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 Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by djon78(m): 7:13pm On May 07, 2018 |
OkaiCorne:What was the entire book of Acts was talking about. The coming of the Holy Spirit, working of signs and wonders, salvation of souls of men, healing and spreading of the gospel of Christ. The book of Hebrews still talked about tithe, but the main focus of that epistle was the sonship of Jesus, the high priesthood of Jesus, faith and many other things. If you want let's do a discussion on the book of Acts or the book of Hebrews not just extracting a verse. Let's talk about the whole counsel of God |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by djon78(m): 7:04pm On May 07, 2018 |
OkaiCorne:Who control majority wealth in our present world? Which people control a substantial part of global finance? The jews are very small population in the US but they are the most successful group. During the era of Nazi Germany, they were controlling significant wealth in Europe that's one reason Hitler went after them and confiscated their wealth. Why are they very successful; the blessing God pronounced on the man Abraham. And that blessing is still following them till today. They have the highest number of winners of noble prize in sciences, physics, chemistry, medicine which is the bedrock of science and development in today's world. The wisdom in the book of proverbs can turn any adherent follower of it into major success. The jews in their synagogues today still pay tithe. They are grade one givers. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by djon78(m): 6:33pm On May 07, 2018 |
You quote scriptures but forget to tell us what is God saying in the now. In the present. I give God one tenth of my income out of a cheerful heart and devotion to my God. I get bless from doing that. And you come to tell me to stop what God on the inside of me convinced me to do. What can I call this. And the funny thing is that you won't discuss the important, weightier matters in God's word like salvation from sin, living for God, repentance, saving the lost, healing but only tithes. So please follow your own way let me follow my own. In the end we will know. Remain blessed. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by djon78(m): 6:21pm On May 07, 2018 |
That's why I said you people argue without logic. The Bible was written by inspiration of God. To interpret the scriptures you don't just quote things. What is God saying about it by His spirit indwelling in a believer. Even during Jesus times, money was already been used. Taxes were paid to Roman Empire, that was why when they came asking him to pay his and his disciples tax, he instructed one of his disciples to go and catch a fish. To open it's mouth and see money to pay their tax. In today's Jewish synagogues do they tithe? yes And what do they tithe with? Is it not money? Does anyone of them tithe with agricultural products in today's world. Why is it that Jess today control a huge part of global money? Why are they good in finance, handling of money? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by djon78(m): 5:54pm On May 07, 2018 |
OkaiCorne:The main issue is that majority of you are not logical at all. That's why argument is not advised. Farmers who do agriculture which is the foremost and the profession that has been practiced around the world and in Nigeria for thousands of years. Farming today is strictly financial. Example in this present Buharis regime, price of food has increased in Nigeria and around the world. My background is business and management Some of the wealthiest companies in the World today Trade in commodities which includes agriculture products like corn, beans, soya, wheat, sugar, etc. Someone like Dangote his wealth is a lot from trading in commodities. The global population is increasing therefore price of food is high because of demand. Even our local farmers in the village all do their transactions solely monetary. I won't address this issue again but most of you should talk with facts and truths. In the old times they tithe according to the practice then because that was what was available. Today every transaction done in our world is money. I go to work and at the end of the month I am paid money for the job I did. I do business in agriculture, importation, manufacturing etc what I get at the end is simply money. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by djon78(m): 1:54pm On May 07, 2018 |
OkaiCorne:What kind of question are you asking? The inflow I got was it not monetary? All dealings I do and almost every body does this day is it not monetary. We are not in olden times where transactions were trade by bater, cowries, coins etc. Transactions in the world today is purely financial that's why we have money, Central Bank, Banks, and other financial agencies. All the transactions we do today is monetary and it is regulated by government. So I just don't understand why you will be asking such questions. And that is why the beast talked about in the book of revelation will be able to control everything. According to revelation none will buy or sell if he has not received the mark of the beast. Today government through central banks, banks, and majorly for Nigeria, Bvn, all your financial transactions are completely regulated. In addition people should focus on the most important thing the Salvation of their souls. Do you have Jesus Christ as your true saviour. Because that's the only guarantee of your eternity. Man is eternal, man is not just body. And only surrendering to the Lordship of Jesus Christ your life is assured. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by djon78(m): 6:42am On May 07, 2018 |
Whoever doesn't pay tithe has not really known God well. Tithing is biblical, from old testament to the new testament. Moreover if you have the Spirit of the Living God abiding in you. You cannot doubt tithing, never. Because the Spirit of God will impress in your heart the truth about tithing. According to Romans 8:14 King James Version (KJV) 14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. The true test of being God's son is simply are you led by the Spirit of God? Does your life show the characters of Christ? That is how you know where you belong. I pay my tithes and offerings. I have listened to this debate on tithing. I have searched the scriptures from Genesis to Revelation and the scriptures supports tithing. And there is blessing with tithing, yes there is. Even yesterday Sunday 6th May I paid my tithe in Church. And why this particular one was significant was on Saturday night I was contemplating to hold my tithe until I get my next income or financial overflow but one mind told me pay your tithe