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budaatum:Budaatum, I've debated with you here a number of times so I can assert that, compared to many others, you are rational and logical with your arguments and try to view from different angles of the political prism. Premised on that is why I am surprised you'd provide an article from a biased, madhouse media outlet like New York Times as evidence. New York Times, CNN, Bloomberg, Fox News, Washington Post, Forbes and more are all obviously and unrepentantly biased either for the Left or the Right. Mostly junk journalism. You should know better. Use official sources or relatively fair sources like BBC, Al Jazeera and the likes if there are no evidence from US agencies' websites. |
AbdulSleeky:You have selective amnesia or worse? Obama as a comparative saint to anyone? Same Obama who destroyed and fueled the destruction of the Middle East using the Arab Spring bait? Same Obama who killed Ghadaffi? Same Obama who allowed USA soldiers die needlessly in Benghazi when they could have been saved because he didn't want to offend his ISIS friends? Same case Killary Clinton had to testify for when she was caught deleting emails and her emails were leaked making her and Obama complicit in these crimes? Same Obama who was paying Iran billions of dollars and didn't tame them from making nuclear weapons? Same Obama who has admitted that he made a grave mistake dabbling into the Middle East isuues and Libya was his greatest mistake? Same Obama who refusing to call ISIS, Al Qaeda and the likes terrorists? Same Obama who is directly and indirectly responsible for Boko Haram moving from being a ragtag group to the second most dangerous terror group in the world because of the weapons he allowed militia groups have access to from the pillaged Benghazi and arming these terrorists? How dare you lie about a fact that has been admitted over and over again on the internet and in the media in this age of global connectivity and quick access to information?! |
seankafor:It's a whole league now. Follow the developing stories more closely: Even La Liga is involved now and telling Messi he can't leave. There's too much at stake: Ratings, views, money politics and so much more. See what Ronaldo did for the Italian league ratings. Multiply that by a number of times and that's what Messi does for La Liga. Erm, don't compare Neymar's influence to Messi's or even Ronaldo's. Even at that, PSG didn't and can't tame Neymar. He's still the most influential player at the club and walks right into the first team even if he just returned from a holiday or injury. And Messi's hold on Barcelona and the La Liga isn't necessarily about ego: It's more. Start with the El Classico: With Messi gone, that piqued interest from the footballing world would wane. You and I know this. |
tesppidd:Maybe it's to scare other interests away. Clubs like Juventus would certainly be scared by that weekly wage. The only clubs left who would still stand strong would be Man.City and PSG. But the proposed Man. City deal involves him playing in the MLS for two years and Messi doesn't want that. He's stated he'd like to play in his childhood club before retiring as a player. The Man. City deal would thwart that. What's certain is, now that the wage has been made known, most clubs would rein in their fantasies. But Barça would be on aggressive marketing this time to get their money's worth. Messi is more than any other player. La Liga waded in because Messi leaving would have affected the La Liga's ratings, value and income. It's more than football. There's business involved. Few days ago, Barcelona modeled their new kit and fans were surprised to see them photoshopping Messi into the pictures. It's almost like they were telling Messi, "Bro, I don't know what your plans are but this divorce would not work. We are married for life." The marketing would be worth it. I expect a mini-movie like "Messi and Barcelona: Eternal Love Without Boundaries". The marketing would be sick. |
tesppidd:I think that crazy Bartomeu is just putting up a front for the public. The reports are that Barcelona have upped Messi's weekly way to £1.5 million weekly. They are bribing Messi to stay in broad daylight. https://twitter.com/indykaila/status/1301479556411461632?s=20 First time in 5 years, there's been a leak of his actual wage from the club. Trying to match the wage Man. City reportedly proposed for him. They might start charging fans for "Messi Maintenance Fee". |
