₦airaland Forum

You all will be put to shame when the mandate thief is sacked by the courts

Does it mean they don't feel it?

talented321:
For where you dey, they no dey build house, buy cars and vice versa

So not everyone feels the economic hardship?

talented321:
People complaining against a govt is not a new thing in nigeria, it started back then from military rule.
If your preferred candidate didnot win, there is a possibilty you will complain. The same way if your preferred candidate win the others will complain and try their possible best to spoil the govt.
So it not a new thing, any how tinubu do you will not like it.

You hate Igbos and still hate to see them go.Thats a mental problem

FairlyUSEDpussy:
False........
Biafrau.d is dead and buried........

You guys still fall for these kinds of drama and distractions? It said data obtainrd from CBN website meaning its public knowledge.

The office of the NSA requires money to run, lets not fall for APC propaganda

God1000:
This man is in hot water, he should be prosecuted for all his crimes and malfeasance.


But don't make him a lightning rod, get all of them

When same thing happen to you or your love ones, do not complain.

A covilized society does not torture people to get information, they investigate. Seems you don't know that depriving someone of water is life torture

ba7man:
They don't need to torture him. Just deprive him of food till he's ready to talk......to save time, they can deprive him of water.

No need to beat or torture him.

You'll have to form Oduduwa republic to achieve that else its impossible[quote author=November1857 post=124093775]https://twitter.com/adeosunm/status/1673596475916398592?t=6Y5oX6KONvm6OQ9NhxTGzA&s=19[/quote]

The North is too big and powerful to be playing the victim!

Arrewa:
Religious and tribal slur on nairaland is not a coincidence. Someone is systematically enabling it mainly against the north and Muslims

Look at this...

Its just a book

God1000:
This is one of the reasons turkey is blocking their bid to join NATO.

As a Christian, I don't support the burning of quran

The court will determine the authenticity but looks like arrangee because it was after the fact!

Afamed:
The one Waec rep aknowledged and presented to the court yesterday was gotten from Ochanja?

Una too like to wail

I will not offer you my time to waste

We're talking for the actual election results to be determined by the court since INEC has failed, you're still speculating as if the election has not happened

Grayoso:
How did Obi or Atiku win? It is impossible for Obi to ever gain the 25% spread in the minimum number of State required to claim victory.

Stop working yourself up because you're desperate for the victory of your kinsman.

Those you are ethnically and sectionally affiliated with, regardless of what you have been brainwashed to believe, are not the only ones capable of "rescuing" or "developing" Nigeria as you like claiming.

Compare N87 to N195, you'll see how you increased your suffering by yourself

Bringbackmandat:
maybe you don't understand what we are talking about, do you know it was only Yar'adua that has ever reduced fuel price?

You have no point. Clearly, Sanwo-Olu does not have waec certificate.

Afamed:
You are neither here nor there

When you chased out GEJ, you were buying fuel at N87. Let that sink in!

Bringbackmandat:
at least we were buying fuel at 178 when Buhari was there. Go and buy fuel now then come let us talk.

Nah, APC wrecked Nigeria. PDP compared to APC, did relatively well especially because there was no one before them to look as example in order to avoid their failures

LegendHero:
What is exchange rate in 1999 when Obasanjo took over?

It was just 21 naira and PDP took it to 200. That’s *10.

APC met it at 200 and it’s still 700+, that’s *3.x.

Not that I’m saying Buhari government did well, but never in your life use PDP as a measure of good governance again. Those guys are the one that actually wrecked Nigeria.

You can't build something on nothing. Tinubu did not win the election. Anything after that is nothing!

Grayoso:
Lol. You're always emotional, clannish and myopic. Do you honestly think all the moves Tinubu is making now is Obi's level?

Do you think if Obi had become President we would not have a Northern Conservative and 'business as usual' Senate President who would then be a 'gatekeeper' against all reformational bills that may move Nigeria forward drastically that vested interest would surely want to kill?