irrespective of the financial flow coming. So yesterday I obeyed. It was not palatable at all. When I came back from church, I got a call concerning another transaction, infact I wasn't expecting this particular transaction. I was due for this inflow 2 and half months ago. That is early March. Infact I have forgotten about it. I was expecting another transaction entirely. So I got that call back from church. And guess what? By 8pm last night the organization transferred very good cash alert to my account. I was astonished. I wasn't expecting that money, infact I have forgotten about the money. But my obedience to tithing, in not withholding God's money, I got a shock. I will keep on saying it, tithing is purely biblical and of God. On Saturday night while I was reading my Bible before I slept, I was reading John 6, I noticed some very important scripture, let me share it. In the beginning of that chapter Jesus Christ was ministering to a very large crowd of about 5 thousand men not counting women and children who were much more. The Lord Jesus wanted to feed them and He told the disciples that He wants to feed them. Then Philip answered the Lord; John 6:7 ► New International Version Philip answered him, "It would take more than half a year's wages to buy enough bread for each one to have a bite!" Phillip told the Lord that if it was to go by human strength of hustling, it will take more than half a year's wages to buy enough bread for each of the people to take a bite, not to be fully fed, but just to have a bite. Then how much would it have taken to fully fed them? What I saw from that scripture is that human toiling will never ever be enough to even satisfy man. But Jesus Christ by divine help fed those people and still had 12 basket full remaining. Likewise God is interested in every part of us including our finances. We must surrender every part of our being to Him. Majorly giving, tithing, giving to the poor, blessing people around us are ways He uses what we have surrendered to Him. And He in turn blesses us for our obedience. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Life? by djon78(m): 10:05pm On May 06, 2018 |
For you to understand the essence and meaning of life, you just need to go to the maker of life, God. From my Bible God simply made man, a spirit, with a soul and then he made the body out of the clay to house the spirit and soul. We interact with this earth plane with our body. The day we die, our spirit leaves the body and goes back to the maker God. Now the real man is not our body, the real man is our spirit. Infact it is our spirit that gives our body life. In continuance of the Bible, the first man created by God was Adam, then God made the woman from Adams ribs and she was called eve. Now the woman caused Adam to sin and disobey God's command and this disobedience brought sin into the world. Sin reigned supreme over mankind until God himself took the likeness of man and came in the flesh, His name was Jesus Christ. He was God's son, he came as a lamb to pay for Adam's disobedience, because for God's laws, sin must be paid for. So Jesus Christ was crucified and killed. All the sins of the world was all laid on Him. He paid it with His own life, by his blood because the life of anything is in the blood. But the good news is that Jesus Christ died, but He never remained in the grave. He rose again from the dead on the third day. Now Jesus Christ tasted death for all mankind. Jesus Christ tasted death so that those who believe and accept Him as their sacrifice and Savior will not taste death. The new testament of the Bible always state that Christians have passed from death to life. Therefore the day a true Christian, believer and follower of Jesus Christ dies he will not taste death. Because the death he is supposed to die Jesus Christ has already tasted it for him or her. Moreover when Jesus Christ was crucified, He was whipped with stripes on his body. And that stripes on his body was for our healing. Because sin brought in disease to human body. Jesus Christ also paid for the healing of our bodies. So all manner of sickness, whatever can be cured. But you can't access it without faith. By understanding that you have been healed. When this truth dawns on your inner man, sickness and disease will never have effect on you. But it comes with understanding. The essence of life is simply learning to develop our human spirit which is the real man. People spend their lifetime developing their intellect while neglecting their spirit man, the real man that goes to the maker when they die. The human body has no profit. The day your spirit leaves the body, decay sets in. If the body is not buried in the earth back to the ground from which God formed the first man, it will smell. Whether humanity likes it or not we are simply God's creation. It was God that created us. Everything we achieve on this earth is simply God. Our wife, husband, children, house, money etc. The day we die, we will not carry a single dime, naked we came from our mothers womb and naked or empty we will go. That is why I laugh at those who foolishly live only for these things. They are empty. Man was God's creation to worship God, simple. We were created to worship God with our life, our substance, talent, wealth, etc by sharing it with our fellow human beings. To make life easy and enjoyable for our fellow human beings we come in contact with. Living only for oneself, selfishness, greed, wickedness has made humanity worse. Looking for people we will easily take advantage of for our own is against God's will. So man was created by God to worship Him and to relate well with our fellow human beings and make life easy for them in any way we can. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
| Agriculture › Re: FG Launches Startup Nigeria To Promote Agribusiness by djon78(m): 11:47am On May 03, 2018 |
Where is registration link? Quite a number of people have asked the same question!!!b Whoever posted this, where is the link or is this just propaganda??!! |
| Romance › Re: Sex Before Marriage Or Sex After Marriage? by djon78(m): 10:18pm On May 01, 2018 |
ImaIma1:We need to keep on stressing it so that they will change. And save their souls 1 Corinthians 6 King James Version (KJV) 9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. 12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any. 13 Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body. Heaven is very real. And if you want to make heaven then you have to go with God. Do what He tells you to do. Simple. But anyone still has the free will to do whatever he wants.But it has terrible, eternal consequences. Simple 1 Like |
| Romance › Re: Sex Before Marriage Or Sex After Marriage? by djon78(m): 9:35pm On May 01, 2018 |
