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timbros:You are going around in circles and deliberately ignoring the fact but I'd break it down. Your question was, if Messi as an attacker is being judged with goals and assists, what would a midfielder like Jorginho be judged with? I replied by staying Messi has always been judged with more than his goal contributions. A midfielder is supposed to be judged by indices such as pass completion date, dirbbles completed, take-ons, playmaking and even assists (but I'd deliberately ignore assists). I'd we judge Balon d'Or for midfield roles, Kante is even above Jorginho. Messi has bossed the very roles expected of a midfielder. Screw it! If you watch football games Messi features in closely in the last few years, you wouldn't even have asked me that question - Messi has been dropping deep to play as a midfielder too. |
Jodera:If we are actually being honest, Jorginho isn't even the best midfielder at Chelsea - Kante is. Arguably Chelsea's best player. Why nobody is making a case for him or did so in 2018 beats me. Any top team would be glad to have him. To be sincere, if messi hadn't had this copa America effort, it would have been difficult to lay a claim on that balon dorBut he won it so the whataboutism and whatifs are just wishful thinking. I know it might be difficult to take, but your club progress is also a factor too not just solely individual statsClub progress: Copa Del Rey. UCL Quarterfinals. Tight League race and in top three. Individual statistics: Astronomical. And Balon is an individual award so go figure. So I ask... What's the difference between 2020/2021 messi exploit and 2017/2018 messi exploit assuming messi didn't win the copa America nor had such an exploit in it?What's the difference copper and Cu? Semantics but the same element. Again, he won the Copa America and not just win it but boss it in every statistics. And you can't take it away from him. There's no assumption to be had - he won it. Singular most outstanding player in any tournament this season (Euros and Copa).
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timbros:Good thing you brought this up. Messi has always been more than just goals and assists. Always. That's why his supporters get irate when Ronaldo, who's just a goalscorer, is compared to him. Goals, assists, chances created, playmaking, dribbling... Several indices. We are talking superhuman mode here. ![]()
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Most times, females who ask such questions tend to be very transactional with sex. Sex to them is a bargaining tool and she wouldn't think twice about sleeping with her landlord in lieu of rent payment or when asked after a job offer. Transactional sex or the suggestion of it is a no-no to me. Do it because you enjoy it, not as a currency. |
Jodera:If you have to declare "I am a Messi fan", you are trying to cover up for something obvious - veiled antagonism, but want to be accepted as stating the truth. Simple reverse psychology. I didn't need to state I am a Messi fan - my choice of words made that obvious. In the 2011/2012 season when Messi won the Balon d'Or, Barcelona didn't the the La Liga and UCL but won the Copa del Rey. Spain also won the Euros with many outstanding Barcelona players in the squad. It wasn't a Copa America year and he had lost the one in the previous year. But Balon d'Or is an individual award for the most outstanding player, not team, so he won it based on his statistics. This year he has more: Copa del Rey and Copa America. Chart-topping goals for both competitions and already won awards to this fact. In anything, winning the Copa America for Argentina, Copa del Rey for Barcelona and his winning statistics made the year a more rewarding one than 2011/2012. Get with the programme, Jodera. |
BlueAngel444:You would come third best in any I.Q. test against a stone and rusty doorknob. You come on the Barcelona thread to troll and I beat you back to civility with scathing facts. You'd rebuild your confidence for a week then think you can square up to me. None has been able to best me and none would. I'd never partake in an argument I have no evidence for. You are the resident troll in this section, treated even less than a skinny leper reclining by an overflowing drainage. Keep your inanities and simpleton-esque exchanges to you and your ilk. I only debate intelligent people who know how to shelve their emotionality and gaslighting for evidence-based debates and arguments. ![]() |