khingTony: DissTroy:...And it happened: The board, club officials, the players and fans alike begged Messi to stay, campaigned visibly online and offline, and even using children who are fans to manipulate him. He's staying from the latest indications. The Barça universe begged Messi to stay at Barcelona. Even La Liga waded into the matter but never batted an eyelid when Papa Perez chased Penaldo away from MADrid while Ramos insulted the Portuguese model during the exit process and after. Never before has one single player brought a sport to a standstill. Messi did it. So much for the disgruntled claims of "we need to rediscover another pattern." Messi is the pattern. ![]() |
Unlimited22: DissTroy:Those who followed Messi' career and his subtle antics within the club and national team knew this all along. Reports are that Messi would be staying at Barça after all. He has the whole club at its knees now, including the supposed president, Bartomeu. Club officials, players and fans literally begged him to stay. All hail the undisputed emperor of Barça. It's Messilona from now on. |
obixcel:Let me show you a quick practical example of the Leftist Conspiracy: Local-search "Nancy Pelosi" right now on Twitter. All the results and mentions you'd see are of Left-leaning pundits praising her. All posts criticizing her have been suppressed by Twitter. Even influential Republican critics like Dan Bogino, Candace, Charlie Kirk and even Trump's with millions of followers whose posts get millions of engagements on their tweets have been shadow-banned. To actually see Republican tweets criticize Nancy Pelosi, you have to search each account out or follow mutual retweets. They demonized Trump for not wearing a mask but are praise Nancy for breaking her own rules. Just try it out. Twitter is tampering with the election just like Google is suppressing anti-Left search results. Facebook demonetized Candace Owens' Facebook page three weeks ago and shadow-banned her for calling out Kamala Harris for declaring she's Native American when running for Senate then switching to become black when running as VP, flagging the criticism as false (Candace shared proof). |
Kachills:The closest person to win close to 90% of black votes was Obama in 2007. In 2012, the enthusiasm had waned. Biden would get up to 60% of black votes. Getting up to 60 would be because blacks are being swayed into thinking Chameleon Harris is black but she isn't. Chachess6:I keep repeating every time I comment on this thread about Candace Owen's impact in the black community. That young woman has almost singlehandedly raised an 'army' of very visible and opinionated black supporters of Trump. She stated it in 2018 that when the polls are conducted around election period, they'd be more support for Trump within the black community. ...And she's not relenting, her pregnancy regardless. Support for BLM has waned. The celebrities have moved on to other things. Tired of the backlash from her fans. Oh, about Cardi B championing BLM last week and attacking Trump's wife: She has a new song with her fellow LovePeddler-, Megan the Stallion. Streaming numbers and views on Spotify and YouTube surged within that week. She timed her outburst perfectly for when her song would be released and rarely ever said anything in support of BLM before then. It's all marketing for her. Too bad blacks are gullible and keep getting scammed. And the CNN coons on this thread have less of the intelligence of a jellyfish to discern that - rationality isn't their forte. |
Kachills:Like that Governor(?) who was caught on camera at the salon getting her nails done months ago while forcing the people to stay locked indoors. Like New York Governor's daughter who was arrested for rioting and vandalizing with the ANTIFA terrorists even though her father had imposed a state-wide lockdown. Like Biden running out of his basement to go campaign immediately he saw the new polls that Trump was leading him, even in swing states. Notice a pattern here, man? Democrats are thieving, hypocritical liars! basilico:This is the exact reason Trump's approval ratings increased in the polls and got Biden's team panicking. A group of Democrat city leaders recently endorsed Trump and commended him. The news and video is on the GOP's Twitter page. |
alexistaiwo:Right on the mark! Finally, someone who's teetotal and straightedge. Same here - I've never smoked, drank or done drugs all of my life. I hope I never will for any reason till I expend my mortality's limit. And it's not for religious reasons. I'm barely religious. But I eat meat though. Being vegan must be horrible. |