This story is complete hogwash to promote immorality. God made sex for marriage simple. Sex is both joining of two bodies into one. Sex is communion. It requires every part of the being. People just play with fire. And let me warn you all. Everyone will give account to God, what he or she did with their body. It was God that made the human body. He put pleasure into the human body because He loves us. But He gave us free will. We can choose to obey him or not. Even where there is weakness of the flesh. Let us go to Him. He will give us power to overcome. And patiently wait till we get married and enjoy our bodies with our spouse. On another note God wants those of us that are married to really enjoy sex with our spouse. Yes. The devils two strategy is to encourage premarital sex but then discourage marital sex. Sex is a good thing. It is very pleasurable. Married couples should truly discover the wonders of marriage sex. 1 Corinthians 7 explain it more. God expects married couple to always have regular sex, except when they agree to fast. That the wife has no authority over her body but the husband and likewise the husband has no authority over his body but the wife. So where a wife withhold sex as punishment or the husband, it is a big sin and God will judge such a spouse. If your husband or wife demands sex, it is his or her right. If you are tired, you can use wisdom to beg, but make it up when you have regained enough strength. Thanks and God bless you all. Amen 2 Likes |
| Celebrities › Re: Davido Buys A Porsche For Chioma, His Girlfriend, As Her Birthday Gift (Photos) by djon78(m): 3:27am On May 01, 2018 |
InvertedHammer:There is nothing to be compared to being married to a wise igbo woman. Nothing bro!! Gives you sound lifetime advice Excellent cook Wash your clothes and iron it and you will be telling her to stop You see her fast and pray sometimes for consecutive 3 days just for your success and well being Very many more qualities And when you have this type why will you be chasing women. You will be faithful totally. In addition I don't want to be ethnist. You can find a good woman from any tribe though. But the issue is that many women today have no more qualities to tame men. Virtousness is no more there. women should go back to being virtous and responsible and many men will be tamed. 6 Likes |
| Celebrities › Re: Reekado Banks Preaches On Twitter, Fans Reacts. (Photos) by djon78(m): 5:41am On Apr 27, 2018 |
That's a good one. He is doing the right thing. They need to start hearing the truth and nothing but the truth. People just live recklessly and anyhow these days, not remembering their maker and creator who gave them every thing. Let the word be continually preached so that those that will be saved, will be saved. Amen and glory be to God. 9 Likes 1 Share |
| Celebrities › Re: Charly Boy Calls For Ban Of BBNaija Show, Gives Reasons by djon78(m): 12:19pm On Apr 23, 2018 |
I am in total support of that. The show is very vile. There is nothing to be learned from it except teaching young people to commit immorality. And we have majority of our population young people. Government must outrightly ban that show. Nigeria must be saved from moral decadence. Go to social media and you will be alarmed at how the youths and young people today toil with sex, not knowing that it is complete destruction they are bringing to themselves. Because a sexually immoral person rarely builds a peaceful, interesting marriage. Once the immoral lifestyle has been fully imbibed, it will bring untold sorrows to the individual, and in the end of his life eternal damnation. May Good help us. 3 Likes |
| Celebrities › Re: Ebuka’s Wife, Cynthia Celebrates Him After BBNaija 2018 by djon78(m): 12:04pm On Apr 23, 2018 |
I never watched that vile show even for one day. I don't even know all this people they are calling. But I don't support coming to the social media to talk about marriage matter. Something is happening behind the scene. This ladys husband is involved in show biz. And we all know the kind immoral things that go down in show biz. And I am not sure the couples ever gave their lives to Christ. So my advice to them and to everyone reading this; if you desire faithfulness in marriage make sure you and your spouse genuinely knows the Lord Jesus Christ personally. If you do, then your marriage is insured. But if you were never surrendered genuinely to the Lordship of Jesus Christ then I am sorry for you. Because it will only take the grace of God for a man with flesh and blood not to mess up. A man that was sleeping with several women before he married, marriage rearly does anything to curb those cravings in the flesh. Only Jesus Christ can do that by genuine salvation. I am not here to judge anyone but to show the reality. And my prayer for them and every other married people is peace and love remain abound in the marriage till death do they part. Because a marriage where there is peace love and faithfulness is indeed made in heaven. Thanks 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Play Dairo Reacts To Pastor Adeboye's "No Tithe, No Heaven" Preaching by djon78(m): 4:47pm On Apr 22, 2018 |
OkCornel:Thanks and God bless you all. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Play Dairo Reacts To Pastor Adeboye's "No Tithe, No Heaven" Preaching by djon78(m): 3:51pm On Apr 22, 2018 |
OkCornel:I pay my tithes out of respect, reverence and love for God. And He chooses to blesse me. That doesn't mean I still don't have challenges. Everybody on this earth faces challenges but unshakable trust in God can make a difference. And paying tithe is one act of my worship to God. I have seen people faced with diverse problems and unshakable trust in God delivered them. I have seen people that Doctors and medical science has written them off. Cancer, terrible sicknesses and they got completely healed and whole because of their unshakable trust in God while those just depending only on medical science died and we're no more. What humans don't understand is that God is real, God is not a fairy tale. I personally have seen God's in action time and time again in my life. Let me give you testimonies; God gave me privilege of obtaining an excellent foreign education. I was in class with some of the children and relations of the high and mighty in Nigeria but my parents were just average managing folks. I had a wonderful experience as an international student. And my brother, it was simply God's loving hand of Providence. God recently delivered me from a disease that would have taken my life. When I was diagnosed, the Lord told me personally don't be afraid my son. I was in hospital for 2 weeks, at the end Doctors gave me a bill of 1.2 million Naira. Guess what, God told me I should