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khiaa:
Aww!! Come here and let me give you a hug. Do you feel better now?

No I don't, cause you said you have been taken.

Jesse25:
Who be this one self

Lol.

khiaa:
Unlike most of the people on this site I'm smart enough to know that a few do not represent the majority. No, a Nigerian man is no longer in my radar. *Sorry*

This broke my heart my beautiful Nubien. So I'm no longer on your radar?

TheSourcerer:
hmm what's your opinion?

I believe America fears the outcome of a military confrontation with Iran and its Shia proxies in the region remember they are still trying to fix the Afghan debacle. And another military entanglement in the middle east would affect Trump's chances of winning the next election.

TheSourcerer:
The war was a scam
Simple
There was never gonna be a war

Hmmm. So that's why America didn't retaliate? I'm still not satisfied with this. Something must have restrained them.

ignis:
Question

Answer

Only a few countries can attack US and not risk retaliation from America but i'm still wondering why America has refused to retaliate such, this is the second time Iran would slap America in the face . It downed an expensive US spy drone last year risking a military confrontation with this super power but America only responded by increasing economic sanctions. The excuse President Trump gave for not retaliating was he didn't want innocent civilians to die.

Now that Iran has launched a missile attack that poses a threat to American lives is President Trump still merciful and doesn't want Iranian citizens to die by not retaliating such? Even there are other military targets America could hit if America does not want innocent Iranians to die but it has refused to do that.

Does America dread a conflict with Iran or she doesn't want innocent civilians to die as President Trump would say or is America planning a surprise attack in the future?

Lies

oz4real83:
life is all about improvement. Do u know how many years it has been since vietnam? Do u know how many discoveries in science and technology since then? Personnel and equipments keep changing. Some Weapons used in vietnam may even be obsolete now.

America isn't the only country experiencing that improvement and discoveries in science and technology. Other countries are experiencing it too, Iran, North Korea and the rest are not in the stage they were in the 50's.

oz4real83:
$13billion on just one aircraft carrier out of many others while Iran spends about $20billion on defence and they want to fight war with US. This is a joke of the century . War is different from terrorism. "War" is total attack, only your human side considers civillian welfare. I am not undermining Iran but when it comes to US, they are centuries apart. Peace is always better.
Back to the story, the African American had every reason to abandon ship and run away. America marginalised him because of his colour, he was even trained for the task all because of hs colour. They were even treating him as a second class citizen. But he didn't abandon his country in time of need. He fought and defended his country. He would have lost his life if not for God's grace. America didn't give him the reason for this but his patriotism was unshakeable. Nigeria is not what we want it to be but we shouldn't dump the country. We have no other country. Every fight we fight must be geared towards making the country better.

Sit down there. Go and read about Vietnam war and you will see that victory does not always come with the number of weapons you can deploy.

Long overdue. He was the first black man to receive a naval cross. He was a brave soldier. Rest on Doris Miller.

Simplyleo:
But ipob miscreants from Alaigbo said even a fly wasn't hurt in the Iranian missile strike on a US base in Iraq.

So who is lying? I think Pentagon is the liar here.

Don't mind those clowns on NL

Sheggz22:
Bros,

You be doctor?

Lol

Hanging is self strangulation hence the bursted eye capillaries. When people hang themselves the eyes shoot out because of the pressure on the neck. So i don't think he was murdered.

ichuka:
@OP
Even google map can navigate someone accurately these days talkless of missiles .
My point is it's no longer rocket science to do such.
Everybody knows OP.the problem is they will also know where,when and the time it's suppose to hit the target.
OP u can do 80% of these precision from ur room and backyard if you have one.
Problem is ur foes will know where it's coming from and the time it will enter there air space not to talk of hitting the ground.
Dude,Nobi to first fire b pros.
Can you consume/endure the retaliation from the other party?

Haven't you asked yourself why the other party didn't bother to retaliate after the missile attack? Iran once downed the drone of the other party but the other party failed to retaliate. Start asking questions about why the other party does not want to engage Iran militarily. Ain't saying the other party can't crush Iran but why is the other party avoiding a war because Iran was ready for war the day it fired those missiles.

basilico:
The 1953 thing was about oil greed.
The Ayatollah who had been to France was welcomed home to create a theocratic brutal Islamic regime. The people elect a President but the decision maker is a Shia cleric, who murder people at will and use laws to micro manage what ordinary Persians can say, eat, wear, marry, defecate, Literally every aspect of their life with some very Basiji guys on the watch.
To you it seems you support the Islamic revolution that took them back to stone age.
If the Mullahs did not have oil their policies would have equated the to Chad or some other despotic third world hellhole, which it I in a way

Why won't i support the islamic revolution? Do you know how the west used the Shah to exploit Iran economically? Mohammed Mossadeg was removed in a CIA and British MI6 coup because he was leaning towards socialism which was anti-thetical to US capitalist order.

