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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DissTroy(m):
timbros:
Na wao.... This is not the answer to my question nah.
You are going around in circles and deliberately ignoring the fact but I'd break it down.

Your question was, if Messi as an attacker is being judged with goals and assists, what would a midfielder like Jorginho be judged with?

I replied by staying Messi has always been judged with more than his goal contributions.

A midfielder is supposed to be judged by indices such as pass completion date, dirbbles completed, take-ons, playmaking and even assists (but I'd deliberately ignore assists).

I'd we judge Balon d'Or for midfield roles, Kante is even above Jorginho.

Messi has bossed the very roles expected of a midfielder. Screw it! If you watch football games Messi features in closely in the last few years, you wouldn't even have asked me that question - Messi has been dropping deep to play as a midfielder too.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DissTroy(m): 6:23pm On Aug 13, 2021
Jodera:
Now I'm not saying jorg was their best player in EPL, but if he wins UCL best midfielder, it automatically means he was very very influential in their run to cl win, very influential to their euro win and like I said, he midfielder's stat as a deep lying playmaker is impressive in euros and Cl.
If we are actually being honest, Jorginho isn't even the best midfielder at Chelsea - Kante is. Arguably Chelsea's best player. Why nobody is making a case for him or did so in 2018 beats me. Any top team would be glad to have him.

To be sincere, if messi hadn't had this copa America effort, it would have been difficult to lay a claim on that balon dor
But he won it so the whataboutism and whatifs are just wishful thinking.

I know it might be difficult to take, but your club progress is also a factor too not just solely individual stats
Club progress: Copa Del Rey. UCL Quarterfinals. Tight League race and in top three.

Individual statistics: Astronomical. And Balon is an individual award so go figure.

So I ask... What's the difference between 2020/2021 messi exploit and 2017/2018 messi exploit assuming messi didn't win the copa America nor had such an exploit in it?
What's the difference copper and Cu? Semantics but the same element.

Again, he won the Copa America and not just win it but boss it in every statistics. And you can't take it away from him. There's no assumption to be had - he won it.

Singular most outstanding player in any tournament this season (Euros and Copa).

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DissTroy(m): 4:50pm On Aug 13, 2021
timbros:
Quick one... If Messi is judged by goals and assists as an attacker, what will Jorginho be judged by? Also what criteria will the body use in awarding Balon d'or when it comes to attacker vs midfielder?
Good thing you brought this up.

Messi has always been more than just goals and assists. Always. That's why his supporters get irate when Ronaldo, who's just a goalscorer, is compared to him.

Goals, assists, chances created, playmaking, dribbling... Several indices. We are talking superhuman mode here. smiley

Romance › Re: You Ask A Lady Out But She Bluntly Asks "Do You Want To Have Sex? by DissTroy(m): 4:07pm On Aug 13, 2021
Most times, females who ask such questions tend to be very transactional with sex. Sex to them is a bargaining tool and she wouldn't think twice about sleeping with her landlord in lieu of rent payment or when asked after a job offer.

Transactional sex or the suggestion of it is a no-no to me. Do it because you enjoy it, not as a currency.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DissTroy(m): 3:36pm On Aug 13, 2021
Jodera:
Okayy, Simple Question:
Who won Barca's player of the year last season??


Like I said, I am aware of all messi's stat (I'm a messi fan), but let's be logical. All his highest goal, highest assist and so on led his team(A whole barca) to 3rd place in la liga, while he won only copa del rey.

It's unheard of for barca to be 3rd and that would have been a big dent on messi extraordinary year. His copa win and exploits really tilt the balon dor back to his favor, else... grin
If you have to declare "I am a Messi fan", you are trying to cover up for something obvious - veiled antagonism, but want to be accepted as stating the truth. Simple reverse psychology. I didn't need to state I am a Messi fan - my choice of words made that obvious.

In the 2011/2012 season when Messi won the Balon d'Or, Barcelona didn't the the La Liga and UCL but won the Copa del Rey.
Spain also won the Euros with many outstanding Barcelona players in the squad.

It wasn't a Copa America year and he had lost the one in the previous year.

But Balon d'Or is an individual award for the most outstanding player, not team, so he won it based on his statistics.

