Farki:


The days are named after Norse and Roman gods, the planets are named after Roman gods, people today still bear the names of Roman and Greek gods.

China and the Arab world doesn't follow the western calendar format.

Seems more like the superiority of Roman culture and influence over Europe and the places it colonised.

You mean in Saudi Arabia and China they are not in The Year of the Lord 2020?

bintalabi:


Lol your illustration is funny but Nigeria is not organized and has been designed to be a failed state but igbos aren't helping matters

Most Yorubas don't like Tinubu until igbos start hauling insults on him.

With Tinubu we might have had a United south, he gave igbos appointments, he gave them key positions in his administration as Lagos State governor, he gave them the good will to contest elections in Yoruba land, igbos turn around and said he gave them appointments because there were no capable Yorubas, they told him Lagos is no Man's land, the evidences are there in the early days of Nairaland before tsunami

Come 2011 we supported Gej and even clamour for him to take over while yaradua was on sick bed, ibos connive with Gej and made it look like we were not part of the project and Gej marginalized the SW.

This is the time ibos should support anybody from SW to have our trust again and send a strong signal to the north that we have each other's back

You didn't answer my question. You stylishly avoided it.

On the flip side, maybe you can support the Igbo's in 2023. Perhaps it might make them stop "hating". Support them for once in the entire political history of the nation. How's that?

Okay O. You and I know our discussions here will change nothing. We are just using it to pass time. The politicians have drawn their swords. Nothing is stopping them. If I talk from now till tomorrow, Tinubu will do his best to run, Atiku will do his best to run. They are running not because they love you or me, they are running for themselves. Let them run, and may the best strategist win.

But I can assure you that on that election day, if a northerner and Tinubu or any Swesterner is on the ballot, the entire PDP states are giving their votes to the northerner 95%. Tinubu would have to win the elections by getting the north to support him and leave their own. Is that possible? In life anything can happen. The earlier he starts working on that the better for him. But if he is expecting to have an easy ride to the presidency by getting the PDP to give their ticket to an Igbo man, he should wake up quickly, he's dreaming.

Igbo presidency of 2023 can only be given on a platter, it can't be contested for. Would it be given on a platter? Of course it won't. So? Igbo presidency 2023 is a dead cause.

anonimi:



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History and the future is dated around the life of just one. No be accident. Its a show of power and superiority.

Jesus is Lord.

Emeritus001:
Can racism stoop?.. I think NO!!!. It is deeply rooted everywhere in everyone.

Racism will stop when hate stops. When? Never.

Racism is a product of hate, and hate is a product of difference. Hate can only be taken away by the action of God in man through Christ who tells us that there is no difference between Mr A and Mrs B for all are children of God. Will every body follow Christ? No.

We are back to square one: racism isn't going to end.

bintalabi:


I bet it you don't live in the se or lived lived most part of your life outside the se hence this sophisticated response, but bro get back to the drawing board to re strategize

I've lived my life equally in the SW and SE and so have a lot of igbos. My position is from a standpoint of critical reasoning, sincerity and fairness.

Beyond all these comments however, the Nigerian project as it stands today is a completely failed project. As such, regardless of wherever the president comes from, it will only favor a few people. The political class in Nigeria requires a majority of the Nigerian populace to remain in poverty to enable them remain in leadership once they have spread some money around.

In all sincerity, i really don't care about Igbo presidency because i know it guarantees nothing for my children and their own. It guarantees noting for the future. The present governor of my state is from my backyard. He has done nothing for my people and can do nothing. The igbo man that will become president tomorrow will not turn igboland to Dubai. He will do noting for the igbos aswell other than enriching a few people, and i'm not positioned or interested in being part of them. If you know how systemically rotten this country is at the moment, you will not discuss politics, you would only be interested on how this country can be broken into pieces and rebuilt.

I am only discussing this Tinubu issue because i am particular about Yoruba's calling igbo haters cos some igbos are saying they would gladly hand over a chance to run for president to a northerner to ensure that the Yoruba candidate is defeated. Why? because they believe the Yoruba's should be fair enough to say its the turn of the Igbos.

Just imagine you work in an office and there are 3 of you in a team (visualize it o). Oversees training come up every other 8 years. The first time it comes Mr A goes for the training while Mr B and C support. The next time it comes up, Mr B goes while Mr A and C support. Midway into the training, Mr A teams up with a few other guys in another team, saying Mr B hasn't sent anything since he went on that trip. Mr B is recalled, and a guy from another team is sent on the training taking Mr A with him as an assistant. They aren't back from the trip yet o but another training is coming up and Mr C says well "this should naturally be my turn". Mr B concurs. But Mr A, who is still on an oversees trip with his new found friend from the other team is saying "No o, when i come back from this one, I will be representing our team again on the next one". Mr C says "No o. How can you do that?" Mr A says " I will do it because I am connected enough to do it as far as this organization is concerned. You don't know how to play your game. You are a bad player. You burn bridges. Go and learn how to play the game in this organization and maybe then you can go". Mr C looks at his position and says "truthfully, as it stands this man is more connected than i am in this organization, I don't stand a chance against him. But he is being unfair to me. I supported him wholeheartedly when it was his turn. So rather than letting him go, i would lend my support to guys in the other team. let their man go again". And Mr A starts to call Mr C a hater, a man with a PHD syndrome, never do well, always wishing people evil, etc, etc.

