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Joe Biden's countless sexual allegations are more weighty than Cuomo's though.

In fact, Biden's accusers have been more forthcoming in testifying against him than Cuomo's.

Since Biden supported Cuomo's resignation, he himself should resign - sexual allegations by several women who he also groped and paedophilic incest with his granddaughter.

budaatum:
Sorry diss. I do not share this view.

It's alright. There are people who don't share the view that the earth is round too and would rather believe it's flat even with all the evidence to support the round fact. Their opinions as free as they are wouldn't change the earth being what it is.

The earth would continue to warm up then freeze up then warm up again. By the time all of these go full circle, everyone on this thread would be archeological findings excavated from buried pits and covered by sediments and silt of over 20 - 30 meters thick.

budaatum:
As I said, if we all fart in a stadium our noses might experience some irritation at some point, and if we keep on farting that irritation and is bound to increase.

That's only true given the condition that the stadium is sealed and has no air conditioning. But the stadium does. Ozone, ocean and vegetation purification. Our fart/carbon emission regardless.

I for one know that the next time you invite me to that stadium where everyone farts, I'd apologise and give it a miss thank you very much, and I'd even not mind if you claim its because I am arrogant.

Well, we can't just leave the earth currently, can we? We are stuck in this stadium. The match never ends.

Sorry diss, I just do not see us as "miniscule in the scheme of thing" as you seem to think you are. If this were the religious section, I'd go as far as claiming I look at diss and I see god. The lens that I see through makes you seem much bigger and powerful to me, and I do wish I could lend it you so you too see what I see.

We are miniscule in the outcome of things. The way the earth works. We can't alter fixed physical laws like revolution or rotation, or move our planet out of its orbit to a slightly colder region of the solar system or stuff like that.
But we can do things like revegetation and be kind to each other and be thoughtful about what we do to the environment to make our finite human existence more livable and enjoyable.
I'd be dead and gone and the game would go on but I'd at least not come to your area to fart while I enjoy my less stinky axis and not try to clog the air conditioning system in the stadium.

[b]
few pages back I argued how powerful we can be to make a difference in Nigerian polictics. No one agreed with me of course, but the same 'we are powerful' applies to our effect on the climate of earth, as far as I am concerned, but do know that I understand some are indeed miniscully powerless.

Nigerian politics or the Nigerian fate is basically
our human experience which we have control of.
Whether everyone has enough to eat and stay healthy or most die of kwashiorkor and live in squalor have nothing to do with the earth eventually warming up or cooling down or rotation, or revolution.

We are just doing those to enjoy our finite human experience and existence.

budaatum:
I kind of feel if every one farts in this stadium of your's we'd all be holding our noses, after all, it's not as if there is any claim that only two of us are warming the globe with our farts.

That's the thing - you and I compared to the stadium size is representative of the total number of humans compared to the earth's size.

Remember water covers over 70 percent of the earth's surface and humans live in less than half of the remaining 30 percent land.

From land surface to the atmosphere is about 70 miles - way more than the comparative distance between both of us' seats and the stadium rooftop.

As the ozone layer is repairing itself, the earth's vegetation and oceans are purifying the air we breathe.

Humans are miniscule in the scheme of thing. Our arrogance makes us think we can change the earth's fate temperature-wise.

DropsMic:
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If there's anything you need to know in life, it's this... Be very wary of religious people... be very WARY

Now someone gets it. Even as one who believes in God, as much you can avoid religious people, especially the "My daddy-in-Lord said" ones.

Goodvibes007:
China needs to develop its economy and that is heavily reliable on carbon. That has always been their issue.
That's why I said it's trying its best. The country is trying to balance both despite pressure from other Western nations.

Carbon capture technology in itself is cutting down on emission. No matter how little the cutting is. It's still cutting.

As usual, Western nation would push for countries like China to do more.

The bolded brings us back to the premise of this back-and-forth:

Would all that human-induced carbon emissions stop global warming from happening?

You and Budaa had posited it would which why I really joined this debate, proving that it wouldn't, global warming and cooking/freezing are really out of the control of humans. And the earth has been warming and cooling for millions of years.

In fact, this is the only thing about global warming scientist agree on. The effect of carbon-emmission-cutting has never been agree on.

benalvino3:
Well, I am just trying to make you use specifics when it is necessary to make people understand more. That compound is chlorine florine and carbon

When the breakage of the ozone occur, it is the chlorine out of the three compound that cause the problem. This is another reason why I said you should be specific. It's not only carbon that is in play here and the compound that does the damage is the chlorine

In reality, none of these compounds or elements are in their purest form in nature. The CFCs have other elements attached in varying ways.
CH4 (Methane) depletes the Ozone layer too but to a smaller extent. CO isn't necessarily free-occuring too and reacts sign others.