biomustry:Why do you think the Barça management have been hiding the exact details of what Messi earns for over five years now? Players would have probably rioted asking for increases too. I don't even think 95 million is his full annual wages. There are so many add-ons shrouded in secrecy. When club officials have been asked about the specifics of Messi' earnings, they suddenly develop amnesia. I won't be surprised if it's revealed that Barça funds his holidays (like Neymar gets PSG private jet rides benefits). Messi is the de facto president of Barça. Bartomeu has just been ceremonial. |
Superpower:When such pictures get attention, Twitter flags them or bans/suspends the posters. |
Oddly, Twitter has strict rules about nudity. If a Republican had posted what Cardi B did, he/she would have been suspended or banned. But Twitter has shown it is left-leaning many times in the past so no surprises here. |
khingTony:Your watered-down version of success doesn't hold true for every football fan out there. The reason why Barcelona became great in the first place was the possession-obsessed, free-flowing kind of football called the "tiki taka". It's why Barça home games are so filled to the brim - fans want to get entertained and not just about the team winning the match, but how they win it. There's a reason why the Liverpool-Totentham UCL Final was mocked even a year after almost three nights ago during the Bayern-PSG Final: This final had a lesser scoreline but was fun and everyone wanted it to go on forever. If you don't understand why tiki taka is unique to Barça's identity, then you are a stowaway on this flight BARCA433 and now you've been found out at this period where we landed to refuel. Now get off this plane as you'd be deported to the Sunderland FC fanbase where you belong! |
LordAdamX:You? Messi slander? It's fitting that you are a Ronaldo fanboy. Only Ronaldo keeps yelling, "I am the best. I am great. Nobody does it like me" as it stems from deep-rooted insecurity, watered by the voyéurism of seeing other more gifted and tactful players get all the adulation and adoration even without actively craving the spotlight. It's why you need to sign off every comment of yours with "-Lord" 'cause you need to keep reiterating the falsity to yourself like an LSD junkiè topping up on the drug before any withdrawal symptom becomes obvious. Of course you are a Penaldo fan through and through - members of the Gangsterhood of Insecured Voyeûrs. ![]() |
Unlimited22:Not just Bartomeu - he wants to take back control of his team. Now they'd get him everything he wants. The whole management and team have already gone to pay homage on his wife's latest Instagram post. Well, at least if you can make his wife feel really loved and special, she can convince her husband to stay. Suarez might not even fully leave after all. He'd be phased out of the team with respect like Iniesta got. Pecks of being Messi's best friend. Koeman would also be put on a leash. Griezmann has been kissing Messi's arse since he arrived so he'd stay too. Make no mistake - Messi is the new de facto president of Barça. |
fourfourfour:No, Messi isn't a god - he's THE god. ...of football. You ungrateful thing! The universe and fate scheduled and placed your fleeting existential mortality at a time to witness a supernatural being humble himself to adorn a jersey and jug football with you humans to show you a glimpse of perfection without the impedance of your flawed humanity and all you do is slander him? You are unworthy! Ungrateful unworthy mortal! |
khingTony:Jon Snow! Messi is the only reason Barcelona still has a "pattern of football". Barça's signature football style has been tiki taka. All of Barcelona's era of dominance have been heralded by the tiki taka style of football - the early 90's, the late 90's, the mid-2000's, Pep Guardiola era. All of those nostalgic periods of dominance were so because of tiki taka and fit-for-style players. Messi is the one true Barca player left who still embodies the tiki taka philosophy. Any other pattern of football isn't Barcelona. There's nothing to discover - it's like a whale trying to see if would thrive in the Sahara Desert. The Luis Enrique era murdered tiki taka and the only reason Barcelona has been dominating Spain and winning medals in the last 3 years is simply due to Messi - topping scoring, assists, passing and dribbling charts all by himself. Winning games all by himself. Stats don't freaking lie! You want to become ike Real Madrid fans who have cruel selective amnesia? Tell one single player who has consistently and singlehandedly decided the fate of his team like Messi in the last decade? Mention just one with statistics and I'd come with mine to counter you. Who has been there for him? Who has held it together when he was injured? Has he not forced himself to play even without fully recovering season after season? Has he not come back to top all charts? Messi is the reason Barcelona hasn't spiralled down to the level of AC Milan in the last 3 years. Yes, fans and players would beg him; and, mark my words, there'd soon be a crowd on the streets of Barcelona begging Messi to stay. It's never happened but it will happen. That's how reliant on him Barcelona has been. |