This year he has more: Copa del Rey and Copa America.
Chart-topping goals for both competitions and already won awards to this fact.

In anything, winning the Copa America for Argentina, Copa del Rey for Barcelona and his winning statistics made the year a more rewarding one than 2011/2012.

Get with the programme, Jodera.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DissTroy(m):
BlueAngel444:
I have removed some of his mentions, I would have quoted something for you to see. He pathetically deludes himself and will attack anyone that suggests to challenge his myopia.
You would come third best in any I.Q. test against a stone and rusty doorknob. You come on the Barcelona thread to troll and I beat you back to civility with scathing facts.

You'd rebuild your confidence for a week then think you can square up to me. None has been able to best me and none would. I'd never partake in an argument I have no evidence for.

You are the resident troll in this section, treated even less than a skinny leper reclining by an overflowing drainage.

Keep your inanities and simpleton-esque exchanges to you and your ilk. I only debate intelligent people who know how to shelve their emotionality and gaslighting for evidence-based debates and arguments. smiley
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DissTroy(m): 3:01pm On Aug 13, 2021
Jodera:
Mehn, you're being emotional right now. Let's be logical (I know you as someone who is one).
Now note, I'm not a Jorginho fan here, but I'm just putting forward a valid argument if he wins UCL midfielder of the year.
I don't do emotions. Emotions are an anathema to rationality. What I do indulge and revel in, however, are facts - evidentially-proven facts.[/quote]
La liga don't give best player award recently unlike EPL, so the only metric we'll use is Barca's best player of the season which was won by De Jong, not messi.

I know of Messi's stats as an attacker, but even Jorginho have incredible stats In euros, coupled with his accomplishments. Like I said earlier, the copa messi won will tilt it to his favor.
What are rewriting history as we know it and spewing alternate facts?

Messi, even in the just-concluded season, was the best player in Spain (not even Barcelona) - goals, assists, goal contributions,

Highest goalscorer and assist-maker in La Liga in 2020/2021 season:
https://1xbet.whoscored.com/Regions/206/Tournaments/4/Seasons/8321/Spain-LaLiga

Highest Barcelona scorer and assist-maker in the 2020/2021 season:

In fact, Griezmann comes next before De Jong.
https://1xbet.whoscored.com/Regions/206/Tournaments/14/Spain-Copa-del-Rey


Highest dribbles and passes. What are you on about?
I don't do emotions or presumptuous claims based on hearsay. I do facts and facts only. smiley
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DissTroy(m): 2:26pm On Aug 13, 2021
Jodera:
Lol... It's copa that gave messi advantage na. Wasn't still this same messi era modric won it?

Also messi didn't win barca best player same as Jorginho.
What on God's green earth are you on about? Messi didn't win Barça best player when he's been the best in the La Liga as a whole and in the world?

Are you trolling now? Even if you are a LiveScore soccer pundit, the stats are there to show. Don't embarrass yourself in public.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DissTroy(m): 12:51pm On Aug 13, 2021
Jodera:
Not saying he's favourite but Jorginhofc will have a strong point to hold on to.

Assuming he wins it, this will be the argument

1... Cl winner
2.. Euros winner
3... Euros team of the tournament
4... Cl team of the tournament
5... Cl best midfielder

Looking at all these, isn't it valid enough for fair argument?? grin
In any other era, this would fly; but in this Messi empire, nobody else seems good enough.

My advice: Cryogenics - every other Balon d'Or hopeful should just slow aging by freezing themselves till Messi is kind enough to retire from football.
Neymar has always given up and embraced his fate. The rest should. It's a no-brainer.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DissTroy(m): 12:19pm On Aug 13, 2021
Jodera:
If Jorginho wins this, then Jorginhofc have some balon dor shouts grin
He's not even the best player in the Italy or Chelsea squad.

But dreams come true...when you go back to sleep again.
Celebrities › Re: Chika Ike Visits Her New House Under Construction And Joined The Workers To Work by DissTroy(m): 12:04pm On Aug 13, 2021
J2381:
ma main man, can I ask who is your idle beautiful woman?
We all have the general idea of beauty for females - certain facial structures, lips, eyes, nose...