CFCs, CH4 and the likes have effect on the eventual depletion. To save us from all that, the term is "carbon emissions". After all, carbon is the central element these compounds are built on, right? Fitting term.

Goodvibes007:
You mean the carbon capture project is solely all about air purity?

China would do anything for money and economic development.

It hasn't cut down on its carbon emissions even with all the pacts it has signed. The only times it has opted for less carbon emission is in places or situations where renewable energy was the cheaper option.

Of course, it makes solar panels and the likes for sale. That's for money. Where nuclear power or hydroelectric energy are the only options, it would go for it.

As cities are enlarging so is China's carbon footprint spreading.


The U.S. and the U.K. hasn't really done much. In their countries, for air purity, yes renewable energy and to cut ckst where necessary. Tree planting and reforestation drives too.

Both still have interest in several countries drilling for crude oil and new oil wells (Nigeria is just one small example). Both have outsourced manufacturing to places like China and Taiwan where all that global warming issue isn't controlling them.

The U.S. and the U.K. are the ones reprimanding and committing the ""crime too".

Want to find out about new crude oil deals between U.S. and Russia and the Middle East?

Goodvibes007:
China is trying it's best. It's an economy that relies alot of carbon intensive industries, but still they are trying. I think the UK and Canada have similar developments in progress.

China is not doing shit. The only thing China is doing is planting more trees, creating more vegetated parks and campaigning for specific kind of air-purifying plants for landscaping and in apartment blocks.

China is more concerned about air purity than global warming. It just signs global warming pacts to get the western hounds of its backs but does nothing about this. Russia too.

Even the U.S. if you research this enough.

benalvino3:
You can't say we affect ozone layer through emissions of carbon when we don't use the gas or particular carbon that affects ozone layer. This is where you are suppose to distinguish.

Its like saying Mr. Balogun killed a bush rat. Well, when I bring out balogun and his brother who also go by the surname balogun, you will have to distinguish if it's lookman balogun or Bello balogun.

So just saying carbon emissions from humans affects it will be problematic Because we don't emit cfc

That's why I stated it's the term used generally when reporting.

In fact, technically, CFCs shouldn't even be used - you have to be specific about which of the CFCs you are referring to. Or be specific about which hydrocarbon you are referring to like CH4 which is more common is affecting it.

Most people don't. Just like there's no need going into the details about how own system processes the air we breathe in to use O2 and what we breathe in isn't just O2.

In whitepapers, there's specificity. But to educate the general public, you remove all that technical jargon and just call it "carbon emissions". That's what carbon emissions have come to signify for years now.

benalvino3:
Na, it does not work that way. You have to be specific. Almost no one emits cfc today. Cfc are banned but don't expect China to comply

No one in the west of Africa emits Cfc not chelase football club o? So just saying emission without being specific will cause confusion.

No, all reports have always used the term "carbon emissions" as a term to cover everything.


Just like we use air for gas. But in truth, air consists, oxygen, atmospheric nitrogen, carbon dioxide and more.

Imagine we had to say "fresh oxygen and carbon dioxide are coming into the office" every time. Makes for poor articulation and conversations.

Next time you hear or read, carbon emissions, they are referring to all. All fossil fuel combustions including by vehicles and machines produce more than just carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide hence "carbon emissions". There's always more. To make it easier for reporting and to explain, the general term is "carbon emissions".

budaatum:
So, its true, and at the same time, not true?

That's like claiming a river flows regardless of human activity, but I'm sure you'd blame me if I divert it's flow on to your land.

Human mitigation includes reducing the human activity that negatively affects the climate, and if we cut down all the trees, or just dump our waste into the ocean, we'd soon know our true "importance in the grand scheme of things".

Let me give you an analogy which you can relate to:

Both of us are in a covered football stadium like Real Madrid's then we fart. Have we fouled the air? Yes. To what extent? Very minute.
We'd need to fart constantly close to 3000 times each for the place to completely stink.

Let's imagine there's one large air conditioner. We'd need to fart constantly tens of thousands of times for us to overwhelm the purifying effect of that large AC and the stadium stinking.

Juxtapose the following in the analogy:

1. You and I: Machines and other things which emit carbon.

2. Stadium : Earth

3. Large AC: Ozone layer

4. Our fart: Carbon emissions

5. Number of times we fart: Thousands do years.

Remember, like the AC, the ozone layer heals itself and doesn't stop functioning regardless of our farts (carbon emissions).