Jodera:I don't do emotions. Emotions are an anathema to rationality. What I do indulge and revel in, however, are facts - evidentially-proven facts.[/quote] La liga don't give best player award recently unlike EPL, so the only metric we'll use is Barca's best player of the season which was won by De Jong, not messi.What are rewriting history as we know it and spewing alternate facts? Messi, even in the just-concluded season, was the best player in Spain (not even Barcelona) - goals, assists, goal contributions, Highest goalscorer and assist-maker in La Liga in 2020/2021 season: https://1xbet.whoscored.com/Regions/206/Tournaments/4/Seasons/8321/Spain-LaLiga Highest Barcelona scorer and assist-maker in the 2020/2021 season: In fact, Griezmann comes next before De Jong. https://1xbet.whoscored.com/Regions/206/Tournaments/14/Spain-Copa-del-Rey Highest dribbles and passes. What are you on about? I don't do emotions or presumptuous claims based on hearsay. I do facts and facts only. ![]() |
Jodera:What on God's green earth are you on about? Messi didn't win Barça best player when he's been the best in the La Liga as a whole and in the world? Are you trolling now? Even if you are a LiveScore soccer pundit, the stats are there to show. Don't embarrass yourself in public. |
Jodera:In any other era, this would fly; but in this Messi empire, nobody else seems good enough. My advice: Cryogenics - every other Balon d'Or hopeful should just slow aging by freezing themselves till Messi is kind enough to retire from football. Neymar has always given up and embraced his fate. The rest should. It's a no-brainer. |
Jodera:He's not even the best player in the Italy or Chelsea squad. But dreams come true...when you go back to sleep again. |
J2381:We all have the general idea of beauty for females - certain facial structures, lips, eyes, nose... But my ideal beautiful woman is one who is comfortable in her skin - who looks just as aesthetically attractive in person like she does in pictures (most of which are doctored). If she feels uncomfortable without those aesthetic augmentations, she's not beautiful to me. It's so bad these days that women want to be celebrated for going without makeup, calling themselves "courageous" and "bold" - something men do everyday of our lives. |
Finestgal:Funny how basic and plain most of these supposed "most beautiful celebrities" look without the made-up faces and edited pictures. She's not bad but she's created an image of extreme beautiful and without those accessories, she looks less attractive. Never been a fan of heavy makeup and photoshoots. |
BlueAngel444:You obviously were jaundiced to the comment I made about Bartomeu ruining Barça from within with outrageous signings and wages. Ronaldinho was the hottest player in football when Barça signed him for $30 million; Eto'o and Henry, hot as they were, weren't world record signings. Griezmann should never have dorned a Barça shirt. Still, in the last 20 years, Barça is the only top ten football club which has been most reliant on its academy players and always phase them into the main team. Bartomeu ruined most of that and we criticise him accordingly. |
CSTRR:True. Merry Christmas. It's snowing trophies.
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CSTRR:Actually, Messi has football's equivalent of the Oscar and has done so six times with the seventh most probable - Balon d'Or. How about that for a reply? |
BlueRayDick:For Barça, it's because we had a mole and the greatest double agent in club football history as president destroying the club from within. Barça doesn't usually break the bank for signings. La Masia was the feeder team mostly. |
HafsaUmar:If you intend to create WordPress themes then you'd have to learn the required languages and apply them to WordPress development. For easy management by people who are not technically- inclined, it's better building using CRMs like WordPress then infusing all your coding skills into it to make it better. Dangote's website is built on WordPress software but the theme and many features are custom-coded. Even BBC too. |
Goodvibes007:There's a reason all your posts and replies are filled with "Lol" - it's because you are a simpleton. Life cursed you with an I.Q. and E.Q. lower than the inverse proportion of Baba60+'s age. Reminiscent of call girls and bimbos who would laugh to just anything. You are only wanted for your lips and what's in-between your thighs. Even at that, you are still discarded - confined to being the resident whôre on this thread seeking for love and attention from an old man with child support cases. |
Goodvibes007:But you are dumb, aren't you? I favoured you by gracing you with my replies for days and very single time, you have lost a false point you tried to make seem right. I've always posited GalacticHorde is unintelligent and I goaded you into making a fool of yourself every single time in the course of the last 5 days. That's for the 5 sense organs - none which seems to function properly - and you are more inferior than weather-beaten discarded anvil at a blacksmith's shop. I. even schooled you on how debates are held two days. ago and like an emotional-drained wrench way past menopause and lonely, you lost the debate to needless tantrums. You are Baba60+ sidepiece and I targeted you to taunt him - the very thing he treasures being mentally-screwed at every turn. |
