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Zoning started from somewhere to meet a need, microzoning can start from somewhere also to meet a need. All in all, same principles drive both!

Reality3080:
tell me when we ever had micro zoning in d history of democracy in Nigeria?

The kids are young, let them be with their mom, he doesn't need custody. He needs to take care of their upkeeps and do visitation.

When they're of age, they'll decide.

He shouldn't die of stress just to drag his children, he is expecting a child and his first children as well as the unborn one need him alive.

Kobojunkie:
1. That's a lie! We need to stop making these ridiculous assumptions !

2. If he seeks divorce from her first, chances are high that he will not get custody of his kids , if she has a good lawyer meaning he will for real loose access to them by the courts.

No wonder you're suffering. Sense you nor get.

suffering:
Marry both of them since she’s making herself available.

Trying to get your kids at this time is trying to get their crazy mom back. It's same reason Churchill is not dragging Andre from Tonto at this time.

He will go for the kids at the fullness of time however I support the part of getting divorce sorted out asap and funding the children living cos they're victims in this whole debacle

Kobojunkie:
Why hasn't this man who now claims to no longer be broke sought to have his children returned to him since then?

Nothing stops him from reporting his still legal wife for kidnapping if he really desires access to his kids that is.

Yeye dey smell

obembet:
I don't like one side of the story.

Let hear you wife side.. Some men are wicked

A man that's broke cos he lost his means of livelihood is in no position to involve the police cos these things require money. Even the children you want him to fight for, does he have the means to train them alone at that time? The man was already in a hole, it would be unwise for him to keep digging

Kobojunkie:
What the woman did amounts to kidnapping and if the man had really wanted access to his kids, all he had to do was report her action to the police and she would eventually be forced to return them.

Question should instead be, did the Op really want access to his kids or is he just here to tell us a story of what happened.

So you believe that nonsense woman and dead child fable?

Ovamboland:
You're like the woman with the dead child standing before King Solomon.
Objective observers know people with such attitude don't merit or deserve anything.

Then let Biafra go since you hate them. You are not supposed to be compatriots with people you dislike

Dsalvo:
Lol. You are part of a tiny minority. How many Nigerians do you know who trust Igbos enough to give them ultimate power over their lives?

Some of you are the problem of Igbos. Rather than advise them to change their ways and work to gain the trust of Nigerians you'll be making stupid announcement about "equity" and "justice" decieving them over an impossible ambition.

The Devil too has never been President of Nigeria. Why don't we invite him from hell to be our President for equity and justice sake?

A people fight, insult, demean and castigate a their fellow citizens 23 hours every single damn day only to come at the last hour arrogantly demanding to lead those same people.

Are some of you for real? Who would vote an Igbo man President of Nigeria, against a candidate from any other ethnic group of Nigeria , other than Igbos alone?

So if you understand this why do you take offense?

Ovamboland:
Being civil is not in their DNA, it's like asking North pole to shift to South pole

This una shrewd mentality go scatter Nigeria las las. Do not say you weren't warned

Reality3080:
what do u mean by justice,equity n fairness in a competitive setting?

Where was tgat when real Madrid won champions league back to back?

Anything competition is survival of d fittest, only d strong can survive.

Yaradua n buhari are from d same region n no one is fighting cos they all fought to b dere so forget that crap of equity.

Everyone contested in 1999,u were defeated n now u are presenting it as if u didn't put in a fight.

It's just like 2 boxers fighting for a belt,A defeated B the first time n it's time for rematch n B is saying he should b given d belt on the platter of equity fairness n justice.

Fight for it n have it simple

That was make belief primaries. Obj was already chosen by the North, the others were there to be shocked

seunmsg:
Some of you are very poor student of history so it’s not really surprising seeing your very ignorant comments all over the place.