cumz:Indirectly, it's Messi' fault also. But how do you ask your bestfriend (who's wife and kids are yours closest) too to leave? Most times it was up to Messi to decide who stays and who leaves, and, there's no way you ask your bestfriend to thrown out. It's crazy. Don't forget, Messi has never hidden his desire to reunite MSN in the team. He thought with Suarez there, he could still tweak things to also bring Neymar back. And MSN were a large family. All kids, spouses (and girlfriend) used to hangout together. Even with Neymar in Paris, MSN still hangout together. Messi wants them back and not really for footballing reasons. They only other player Messi bonded with that way was Ronaldinho and you can see how much he still values that friendship more than a decade after Gaucho left. Messi was never as close to Iniesta or Xavi as he is with Suarez (and next, Neymar). Some people don't allow themselves make a lot of friends but once they call you "friend", it's a lifetime thingy. Messi is one of those people. His loyalty partly has been the team's undoing in a way. Coaches knew by default that Suarez is untouchable. Koeman is seizing the opportunity to axe everyone now that Messi is still angry before he calms down. Smart move. Don't give time for their wives to talk it over. Cumz: That quality is what actually makes Messi Messi - unwavering loyalty to anything or being he lets get behind his seemingly inanimate life. That's why everybody adores him - his loyalty, even to his own spouse. Why do you think he's never had a cheating scandal even after being with Antonella for almost two decades? |
jpmoriarti:Koeman is right. Rakitic, Vidal, Arda Turan and the likes have and will never have the Barcelona DNA. I've mentioned it on this trend in my last post a week ago. Those players should never have adorned a Barca jersey in the first place. Heck! Griezmann shouldn't even be in a Barca first team. With Barca it's more than winning games - it's about how the games are won. Countinho should never have gone on loan. He's Barcelona - he has that thing about him. |
cumz:It's not all black and white. Suarez became Messi's bestfriend. Their families and kids became the closest of the Barcelona families. The families vacation together more often than not. There's even a swinging joke about them - that's how close they all became. Messi' and Suarez' wives both co-run the biggest fashion store in Barcelona - they own the business together. It had already become more than football for Suarez - he finally found a place he was loved and adored after being treated like a villain for much of his career. Yes, he became shit and complacent, relying of Messi' influence to cement his place in the Barca squad but it's already become more than football for Suarez. |
Slawormir:How dare you, a self-confessed fraudster on the pages of Nairaland, equate yourself with those of us who work legitimately and always stay on the right side of the law?! The nerve! You'd never be at par with those working and earning money legitimately. You'd always be tainted and skip a heartbeat every time you hear the police siren. |
OyinO:This is easy even if the website is built on a CMS platform. |
Nikeballer:There, mister, is what has really mattered to most Barca fans in recent years - that Messi remains his awesome self and help us snatch as many trophies as we can get. The rest of the players (except our very own Yet) can go to blazes. Erm, Barca fans have been against the signing of the players, safe for Countinho. Debroslink:Even sacking coaches is pointless. The board should just stop bringing strange players into the team. It's not even really about the trophies but the style of play. You academy boys with the tiki taka DNA go for some strange hit-and-run big names? When has that ever been the Barca way? "Ansu Fati holds on to the ball too much!" Heck! That's the tiki taka way - holding on to the ball and passing amongst yourselves till the opponents get frustrated and make mistakes. That's why the 2009 and 2011 UCL triumphs felts better than the 2015 triumph for Barca fans. |