Goodvibes007:Capitalism fuels development. This much is obvious. But you lied about Big Pharma donating vaccines and I evidenced all the supposed "donations" are paid for by governments, foundations and individuals - none is ever free. The drugs that were patented took years of research. Scientists and researchers have to get paid too. Just like you get paid at work.If Big Pharma was altruistic as you tried to make them seem, it wouldn't commercialise LIFE-SAVING vaccines and medications. It's driven by business. Just like helping you develop a website and make your brand/business isn't born out of altruism - the services help your brand I'd get money in return for the good did. Big Pharma has always been transactional. You said the drugs where paid for. By who? Bill Gates through his foundation paid for some and shipped to shithole countries in Africa. Same as Unicef and other UN organizations.You have the cognitive abilities of a toddler if you do not realise stating this corroborates my point that Bill Gates and several others pay for these medications and contradicts your earlier assertion that Big Pharma GAVE the world when they actual SOLD the breakthroughs to the world. All transactional and business and they are getting paid in return. They didn't do the world a favour. I can't claim to have given you a website when you actually paid for the website. I didn't do you a favour. If not for the inventions of the so called big pharma and those philanthropists paying so that beggers in Africa can get drugs, diseases like polio, small pox, ebola e.t.c will still be dealing with Africa well well.You and Baba60+ are more several times more likely to die from cancer than any other anyone resident in Africa or Asia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_cancer_rate In fact, chances are more likely that both of you are battling terminal cancer right now. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/cancer-rates-by-country You are more more likely to be shot dead and mugged tonight alone by a person with your skin colour than I would be throughout the rest of the year. https://www.google.com/search?q=highest+rate+of+black+on+black+violence You have a lot of worries here. I've warned you to be careful about your choice of words. I've deliberately played it calm for a week now - actually, I'm counting the days. If you are going to go the Baba60+ way of using incendiary words instead of reciprocating a courteous approach to debating, you know what happens next. Ice and fire can rain the same place. Be careful. It's the last time I'm going to warn you. Ignore this at your own peril. ![]() |
Goodvibes007:If you know anything about medical and physiology history and developments, you'd know Big Pharma didn't give the world life-saving vaccines - Big Pharma COMMERCIALIZED life-saving vaccines. The polio vaccines and ARVs were all paid for. Bill Gates didn't get it for free. USAID or UNICEF didn't get those medications for free - they were all paid for. Do you even know what Big Pharma means? It's a conglomerate of the biggest pharmaceutical companies and groups who control the prices and availability of just about any drug. Governments had to pay millions and billions to get the vaccines which only WHO - the mouthpiece of Big Pharma - approves. Any alternative which can't be readily commercialised is turned down. The Guyanese government in this case spent millions for the vaccine and even though the mortality and infection cases are down, it is forcing residents to take them because the vaccines would expire. Big Pharma has even placed a validity period on the vaccines and booster shots mean more money paid by governments. Everything I have stated has been confirmed. I've told you folks to be very careful when posting assumptions on this thread - I see everything and would sieve out your lies and ignorant takes. |
GeneralPula:He was silly to make his intentions too obvious. Too many Argentines and Brazilians (headed by Neymar) to make life hell for him. Ask Cavani what the Brazilian mafia in PSG did to him when he started a rivalry with Neymar. |
Kilishihunter:If Bartomeu had done this in an Italian club like Inter Milan or Napoli, the ultras would have lynched or even - this is a stretch - murdered him. |