Below is the result of the 1999 PDP presidential primary election that produced Obasanjo as the party’s candidate:


OLUSEGUN OBASANJO (SOUTH WEST) 1,658 67.98%
ALEX EKWUEME (SOUTH EAST) 521 21.36%
DON ETIEBET (SOUTH SOUTH) 106 4.35%
GRAHAM DOUGLAS (SOUTH SOUTH)71 2.91%
JIM NWOBODO (SOUTH EAST) 59 2.42%
PHILIP ASIODU (SOUTH SOUTH) 12 0.49%
FRANCIS ELLAH (SOUTH SOUTH) 12 0.49%.

Why do we need zoning at all? The same wisdom that drives zoning drives micro zoning

Reality3080:
let every southerner contest

Nothing like micro zoning

We have never microzoned b4 n we can't start now

What you're trying to do is to rotate power perpetually btw NW and SW being the population centres in the North and South respectively. This defeats the spirit behind power rotation in the first place.

Until such a time when electronic collation and transmission is put in place to know the real voting strength of each region power should go to the SE, then NE then NC

seunmsg:
Power shift is between north and south. The presidency has never been microzoned and will never be microzoned.

If the SE like, let them come out and contest against the rest of the south for the presidential tickets of the two major parties or continue to issue useless threads up and down. The rest of the south will contest and do everything possible to ensure power is shifted to the south in 2023.

Don't mind them, forming feminist but dying to please a guy somewhere

HELLASJ:
But you posted this yeah? Be deceiving yourself

Seems you've not gone to Europe or North America. Your perspective will change, trust me!

Iyaebe:
Carry your exposure go shoprite and let's see how much things you go fit buy

Run along, you ain't making sense!

Pakute:
You're even more foolish and dumb. Every region was liberty to develop at its own pace with the resources at her disposal. It was for the fact that your forefathers had no foresight to facilitate the development of her people and the prospects of her people abroad which is your bane in every human developmental index.
But you believed the embassy had to be scrapped because your head is scrapped off its brain box. Do we have Scottish, Wales & Northern Ireland embassies in Nigerian yet Nigeria has an embassy in the UK?
Swear down, you guys are a pile of scum.
I wished Gowon had finished you off completely.

It was a foolish thing, it has to be scrapped. Do we have the Scottish, Wales, Northern Ireland embassies in Nigeria?

christistruth01:
The British Colonial Government Permitted the Western Region to have its own UK Embassy it was part of the Regional autonomy Awolowo negotiated at Independence so what is the Problem


It was Ironsi's Unification decree that closed that Embassy down

Your analogy does not make sense, not applicable to the situation. You cannot love what you hate. 6 months is not enough to do anything that would last for generations unless that's what the people wanted.

I will not respond further

Deadlytruth:
I have put up a simple analogy above for you but rather than answer yes or no you have chosen to still hammer on your question which made me give that analogy. Will you yourself as an individual believe in working under the guidance of an agreement with a person who you know has a reputation of easily reneging on the agreements he enters into?
Are you aware that in 1978 an attempt was made to correct Ironsi's blunder when Obasanjo, as military HOS, gave the charge to Professor Nwabueze (the same man who advised Ironsi to impose unitary system on the country just 12 years earlier on) to, through the 1978 Constitutional Conference, come up with recommendation on necessary ammendment of the exclusive, concurrent and residual lists only for Nwabueze to further transfer more items from both the concurrent and residual lists to the exclusive list claiming he wanted national unity exactly as he did under Ironsi even though he had by virtue of the costly Biafra war and the plundering of the Niger Delta wealth by other regions seen with his own eyes the danger in having a center too strong? If you want a link to the story in which he made this confession with his own mouth I will gladly furnish you with it here and now.

Doesn't make sense that what Ironsi allegedly did was stucked to after just being in power for 6onths. Common, it's takes years to enforce an unpopular ideology.

Even till today, many people still reject the thought of true federalism with resource control

Deadlytruth:
Then you are obviously not a Nigerian. If you knew the circumstances of mutual suspicion that led to the making of that structure in the first instance you wouldn't ask this question at all.
If you and another person are heavily skeptical of each other and totally lack mutual trust and because of that you draw up a deed of agreement and both sign it, only for you to later uncover instances of violation of that deed by the other party, will you ever agree to work with that person under any kind of deed of agreement again? Wouldn't you believe that he is not trustworthy or disciplined enough to subject himself to any form of agreement?