Get it now?

benalvino3:
When you say high carbon emissions you did not specify which of the carbon. CFC is the one which is problematic and humans don't produce them anymore.

I didn't need to - carbon emmisions cover CFC, CH4, CO2, CO... There are several. To make it easier for fluid conversations, the general term has always been "carbon emissions".

But we agree on the point that it has been blown out of proportion and global warming is a political weapon.

The U.K. and U.S. talk shit about carbon emissions to hold down competitors like China , India and Russia, and to purify its living areas but it still has gigantic fossil fuel interests all over the world which are active.

The only thing scientists agree on us the periodical global warming and cooling over every 90 - 100,000 years.

budaatum:
Yet, human activity is said to deplete it, and human mitigation has reduced it's depletion .

True. This much is known. But to what extent? That extent is exaggerate. Mitigation hasn't and wouldn't stop global warming.

We overestimate our importance in the grand scheme of things.
Ozone itself is formed naturally when the sun's UV light reacts with atmospheric oxygen. The ozone layer is self-healing. It takes time but it heals on its own.

...With or without us.

benalvino3:
That's not true Diss.Troy, carbon dioxide is too heavy to float up to the ozone layer. CfC gas.

.Carbon emissions isn't a synonym of Carbon dioxide - it's the blanket term for all carbon-containing emissions : CO2, CO, CFC, CH4... Thousands. CO2, CFC, CH4 are the main emissions from fossil fuel combustion.

Ozone does not cause global warming and global warming does not cause ozone depletion like I explained earlier.

This applies to budaatum and Goodvibes007 as well.

Read all my posts - never did I claim ozone depletion is responsible for global warming. Instead I argued against the postulation, stating that in spite of an intact ozone layer, global warming would happen and has been happening. Humans and our effects on global warming are relatively miniscule.

Ozone (O3) depletion over thousands of years contributes in a TINY PART to global warming. Tree planting would make our living areas cooler though because the released O2 is actually cold. Oxygen gas is a cold substance. Basic chemistry.

Global warming and global freezing are periodical. There was an ice age before the last ice age. There was a global warming before the last ice age and then now. Each period is said to span 100,000 years.

Man (erm, homo sapiens) has been around for about 70,000 years and we didn't witness the last Ice Age or global warming.

30,000 years from now if humans still remain humans, our descendants would be battling with global freezing.

budaatum:
particularly phytoplankton which produce roughly half of the oxygen in the atmosphere".

Exactly! The oceans play the most role in giving us the needed oxygen and cooling lands down (the part we live on). Why then with all the carbon-emission-cutting nonsense as the panacea to global warming?

Say it would make our air purer and I could argue that - planting more trees is a better option if you want development too. It would happen. We are closer to the heating up than to the last Ice Age. After that, most things would freeze up and on and on.

All we can do is to make our air purer. Even if all humans died now and all machines stoked working, the Earth would still heat up.

And the west have particularly targeted emerging economies with that blackmail - Russia and China and the likes.

benalvino3:
What is causing the depletion of the ozone layer and what region of the earth are we seeing the depletion

Climate change is constant. No one argues this. It was called global warming before they changed it to what is obvious. It's like saying black lives matter. Of course it matters but the Organization black live matters is fraud.

So help me answer these question because carbon emissions does not affect the ozone.

High carbon emissions does affect the ozone layer. Ozone is actually an isotope of oxygen. Before it gets to where the ozone layer is, most of the emitted substance would have dissipated or been absolved. The ozone later is several kilometers above.

Let's just say Ozone is ice and oxygen is cool water. Both are cool but cool water would heat up quicker and the emissions sort of break the ice up.
The ocean even plays more roles in cooking the earth than the ozone layer.

But cool water or warm water - the earth would eventually heat up then cool down. We are arrogant pricks for thinking we can stop the process or alter it.

Goodvibes007:
Atleast you are smarter than Benalvino. We can slow it down for the earth to stabilize itself "if" we can't stop it.

You are reiterating what I stated - we can only cool down deforested areas and purify air in these areas but no measure we would take would stop global warming. In a 100,000 years or even less, the Earth is expected to even get cooler given we avoid any asteroid impact.

There's a 100,000-year circle for global warming and freezing. And this has been happening for millennia.

Global warming is a political weapon. It's a good thing China and Russia have been resisting the sanctions and pressure.

Climate change is real. It's been politicised and weaponised but it doesn't change the fact that it's real. And the ozone layer is really depleting. There are practical ways to prove this.

But, the truth is, climate change has been happening for millions of years. Antarctica and the Artic circle were once lush green forested continents just as the Sahara Desert was as vegetated as the Amazon Forest at a point.