not worry a bit that He got my back. And someone offset my medical bill with just a wire transfer click. Today I am sound. There were other people I know that didn't even make it. But here I am, alive, strong and well. People don't believe when I tell them what I went through. God is real. That is why I am sorry for those who rejects His invitation. In Revelation 3 Vs 20 He said behold I stand at the door of your heart and knock. If any will open, He will come in and eat with Him. But if people rejects God's invitation and die in their sin, it will be terrible for those ones. What can a man give in exchange for his soul. Man is a great being made in the image and likeness of God. The human body is a great gift God gave to mankind. The wonderful pleasures in human body was put there by God. But He gave us a way to use it. For example sex is a very wonderful beautiful gift from God to mankind but God expects us to use it strictly for marriage but devil is deceiving many people today. They misuse their body. It ought not to be so. I am not coming to judge people commit other sins, I am just stating the commonest one. We may have done many sins but God is ever willing to forgive us and give us the power to overcome and live right. But people need to know. Let no body be comfortable in sin, run from it and run to God. I am pleading with anybody reading this post run to God, He will save you and deliver you Amen. Thanks and may all remain blessed. Amen |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Play Dairo Reacts To Pastor Adeboye's "No Tithe, No Heaven" Preaching by djon78(m): 3:14pm On Apr 22, 2018 |
OkCornel:and I gave you scriptural backing for my tithe paying!! Did I not? Honestly this is a divide. You said don't pay with your scriptures, I said I paid with my own scriptures and with evidence of Gods goodness and blessings. I think each side should go with what they believe. Just like some don't believe in Jesus while others believe and follow Him. In the end of life, we will know who was right. Thanks. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Play Dairo Reacts To Pastor Adeboye's "No Tithe, No Heaven" Preaching by djon78(m): 3:01pm On Apr 22, 2018 |
OkCornel:You can say all you want, I was in church today Sunday and I joyfully and willingly paid my tithe. There is nothing those of you shouting here can do about it. You can cry all you want but many people still pay their tithes. Something that has been a great blessing over the years. We have seen God's faithfulness time and time again and you think you can just and tell us what we have not been experiencing time and time again. So thanks for all, but paying tithe is my second nature. Remain Blessed!!! On another note; using my brain? You cannot follow God with your brain. That is your problem. Jesus in his walk on earth did many miraculous signs and wonders. You know why today's Christians are powerless? They think they can know God with their brain. No way. You think you can receive anything from God by your intellect. Never, you will not. So brother, please continue using your brain well oh. Remain blessed again!! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Play Dairo Reacts To Pastor Adeboye's "No Tithe, No Heaven" Preaching by djon78(m): 6:01pm On Apr 20, 2018 |
OkCornel:Let me just give you some advice. We gentiles are not humble. According to apostle Paul, gentiles are grafted stock. If you really want to appreciate Christianity more meet a Jewish Rabi who believes in the Messiah. The Bible will be open to you like never before. Do some studies on it. This is a question of knowledge. There is no way I can make you understand these things. They are gotten by revelation not just mental assent of the scriptures. That's all I can say. This issue is becoming argumentative. The Bible is God's word and just reading the Bible as mere academic mental assent you will miss a lot. Jesus said that those that worship God must worship Him in spirit and truth. True worship of God you have to come to God baring your heart. The human heart is the most deceptive thing. Jesus did not commit himself to man because he knew what was in man. It is a heart thing. I can't say any other thing for now. I have just stated what I believe. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Play Dairo Reacts To Pastor Adeboye's "No Tithe, No Heaven" Preaching by djon78(m): 9:42am On Apr 20, 2018 |
OkCornel:Go and read my reply before. Jesus told the Samaritan woman salvation is of the Jews . The Deuteronomy and Leviticus you are quoting are under the law. They were under Levi and his sons. Tithing predates the law you were quoting. The patriarch Abraham paid tithe to Melchizedek thereby priest of God Most High and they took communion together. Levi was in the loins of Abraham paying tithe to Melchizedek as stated by the book of Hebrews. The inferior will submit to the superior. The priesthood of Aaron which was inferior submitted and paid tithe to Melchizedek the priesthood order of Christ. Which David prophesied in Old Testament about Jesus quoting; thou art a priesthood for ever after the order of Melchizedek. The law paid tithe to Melchizedek hundreds of years before the law of Moses came into existence. Because Levi was yet in the loins of Abraham paying tithe. Tithing is superior to the law, because it came before the law. This is what the book of Hebrews was showing; the priesthood of Jesus is superior to priesthood of Aaron. The priesthood of Jesus was forever. Melchizedek like Jesus had no beginning. But that of Aaron had a beginning and ending. And all these things are in the book of Hebrews, a book in the new testament. Man can never ever be wiser than God, never. God has put all these things in his word. But gullible people will listen to people who think they can access God's word by human intellect. No way, you can never. To understand God's word is by the Holy Spirit. The person from were that have been fighting tithing has nothing to do with God. To understand the scripture it is not by human intellect. Never. You must be genuinely born again. And don't tell me not to judge because Jesus told us by their fruits you will know them. In my previous post I talked about this generation, they can quote scriptures, they may have a form of godliness but they will deny the power. Sin will be wreaking havoc in their life. Following God comes with humility. Anybody talking anyhow, with no respect for authorities and elders, has nothing to do with God. Because God resists the proud and gives grace to the humble. Humility, meekness, respect is one of the attributes of godliness. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Play Dairo Reacts To Pastor Adeboye's "No Tithe, No Heaven" Preaching by djon78(m): 6:51am On Apr 20, 2018 |