But my ideal beautiful woman is one who is comfortable in her skin - who looks just as aesthetically attractive in person like she does in pictures (most of which are doctored).

If she feels uncomfortable without those aesthetic augmentations, she's not beautiful to me. It's so bad these days that women want to be celebrated for going without makeup, calling themselves "courageous" and "bold" - something men do everyday of our lives.
Celebrities › Re: Chika Ike Visits Her New House Under Construction And Joined The Workers To Work by DissTroy(m): 10:03am On Aug 13, 2021
Finestgal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2qrvLiLAXI

Chika Ike visits her new house under construction and joined the workers to work
Funny how basic and plain most of these supposed "most beautiful celebrities" look without the made-up faces and edited pictures.

She's not bad but she's created an image of extreme beautiful and without those accessories, she looks less attractive. Never been a fan of heavy makeup and photoshoots.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DissTroy(m): 11:22pm On Aug 12, 2021
BlueAngel444:
says a club that signed Ronaldinho, Eto, Henry, Ibrahimovic, Neymar, Suarez undecided just because new Neymar project failed and the continuation Coutinho flopped even though Greez was added to the mix
You obviously were jaundiced to the comment I made about Bartomeu ruining Barça from within with outrageous signings and wages.

Ronaldinho was the hottest player in football when Barça signed him for $30 million; Eto'o and Henry, hot as they were, weren't world record signings.

Griezmann should never have dorned a Barça shirt.

Still, in the last 20 years, Barça is the only top ten football club which has been most reliant on its academy players and always phase them into the main team.

Bartomeu ruined most of that and we criticise him accordingly.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DissTroy(m): 9:34pm On Aug 12, 2021
CSTRR:
Maybe he is trying to diversify for when he retires.

He has good acting skills that would fetch him good money when he leaves football.
True. Merry Christmas. It's snowing trophies.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DissTroy(m): 9:15pm On Aug 12, 2021
CSTRR:
Messi is the only human I know that cries of heartbreak after securing a £1million a week deal.

Wonderful actor. Deserves an Oscar.
Actually, Messi has football's equivalent of the Oscar and has done so six times with the seventh most probable - Balon d'Or.

How about that for a reply?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by DissTroy(m): 9:13pm On Aug 12, 2021
BlueRayDick:
You are just turning amala as u like.

If Madrid don't have to pay shishi to get top player because of Ronaldo why did they pay a record fee of over 85m Euros for bale ?

If Barca don’t need to pay shishi to get top players because Messi makes the club attractive , why did they pay as much as they did to get De Jong , Griezmann ?

You see say ur theory no pass the first test sef.

Those clubs are attractive to players because of their history , honors won in the past and great players that have worn their colors . Players have been dreaming to play for Madrid before Ororo got into Sporting’s Acaddemy , before Messi enter La masia sef .
For Barça, it's because we had a mole and the greatest double agent in club football history as president destroying the club from within.

Barça doesn't usually break the bank for signings. La Masia was the feeder team mostly.
Programming › Re: Wordpress Or Build From Scratch, Which Is It To Be? by DissTroy(m):
HafsaUmar:
If it's a three page website to showcase services, portfolio or a blog, I'd rather use wordpress than to build from scratch.

Because it gets the work down efficiently and gives client maximum control on the site, scalability also, maybe later if there's need to extend the site's features.

I really want to learn wordpress, I've seen a lot of remote wordpress jobs on LinkedIn, especially for those that can create themes and plugins from scratch.

Deuces.
If you intend to create WordPress themes then you'd have to learn the required languages and apply them to WordPress development.

For easy management by people who are not technically- inclined, it's better building using CRMs like WordPress then infusing all your coding skills into it to make it better.

Dangote's website is built on WordPress software but the theme and many features are custom-coded. Even BBC too.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DissTroy(m): 7:02pm On Aug 12, 2021
Goodvibes007:
You are just a loud mouth empty barrel that has a brain full of mucous. That's what you are Lol.
There's a reason all your posts and replies are filled with "Lol" - it's because you are a simpleton.
Life cursed you with an I.Q. and E.Q. lower than the inverse proportion of Baba60+'s age.