Manshot1:That's the problem with you newts - you make sweeping generalisations. First off, conservativism isn't tied to any particular religion. Conservatism is an ideology sort of. China is also conservative in approach. Russia is more conservative than the U.S. Both Russia and China are not Christian countries. Just like Liberalism isn't a product of atheism. There are more religious people than atheists in the Democratic Party. In fact, the Left is dominated by religious extremists and diversity of religions, including Christian sects and extreme Islam. I swear you'd probably attended church or mosque programmes more times this year than I have in the last 5 years. ![]() I'm more spiritual than religious. Also, since you want me to school you, most of the greatest inventions we use today were brought about by very religious people. Kepler, Galileo, Einstein, Newton and several others were very open about being religious. Research this. Even today, the most advanced countries in the world today have at least half of their populations identifying as Christians. I don't do the bullshit assumptions many of you on the Left do here. I research and all my facts are proven. I'd assume you are new on this thread. Next time before you quote me, make sure your facts are solid 'cause you're dealing with the most analytical person you'd ever come across. And with the last comment you made, you used a seemingly discardable moniker to come at me because you are a coward. But check my antecedence: nobody is better at unmasking and linking persons than me. My advice: Suit up. Hades starts from here. |
There are massive protests going on in many parts of Guyana because of the enforced vaxx IDs and people being prevented from going to work or public places without vaccination and vaxx ID. It's threatening to turn violent with bridges and roads blocked and combat police being deployed. Businesses are shutdowning down and people are staying indoors. Big Pharma and the Left would be the death of civilisation as we know it. |
budaatum:Another one of them. I deliberately only posted links to Leftist media outlets who gaslight and push liberal ideas debating and conceding cancel culture stems from liberalism but they argue it is stemming out of control and destroying the Left and what it is founded on. In just 3 minutes of posting those 3 links to very lengthy articles, you quoted me to try to claim it disproves it when each of those articles are at least 10 minutes of reading which means you would have needed AT LEAST 30 minutes to read everything. That's another proof that you don't read or bother about the truth but parrot your own assumptions. Just like you were going on two days ago that man can stop global warming even though scientists agree global warming happens at least every 100,000 years even before man came to be. See? You are very easy to find and figure out. ![]() Budaatum, Head of Hypocrisy Content Creation (HHCC); Director of Gaslighting (DOG); Falsehood Spinners Inc. You better copy this then inscribe it on your Nairaland profile. I'm helping to brand you free of charge. You're welcome. |
benalvino3:These Leftist dimwits on this thread and beyond try to rewrite history when is already documented. There have been countless whitepapers on the origins of cancel culture and even by the Leftist media outlets, and everything points to liberalism - the every ideology which drives the Left/Democrats and which birthed wokeness - is the very cause of cancel culture. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/dr-seuss-cancel-racism-cartoons-b1812102.html https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55959135 https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/opinion/cancel-culture-.html These featherbrained newts try to turn truths on its head just like Yokozuna and his zombies on this thread tried to make it look like the Republican Party was the party of slave owners even when it is documented that Democrats were the slavemasters and fought against the abolition of slavery while the Republican Party was for civil rights. MLK Jnr warned about the Democrats. This much is public. |
Manshot1:The Right aren't the ones who are woke and pious. The Left are. The Left are the ones who push extreme liberal ideas like holding a random woman's hands to cross a busy road could be termed as sexual assault because she later claimed she felt violated by you touching her hands even though all you did was help her and move on. The Left pushes ideas like you could be accused of sexual assault for staring at a woman who is half-naked standing in public or even twerking. There's a recent case like this in the news. If you do not understand the origins and those who push and promote cancel culture or are playing blind to the obvious, then man you've been shot with the hypocrisy dart. |