The Earth has continued to freeze and warm over for millions of years and would continue to do so.

Planting more trees would cool certain deforested areas and even purify the air but all that carbon-cutting nonsense wouldn't significantly change the fact that the Earth would still warm over with or without us.

When the previous periods of global warming happened, humans weren't even around. How can you blame global warming on us? The air pollution blame is more fitting.

It's arrogance to think we can stop the Earth warming up. No scientific data proves this. None!

DissTroy:
At 12.7 million Instagram likes and 317,000+ comments, Messi's farewell post is the most 'liked' sport post within a 24-hour period and with the most engagements. Interestingly, it has just been up for 6 hours.

I just checked on Google Trends. Messi is truly trending in all continents. For much of Asia, Google hasn't given a real-time feed of the trends in Russia and China but we all know the reason.

The Greatest Of All Time!

Messi now has the third highest number of most 'liked' Instagram posts in history and in the top 20 entries.

1. Billie Eilish - (5 Top 20 entries)

2. Ariana Grande - ( 4 Top 20 entries)

3. Lionel Messi (3 Top 20 entries)


Also, Messi now holds the record of 3 of the 5 most 'liked' Instagram sports posts ever:

1. Messi - Photo with Copa America Trophy - 21.6 million

2. Cristiano - Diego Maradona remembrance - 19.8 million

3. Messi - Diego Maradona remembrance - 16.4 million

4. Messi - Farewell post (still less than 30 hours) - 17 million

Man. god. Legend. Myth.

jpmoriarti:
Good. Aguero is out for 3 months.

Can we sign a proper striker now please?

Anyone relying on Aguero this season is wasting there time

Aguero just wanted to come holiday in Barça while Messi does all the work and he enjoys playing simply because he's one of Messi' bestfriend. Same think Suarez did. He didn't sign up for filling Messi' boot.

I would smash my knee too with a hammer to avoid that kind of pressure.

Our guy just wanted to "relax and be taken care of".

benalvino3:
Hahaha the guy they make me laugh.

You're the one making the mistake I had pointed out about 2 months ago.

When a person's default mode is to hate and be angry, nothing pacifies him. In fact, any hint of personal comfort stokes his ire because to a hateful person, you don't have a right to eat or make money.

His most sadistic pleasure would be when he dangles the possibility of him gifting you a few notes then you lick his feet and suck up to him at the expense of your dignity. There are so many servile beggars on Nairaland and on social media who would do just about anything with the promise of a few thousand sent to them.

There are so many slaves like that, even in the sports section. Halfwits like the hateful baba don't know how to deal with it when people he xenophonically posits should slave below him and beg him are very comfortable and regard him no more than a stray dog running down the street on a sunny May morning.

The moment you begin to post to prove your personal comfort, you'd be by default be expected to post even your breakfast to prove you've eaten.

Countless times, he or his cronies have called the moderators to delete posts of his own Facebook and LinkedIn handles yet every time he denies his own self and identity but he's always triggered when they are posted.

I've dealt with people like him on Nairaland long enough to know the 'decibel' of their braggadocio is directly proportional to their actual content when revealed.

He's a hateful clown and an ill-tempered dog - you should learn how to deal with clowns and dogs. Tame them. I do it every time.

DissTroy:
I'm enamoured of analytics like the below so I'm searching all of social media to put this together.

18 million talking about Messi on Facebook. That has to be a record for the most trending widespread topic on Facebook within a 24-hour period and it's not even 24 hours yet.

Also, at 2.7 million 'likes', 253 thousand comments and 185 thousand shares in just under 5 hours of Messi posting on his Facebook page, it's become a record for the most Facebook interactions within a 6-hour to 12-hour posting period.

At 12.7 million Instagram likes and 317,000+ comments, Messi's farewell post is the most 'liked' sport post within a 24-hour period and with the most engagements. Interestingly, it has just been up for 6 hours.

I just checked on Google Trends. Messi is truly trending in all continents. For much of Asia, Google hasn't given a real-time feed of the trends in Russia and China but we all know the reason.

The Greatest Of All Time!

I'm enamoured of analytics like the below so I'm searching all of social media to put this together.

18 million talking about Messi on Facebook. That has to be a record for the most trending widespread topic on Facebook within a 24-hour period and it's not even 24 hours yet.

Also, at 2.7 million 'likes', 253 thousand comments and 185 thousand shares in just under 5 hours of Messi posting on his Facebook page, it's become a record for the most Facebook interactions within a 6-hour to 12-hour posting period.

Goldbw122:
When I mean dirty deeds, I mean manipulation, cheating, fortifying of document and many more.

