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Obaseki because he answered the questions asked unlike Iyamu attacking but never had enough time to respond to his questions

But why can't the rich people vote for themselves?

Beverlyjean:
Once u are from a rich home, u are automatically hated... cos they hate that they can't live the life the rich ones are living

Stimulus they claimed has been spent already? OP is sleeping on a bicycle!

You seemd Ok with other corrupt elements like Tinubu and Ganduje but not ok with Atiku even when the formers were caught in acts of corruption on camera?

seunmsg:
If you like entrust your life savings with Atiku, I will not. He’s a rogue and the worst among Nigeria’s corrupt elites.

But do you know that inspite of the terrorism of the North they are still favorite to win the presidency? How come their terrorism has not impacted their chances? What about the fact that they were 95% the coupists in Nigeria history?

ModestGal:
How other Nigerian treat Igbo? How now? Only God knows where it emaciated from that Igbo are only intrested in fraud. I want to believe there was an era that many Igbos were into frauds,and rituals and that is what those elderly people still think today. This could be as a result of the war and people had to survive
Its just like this era of Yahoo boys, now imagine it was in old times and peculiar to majorly a tribe, that tribe would have that as a stigma forever. But now, there's civilization and behaviours can hardly be sole to a tribe.

It's just like this era, where we have bokoharam, it would be a stigma for Muslims till another era even if terrorism has shifted away from Muslims. But Igbos too can be very bitter, I think Igbos still suffer psychologically from the effect of the war.

I just wish they grant you your Biafra so at least we can hear word again, and we would see how you will become small London. No be Africans again? Another corrupt fool will emanate as your president

You make it seem like SS is a tribe

computer0810:
we are talking about ppl knowing where dey came from and belong but was wrongly mapped into a north central state demanding exception and u r talking about claiming what is not urs, u r claiming SS when d ppl are rejecting u, is it too much for ur understanding

They see how other Nigerians treat Igbos so they do not wanna be treated same way hence their denial. If you watch the elites of these Igbo groups outside SE, they identify as Igbos because Nigeria treats the Elites differently. Havent you seen Amaechi, Okonjo Iweala, Okowa insists on being Igbos?

ModestGal:
Who is against Biafra, I have never been against Biafra, but one of you mentioned that the way some people felt bla bla, difference is that those people you want to in cooperate into your country hates you. I have a friend in NYSC, the boy hates Igbo like mad, and I would be calling him Igbo because you guys look alike. Everywhere Yoruba people are, they have never denounced being a Yoruba.

I'm dont think those people are truly Igbos, because if they are, they would want to associate themselves with their roots naturally. Or is it that Igbos are very wicked ? I'm still trying to understand

You have gone back to your default mode of being against Biafra. Same way you feel indigenous Yorubas outside SW should be incorporated into SW but feel indigenous Igbos outside SE shouldn't be incorporated. You will start throwing up double standards how yours is different. It is this equity and justice that Nigeria lacks as a whole that has been the bane of her existence

ModestGal:
Really, I don't know who is detaining you people, you refused to go because you want to force the oil producing states to join you, and Nigeria said they don't want. Maybe you should restrategize.

So you agree that Biafra would have gone far? In other words you agree Nigeria is holding the Igbo man down so why are you mad when they wanna be free to attain greater heights?

SmartPolician:
This is quite different.

The Igbos lost the Biafran war, which explains why the Igbo-speaking people in Rivers and Delta have refused to align with their brothers in the South East.

If the reverse had been the case, they would have been begging to join the country because Biafra would have gone far.

Besides, Nigeria would be treating them as slaves just as they do now (explore and tap your oils and pay you peanuts in compensation).

Victory has many friends. On the other hand, defeat has numerous enemies.

You can go with the North when the country split, nobody cares!
Just know that you've got it coming!

DCatt:
Did Jonathan take the entire south along?

We voted Jonathan in 2011 but he paid us back with disrespect. Jonathan did not only marginalize Yoruba, he said Igbos were the backbone of his administration, so we thought he didn't need us that much but still got some Yoruba votes anyway. Come on! Yoruba are stupidd but not that stupidd! We gave our votes where we can at least get something for it.