He nationalised all foreign companies and expropriated the oil sector. He had good plans for the people of Iran but his plans were against western interest in Iran.

The Iranians had to take back their country by removing the western puppet called the Shah in a revolution that put an end to western exploitation led by America. It wasn't the revolution that took them back to the stone age it was western sanctions. Iran had enough resources to be a great country.

US was pained because the revolution put an end to the free oil concessions they were receiving under the corrupt Shah. The same thing they did to Cuba after Fidel Castro removed the American puppet that was milking their country dry, American sanctions followed as usual. The same thing Donald Trump is trying to do to Iraq today, He said if American troops leave Iraq the US would place heavy sanctions on Iraq.

That has been the norm for decades. If you don't allow America to exploit your country expect economic sabotage from America. This was rampant during the cold war.

kemicalreact:

Where have you been? Your former account is no longer active

In Trump and Pompeo's words.
"We are with the people of Iran"
I don't know how they want ordinary Iranian to believe this.

You plunged their country into chaos in 1953 by toppling their democratically elected leader and installing a corrupt dictator that helped you milk Iran dry. They decided to take their destiny into their hands by removing your puppet Shah in a revolution this angered you and you sabotaged their economy for 4 decades yet you are still with the people of Iran? Hahahaha

Mightymanna:
Why does Iran need these kind of weapons?


They want become the bully of middle east
Their ballistic missiles have covered Israel Saudi Arabia and almost all the middle east what will happened if they get a nuclear weapon?

Look at the contemporary history of Iran starting from the days of their democratically elected prime minister Mohammed Mossadeg that was ousted in a CIA and MI6 coup, the exploitation of Iran by US and its western cohorts after Mossadeg was ousted. The 1979 revolution that put an end to western exploitation and the economic sabotage that followed the revolution.

If you do a thorough research on this then you won't have problem understanding why Iran needs a robust military programme to defend itself against its oppressors

Trump2020:
yet they fired into empty bases

Iran didn't fire those missiles with the intention of killing US troops and for them to have achieved that without harming any US soldier shows they are good at what they do, a well caliberated missile strike. They did that to honour their slained General and they passed a message to America that they won't fold their arms and let any country bully them.

If Iran wants to arm US troops on a normal day they have proxies all over the region that can achieve that for them but they just had to launch those missiles first by passing a clear message that they are not weak.

And i think America got the message by not launching a counter attack, Mr Trump was wise this time.

Horus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgPs6lCj3F4

Iranian Missiles Threatening American Bases and Israel

In this video, we have examined the Iranian ballistic missiles. Iran launched a weapon development program against the embargo of the US and its Western allies. Since 1992 it has been producing many domestic weapons.

Iran is a big threat to western interest in the middle east hence the antagonism. Iran is the only country that can put and end to US adventurism in that region, America knows this that is why Mr Trump has been calling on NATO countries to be more active in the middle east after Iran struck America's base in Iraq. I don't know how they intend to achieve this after the so called NATO has failed in Afghanistan.

YorubaLord:
@Bolded. Those guys ONLY exist in Jupiter.

You are a liar there is one on nairaland and it's me.

Efewestern:
Dermmy what do you think?

"The accuracy revolution is real and no longer a monopoly of the United States. This has huge implications for modern conflict.”

Late last year the pentagon released a report that states Iran has an unmatched ballistic missile programme in the middle east, it was an assessment of Iran's ballistic missile programme but now they have seen how deadly and accurate these missiles are in real life. Iran is the second country in the world to have tested anti-ship ballistic missile. This is the missile programme America wants them to abandon while America keeps arming Israel and Saudi Arabia with sophisticated weapons. It won't work

Their missile programme is a great deterrent to their aggressors

dasphinx1:
Dem finally get this babe

E b lyk say you sabi her well well

lagdmark:
The western nation made false statement to the Middle East citizens that removal of Saddam Hussain, Gaddafi and other strong leaders in the region will restore democracy and freedom. Almost 30years those countries the western nations have invaded never had peace.
Today Iran is about to enter the one chance also.

What angers me is this their fake democracy of a thing they are preaching when they have crashed democratically elected regimes around the world and installed dictators for their selfish interest epecially countries who took their destinies into their hands by refusing to allow the west to exploit them. The west is evil

They haven't seen anything. Those who armed and assisted them in overthrowing and killing Gadaffi are the ones scrambling for the oil in Libya. There are different warring factions backed by external actors Libya is the definition of a failed state.

ursullalinda:
In all of these.....I learnt never to react in anger.....No matter how provoked you are.....now the citizens he was trying to please are now calling for his head

Iran was not trying to please her citizens. They activated their air defence systems after firing missiles at US base in Iraq, Iran was in a defensive mode expecting a repraisal attack from US. They mistook the aircraft for one of US heavy bombers. America did this in 1988 when its naval ship shot down an Iranian civilian aircraft over the strait of hormuz killing 290 Iranians onboard.