Haddock:Bro I never limited Our love for God to tithing. No not at all. I was just highlighting that God wants to know whether we love money more than him. In our walk with God, His main target is our heart our motive. Our worship of God must come from a pure heart, the fruit of the spirit which is what a genuine child of God must bear love is the first fruit. Love joy peace patience, faith goodness, faithfulness, meekness and self control and against these there is no law. John the beloved the disciple whom the Lord love wrote in 1 John 3 King James Version (KJV) Vs 17 But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him? 18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth. This is God's love example shown here. Believers are not meant to hoard help for a brother in need. In genuine need also and not someone who is lazy, because he who does not work cannot eat, that is also in the Bible. This scripture in 1john I quoted is for every believer to do. And we must judge ourselves by this scripture. I judge myself by it. I am not coming here to talk what I am doing but presently the Lord began to lay in my heart to begin to develop some ideas for the future generation of our children being presently born and their own children that will come after them. Nobody knows when Jesus will come but from what I am seeing this our present world may exist to our children Children's time. If you have personal relationship with the Lord, there is a place you reach, He will begin to tell you what is in his heart. His concern and pain. And know this that God cannot come down from heaven. He needs human being on earth that will enforce His will. Just like the enemy needs people to enforce his agenda, and many are on his wide way while few are on the narrow way. Jesus even said it. So helping a brother in need, love as a virtue stands and the major way God tests our heart is money. Humans work, toil and can do all manner of thing's to get money. Why did Jesus sit at where they were dropping money in the temple and noticed a widow that gave her last mite. It shows that God is completely interested in how we give our money, the motive behind it. Giving is not only tithe and church offerings. A brother in need who comes to you, the motherless, orphans, less privileged are all the needy. Let me tell you you may give out 20 30 40 50 60 even to 90 percent of your income/earnings to different courses and needs. It is all depending on your faith. There was a man that was said to give God 90 percent of his earnings but that man was stupendously rich, with the 10 percent he keeps. God told Abraham to sacrifice Isaac back to him after He had waited so long for the boy to be born. But Abraham who was completely sold out to God did not waste time at all, he moved immediately and had already laid the boy on the altar. God told Abraham to stop. God just wanted to know whether Abraham loved Issac more than Him. And that is how God does with each of His children, He tests our motive and love for Him, whether we love Him more than anything. That is The way our God works. And like I said my tithe is sacred, my ten percent belongs to God, I will never ever place material things above God. My monthly giving is not ten percent it is way above that. I will still take care of the needy, less privileges and my relations around me and because my God knows that my heart is not tied to this earthly things but I am still on the earth and money is needed here to solve so many problems bedevilling humanity will give me the adequate ones to cater to these problems and also by His Grace Whenever I am going home to glory, I will leave good inheritance and legacy of godliness for my childrens children, which is also Gods will for us. And God willing He will do it for me. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Play Dairo Reacts To Pastor Adeboye's "No Tithe, No Heaven" Preaching by djon78(m): 1:57am On Apr 20, 2018 |
Dreadedmaze:That yahoo yahoo, prostitutes are paying tithe does not make it wrong God's foundation still bears the seal let anyone that names the name of Christ depart from iniquity. They won't bribe God, although by God's mercy, some of them embrace truth, repent and starts following Jesus. Jesus said something, while addressing the Samaritan woman; Salvation is of the Jews then even in new testament the book of Hebrews was added by God to still point the origin of God for humanity was still the jews. From Hebrews chapter 4 we have the introduction of Jesus Christ as a high priest. Then chapter 5 6 7 it talked about the superiority of Melchizedek prIesthood to Aaron priesthood. And this Melchizedek priesthood collected tithe from the patriarch Abraham of which Levi was in the loins of Abraham paying tithe to Melchizedek. Now the book of Hebrews was letting us know that the Law represented by Levi while still in the loins of his grandfather was paying tithe to Melchizedek a type of Christ. Tithing came before the law, even Jacob when he was running away from Esau vowed to God that if God prospered him he will pay tithe. This was before the law. Now the patriarch Abraham was not under the law, he operated in faith, he simply believed God and God counted it to him as righteousness. In Roman's 4 we Christians was admonished to copy the faith of Abraham because he was without a heir but still believed God who quickens the dead and calls those things that be not as though they were. A hundred years old man whose body was dead and his wife Sarah who was 90 years and had a dead womb, was not weak in faith. He staggered not at God's promises through unbelief, he was strong in faith, giving glory to God The new testament always pointed us to emulate the Patriarch Abraham in all things. Likewise in Galatians 2 and 3. It simply showed that he lived before the law, he operated by faith, God counted it to him as righteousness and he paid tithe before the law to Melchizedek and this was highlighted again in a new testament book Hebrews to show it's importance. Also in new testament it highlighted how much important the church was. She is the bride of Christ especially emphasized in Ephesians 5 where Apostle Paul was talking about marriage and equated our Christian marriage between man and his wife as a type of the marriage between Christ and the church, where husbands are admonished to love their wives as Christ loved the church and gave himself for it. The chapter went further to say that the marriage between Christ and the church is a mystery. Now the church is superior to anything because the Lord gave himself for his bride the church. Who is the church, the bride of Christ? It is the Body of believers, the church is administered by the five fold ministry of