The confab was a waste of time and money. They took most important thing like secession off the table and didn't address resource control. The only thing you asked for then was additional states. There was nothing in it for Yoruba, we didn't get regional govt we asked for.

You will soon find out that you didn't just throw the baby with bath water alone but you threw yourselves in the gutter in addition. No president is coming from the "easterner" it's Yoruba's turn to produce the president.

Tinubu had an agreement with the north to support the Yoruba after Buhari and nothing can change that even if y'all kill Tinubu, Fashola or Oshibajo will take it, it's Yoruba's turn.

Aside the agreement between Tinubu and Buhari let me tell you why Fulani and Hausa will support Yoruba over "easterner," did you remember an audio interview of one alhaji and Kunle, where the Alhaji said the north is ready to let the Niger delta go and drink their oil and how the north will stay with Yoruba? Just imagine if they could not really mind releasing Niger delta that has oil when it comes to it, what need do they have for you?

The north knows that Yoruba is a must have on their side compared to any other region and will do anything to appease us. If Yoruba make half the noise you make on secession we will get what we want. But your cry for secession is not being taken seriously because nobody go kuku miss you. If the ground shifts today and add your region to central Africa, no one would notice in Yorubaland if we don't listen to the news and that's how irrelevant you are to Yorubaland. But if anything happens to Yorubaland, Nigeria is finished, now that's the measure of power and what the north will consider when thinking about the side they want to be come 2023!

Why won't he mention you? You have been defending the incompetence of Bubu and his skewed anti-corruption war so come and defend this one.
When you have no response you start arguing about being mentioned.

helinues:
This guy, have some shame and grow up like a man..

Stop mentioning me... Is that too hard for you?

Have I even ever mentioned you before self?

It is not that I am from Bayelsa nor any part of SS states.. So what's my business with this jargons

This guy, respect yourself..

Make your threads/comments and leave me out of it pls...

You wouldn't want me to report you to mods for trolling and provocation....

Last warning....

Muric is looking like the media wing of ISWAP

LegendHero DCatt

The entire South should have supported GEJ in 2015 especially because of the implementation of the CONFAB to ensure a restructured Nigeria. Tinubu and his cohorts ruined it in 2015 and that triggered another era of sabotage that will probably last 20yrs or more. The next president will be a Northerner or Easterner. You guys threw away the baby with the bath water in 2015 and you have to live by the consequence!

You won the fight in 2015 but lost the war to have a restructured Nigeria. You've got it coming!

True because the Igbos are willing to dismantle it, just one of the tripod is needed. Either Yorubas or Hausas

Skynet45:
The hausas fear yorubas they know we have the power to dismantle this country

Trust the North to kill themselves! Rubbish!

Arrewa:
you will get what you are looking for.

Trust the north...

The only reason Yorubas now love Tinubu is because they perceive that Igbos dislike him. If Igbos begin to dislike Fayose or Obj, you will see how their love for these 2 will resurrect.
What has Tinubu done for Lagos? Absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things. I lived in Lagos for 6yrs and I dislike the experience

BraggaJ:
@oluwatosink: There are three groups of people that hate Tinubu.

Group 1: Those in the opposition, especially PDP. Which is understandable because of his role in ousting their party from the centre. Those that lost political patronage will always hate Tinubu, that's just the nature of politics. They will always twist his intentions and try to make him look bad.

Group 2: Buhari is the second major reason Tinubu is hated by some Nigerians. This set of Nigerians have come to see Tinubu as an extension of Buhari's government because he was the one that packaged Buhari to them for votes. So they project his failures and shortcomings on Tinubu. They don't even care that Tinubu has no say in Buhari's policies.

Group 3: Igbos are the third group of Tinubu haters, and probably the worst of them. They have never liked any Yoruba political leader that they see as a threat to igbo political ambitions at the federal level. This is despite the fact that Tinubu has uplifted and empowered several igbos in Lagos, and influenced their appointment at the federal level. Historically igbos only support weak Yoruba leaders while loathing the strong and politically assertive ones, e.g Awolowo, Abiola, and lately Tinubu.

So there you have it.