Oduduwa Republic is not for your generation. Your generation will not do necessary changes in Nigeria even when there's existential threats.

Why not push for separation so that a Northern president can rule the North perpetually? The South can have their own Southern president or better still Biafra and Oodua have their presidents

NaijirianKing:
This administration is facing severe funding challenges due to the global slow down and a general drop in oil revenues.

Nigeria is heavily dependent on such inflows. Unfortunately, much of the capital made by the country has been diverted to infrastructural projects in the south, the 2nd Niger Bridge, Lagos-Ibadan Express Way, Lagos Blue Line and Red Line, trains connecting almost every part of southern Nigeria, port complexes being built on the Atlantic Ocean, just to name a few.

The real question is, what is left for the North? There is almost nothing left for the basics like security at a time when that is what matters the most. People are being kidnapped almost hourly, roads are not safe, schools are not safe, even life itself is not safe. It has gotten so bad, that loans are being taken out just to fortify the North and you expect the North to be happy?

As they say in the south, boys are not smiling.... what is needed is a true Northern President from the NC or even NE that will stand up to the corrupt influences in the south that want to derail the President and tell them "no." We need a true Northern President who will be alert, alive, and sensitive to the needs of the North, putting security first and not the pockets of greedy southern politicians who only care about their foreign accounts.

2023 will give us such a President. It would be wise for APC to understand this now, before PDP fields such a candidate and the rest will be history. The GDP of Lagos is up 43.6% over the last 6 years while the economy of Kano and Kaduna have stagnated. The south has gained immensely it is time for the North to have a chance.

So let them come up with an electoral bill that's good. What a fraud Bubu is!

Nigeria has no region. Nw,NENC,SS SW,SE are unconstitutional!

Deadlytruth:
Then you have finally opened up that you don't really know what what differentiates regionalism (i.e. in the context of federalism) from Unitary system.
Federalism is not the mere existence of subnational units but it is about the degree to which they have autonomy. UK has subnational units but it is like a confederacy because England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland enjoy very large autonomy. But within England, for example, the subnational units don't enjoy much autonomy hence it is a unitary system.
In Nigeria currently, we have regions namely NE, NW, NC, SE, SW and SS in existence but does that automatically translate to us practicing regionalism in Nigeria currently? Capital NO! So it is very possible to have regions or a semblance of regions in existence and yet not practise regionalism. Such was the case with Ironsi. He first broke down the regions to provinces, and on a second thought regrouped the provinces but not back to regions because he actually never wanted the regions to be exactly as they were before. He found the forner regions too powerful and he didn't like it so he regrouped the his provinces into groups of provinces so that they would still look like regions in appearance even though he had stripped them of their powers. That was nothing but divide and rule tactics. Ironsi was just a clever manipulator. If he knew he would later regroup the provinces to coincide with the boundaries of the regions to feign the existence of regions, then why did he ever break the regions to provinces in the first instance?
Please answer this question in bold.


What Ironsi did was to weaken the regions by reducing them to provinces which he made totally powerless by not creating any leadership office for the individual provinces but appointing a general ruler over them. Then why create the provinces? It is like not allowing the present 774 LGAs have chairmen but just appointing a general head for them in their state capitals. Does that make any sense in true federalism?

We're the premiers reporting to Balewa when the regions were still actually regions?
It is like asking the present governors in the NW geopolitical region to all vacate their seats and then appointing a sole administrator for all of them with his office in Kaduna and then order that sole administrator to always take instructions from Buhari before he does anything about governance of the NW. Is that how federalism or regionalism works?
Iron's also gave order that all civil servants had become national civil servants meaning that the civil servants previously collecting taxes, generating revenues and remitting it to their regional premiers were now to remit such revenues to the national government at the center hence the groups of provinces (fake regions) no longer in charge of their revenue sources thus the killing of resource control. Is that regionalism in practice?