Apostles, Prophets, Pastors, Teachers and Evangelists. they run the administration and direction of the church here on earth. Believers around the world has been paying tithes to their local churches from time I memorial. Most of the past innovator were tithe payers. That chartalans and false prophets came in to abuse it still doesn't make God's principles evil. I believe in accountability, I believe in simplicity, I believe in living by faith, I believe in holiness and anybody carrying God's word must show all these attributes, that false prophets have taken Advantage of God's work does not make it null and void. God is raising a new generation that will shake the foundations of this nation and world. A generation separated completely from the world and serving the Lord in truth and spirit. Also concerning private jet, I was a bit vocal before but the Lord let me understand something. Firstly I have done quite some international travels around the world. There was one I flew from Far East Asia to Nigeria, I flew by Emirates airline, while going I stayed transit in Dubai for over 8 hours, coming back it was lesser hour, infact the kind jet lag and torture my body went through was something else. Those global business men flying private jet hit there destinations faster without wasting there time. Flying private jet can be a necessity and not luxury. Another example when George Weah was to be sworn in as president in Monrovia, I know someone close to me who was invited, to get a flight and back to Nigeria was hell. Although he went, he told me the Nigerian governors, and other officials that came landed that swearing in morning and immediately left after the event with their jets, but he came back many days because of low availability of domestic flight. Thirdly I was flipping through the TV channels one day and I came across Kanye West and his wife Kim Kardashian, they were flying two private jets each, you know what the Lord told me, these are worldly musician and showbiz person leading many people to hell by what they propagate, but they fly private jet anyhow but when someone carrying the gospel of Christ that will save the souls of men from damnation and people will start talking. The Lord is not against private jet as long as it is used for the gospel preaching and not luxury. And mind you the gospel is more important than any other thing because the souls of men is the most important thing. We need it for missionaries and those evangelizing around the world for faster movement. I believe that preachers must live a simple life, not acquiring earthly possessions and accumulation. There are many false prophets around, but there are still genuine and true prophets. The church must do the work she has been called to do as salt and light. Speaking the truth and no hypocrisy, helping those in need and not accumulation of money. We must balance God's word because that false prophets have invaded the church does not mean that God is still not doing His thing. Jesus said let the weath and tares grow together, He never uprooted the tares, during the harvest time the weath was harvested while the tares were burned up. The question that each person should ask himself or herself am I a weath or a tare. Each one should examine his life and make sure he is on the narrow way because many people will be shocked in eternity. May God have mercy on us. Amen l |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Play Dairo Reacts To Pastor Adeboye's "No Tithe, No Heaven" Preaching by djon78(m): 5:13pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
Dreadedmaze:I think you are mixing things up. Tithing for me is reverence to God. It's a sign of respect that God owes my money. Infact God owes everything about us. God owes our money, even our body, Apostle Paul said that know you not that your body is the temple of the God. God owns our wife, children, our intelligence everything we are, or ever be belongs to God. Then for salvation, we couldn't save ourselves, it was still God that came down, took the form of man to save us man. So we are Gods own, dangote is the richest black man on earth. The day aliko will die. He will not take a dime to the other life. Money is for this earth. Why I believe God gave us tithing is to know the condition of our heart. Whether we love money more than Him. Tithe is sacred. It belongs to God. I don't really agree with Adeboye, on what he said. But tithing is of God. It is respect and reverence to God. Most of the time, I laugh at the way Nigerians interpret bible. They always quote English Bible not knowing that it was translated. To get a deep meaning of the Bible and understand it you need to know that the old testament was originally written in Hebrews language while the new testament was written in Greek language. To understand bible get a Hebrew concordance and a Greek concordance when studying the Bible. This will show you the real meaning of each word in its original form. When you do these studies, a holy fear and reverence of God will envelope you. In my studies, I have discovered that the reason why the world is so messed up is because we have left the tenets and lifestyle of the Bible, and embraced heathen cultures. And let me tell the world that they will never have peace but trouble. Because present humanity is run on heathen cultures. Even our forefathers that worshiped traditional religion had respect and reverence for God in their ignorance. But this generation think that they are mate with God. I am really sorry for this generation. They can talk anyhow with no respect. This generation are worse than Sodom and Gomorrah. I am sorry for this generation. What will a man give in exchange for his soul? There is no fear of God again. May God's mercy continue to shower. But if you die in your sin, it will be terrible for you. I am indeed sorry for this generation. A perverse generation, heathen generation. Lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God. Unholy, unthankful, disobedient to parents, having a form of godliness but denying the power. They can quote scriptures but no power. Sin is totally reigning and master of them. May God have mercy on this generation. 1 Like |
| Romance › Re: "Virginity Is Overrated": Quote Non-Virgins Use To Console Themselves by djon78(m): 12:08pm On Apr 18, 2018 |
damosky12:You can say it again bro. They should not be deceived. 1 Like |
| Romance › Re: "Virginity Is Overrated": Quote Non-Virgins Use To Console Themselves by djon78(m): 12:06pm On Apr 18, 2018 |