Bubu doing what he knows how to do best...distracting Nigerians from the fuel and electricity hikes

fulanimafia, arewa, simplyleo

Your support for Tinubu is because he is loyal to Bubu, nothing more!
Both of them are r*gues

So if you say supreme court judgement is purchased does that makes the judgement invalid? Pls I dont like this back and forth on the supreme court.
Running a country is not difficult for a man who has capacity, capability and above all the integrity and patriotism to treat every Nigerian equally. You will only fail when you try to run an unfair system

Intrepid01:
No it is not wrong in a country where judgement goes to the highest bidder. We all know he purchased it leave sentiments out of it. On what basis are you supporting those candidates?

1. Peter Obi the pathological Russian liar, he’s only second to Donald Trump when it comes to lying. Even Willie Obiano came out with facts to prove that he was lying about the imaginary fund he said he left at Anambra.

2. Umahi, pls show me facts to justify your support for him.

3. Moghalu: you see the mistake we make is thinking governance is an easy thing. What experience does he have to lead a country. I laugh at people like Moghalu, Sowore and even the other motivational talker, can’t remember his name now, who thinks Governance is beans....

You see we all have to understand that we shouldn’t entrust our present and future in the hands of people who have nothing to show that they are capable. Look at what we are currently going through for allowing Buhari, I keep asking myself, if I used to call Jonathan clueless, what exactly will I call Buhari, I mean I’m short of words to qualify a misfit.

You always call Trump who is not Nigeria's president. Americans are happy with Trump and you'll see in the forthcoming election.

helinues:
Politicians will always disappoint just as the Trump is currently doing in USA...

I only countered your claim that he is an exconvict even when the supreme court has squashed it shockingly but it's still a fact it has been squashed and we need to respect that. You assertion that I want to market Kalu is false as he will be a disaster if given presidency. He failed in Abia so why will i send a failure to the national stage? If I'm to nominate a candidate from the East it will either be Obi or Umahi or Moghalu.
The rest like OUK, Okorocha, Ngige are jokers.
But my point is it is wrong of you to refer to Kalu as exconvict despite supreme court judgement

Intrepid01:
Lol... I laugh at your trial at putting many things in to one comment. I’ll rather ignore the insults. We are not here talking about the best course of action to take about a country that is not working, that is a different discussion entirely and does not in anyway justify your initial position that led to this discussion between you and I. The discussion between you and I has to do with your trial at selling an unmarketable product like OUK.
I mean it is a dead on arrival mission, the more reason nobody is taking him seriously even in APC. If he likes let him continue to tour the length and breadth of this country between now and 2022 , he won’t even be considered for a V.P slot let alone of a Prexy candidate. Can’t you see no one in APC cares about his tours? But all of them are worried about another nigga sitting in bourdillon who is even yet to make a sentence on his 2023 ambition. Pls don’t get me wrong o, I can never root for anyone of them, they are all robbers and enemies of the masses. But even amongst them, there are senior members and junior members, OUK in the scheme of things in APC today is a small fry, truth be told!

I said you're emotional, not fit for political arguments. You know how the court works, you accused the supreme court of your land of being bribed but when we say Nigeria is not working, let's restructure or break it, you disagree. If you agree that the supreme court can be bought, what hope do you have in Nigeria?
Put sentiments aside and take a logical stand. By the way I agree with you that the supreme court is compromised!

Intrepid01:
Yes of course I know how the court hierarchy works, the eventual judgement always go to the highest bidder. Nonsense....no matter how hard you try, a pig will forever be a pig!

But you were answering him until a particular question you knew was the truth and you couldn't answer.

Lamasta:
Nothing emotional there he should stick to the topic and not digress

Let's not get emotional. Obj was granted presidential pardon, internet is in your fingertips bro, confirm it. I dont want OUK to be president because he failed as governor however if the supreme court has overturned his conviction as a mistake, why are you holding onto it? Dont you know how the court hierarchy works?

Intrepid01:
1. I am not aware there was anything like a pardon before he contested, I’ll need more proof before I can speak on that.

2. It is disheartening that we are here trying to rationalize the candidacy of a widely known corrupt man who has even been convicted by the court. It doesn’t make sense. Even as bad as Nigeria is, I promise him and all you his propagandist the only election he’ll win is in his state or SE.