When you look the good business and transaction you have done, over the years, you see that you have wasted your time, you have had different opportunity to make your life wealthy, but you justlet it slide because you want to have a good record, but along time line no money to finance your life. And you have the opportunity again, is it wise to do the dirty deeds or not.. regarding the consequences that follow.

Wealth is a relative term but comfort is definite.

When most people think of the world "wealthy" today, they are thinking Otedola, Ibru, and recently trending, Obi Cubana. That's where greed sets in.

In its basic term, wealth should simply be amassed resources enough to take care of your (and your dependents) needs and rational wants and be inheritable.
If we go by this definition, many people can do this without committing crime or hurting people needlessly. But if go by the others, that's where people become greedy.

FirstbornWds:
Over 180k were present around Camp Nou... So I read.

It's still rumoured and I'm still trying to confirm the numbers which are likely true.

This video best captures Messi' reaction, the whole of Camp Nou and thousands of fans chanting his name and following his motorcade along the streets of Barcelona.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dEBHfe74zM


180,000 fans. That'd be more people than the Euros final, UCL final and Italy trophy tour put together.

Barca and football legends, Xavi and Puyol, turned up at Camp Nou from Qatar and other parts of the world for Messi' press conference.

When a quickly-put-together press conference is more star-studded than an FA Cup Final, Carling Cup and Community Shield.

See, there are levels to this thing. The greatest individual-headlined event in La Liga or club football history.

benalvino3:
They are angels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKnncu2RMpA

So much love in antifa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEOfIWi6_aI

"Antifa is not a hate group..."

Not surprising considering he supports the terror acts unleashed by militants in the Niger Delta over the years where innocents were killed in gun battles, whole communities were razed down and even water sources were poisoned by amateurs bombing pipelines to get bunkered crude oil.

Antifa is not a hate group but they move from public place to public place forcing innocent people dining especially whites in highbrow sit-outs to take the knee and their humiliation videotaped.

The hypocrisy and double standards of these people make Lord Baelish seem like an ArchAngel is comparison.

Tdotbluejays:
Byrd took his political office position in the early 1940s. 1947 or so to be precise. Hillary Clinton was probably in diapers then.

That's the thing - "seemed to have ended". That was speculative reporting without being definitive to absolve Hillary of any blame for associating with him. We know how the MSM muddied the waters and twisted reality to favour Hillary.

There have been several reports since that Byrd still associated with the KKK even during office but he was low-key as many of its influential figures attended events with him and were seen in his company.

If they (MSM) did as much for Biden, I swear he would have been canonised since he doesn't have as much dirt on him personally (except the segregation vote) as Hillary does.

Tdotbluejays:
This is simple nah. You can do better than this.

Jesus' parable of the lost sheep.

Remember I posted earlier about not condemning those that regrets the vaccine and tried to right their wrongs from their sick bed.

Read the below screenshot carefully.

I understand. Maybe he's converted or not.

The point is, when Bryd was still an active KKK member, Hillary was friends with and met other members too.

That you are a repented armed robber is one thing. That I knew you when you were an armed robber and frolicked with you nonetheless makes me guilty by association, and an accomplice and enabler of crime in a way.

Hillary had been friends with Bryd for decades. That's the story here. All the time she parroted "Civil rights and equal rights and fairness", she was being hypocritical and actually working with supremacists. Maybe even received donations from them too.

Tdotbluejays:
My question is why has the GQP not ejected Marjorie green who is in fact now a stain to the party just like Chris Alexander who is an angel compared to the lunatics the GQP is harbouring .

Even more fitting a question since this the the U.S. politics thread is, why didn't the Democratic Party denounce Hillary Clinton after several confirmed reports of her having ties to the KKK hierarchy for years and being best friends with them?

benalvino3:
ehn. Hahahahaha okay. You thought you have made a point. Someone that cried that Diss.Troy baited him the other day. You said all this nonsense after he apologized to you budaatum. You seem like a snake man

Budaatum is an ungrateful guy.

8 days ago, he beaten all over the place, lynched by a mob, drawn and quartered across the many streets and pages of this thread until we stepped in to cushion the effect and pacify the mob who wanted him hanged for daring to stand up to them.

While the murderous mob were distracted by us, Buda ran and disappeared from this thread faster than Obrigado downing bottles of ogogoro at Mama Fatia's roadside shop.

For 5 days he tasted freedom and even argued against some of the woke ideas of the Left we posited here but a sheep can't survive without its shepherd so our guy returned to the plantation.

Budaatum is the real Uncle Tom - in love and servitude with and to his masters.