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You think these kinds of childish praise singing, focusing on inanities will improve the standard of living in Nigeria?

Quintessence44:
Mr President, fondly known as Jagaban to his supporters, entered the hall, and Indian billionaire investors RUSHED HIM to shake his hands and welcome him to India.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUhInHcYUo0&ab_channel=ViableTv

Be wise! Agents can be bought.

Best way to have credible and transparent elections is to reduce human interference

adem30:
Why not collect results from your agents at every polling units to prove your case.
...Childish people

Can you rig a result everyone is seeing in real-time? Absolutely NOT!

Wainey:
real time iRev wouldn't have changed anything.

The iRev is just there for us to follow up the election at the comfort of ur home while in real time, it won't stop rigging if there was a rigging cos rigging is better done in the collation centre

INEC is the umpire, if they decides to work with any party last minute, no opposition will see it coming.

You can grow a country by accepting that indeed there was rigging but that if opposition had worked together, they would have won inspite of the rigging. My question to you is that don't you want credible and transparent elections?

IconicR:
If you understand rigging you'll know there's a certain overwhelming defeat that no rigging can save you which was bound to happen if God didn't want Asiwaju to win

They don't need to have one voice because the intention is not to gang up against tinubu but for them to test their popularity and acceptance.

INEC ruined everything!

IconicR:
Of these people had one voice, no INEC would have done the magic

It would have been an overwhelming defeat

You're not an honest man!

Everybody in Nigeria saw how INEC shutdown IREV thereby forcing manual collation overnight where results were changed. All election observers both local and foreign condemned the elections but here you are using speculation to arrive at a conclusion rather than what actually happened.

Even in Rivers and Benue, the eventual uploaded results by INEC shows Obi won.

Wainey:
PDP thought they can break into 5 different parts and one of the parts is still capable of beating APC the ruling party.

This is pure delusional, no matter how weak APC is, they still have supporters. Thinking you can do away with Obi, Kwankwasor, Wike etc and still win doesn't make sense to me.
Lets forget Atiku for now, only Obi and Kwankwasor alliance would have been a big problem for APC, but greed and braggadocios was the problem of the opposition.
The election was not rigged, I never expected APC to lose

You cannot even read to comprehend

BentizilL:
Hope something is not wrong with you, who are the common people that stole your commonwealth?

Is that why you want the Pandora thief to rule us in Nigeria?

Judgement that was written by Tinubu legal team?

Wainey:
But as a politician, he knows he needs to remain relevant till 2027 election else he gets forgotten like Peter Odili. The surest ways to maintain this momentum is to always be in the news with the court case, Atiku has been using this strategy too and it has always worked for him.
Anyone who followed the PEPT judgement knows Obi actually lost the election, and he knows there is no black magic that will just take teleport him from third position to first position.

If I was in his shoes, I will also do thesame.

Is this your defense? Like you cannot say that the killers do not represent Islam but rather you're saying they kill also?

This shows you accept what he said, your only issue is that you guys are not the only ones

iamrealdeji:
But your members in America killed more Muslims in Lebanon,Kosovo,Yugoslavia,Sudan,Syria,etc than any muslim. Christians have more terrorists than Muslims but they're always quick to point accusing fingers

Igbo hatred at its peak!

You have not said you'll leave Nigeria because of the terrorism toga it carries because of Northern bokoharam, Fulani herdsmen and bandits, neither have you said because its classified as the poverty capital of the world because of Northern Nigeria but you're mentioning the great Igbo nationality.

Tell me what Biafra which you've been opposing is all about; not to separate from you and the rest of Nigeria? Pretenders!

wowcatty:
A Yoruba proverb says when a cripple commits a crime, it's the people with legs that will do the run around.

Igbos are causing problems everywhere they are found and Yoruba are sharing in the punishment for identifying as Nigerians.

An igbo has been linked to a murder in Dododawa Ghana and Yoruba are sharing in the punishment right now.

If Pakistanis decide to go after Nigerians, Yoruba will share in the whatever they decide to do to Nigerians.

United Kingdom has 4 nations within its borders and all 4 identity themselves officially as
1. English
2. Irish
3. Welsh
4. Scotish
even during oath ceremony at USCIS, so why can't Yoruba do the same? Only immigrants call themselves British. It's understandable why others don't need to do it, but as Yoruba we have name, culture and traditions to protect. We should be saying 'Ile-Yoruba' whenever we are asked where we are from and when asked where exactly it is, you should respond with 'it's unfortunately currently part of what is now known as Nigeria and hopefully we will go back to being an independent country soon'. Yoruba please don't sink with this ship, let people know that we are not the sane and we are just forced to share the country.

Let this be known anywhere you find yourselves so when next a crime is committed in the name of Nigeria by people who thrive in chaos and don't know what humility and respect is, you will be spared.

You as an ordinary citizen is not concerned if corrupt people who has stolen from our commonwealth are prosecuted but rather party protection.

How does the party benefit you?

BentizilL:
Leave those foolish people, they all want the party to collapse within...