Reminiscent of call girls and bimbos who would laugh to just anything. You are only wanted for your lips and what's in-between your thighs. Even at that, you are still discarded - confined to being the resident whôre on this thread seeking for love and attention from an old man with child support cases.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DissTroy(m): 6:55pm On Aug 12, 2021
Goodvibes007:
Can't you just summarize your post into a few words. I cant be bothered to read all the jargons you posted up there.
But you are dumb, aren't you? I favoured you by gracing you with my replies for days and very single time, you have lost a false point you tried to make seem right.

I've always posited GalacticHorde is unintelligent and I goaded you into making a fool of yourself every single time in the course of the last 5 days.

That's for the 5 sense organs - none which seems to function properly - and you are more inferior than weather-beaten discarded anvil at a blacksmith's shop.

I. even schooled you on how debates are held two days. ago and like an emotional-drained wrench way past menopause and lonely, you lost the debate to needless tantrums.

You are Baba60+ sidepiece and I targeted you to taunt him - the very thing he treasures being mentally-screwed at every turn.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DissTroy(m): 6:45pm On Aug 12, 2021
Goodvibes007:
Don't you republicans wannabes like capitalism again?
Capitalism fuels development. This much is obvious. But you lied about Big Pharma donating vaccines and I evidenced all the supposed "donations" are paid for by governments, foundations and individuals - none is ever free.

The drugs that were patented took years of research. Scientists and researchers have to get paid too. Just like you get paid at work.
If Big Pharma was altruistic as you tried to make them seem, it wouldn't commercialise LIFE-SAVING vaccines and medications. It's driven by business.

Just like helping you develop a website and make your brand/business isn't born out of altruism - the services help your brand I'd get money in return for the good did. Big Pharma has always been transactional.
You said the drugs where paid for. By who? Bill Gates through his foundation paid for some and shipped to shithole countries in Africa. Same as Unicef and other UN organizations.
You have the cognitive abilities of a toddler if you do not realise stating this corroborates my point that Bill Gates and several others pay for these medications and contradicts your earlier assertion that Big Pharma GAVE the world when they actual SOLD the breakthroughs to the world. All transactional and business and they are getting paid in return. They didn't do the world a favour.

I can't claim to have given you a website when you actually paid for the website. I didn't do you a favour.
If not for the inventions of the so called big pharma and those philanthropists paying so that beggers in Africa can get drugs, diseases like polio, small pox, ebola e.t.c will still be dealing with Africa well well.
You and Baba60+ are more several times more likely to die from cancer than any other anyone resident in Africa or Asia:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_cancer_rate

In fact, chances are more likely that both of you are battling terminal cancer right now.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/cancer-rates-by-country


You are more more likely to be shot dead and mugged tonight alone by a person with your skin colour than I would be throughout the rest of the year. https://www.google.com/search?q=highest+rate+of+black+on+black+violence

You have a lot of worries here.

I've warned you to be careful about your choice of words. I've deliberately played it calm for a week now - actually, I'm counting the days. If you are going to go the Baba60+ way of using incendiary words instead of reciprocating a courteous approach to debating, you know what happens next. Ice and fire can rain the same place. Be careful. It's the last time I'm going to warn you. Ignore this at your own peril. smiley
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DissTroy(m): 5:53pm On Aug 12, 2021
Goodvibes007:
Liberal People like Bill Gates that donates generously to Africa and also helped to eradicate the poliovirus in Nigeria, or for letting you learn some bit of MS Office.

Descendants of Muslim immigrant like Steve Jobs, or the Liberal descendant of refugee/immigrant like Sergey of Google, or the Democrat loving Larry of Google that lets you post from your android phone.

I don't see how civilization is being destroyed by the left or big pharma. Big pharmas have given the world lots of life saving medications too.

If you multiply the population of Guyana by 2, it's not even up to that of Bayelsa (state with lowest population in Nigeria). The pic below is from the protest in Guyana. Atleast, they are smart enough to wear masks.
If you know anything about medical and physiology history and developments, you'd know Big Pharma didn't give the world life-saving vaccines - Big Pharma COMMERCIALIZED life-saving vaccines.

The polio vaccines and ARVs were all paid for. Bill Gates didn't get it for free. USAID or UNICEF didn't get those medications for free - they were all paid for.