Sexual purity is a virtue. It is what God expects from us. Being a virgin is a very good thing. Because sex is a very complex and deep thing. So if someone is still intact, it is very good. Moreover many women fornicate around the place today. They have no value for their body. If you have lost your virginity but later repented, and no more fornicate. You are still good. But if you are still fornicating and sleeping around. I am very sorry for you. Sexually immoral person can never inherit the kingdom of God. And the worst thing that can happen to anyone is to miss heaven. I say it again, the worst thing that will happen to you is not to make heaven. What will a man give in exchange for his soul? Turn to Jesus Christ, repent of your sins, He will give you the power to overcome. I am not a virgin. Was a fornicator and sinner but God had mercy on me that I didn't die in my sin. Today Jesus Christ is the Lord of my life. Accept Him today while you still have the time. Please I beg you. You may be going to church, in choir, a worker but you still fornicate and sin. Better repent, cry to God for help, because if you die in your sins. I am sorry for you. Heaven is real and hell is also real. Thanks and God bless you all. Amen 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Deeper Life Headquarters Church Building Lagos, Set To Be Commissioned (Pictures by djon78(m): 11:41am On Apr 18, 2018 |
Dottore:In as much as I see your point. Let me say that having a big church or the church doesn't stop development, rather I believe the church aids development. Most of the time we easily forget where we are coming from. Educational and development concept was founded simply by Christian missionaries into Africa. It was the missionaries that brought education, health and other development structures. Our fore fathers were stark illiterates and backward, they had no education or any form of development. So the black man should always know where he is coming from. Even some of these big Pentecostal churches including orthodox church like Catholic and Anglican are the reason that Nigeria has not gone under. Because the political class has totally misruled this nation for the past 5 decades. Although I will agree that the church must do more. I think a lot of Christians are coming out with initiatives to move this nation forward. Someone like me, I am a true believer in advancing the course of our Lord Jesus Christ in this nation and continent. Were I have much passion is concerning the future generation of our children and their children coming after them. I will soon be hitting 4 decades on the earth. And I believe we seriously need to water the ground and bequeath better legacies to our children and their children coming after them. Our fathers generation did not bequeath anything meaningful to us. They wasted Nigeria. But we can't do that to our children and their children. We must give them sound footing. Example come to Nairaland, see the comments made by many people of this present generation and you will be sorry. If it is not sex, it will be all centred on making money and pleasures of life by any means. So personally I will continue doing what I am doing to ensure my children and their children are given a better legacy. Because the main battle is coming in the future. Every part of the world is preparing seriously for the future not to be left behind. And we owe it to generations coming after us that we bequeath them a good foundation not like our fathers generation that wasted Nigeria. 1 Like |
| Family › Re: I Dream Of Death Anytime I Quarrel With My Wife. I Need Your Advice by djon78(m): 12:38pm On Apr 12, 2018 |
Celestial777:I don't believe in that. Yes she is smarter, but when it comes to the kids, be a very good daddy to them. Be there for them, don't be harsh to them. Even make sure you are good to their mother the best way you can. When the kids grows you will be surprised they will be closer to you. Just ensure you sow the right things into your childrens life. The problem we have is that most of the times, fathers only bring money, but they are not available in their childrens life's while only the wife was available for them thereby they are much closer to the wife. For men genuinely love your wife and your children, in old age will be takimg good care of. |
| Romance › Re: Please Help, I Have Not Been Sleeping Well, My Mind Is Not At Rest. by djon78(m): 10:58am On Apr 11, 2018 |
Megaideas:Thanks you spoke well. God has already forgiven him, it's the devil the liar. I also believe he should talk to his parents. And like you said if he is of age, he should prayerfully plan and get married. To avoid fornication and have legitimate sex with his wife. Sex is a very wonderful gift from God, but it is strictly for marriage. God should help us. Amen |
| Health › Re: Lady Diagnosed With Cancer At 23 And Had Her Eggs Frozen, Shares Her Story. PICS by djon78(m): 3:51pm On Apr 09, 2018 |
ultron12345:Who gave man the wisdom to understand the human body? It is God's. Medicine is a very good thing. St Luke in the Bible was a physician. What is the symbol of medicine? Is it not the bronze serpent that Moses lifted up in the wilderness? Which is a type of Christ. Medicine is good, but there are many diseases that doctors will try and then not have the solution and they will tell the individual you have few months to live. And I have seen people like that go on to live more decades on earth when God intervenes via prayers. The origin of sickness is the fall of man at the garden of Eden. Sin, death which is separation, sickness and disease entered the world through Satan the evil one. Now death has two types spiritual death and physical death. Spiritual death is separation from God which Adam and Eve had when they disobeyed God. But they still lived on earth. Adam died naturally at nine hundred and something years. Jesus Christ God's Son was the second Adam. He had no earthly Father. He was born of a virgin woman Mary. God was his Father. Therefore Jesus Christ did not partake of the Sins of Adam and Eve because every other human being born into this world was a descendant of Adam and therefore partook of Adams sin. That is why human beings Sin. But Jesus Christ came as a sacrifice to atone for the sins of the world. That was why John called Him the Lamb that took away the sins of the world. From prehistoric times, even our fore fathers in Africa did Animal sacrifice, the same in Asia, in South America. From prehistoric times man has always done sacrifice. It is a spiritual law without the shedding of blood there will be no remission of Sin. So Jesus Christ was crucified on the cross of Calvary. Before they crucified him they flogged him 40 strokes. These strokes were not just with cane but ropes that had bottles and nails at its end. It is in history, that was how Roman Empire executed people. Isaiah 53 made us to know that the stripes on his body was for our healing. So Jesus paid for our sin, sickness, disease and pain so that we don't pay for them again. Jesus defeated Satan too at the cross. But we can only access these things by receiving and accepting Jesus into our lives. Living for him. We will make mistakes but he will always lead us on. There are many other things just here is too small for that. |