stillGBNL:You're going about in circles and that's not how to debate. Learn to do so and not just jump from point to point without doubling down on any. We moved from Enugurangèrs posting the Right is to blame for Cuomo resigining which I countered evidently to you stating cancel culture is a construct of the Right which I corrected that it is a construct of Liberalism - the very ideology which drives the Left -and asking that you research the origins of cancel culture and that it is pushed by the woke, Leftist media. Even a white woman who braids her hair like Kim Kardashian and Adele would be cancelled - both were lynched by the media for braiding their hair as "cultural appropriation of black culture" even though hair braiding has always been part of Aryan (white) people - Vikings and the likes. Your next reply should have been countering my point that cancel culture is a construct of the Left/Liberalism by providing evidence that it has always been part of conservativism. In then end, when we follow this debating style, we would go right back to the original point -: Is the Left being hypocritical by allowing Joe Biden stay on and no t insisting he resigns based on the sexual assaults allegations against him like they do to others? This is how debates are held. You don't jump from point to point, firing in every direction. Every subpoint should give credence to your stance which brought about the debate. You fire at a spot from all angles but make a bigger hole. |
Goodvibes007:I did. At no point did he claim the Left was pressured Cuomo to resign and I had to call him out on it because both sides actually did. It's politics. If my rival wants to insist on self-imploding, by all means I'd let him implode. That's how politics works. You don't defend your adversary. You said the left push cancel culture and not the right? That's a lie. Trump is a professional at cancellation. See list below. The list is even missing Goodyear, Coca Cola and the numerous amount of GOP he wants to cancel like the Senators that voted to support the infrastructure bill.Easy now. You are crossing a line. Same mistake Obrigado makes/made with me - using incendiary words which ruin any progress made while debating. Choose your words more carefully. Cancel Culture is way more than politics. You should research on its origin and how it is deeply-rooted in liberalism. For academic and debating reasons, do research origins of these things and not just based on your assumed definitions of them. Cancel Culture was birthed and drives the Left. Even Eskimo which is an actual term is now considered offensive by the woke Left. Even the words "dwarf" and "midget" would get you canceled by the Left. They prefer "Little People". Read up on these things and terms and their prevalence in today's world. |
Enugurangers:Here's the thing: If you claim God doesn't exist, the onus is on you making the claim to prove it. If you claim you on the Left are the pious ones, the onus is on the Left to further that rhetoric by always being pious and upright. The Left are the ones who push cancel culture, not the Right. Trump didn't have to resign based on allegations. Cancel Culture is a weapon. Same allegations which wanted Kavangh removed and prosecuted and didn't put the onus of proof on the accusers? Same allegations Amber Heard against Johnny Depp which got him canceled from Hollywood without proof and is still canceled and smeared even though evidence prove Amber was the abuser? Asides the paedophilic incest (incest isn't just full penetration by the way) with Biden's granddaughter on live television, SOME of the allegations against him have just been allegations. But, according to the Left, all women must be believed so, like, Cuomo, why hasn't Biden resigned? Why did he even continue in the POTUS race? It is ironic that while PrideofLincoln is claiming and bragging the Left forced Cuomo to resign because they don't tolerate misdemeanors/vices, you on the other hand are claiming the Right forced Cuomo to resign. Stick to one storyline. You want to take the credit for cancel culture but shift the blame of cancel culture at the same time. |
Enugurangers:No, the Left are the ones who started and enforce Cancel Culture. Cancel Culture also birthed the extreme #MeToo which posits that a woman's accusations must be believed instantly even without evidence or solid witnesses. You said "Biden had paedophilia incest with his grand daughter". Where did you get this from? Any proof..Do you need me to repost pictures and videos of Biden groping and french-kissing his granddaughter onstage on his Campaign Trail? The videos and pictures are everywhere and on verified news channels platforms too. He also has several sexual assault allegations but you deliberately ignored that to question a fact that's everywhere. It's hypocrisy for him to support Cuomo's resignation while he's not doing same with the several allegations against him. In fact, Biden's accusers are more vocal than Cuomo's. Selective "justice" isn't justice. Let the Cancel Culture run its full course. Hypocrisy of the Left. |
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