra:
There are limits to freedom of speech such as inciting violence. Most governments crack down on such.

There is no limit to freedom of speech especially under the auspice of self-determination. However if anybody feels offended by such speeches, he/she can take the group to court for defamation. Incitement of violence cannot be included when asking people to march or protest for they believed.

kayfra:
Stop shifting the goal post. You asked for a list and I gave you one.

I an not shifting the goal post but staying within the circle of the debate. Every separatist movement has been persecuted by the so-called federal government of Nigeria. You would have a case if Nnamdi Kanu is not being illegally detained. Every so-called separatist movement in USA has freedom of public debate and exercise of free speech.

kayfra:
League of the South
Alaska Independence Party
Republic of Lakotah
Texas Nationalist Movement
Second Vermont Republic

Just to name a few

Name one such group its leader has been illegally or even legally detained?

kayfra:
That's what I expect the leadership of ipob, MASSOB etc to do. People's imagination has already been captured, the next thing is to put the plans in place. It's not going to be easy but it can be done peacefully.

Pick the weakest representative in the SE and recall him and vote someone else in. Start registering your own party and watch the politicians start raising motions for Biafra left, right and center. Wisdom is needed here the current riots can only last so long before fatigue and indifference sets in.

Nigerians seem to be politically myopic. There are multiple ways to solve a problem. The IPOB and MASSOB have chosen a way and it must be respected.

kayfra:
Almost every country on earth has separatist groups agitating for self determination. Nothing unique about it.

For sake of posterity, can you name one separatist outfit in USA? Yes, there is one such group in Spain and the Spanish government does not behave like idiotic Nigerian government.