All Nigerian knows that Buhari further ruin this country...

We can only speak for who we support

chariiks:
Everybody Peter Obi this Peter that. Is he the only candidate?

Card reader were made not to work in some places so they could use incident forms to rig

ednut1:
card readers that didn’t work. Have you forgotten incident form

Is it your disgrace?

Throwback:
Peter Obi wants his disgrace to be total.

Like the tortoise who was asked when he will return from his journey, he replied, "not until I've been disgraced".

Baba wan steal mandate after losing election, but at this stage, even mango e no go see pluck for jungle.

We actually wanna waste our resources at the Supreme Court. Infact, we've been looking for where to waste our resources!

AllenSpencer:
Bitter truth!


In life, you need a friend who can look into your eyes and tell you the truth!

Those around Peter won’t make Heaven

GEJ brought card readers that effectively removed him. Not all leaders are selfish!

ednut1:
a Nigerian president will push for what will reduce his budget and income sources After spending billions to get elected. Wild dreams

I agree with you that a president lacks the power to restructure however if he has majority in the NASS, he can push the lawmakers from his party to do it

EXOUSIAng:
You people will just go about speaking English and speaking boldly about things you know nothing about.
How is a president supposed to get you restructuring?
Is he the National Assembly?
If you don't know the function of the sit of the president you ask.
That's how some so-called educated people from the East be expecting the president to give them Biafra, expecting the president to arrange for a referendum.
Know your arms of government and their responsibilities.
You want restructuring go and tell your senator and your House member to move a motion.
These are things that will be
delebrated upon on the floor not things the president can take decision on in Aso Rock.
Unfortunately these airheads don't know, they beat their senators in Germany same men who are supposed to table their case at the National Assembly.....

Nigeria president lacks constitutional powers to restructure Nigeria.

Only the NASS can!

GYBABA:
A cogent point which has been made by political experts, those that have been actively involved & just normal observers is that restructuring would be very beneficial to Nigeria & will unequivocally hasten development throughout Nigeria as different regions will develop at their own pace with your own resources & citizens will be more likely to hold their leaders accountable if they perceive other regions developing excellently well while theirs is maintaining status quo or is worsening.

After all, Nigeria is a multicultural, multi-complex country & definitely not a nation. Even places that could easily count as a nation due to sharing one language had to go through the restructuring process.

Why then are our leaders particularly the Presidents taking a cue to try it out atleast if the president is very much willing & expresses his wish for that & even orders it to be implemented, there's high likelihood that it'll happen but the problem is the top-dogs aren't even making any definite actions to make this true. Are the cabals in government not also singing it to their ears, what are the special advisers also doing? Is no one in government without plans to make it work?

When the idea of restructuring comes up, there is this belief that Northern Presidents, Governors & other political leaders from up North won't allow it because it won't favour their region particularly because of crude oil revenues that they'll miss out on. Hence, they'll kick against it but then what about the Southern leaders? We've had Obasanjo, he did nothing, then even Jonathan who's from the oil rich state did nothing in that regard too. There were beliefs by some that Jonathan would have been the best suited to implement it because it won't affect him that much since he comes from a state that would keep enjoying the dough from crude oil but lo & behold, restructuring was aborted before it could even develop to a baby.

Now we have another GCFR from the South in person of Tinubu, the super Jagaban who could make it work but isn't really talking about it or acting like he'll even implement it. There's really no hope it'll happen. They will rather keep all the power in the centre & on one individual rather than empowering these federating units, regions or states more & this same cycle will keep occurring over & over & over again.

If it's a Northern leader, forget about it but a Southern leader should still give hope of restructuring happening. Why then are they not doing anything? Why is no one doing anything? Is restructuring that difficult to achieve? Am I missing something? Is it a taboo?

In all, it seems they dread it regardless of where they come from. Please you can air your thoughts without yabbing, derailing or turning this negatively into a tribal war or political brouhaha. Please the senseless ones should please have sense! Be civil! Thank you.

PS.: We don't really need to split the country totally. No! Just restructure! This will give a little semblance of secession but every region will still be connected to the central idea of Nigeria unlike secession that's totally partition. Just give restructuring a chance! Our leaders please!

PS2. : It is not the President's duty to kick start a process of restructuring. It's actually the duty of the Legislature (National Assembly members). It's only after these law-makers initiate it that the President can choose to assent or reject it. It's was never the President(s)! It's the Senators work! Hold your leaders accountable!

You guys are always defenders of absurdity!

Pakute:
He was receiving initial treatment in Ibadan before being referred abroad. If he had to report back to same place upon his return, then so be it.

Thats what people said to Adeleke when the appeal court gave judgment!

Supreme Court must rule before election is over

seunmsg:
You do t have to comment on every thread especially when you have nothing sensible to contribute. This is not an election wailing thread. If you have evidence of any wrongdoing against MC or anyone, go to court and stop spewing nonsense all over the place.

Election is over, the court has ruled and people are moving on with their lives. Move on and stop saying the same nonsense on every thread over and over again.