| Health › Re: Lady Diagnosed With Cancer At 23 And Had Her Eggs Frozen, Shares Her Story. PICS by djon78(m): 4:54am On Apr 09, 2018 |
ultron12345:Read my post. It is not by praying praying. Someone can be praying in unbelief. What brings God's power to we humans is simply faith. Hebrews 11 Vs 6 says Hebrews 11 King James Version (KJV) 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. God's mode of operations is simply faith. How you get things from God is by faith. Many people that Jesus healed while on earth He always tells them, thy faith has made thee whole. There were many sick people during the time of Christ. But it is not all that were healed, but all those that had faith got healed. Example the woman with the issue of blood. Mark 5. She suffered greatly in the hands of physicians that is doctors but she grew worse. For 12 years. But she heard about Jesus the healer and she said in her heart. This man I am hearing about, if only I can touch the hem of his clothes I will be healed. The woman just believed that for this man I hear about, power must be on his clothes. That was faith. So she went when people were pressing on Jesus she touched Jesus hem of his clothes and instantly she became whole of her sickness. And Jesus immediately knew that power had gone out of Him, asked who touched me. But his disciples were amazed because people were pressing on Jesus and he was asking who touched me. People were touching on Jesus but not with faith so nothing happened to them, but that woman touched Jesus with faith and she was instantly healed of 12 years terrible sickness. Jesus played no part in her healing, she went and took it by herself because she had God's currency which is faith. Many Christians don't have God's currency: faith. How do we get faith? Roman's 10 tells us; Romans 10 King James Version (KJV) 17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Faith comes by hearing God's word. That woman heard about Jesus and what she heard built up faith in her. Christians should not joke with God's word, it must be part of their daily life. Study God's word on daily basis. As you do, you are depositing faith inside of you just like you deposit money into your account. When the troubles of life come, because as long as you are on earth Troubles will come. If you have deposits you will come out strong. But if not, you will not survive it. |
| Health › Re: Lady Diagnosed With Cancer At 23 And Had Her Eggs Frozen, Shares Her Story. PICS by djon78(m): 9:02pm On Apr 08, 2018 |
ultron12345:You guys are funny. I know of a billionaire with properties worth more than 50 billion Naira who died of cancer some years ago. That year he died, he collected rent from his properties at 3 billion Naira(got the information from his properties manager), had the best medical care in UK. But came back to Nigeria in coffin, was buried in ikoyi cemetery. The Bible said in psalm 127: Psalm 127 King James Version (KJV) 127 Except the Lord build the house, they labour in vain that build it: except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain. 2 It is vain for you to rise up early, to sit up late, to eat the bread of sorrows: for so he giveth his beloved sleep. See you can go to the doctor if the Lord does not heal you, you can spend all you can and you will die. If you build anything or say you are securing anything without God it is in vain. My chairman, very rich, he has petroleum tank farm, a billionaire used to tell us, that in early 90s, he knew of one top government official that stole Billions, bought properties around the world, he died a decade later, he had 4 sons, as of today 3 of his sons are in the grave, died of wasted, drug life, the remaining one alive is a hopeless poor junkie abroad, wasted all the so called stolen money. Most people think God is a fairytale, God is real, He will judge every deeds done both in this life and in the next life. Man is a spirit and cannot die. The death we experience on earth is just separation from our physical body. Because with our physical body we relate and dwell on the earth and with our spirit which is the real us we relate with God. Adams sin brought spiritual death, separation from God, which is the worst death. While Jesus Christ death and resurrection restored us to God. All you need to do is accept Jesus the sacrificial lamb who took away the sins of the world as your Lord and personal Savior. You are sure belong to God. You are alive and the day you die, you are going to heaven. For healing, at the cross, Jesus was whipped on His body and Isaiah 53 which was talking about Jesus Isaiah 53 King James Version (KJV) Vs 5 5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. Those stripes on the body of Jesus Christ was for the healing of humanity. Anybody suffering from any kind of sickness, terminal sickness which the doctors have given you date to die and you simply believe and accept that Jesus has already carried your sickness. You will live. But if you don't believe, you will die because of lack of faith in God's word. You don't need much faith, you just need faith as small as mustard seed, which is very tiny. Why do a lot of even Christians die to sickness it's because of ignorance, lack of knowledge of God's word Hosea 4 Vs 6. Also Jesus warned us in Matthew 7 as Christians to be serious with His word Matthew 7 King James Version (KJV) vs 24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it. There were two types of people one hears God's words and apply and do them in his or her life. The other hears God's word but doesn't apply or do it. The rain and floods of life beat on them both. Rains and floods represent troubles of life. Sickness, disease, loss of fortune, hardships etc. It comes on every man on earth, it can come as cancer, or any other sickness, loss of business, or any other thing. But the man that survived the floods and rains or life's troubles was the man who was hearing God's word and applying and doing them in his life. Because his life was like a house built on a rock, a house with strong foundation. So the troubles of life didn't bring him or her down. But the other person never took God's word serious, the troubles of life beat him or her down. Because he was like a house built on a sand. So build your house on the rock. focus daily on God's word. when troubles of life comes you will stand no matter what. Because God's word is powerful and strong. 1 Like |
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