Looking at how well Yari even did against Akpabio, tell me with precise example how Obi, a follower at political Party level his entire life, would have landed a Southern Senate President, and prevented 8 wasted years for Nigeria and the South, when Tinubu who creates leaders and political platforms just about got Akpabio over the line.

You guys should grow up abeg. Stop being slaves, year in and year out, to sentiments and emotions merely because you have been brainwashed never to support or give props to non-Igbos.

https://punchng.com/only-tinubu-can-break-cabal-holding-nigeria-down-ex-nupeng-scribe-kokori/?amp

Obi won the election hands down and his mandate will be retrieved

Penguin2:
Opening Remark: Without Peter Obi in the 2023 Presidential Election, there wouldn’t have been a Tinubu Presidency. But do Tinubu supporters realize this?

More often than not, you hear some people blaming Peter Obi for contesting the 2023 presidential election; and by so doing, divided opposition and denied Atiku of victory.

Well, you cannot blame people who hold the above view because they have right to think what they want and to speak in favour of what think would have best served their interest.

But contrary to the people who think Obi was wrong to have contested the election, I think Obi was right to have participated and his participation was justified in all ramification, strategy and calculation. I’ll tell you why.

The 2023 Presidential Election was existential to three set of people. First, to southern Nigerians, second, to Southeastern Nigerians and lastly, to Nigerian Christians.

The election was existential to Southern Nigerians because there was a threat of the transition of power from one northerner to another northerner, i.e Atiku trying to succeed Buhari. I am not sure a lot of southerners understood the danger that that portended which was why they were supporting Atiku. The implication is that, had Atiku succeeded, the north would felt the have gotten the magic and formula to perpetuate themselves in power for as long as possible. I don’t think you understand me. Let me explain further. Atiku’s argument for contesting was that no one else can win the election for PDP except for himself, and that PDP should rather think about winning election than following Party’s constitution on zoning. Had he won, in 8 years, another northerner (possibly Kwankwaso) will jump into APC and proffer same argument that only he can win election against PDP’s southern candidate (PDP would wanna go south after Atiku). Then he (the APC candidate) will probably go into alliance with Southwest again to dislodge the PDP candidate who is most likely going to come from either Southsouth or Southeast. The northern APC candidate is most likely to succeed. Then after his own 8 years, another northerner would have jumped into PDP to convince them that only a northerner can wrestle power from APC’s likely Southwest candidate. And that’s how the cycle would have continued. Atiku failed in this mission only because Obi pulled away from PDP and thereby put a wedge on that mission.

Similarly, the election was existential to people of Southeast because after 8 years of Buhari’s southeast-excluding administration, it was imperative and existential that Igbos and southeasterners supported one of their own or a friend of theirs to power so they don’t suffer same fate they suffered under Buhari for another 8 years. Atiku knew this sentiment and that was what he wanted to capitalize on before Peter Obi pulled the rug off his feet. But takeaway Peter Obi and the Southeast and Southsouth would have voted Atiku. You might argue that the turnout may have been lesser but I still would have been enough to cover up Tinubu’s less than 2million vote difference.

Lastly, the 2023 presidential election was existential to Nigerian Christians who were not comfortable in having a transition from a Muslim president to another Muslim president. But was their fear misplaced? No. St. Augustine of Hippo who is regarded as one of the (Catholic) Church Fathers was the Catholic Bishop of Carthage in present day Tunisia. Then Tunisia was a Christian territory but today Tunisia is a Muslim country. Turkey is the birth place of Mary Mother of Jesus. But Turkey is a Muslim Country today. All these were through forced conversion. So, knowing histories like this, one would not blame Christians when they express some misgivings about the religious dimensions of some happenings in our society and political space. Our only solace is that the man who presently holds sway has never shown himself to be a religious fundamentalist.

Now, having background of the above, you would better appreciate it when you hear someone blame Obi for contesting the election.