But Iran should have closed its airspace against civilian airliners before firing at US. It was a fatal mistake

Minjim:
Really

You didn't see doesn't mean it doesn't exist,

It's like you work with the CIA

Top Trump administration officials on Sunday morning struggled to defend an airstrike that killed a senior Iranian general this month, acknowledging they could not confirm President Trump’s Friday assertion that Iranians planned to attack four embassies.

On CBS’s “Face the Nation,” Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper said he “didn’t see” evidence of an Iranian plan to attack four U.S. embassies. But, he said, he “share[s] the president’s view that probably — my expectation was they were going to go after our embassies. The embassies are the most prominent display of American presence in a country.”

On Friday, Trump said Iranian Maj. Gen. Qasem Soleimani, killed by a U.S. drone strike, had been planning attacks on four U.S. embassies, a claim made to justify the decision.

That assertion was at odds with intelligence assessments from senior administration officials. On Friday, a senior administration official and a senior defense official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss classified information, told The Washington Post they were only aware of vague intelligence about a plot against the embassy in Baghdad and the information did not suggest a fully formed plan.

Neither official said there were threats against multiple embassies.On CNN’s State of the Union on Sunday, Esper defended the strike on Soleimani, saying it “disrupted attacks” and “reset terms with Iran.”

White House national security adviser Robert C. O’Brien also defended the strike, saying on ABC’s “This Week” the Iranian regime is “having a very bad week” and the United States would continue a “maximum pressure campaign” against the regime.

He also said the president has shown “incredible restraint” in the face of regular provocation from Iran and has also been “modest in his dealings” with other countries.
But O’Brien did not confirm Trump’s claim that the White House had received intelligence that Soleimani, the head of Iran’s elite Quds Force, was planning “imminent” attacks against four U.S. embassies.

“What the president said is consistent with what we’ve been saying. We had very strong intelligence that they were looking to kill and maim Americans in American facilities in the region,” O’Brien said on “Fox News Sunday.”

Even with the United States’s “exquisite intelligence,” it is difficult “to know exactly what the targets are,” O’Brien said. He added it was fair to anticipate a future Iranian attack “would have hit embassies in at least four countries.”

Pressed on why the White House has not revealed more details on the alleged threat they say precipitated the strike, O’Brien said, “I would love to release the intelligence,” but “those same streams and channels” are important to protecting Americans.

Top Democrats have pushed back on Esper’s claim that the Gang of Eight congressional leaders was given information on the threat to attack the embassy in Baghdad. Rep. Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.), a member of the Gang of Eight, contradicted Esper’s assertion on “Face the Nation” about the briefing to Congress, saying it lacked “specificity” about a potential embassy threat. Schiff said he and several members of the Gang of Eight were dissatisfied with the evidence laid out as a basis for the strike.

Trump and Esper are “fudging” the details, Schiff added, and “overstating and exaggerating what the intelligence shows.” When it comes to information that could lead to a potential war in Iran, he said, “that’s a dangerous thing to do.”

Trump’s claim about threats against embassies was also not part of a Senate briefing earlier this week, Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

“That was news to me,” he said. “It certainly wasn’t something I recall being raised in the classified briefing.”Lee also savaged the Trump administration for failing to sufficiently justify the strike. He earlier called the briefing the “worst” he’s received in nine years in the Senate.

Sen. Christopher A. Coons (D-Del.), also speaking on “Fox News Sunday,” criticized the administration for failing to disclose more specific intelligence during the closed-door briefing.“We got less detailed information there than President Trump shared with Laura Ingraham,” the senator said.

Killing Soleimani did eliminate “one of our worst enemies in the Middle East. … But the larger question is, did it make us safer?” Coons said.
Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said administration officials were “dismissive of Congress,” throughout the briefing on NBC’s “Meet the Press."

He also criticized the administration for relying on a George W. Bush-era authorization for military force to justify the attack.

“We need to have a full-throated debate in Congress,” he said. “I want to have that debate and bring our kids home.”
Sen. Michael F. Bennet (D-Colo.) said on “Meet the Press” that Trump’s actions “strengthened the hard-line wing of the Iranian government."

“This is a moment when heightened congressional scrutiny of the president is important no matter who the president is,” said Bennett, who’s also a long-shot contender for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination.

Source:https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/01/12/defense-secretary-esper-said-he-didnt-see-evidence-an-iranian-plot-attack-four-embassies/

So you couldn't intercept those missiles? Now i believe something is wrong with U.S air defence systems.

mrvitalis:
You all kept quiet when America did there own ...hypocrisy in this world is just too much

The hypocrisy is just too much. Instead of them to try and de-escalate the situation they are supporting their fellow NATO thug.

No... pls join hahahaha
You pushed Donald Trump to this point now you are backing out? Some people would say

"Israel will make sure America fights to the last American soldier standing"

American leaders should learn how to be independent in the pursuance of their foreign policy, stop allowing Israel to dictate to you.

Efewestern what's your opinion on this?