williams10101:If the replays I've seen are anything to go by, you are just looking for scapegoats. Barca have depended solely on Messi's brilliance in the last 3 years or so. The trophies amassed in that time have had to scraped - sometimes by a hair's breathe. When you rely on the most brilliant student in school to win you quiz competitions, what happens the day he falls short? Are the other students on the team collectively intelligent enough to win competitions for the team? In Barca's case, we both know the answer - no. Barca has known this all this time that's why the official Barca social accounts have become Messi fan accounts. That's why they'd keep eulogizing even his wife and kids daily on their accounts. That's why even when Messi's wife posts on Instagram, Barca players and management would go mark their presence in the comment section. That's why Leo coughs and even the Barca president is running to bring him water. That's why he bought a condo in Milan and the Barca team went nuts. They know they'd be toast without him now. Barca fans know too. Same thing with Arsenal's official accounts almost literally eating Aubameyang's poo in the last one month. You and I know no top-tier club would keep Suarez. You and I know Umtiti should have been sold. We know Griezmann became a Messi fan boy once he arrived and just wanted to relax 'cause, after all, Messi's been winning trophies with a bulk of these shitty players so he can't make it worse. Oh, and the coaches too. From Luiz Enrique to the rest: When Barca started shedding off its tiki taka team. When strange players like Ardan Turan could make a Barcelona team! When Rakitic, who's never had the Barca DNA could play in a Barca first team. When we could make a Barca-like player like Countinho unplayable in Barca because Tiki Taka was being dumped. When thuggish, patternless Atletico players suddenly became the cynosure of Barca's board. That's when it all started getting wrong. Tiki Taka died after MSN and the 2008/2009/2010 class left Barcelona. Essentially, Barca lost its identity. Don't blame the players - blame the management. |
Lana1:Darn! You meme game is spot on! ![]() |
Lana1:You realize how hilariously ironic it is for you,. a Man. United fan to troll fans of clubs better and more successful than you have been in the last 7 years, right? It's like Shehu Sani trolling Obama - one is an ex Senator, the other is an immediate past President. The trolling would only count from either Liverpool or Man City fans. |
[quote author=Afobear post=92827279][/quote]LOL. Oddly, I was just going through my reply to you a week ago when I saw this mention and I thought, "He'd quote me at some point". I would have quoted you too if the roles were reversed so it's fair game. I didn't see the game. Lost track of time beneath dimmed lights and drawn curtains with... I just saw the replay on YouTube and it didn't hurt me like I thought it would. I have admitted on this forum that something snapped inside me when Barca lost the 3-0 lead to lLiverpool in the last UCL Semifinals when the treble was within reach. Most Barca fans wouldn't admit it but we've never fully gotten over the heartbreak of that loss. Only rivaled by Messi losing the 2014 World Cup Final due to that silly Gotze goal. Stealing the motorbike of a person whose duplex just burnt down wouldn't hurt him as it would other people - he's already snapped inside. |
DesChyko:Dude, if you are science-inclined and versed in archaeology, you should know carbon dating is flawed. Scientists move to potassium dating and even that isn't effective. |
budaatum:I already responded to the leftist clown. He should emulate me - I post links to credible and official sources, not memes or screenshots. All my evidence have been links. I'm here to end the lies on this thread. Whenever I am on any thread, make sure you come with your A-game 'cause I come to obliterate any claim to credibility you might think you have. I have countered every lie by the leftist lunatics on this thread with links to official sources. Every single time. |
Goodvibes007:Dude, when I make claims at this level, I don't post screenshots: I post links to evidence so everyone can verify themselves and gauge the credibility of the source. All my posts on this thread have always been of me posting links to credible sources. Memes and all of that are for trolls. My previous post has a link of one of the cop killers being Democrat. ALL were charged. All are killers. Post links. I usually ignore screenshots or memes in debates. ![]() |
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