The mere fact that the boundaries of the groups of provinces still coincided with those of the former regions doesn't still cut it.
We all know that when taken together, the present boundaries of Edo and Delta States coincide exactly with the boundaries of the defunct Bendel State but does that mean that Bendel State is still in existence right now and still being governed as one entity? A big NO. So forget about this theory of boundary coincidence. It makes no meaning at all.

So Canada with provinces(regions), does each region have their own embassies in other countries? The United States individual states that have their own constitution and Supreme Court, do they have their own embassies? It was not a standard thing Awolowo did.

christistruth01:
What happened to the Western Region's UK Embassy on Great Portland St in London after Gen Ironsi's Unification decree

Didn't it have to be Closed down because of Ironsi's decree and their building taken over by the Federal Government later

An Embassy which had been deliberately set up by Awolowo himself on behalf of his People
that was completely responsible for looking after the Welfare of Western Region Scholarship Students in the UK and bringing new Economic Oppotunities and Advances to the Region

So you believe that someone can change Nigeria political and economic structure in 6 months such that what he did cannot be reversed?

Deadlytruth:
You clearly read where your brother Ironsi refered to the regions as former regions and added that Nigeria ceased to become a federation yet you are still playing the ostrich with Afonja self delusion.
You people are simply pathetic!

He actually rigged to make sure pdp does not get more than 48%. PDP would have won actually

huptin:
Those canvassing for Muslim-Muslim ticket should ask Buhari, what is experience was in 2003, 2007 and 2011. He kept losing back to back all because he was tagged a jihadist by PDP.

A Yoruba Muslim contesting against a Northern Muslim will divide the Northern votes into at best 60/40

The whole of South East and South South will be against it

Southwest and Middle belt votes will be totally divided, if you aren't so close to South West Christians you would never understand how fanatical they could be with their religion but a Yoruba man is very adept at telling you A and voting B...singing Tinubu's praise on normal days but voting against him on election Day

In 2019 Atiku/Obi got 48% of Lagos Votes despite the state being Tinubu's strong hold and with Osinbajo who is a Christian on the ballot ..those 48% are not only Igbos the truth is even the Yorubas didn't massively vote for Tinubu as anticipated, if he tries Muslim Muslim stuff in 2023, He won't even win Lagos talk more of the Southwest.

No way for Tinubu to Aso rock, it is totally impossible.

Let them try it and see the limit of the foolishness.

Zandena:
This has been my standpoint ever since the idea of muslim-Muslim ticket pop up, APC has been tagged by Ibos as Muslim party and even with an Ibo presidential candidate, the party would fail woefully in the north and yet in the south east/south, already theirvotes can be cancelled by those from kano, katsina, Kaduna and niger. Therefore the only easy way for APC to retain power even with Atiku as PDP flagbearer is through Muslim-Muslim tickets .
Heaven will not fall!

Are you new here? Will the North accept a Christian-Christian ticket? Una think say una wise!

NewsForYou:
I don’t understand how religious should determine who should be a president or Vice President

Clark was among the people that betrayed GEJ. Make e go sidon!

How much will Buhu handover to the next govt?

Marry a woman you're sexually attracted to and who's also sexually attracted to you and active. Forget what these single guys are saying. There are women out there with the qualities of your current gf that you'll be sexually attracted to. There's a reason it's been bothering you!

phranco:
I am in a relationship with a girl I'm planning to get married to. I love her and we vibe together and play most times. From my own assessment, she is good, down to earth, knows how to cook, humble, respectful, and she is also very beautiful naturally, infact she passed 70% quality of the kind of woman I want in my life.

The problem is that I'm not attracted to her sexually. She has a small body, and doesn't have nyash or should I say small nyash (sorry for the offensive word). I'm not aroused if I'm with her. I can manage to have sex with her just once, even if she will stay five days with me, and I know this gives her concern.

I like ladies with backside, height and chubby. but the ones I have come across doesn't even measure up to this my girl in character.

Does sex Matter so much in marriage? Cos I'm afraid I may cheat on her or get sexual satisfaction outside our marriage. I'm just confused right now.

Banging 7 wives na small work?