Is this a thread? A thread that trying to legitimize an illegitimate govt

LegendHero:
Go and play with your feeder.

Don’t derail this thread.

Trying hard to convince yourself Tinubu won the election. You can't deceive Nigerians!

This is based on INEC fake results.

Again, why did the PEPT read judgement written by Tinubu's legal team, no wonder they were reading it like they saw it for the first time.

LegendHero:
Happy Weekend Nairalanders! Hope the weekend is going fine.

I thought bout displaying several metrics of from the data of the Nigeria election result using religious demographics, regional demographics, and national spread of all the 3 top candidates in the last election.

This visuals tell more story and give the viewer more insight on how each candidate fared religion wise, regional wise, and national wise. From all chart and visual available to us from frontline media, there hasn't been one that encompass all these details.

I did this visuals using python and made use of the geopandas and matplotlib libraries.

Below are the sources of my data:
Religious Demograpics data: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/331532913_Religion_and_Voter_Choice_Homogeneity_in_the_Nigerian_Presidential_Elections_of_the_Fourth_Republic

Election Result Source: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023-presidential-election-results-by-states/

Chart 1: How Tinubu Fared Based on State Religious Demographics

Chart 2: How Obi Fared Based on State Religious Demographics

Chart 3: How Atiku Fared Based on State Religious Demographics

CC: Mynd44

What if Adeleke followed your advice and did not go to Supreme Court?

nikky5:
Peter Obi is no doubt a good man in character. I like him for his humility and civility. The fact remains that politics is a game of numbers and a winner must emerge. Obi changed the narrative of the political landscape in Nigeria. It's rather unfortunate that he lost the 2023 Presidential election.

The PEPT judgement on his petitions against the incumbent president also affirmed that Obi actually lost the election with a distant third position. But that's not the end of the world. He needs to accept the verdict and congratulate Asiwaju. That will be a demonstration of good sportsmanship.

Obi must not proceed to the Supreme Court for redress if he wants to remain relevant in Nigeria politics. If APC had fielded Osinbajo, he would have been nowhere. He was able to garner support of Nigerians because of APC Muslim Muslim ticket.

Barely 72 hours to the presidential election, all his 36 states chairmen had told him that he cannot win the election. He lost.

If he goes to the supreme Court to seek his lost but not stolen mandate, he should expect the following:

1. He will surely lose. He has no chance of winning or reclaiming a lost mandate. He will end up wasting his time and money.

2. Labour party has welcomed the judgement of PEPT on Obi's petition. His part knew he cannot win the case. I foresee Obi leaving Labour party.

3. Obi may retire from partisan politics because he may no longer enjoy the support of Labour party. The PDP and APC may not welcome him.

4. As a result of his imminent defeat at the Supreme Court, the obidients will lose their support base especially those from the south west and North Central.

Now, let's ask ourselves this all important question, is politics a do or die affair?

You're ignorant!

RonuRonu:
I'll advice Peter Obi not to go to Court, starve Lawyers let me see how their family will eat.

Supreme court judges are waiting for you to come waste your money, because they already know who will come out victorious at last.

If Politicians can adhere to this my awesome advise, judges will start doing the right thing.

Furthermore, i don't want anyone from the North to rule Nigeria again, since the President is still from the South, we are good to go.

That is not a watermark but a header. You can't scan header into a document

Acekidc4:
Good Clarification because most of these Obidients and Ipob Miscreants are too dull and dense to comprehend simple matter like this!!

He is not his brother!

TemplarLandry:
This will reset his medulla,
And the evil spirit of Hellupeeism will flee from him.

#Scapegoat

Don't think the table will not turn so if you are happy that the tribunal trashed electronic transmission and IREV, it might affect your candidate tomorrow besides it means we're retrogressing

searchng4love:
Gone insane since the principal lost woefully.

Akande should shave his horrible beards...

Is it your disgrace?

helinues:
It's good you acknowledge their are bereaved people.

This is only a political discussion, nothing like crying or taking paracetamol on behalf of the bereaved.

We say things the way they are without mincing words.

Disgrace awaits Peter Obi, Atiku at Supreme court. If you have issue with that, go to court

Did Adeleke tendered new evidence at the Supreme Court?

helinues:
Disgrace awaits you at Supreme court.

Like I have been saying, you don't need a brain to be Obidients. Do Obi and his supporters think new evidence would be presented at SC?

So which miracle are they expecting at SC when they couldn't even tell PEPT the polling stations they were rigged, number of discrepancy votes, the votes he should have received, what figure he had to have won the election, which states he received the required 25% in 24 states and how they arrived at it.

Na a must for a stubborn fly to follow the corpse to the grave

https://www.nairaland.com/7834089/loss-poll-defeated-pept-disgrace

The train can carry the number but the inside facilities starts to break...like seat, window frames, poles, handles

Kog45:
Oga even for Dubai Metro train people Dey full am like Molue….go to Europe see people plenty on board standing,so no need for lambs here