Do you even know what Big Pharma means? It's a conglomerate of the biggest pharmaceutical companies and groups who control the prices and availability of just about any drug.

Governments had to pay millions and billions to get the vaccines which only WHO - the mouthpiece of Big Pharma - approves. Any alternative which can't be readily commercialised is turned down.

The Guyanese government in this case spent millions for the vaccine and even though the mortality and infection cases are down, it is forcing residents to take them because the vaccines would expire.

Big Pharma has even placed a validity period on the vaccines and booster shots mean more money paid by governments.

Everything I have stated has been confirmed.

I've told you folks to be very careful when posting assumptions on this thread - I see everything and would sieve out your lies and ignorant takes.
Sports › Re: Mbappe Tells PSG He Wants To Leave For Real Madrid After Messi Joins Club by DissTroy(m): 12:09pm On Aug 12, 2021
GeneralPula:
Way to go..

He’s PSG engine room in reality..

He’s suppose to leave cuz he’ll work and that dwarf will take his shine..
He was silly to make his intentions too obvious. Too many Argentines and Brazilians (headed by Neymar) to make life hell for him.

Ask Cavani what the Brazilian mafia in PSG did to him when he started a rivalry with Neymar.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by DissTroy(m): 11:19am On Aug 12, 2021
Kilishihunter:
Not as if he's playing anything reasonable, he'll just be collecting bogus salary but when he puts on the french jersey he'll be in beast mode, that's if they'll even call him again, laslas he'll either be sent to Barca b or continue to be used sparingly as usual, Bartomeu should never be made the head of anything in his life again even his own family
If Bartomeu had done this in an Italian club like Inter Milan or Napoli, the ultras would have lynched or even - this is a stretch - murdered him.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DissTroy(m): 9:10am On Aug 12, 2021
Manshot1:
Yes na..they will be the end of civilisation. Yet the phone and the Internet you use were made possible by libs. Tell me,what exactly have you so called Bible believing hypocritical conservative Christians done to help human living?Tell me.

Them say make you take vaccine make you and your loved ones no die,you say na die you wan die. Go and die naa..

Mumu
That's the problem with you newts - you make sweeping generalisations. First off, conservativism isn't tied to any particular religion.

Conservatism is an ideology sort of. China is also conservative in approach. Russia is more conservative than the U.S. Both Russia and China are not Christian countries.

Just like Liberalism isn't a product of atheism. There are more religious people than atheists in the Democratic Party. In fact, the Left is dominated by religious extremists and diversity of religions, including Christian sects and extreme Islam.

I swear you'd probably attended church or mosque programmes more times this year than I have in the last 5 years. smiley
I'm more spiritual than religious.



Also, since you want me to school you, most of the greatest inventions we use today were brought about by very religious people.

Kepler, Galileo, Einstein, Newton and several others were very open about being religious. Research this.

Even today, the most advanced countries in the world today have at least half of their populations identifying as Christians.

I don't do the bullshit assumptions many of you on the Left do here. I research and all my facts are proven. I'd assume you are new on this thread.
Next time before you quote me, make sure your facts are solid 'cause you're dealing with the most analytical person you'd ever come across.

And with the last comment you made, you used a seemingly discardable moniker to come at me because you are a coward. But check my antecedence: nobody is better at unmasking and linking persons than me.

My advice: Suit up. Hades starts from here.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DissTroy(m): 11:47pm On Aug 11, 2021
There are massive protests going on in many parts of Guyana because of the enforced vaxx IDs and people being prevented from going to work or public places without vaccination and vaxx ID.

It's threatening to turn violent with bridges and roads blocked and combat police being deployed.

Businesses are shutdowning down and people are staying indoors.

Big Pharma and the Left would be the death of civilisation as we know it.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DissTroy(m): 1:58pm On Aug 11, 2021
budaatum:
Make sure you all read the above please. You might notice a "featherbrained newt" trying to turn truths on its head just as 'they' often do on this thread!
Another one of them. I deliberately only posted links to Leftist media outlets who gaslight and push liberal ideas debating and conceding cancel culture stems from liberalism but they argue it is stemming out of control and destroying the Left and what it is founded on.