Abeg Judge this matter with every sense of sincerity: If Mr C na your pikin wetin you go advice am? And who among this 3 is being unfair?

bintalabi:


Is there at any point in time SE support the SW in any cause? Your brothers pitch tent with anybody fighting us, build the bridge now by supporting us so that we can turn around and do same

Obasanjo is from the North i suppose?

Bar1941:
Something must be wrong somewhere, we need to get the government's version of the story as well.

Whichever the case may be, am sure the government will rebuild the church in a bigger form, we have wasteful people in the arms of affairs that act before reasonning, they will realise their foolishness and do the needful.

You are experienced. Gburu is even worse. If the pastor is able to make sufficient noise and lead his members on a protest for 3 consecutive days within enugu metropolis, getting some other pastors of a few other churches to join him in solidarity, Gburu will give him twice the amount the value of the church and its equipments. Thats how "thoughtful" he can be.

astonished:


Igbo problem with Yoruba started during Jonathan, Yoruba were shock by their attitude and hatred, and Igbo follow it up with Nnamdi Kanu attack & insult.

most of Yoruba that hate Tinubu so much have to support him, Yoruba are very detribalize until Igbo are showing there true colour.

You people always think it's Tinubu or his political party that brainwashed Yoruba to hate Igbo, how many follower did Tinubu have out of millions of Yoruba worldwide.

millions of Yoruba who did not belong any political party not Tinubu puppet, but has being watching political power play in this country, discovered the kind of hatred Igbo have for the Yoruba during Jonathan, subsequent Kanu.

lots of us followed the politics play in this country, and before we think Igbo is our brother.

The Tinubu you people hated so much, integra Igbo in Lagos politic without them ask for it, he gave them several political position, very big position at that

I don't hate Tinubu. I think he's presently Nigeria's greatest politician.

What i hate is lack of fairness. Igbos have supported people from all tribes in their quest for power, but can't get the same in return. The yorubas say Obasanjo wasn't their choice that Falae was. How is that supposed to be the concern of the igbos who yoruba's choice is. We supported a Yoruba man; A man who was very brutal to the igbos during the civil war. We supported him even against the man who led us to war Ojukwu. We supported him against Chuba Okadigbo who was Buhari's running mate in 2003, and anybody dares to call the igbos tribalists. Igbo's go to distant lands and make their homes and livelihood there but are treated with disdain because they raise their heads high.

We have no explaining to give to anyone: we remain and will forever remain the most detribalized tribe in nigeria. Non even comes close. Go to the east and see the few yorubas living there. They are treated with utmost respect and courtesy. They won't relocate to their home states for anything.

There are many yorubas who are detribalized as well, but the present political class of yorubas, who unfortunately have the ears of many youths are highly tribalistic.

tribalmall:
I get the point you foolish souls are trying to make. So you Igbos believe n admit that without the help of the Yorubas who stand tall like kings before Igbos u can not accomplish the simple task of becoming the president ?

This is similar to how foolish Igbos also antagonise Yoruba to establish Oduduwa Republic so it can bring about Biafra ?

The same way Ojukwu wanted Awo to go to war which he did not only for Ojukwu to waste over 3 million foolish Igbos in the war ba ?

Well like Awo disappointed your forefathers you should know even if your father wail to death Yoruba will not be stepping down for Igbos so you can continue your wail of agony, relentless insult on the Yorubas, no one is moved.

Last last when Yorubas can't take it anyone the will chase you out of the land the way Ikwerre n the north did n just to be clear you still won't have Biafra. If you repeat the agidi of another civil war, you can bet your life this time around Igboland will be annihilated this time around. God is my witness.

Chairman, i'm not continuing with this discussion. Since its that easy to get the presidency go and hand it over to Tinubu.

AgainstIslam:
If this is true, then Tinubu must be a very powerful politician to influence ESHA matters from Lagos.


Nonsense!

It is the power of money. With billions of dollars you can even have some influence in Americas elections, not to talk of Nigeria with hungry politicians everywhere.

kolaaderin:
While you are pulling yoruba down, Igbo is going no where as all your effort to move forward as a region is channeled towards pulling down Yorubas. Just imagine the nonsense you wrote up there, instead of you trying to sell Igbo candidate to Nigerians, you are busy trying to deform your opponent.

It is most unfair for any major tribe in Nigeria to say that we are concentrated on pulling down other tribes.

Since the return to democracy, igbos have supported men from SW, SS and the core north, even against other igbos. And when it should ordinarily be the turn of the south east, the Yoruba's say No. And you expect the igbos not to play the spoilers?