You might want to find out if he’s a northern hegemonist who wanted power transitioned from a northerner to another northerner, or southeasterner who would have preferred a friend of Ndigbo in power even if the future implication of such occurrence was going to be dire (some people do not think beyond the now though), or is the person a Christian who would have preferred a balanced ticket winning the election and therefore blames Obi for causing the emergence of a Muslim Muslim presidency.

But if you ask me, I would tell you that of all the existentialisms that existed before the election, the one that was most essential was the existential threat that a transition from a northerner to another northerner would have portended to the generality of Southern Nigerians. I say this because since the Southeast is a microcosm of the macrocosm that is Southern Nigeria, it can sacrifice its subjective interest for the objective and altruistic interest of the entire south. In the end, what the Southeast is yearning for is the same thing that the entire south is yearning for - a restructured Nigeria, a Nigeria based on merit and not quota system, the addressing of the obvious imbalances that exists in the Nigerian polity which were designed to favour a particular section of the country, etc. If a southern President (irrespective of where he’s from) achieves this, the demands of the southeast must have been addressed by half or more.

Some people say why did Obi contest when he knew the odds were against him and that he cannot win, and I ask, were the odds really against him?

Obi was in pole position of winning 3 regions of Southeast, Southsouth and North Central. He was going to come close second in Southwest, and try to put up considerable outing in Northwest and Northeast which would have been enough to give him victory.

Believe me, the outcome of the election followed that trajectory but like Josef Stalin said, “those who cast the votes decide nothing; those who count the votes decide everything”, those who counted the votes decided what they wanted and now we must leave the courts to review what was done.

But in the meantime, my verdict is that Obi was not wrong to have participated in the 2023 presidential election. Even if the result of that choice is a Tinubu presidency, I believe that is better than having a northerner succeed another northerner at the presidency.

Now, the north has been taught a valuable lesson - that they can’t do without the south and now every section of this country must respect the conventional zoning arrangement that ensures that every section of this country feels that they are part of the project that is called Nigeria.

Penguin is a bird of reason!!!

Says a nobody

Parachoco:
The 2023 Presidential Election is Free and Fair

You're just a corrupt child

TemplarLandry:
Last time I checked, Nigeria was still a sovereign state. Someone should tell this European bloc to stop pokenosing into our internal affairs. Anything African is never good enough in their eyes.

Look at the exchange rate, something APC took from PDP with less than N200 to the dollar.

Nigerians wrecked themselves

LegendHero:
This could be of great help to source $$ from diaspora by the actual banking sector.

A welcome development.

GTbank currently doing @771 to $1
Zenith bank offering @730 to $1

Bubu really deceived the gullibles that he was a man of integrity

Did the waec rep tender the certified true copy? Why was the result not on the portal at the time of filing the petition?

Afamed:
Stop listening to fake news. From the Tribunal, the Rep from Waec was present to acknowledge the authenticity of Mr Gov certificate. Watch Channels news at 8 or Arise or TVs news. The news was just televised on TVs few minutes ago now

What concerns us is the presidential election petition and when Amoda will be sacked.

All these cosmetics does not sway us

You're a stakeholder because your votes collectively determine who is gov.

If everybody have your mindset, the country is for sure toast.

ekineme:
I stand for "JUSTICE" but my opinion doesn't count here, it's between the petitioner, the court and the petitioned.

Big lie! APC has 20%

Tsolutionifede:
APC has 23% from time

So as a citizen who wouldn't be given a small job without certificate with 2.1 will accept out of court settlement for your gov to rule you without certificate?

Why do you allow politicians get away with fraud but you'll accept a yam thief being lynched?

ekineme:
The best option is an out of court settlement.

That's if the petitioner is interested in monetary gain else, Let justice prevail.

" If you must answer his excellence, the process by which you emerge must be excellent.(P.Obi, 2023)"

Doesn't work like that. If they were in same party, APC would have rigged even more to win.

Khallicopyro:
Simple truth. Imagine Atiku's votes + Obi's......