In just 3 minutes of posting those 3 links to very lengthy articles, you quoted me to try to claim it disproves it when each of those articles are at least 10 minutes of reading which means you would have needed AT LEAST 30 minutes to read everything.

That's another proof that you don't read or bother about the truth but parrot your own assumptions. Just like you were going on two days ago that man can stop global warming even though scientists agree global warming happens at least every 100,000 years even before man came to be.

See? You are very easy to find and figure out. smiley

Budaatum,
Head of Hypocrisy Content Creation (HHCC);
Director of Gaslighting (DOG);
Falsehood Spinners Inc.

You better copy this then inscribe it on your Nairaland profile. I'm helping to brand you free of charge. You're welcome.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DissTroy(m):
benalvino3:
well, it has been a weapon for ages, they try it from time to time. even trump knows this and he knows how politics harvests these kind of things

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mxiqYkJKeE
These Leftist dimwits on this thread and beyond try to rewrite history when is already documented. There have been countless whitepapers on the origins of cancel culture and even by the Leftist media outlets, and everything points to liberalism - the every ideology which drives the Left/Democrats and which birthed wokeness - is the very cause of cancel culture.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/dr-seuss-cancel-racism-cartoons-b1812102.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55959135

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/opinion/cancel-culture-.html

These featherbrained newts try to turn truths on its head just like Yokozuna and his zombies on this thread tried to make it look like the Republican Party was the party of slave owners even when it is documented that Democrats were the slavemasters and fought against the abolition of slavery while the Republican Party was for civil rights. MLK Jnr warned about the Democrats. This much is public.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DissTroy(m): 12:52pm On Aug 11, 2021
Manshot1:
And when will trump go to jail for grabbing women by the pussy?
The Right aren't the ones who are woke and pious. The Left are. The Left are the ones who push extreme liberal ideas like holding a random woman's hands to cross a busy road could be termed as sexual assault because she later claimed she felt violated by you touching her hands even though all you did was help her and move on.

The Left pushes ideas like you could be accused of sexual assault for staring at a woman who is half-naked standing in public or even twerking. There's a recent case like this in the news.

If you do not understand the origins and those who push and promote cancel culture or are playing blind to the obvious, then man you've been shot with the hypocrisy dart.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DissTroy(m): 9:32pm On Aug 10, 2021
stillGBNL:
Spam bot got me.

Trump's cancel culture by goes way back 2012. Lol
You're going about in circles and that's not how to debate. Learn to do so and not just jump from point to point without doubling down on any.

We moved from Enugurangèrs posting the Right is to blame for Cuomo resigining which I countered evidently to you stating cancel culture is a construct of the Right which I corrected that it is a construct of Liberalism - the very ideology which drives the Left -and asking that you research the origins of cancel culture and that it is pushed by the woke, Leftist media.

Even a white woman who braids her hair like Kim Kardashian and Adele would be cancelled - both were lynched by the media for braiding their hair as "cultural appropriation of black culture" even though hair braiding has always been part of Aryan (white) people - Vikings and the likes.

Your next reply should have been countering my point that cancel culture is a construct of the Left/Liberalism by providing evidence that it has always been part of conservativism.

In then end, when we follow this debating style, we would go right back to the original point -: Is the Left being hypocritical by allowing Joe Biden stay on and no t insisting he resigns based on the sexual assaults allegations against him like they do to others?

This is how debates are held. You don't jump from point to point, firing in every direction. Every subpoint should give credence to your stance which brought about the debate. You fire at a spot from all angles but make a bigger hole.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DissTroy(m): 9:08pm On Aug 10, 2021
Goodvibes007:
You did not read his post to understand. He said the right called for his resignation. This doesn't mean the left weren't also calling for his resignation. The call for resignation was loudest from the left. The right just wanted to get back at Cuomo.

Anyway, I wonder when the right would start calling for Gaetz resignation in large numbers or even in few numbers as they have jointly called for Cuomo's resignation.
I did. At no point did he claim the Left was pressured Cuomo to resign and I had to call him out on it because both sides actually did.
It's politics. If my rival wants to insist on self-imploding, by all means I'd let him implode. That's how politics works. You don't defend your adversary.