Igbos are unlikable yet you guys are insisting on one-Nigeria, is that not confusion?

Realerreal:
Kadiri spoke the truth and pointed out both the strengths and what people hate about the igbos in Nigeria, even before Biafra matter stArted which made people hate igbos even more.
The trouble that ensued after Atiku picked Peter Obi from the igbos was a very shameful thing and unknown to them taught other politicians a lesson. Even Atiku will never pick an Igbo man again you be vice. Watch he will go with south west or south south.

The man mentioned his wife is igbo to tell you he has close relationships with them and have studied their ways of doing things.
For your wife to be igbo and for you to have such bitter feelings towards them tells you how unlikable the igbos truly are.
Even as house girls and boys, igbos are treacherous jealous creatures.
Nigerians will never vote an Igbo person as president.

So why was a presidential pardon necessary to contest? Is a lower court superior to the judgement of the supreme court?

Intrepid01:
The ignorant one here is you! You’re trying so hard to compare a military trial concocted by a dictatorial military Govt with a legally convicted case of OUK in a court of jurisprudence ....you’ll need anoda life including the one you currently have to make a point with any sensible person. I know in many years to come your lots would have repeated the lie so many times to make it appear like it is the truth.

You went emotional when you couldn't answer his question directly

Lamasta:
Oga stop beating round the bush we are talking of Igbo presidency not South West we have built bridges in the past that's why we are fully involve now.

It came up them during the speakership election but was waived

isthatso:
I just realized Gbaja is an American citizen. Technically speaking, he should not be speaker as his American citizenship was acquired.

https://www.pulse.ng/news/local/lawan-gbajabiamila-may-lose-seats-over-dual-citizenship/1npp94t

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O boy, even with internet you're still ignorant? Why did Abdulsalami's govt gazette a presidential pardon to enable him contest? Obj was indicted by a military tribunal for coup!To enable him contest, he was pardoned!

Intrepid01:
Lol...you’re so poor trying to make a point.
OBJ was imprisoned by a world renowned military dictator he wasn’t convicted of corruption. You can ask your elders who were adults at the time for further explanations, maybe they’ll tell you the difference between “detention” and “imprisonment”.

What about Gbajabiamila?
Is British citizenship acquired by being born in Britain? Are you sure about this cos from what I know this is not the case

isthatso:
The problem with you people is ignorance.

Bukola was born in England so he was born with British citizenship, he had no choice in the matter, he did not voluntarily acquire citizenship of another country, he did not swear allegiance to Britain. Ngozi deliberately chose to become an American citizen and in doing so she swore allegiance to America. It is part of the process.

It is there in sections 66,107,137 and 182 of the constitution.


Section 66 provides for disqualification from seeking election into the National Assembly (House of Representatives and Senate); Section 107 provides for similar situations in for the House of Assembly; Section 137 provides for the President and Section 182 provides for the Governors. In all cases it is the 1st item in the list of things that disqualify a candidate.

For example, Section 107 provide thus:

(1) No person shall be qualified for election to a House of Assembly if –

(a). Subject to the provisions of Section 28 of this Constitution, he has voluntarily acquired the citizenship of a country other than Nigeria or, except in such cases as may be prescribed by the National Assembly, has made a declaration of allegiance to such a country;

The process for voloutary acquisition of US citizenship requires swearing of allegiance.

The difference between Saraki and Ngozi is the word “voluntary”.

She cant even become a minister again according to section 144. (5) which states

"No person shall be appointed as a Minister of the Government of the Federation unless he is qualified for election as a member of the House of Representatives."

Basically, you people are carrying fight for someone who has turned her back on Nigeria.....Quite frankly, i dont blame her.

Tinubu delivered all of SW? With less than 600k votes margin in 2015 and less than 300k in 2019? You well so?

DEROX:
Yes he will force them to vote buhari whom they hate since 1999.Buhari took okadigbo as vice they rejected him twice so na kalu go deliver SE.Why do you think buhari called them 5% that was unable to stop him. Tinubu delivered all the SW hence wailers even blame us calling us afonja for bringing buhari on them.