You said the left push cancel culture and not the right? That's a lie. Trump is a professional at cancellation. See list below. The list is even missing Goodyear, Coca Cola and the numerous amount of GOP he wants to cancel like the Senators that voted to support the infrastructure bill.
Easy now. You are crossing a line. Same mistake Obrigado makes/made with me - using incendiary words which ruin any progress made while debating. Choose your words more carefully.

Cancel Culture is way more than politics. You should research on its origin and how it is deeply-rooted in liberalism. For academic and debating reasons, do research origins of these things and not just based on your assumed definitions of them.

Cancel Culture was birthed and drives the Left. Even Eskimo which is an actual term is now considered offensive by the woke Left.

Even the words "dwarf" and "midget" would get you canceled by the Left. They prefer "Little People". Read up on these things and terms and their prevalence in today's world.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DissTroy(m): 8:32pm On Aug 10, 2021
Enugurangers:
No one has monopoly of pictures or videos. If you post that of Biden planting a kiss on his granddaughter's lips, the left can also post that of Trump kissing Ivanka on his lips and groping Ivanka even as a kid. Since that is what you term paedophilea. That means Trump is just as guilty as Biden.

As per who started the cancel culture, that's just deflection on your part as your post is everywhere. People can also argue that it was started by the right wing voters as well. If I remember, I first heard about cancel culture way back in 2014. It's hypocrisy for right wingers to call for Cuomo's resignation as well when they didn't call for Trump or Gaetz to resign.

The Dems atleast have morals by calling on their own to resign and clear the allegations against him. Is that hypocrisy to you?

That is something that is lacking in the GOP. Calling out their own.

You also claim that cancel culture by the left birthed the "Me too" movement. The same movement got the Hollywood guy (a democrat) Does that look like hypocrisy to you?

Actually, me too contained women from both left and right, but your bias won't let you see that.

This is my last reply to you as I don't like getting into meaningless arguments on the internet, hence I often avoid commenting on this thread.
Here's the thing: If you claim God doesn't exist, the onus is on you making the claim to prove it.
If you claim you on the Left are the pious ones, the onus is on the Left to further that rhetoric by always being pious and upright.

The Left are the ones who push cancel culture, not the Right. Trump didn't have to resign based on allegations. Cancel Culture is a weapon.
Same allegations which wanted Kavangh removed and prosecuted and didn't put the onus of proof on the accusers?
Same allegations Amber Heard against Johnny Depp which got him canceled from Hollywood without proof and is still canceled and smeared even though evidence prove Amber was the abuser?

Asides the paedophilic incest (incest isn't just full penetration by the way) with Biden's granddaughter on live television, SOME of the allegations against him have just been allegations. But, according to the Left, all women must be believed so, like, Cuomo, why hasn't Biden resigned? Why did he even continue in the POTUS race?


It is ironic that while PrideofLincoln is claiming and bragging the Left forced Cuomo to resign because they don't tolerate misdemeanors/vices, you on the other hand are claiming the Right forced Cuomo to resign.
Stick to one storyline. You want to take the credit for cancel culture but shift the blame of cancel culture at the same time.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DissTroy(m): 8:00pm On Aug 10, 2021
Enugurangers:
Wow. This is rich coming from you.

I remember Trump had accusers too. Over 20 of them. He still doesn't want to submit his DNA till date. Did he resign?
No, the Left are the ones who started and enforce Cancel Culture. Cancel Culture also birthed the extreme #MeToo which posits that a woman's accusations must be believed instantly even without evidence or solid witnesses.
You said "Biden had paedophilia incest with his grand daughter". Where did you get this from? Any proof..
Do you need me to repost pictures and videos of Biden groping and french-kissing his granddaughter onstage on his Campaign Trail?

The videos and pictures are everywhere and on verified news channels platforms too.

He also has several sexual assault allegations but you deliberately ignored that to question a fact that's everywhere.

It's hypocrisy for him to support Cuomo's resignation while he's not doing same with the several allegations against him. In fact, Biden's accusers are more vocal than Cuomo's.


Selective "justice" isn't justice. Let the Cancel Culture run its full course.

Hypocrisy of the Left.

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