Do you know the amount of pressure that would be upon the 2 major parties to field Igbo candidates if the SW openly declares that 2023 presidency belongs to the SE? Do you know what that would do for southern unity which is the most important thing at this point in time where the north is driving Nigeria to a permanent state of retrogression? I bet you don't know because you are only thinking of yourselves.

Sammy07:

Go through this https://www.nairaland.com/6046740/ondo-2020-pdp-seeks-mimikos.

When a politician tells you good morning, you would do well if you go outside and check properly. Its most likely going to be the hottest part of the afternoon approaching evening.

Topsic70:

You tried very well by spilling over 80% truths in ur comment up there - which is un-Ipoblike.
Perhaps u can take it to a 100% by telling us:
1) why, to paraphrase ur words, the whole Igbo nation has lost hope just because of ordinary one man- Tinubu?
2) why, to borrow ur words, 'igbos are hated across d nation'.
3) when will they ever have d balls to contest directly without HIDING behind another region.
4) why igbos always have issues wherever they sojourn. Just in 2018 alone:
**Togo attacked Nigerian traders
https://www.nairaland.com/5257040/igbo-nigerian-traders-attacked-togo

**Ghana attacked Nigerian traders
https://t.guardian.ng/news/ghanaians-attack-nigerian-traders-at-kumasi-market/
https://nairametrics.com/2019/11/12/again-ghanaian-traders-shut-nigerians-businesses/

**south Africa attacked Nigerian traders
https://www.nairaland.com/3637189/xenophobia-africans-attack-nigerian-businesses

what is dt thing in u dt makes peaceful coexistence with ur neighbours a hard thing?
What's dt odious thing in ur DNA dt breeds resentment in others?

Pls, say the truth!

Its very simply: We compete very hard wherever we go (we go to very distant lands) and try to make the best out of anything our hands find to do, making many do better than many of the locals. And we take pride in the integrity God has given every human being. As a result, most igbos are seen as proud and arrogant, but we only take pride in ourselves and believe we can achieve great things. The little Igbo child in the village with pauperized parents believes he can be great tomorrow, and if given the opportunity, would work diligently to achieve it. Some do, others don't. And in pursuit of survival and greatness he crosses paths, steps on toes, throws tantrums etc.

That's the reason for the hatred, nothing more.

As per your first question, please don't blow Tinubus trumpet so loud. The man might not think highly of himself as some of you think of him. If you must know, Tinubu is no longer as powerful as he once was when he held the SW firmly in his hands. Today, he only controls Lagos, Osun and a part of Ogun. He has more enemies amongst SW elites than anywhere else in Nigeria. He is the least of our problems in the SE.

An Igbo presidential candidate is just as weak before Tinubu as he is before any candidate from any other tribe in Nigeria at the moment.

In the present Nigerian political atmosphere, an Igbo man can only defeat another Igbo man. That's why those carrying Igbo 2023 presidency on their head are seeking ways to get APC to give the ticket to an Igbo man. With that, they can mount more pressure on PDP to do same.

nzube89:
hope you knew that ojukwu ruined for president of this country .go back and check how much vote he got and how geo political zones voted for him

He even lost in igboland.

Thastie:

Who are you?
You guys are so delusional. It's common knowledge that the PDP would give their ticket to a Northerner. And this time around, the SE would not even smell the VP ticket. It is certain it will be given to the SW, still a win win for us.

And what's your gain?

A SW VP in PDP for 2023? Are u kidding?

Whiteangel1234:
Igbso are very smart people and naturally wise we understand politics better than any region in Nigeria , we are straightforward in Politics and have foresight because we dont depend on politicians or Government for anything in life so no room for Political Hypocrites . We warned Nigerians twice about Buhari , we rejected him even with an Igbo VP . Today even Buahri home town Katsina is protesting against him .

Tinubu and South West 2023 political hope is hinged on Igbos in PDP getting the ticket while Tinubu get APC Presidential ticket and try to play a religious card to get majority of Northern Votes

but this plan will fail because if igbos in APC failed to get the Presidential ticket then we are ready to support PDP to field a Northern Candidate in 2023 against any APC South West Candidate and this will be the end of APC party it will die with Tinubu

If APC fail to field an Igbo man south East then Its best for PDP to Zone the presidential ticket to the North


If APC want to zone south it must be micro zones to the south East or just forget it let every tribe and region contest and let those with bigger population win

While I support your post 100%, I don't support the title. Nobody owns tomorrow; anything can happen. But all things being equal, Tinubu won't be president.

Jaapu:



Your region is too inconsequential to do that.

2023 is not too far.

nzube89:
guy leave that Edwin Clark stuff I have lived in Rivers State for years and done business a little in the north .I was accepted in the north more than Rivers State .do you know that up till now some parts of Rivers State hardly sell land to igbos,egbema omoku axis

Those are personal issues. Politically, a south southerner has no issues with an Igbo president.

nzube89:
I may agree with you partially bro but our type of politics is very bad . how can we regard a whole National party as Moslem party as if we own pdp . we create the hate bro by our actions and words .why are we hated by our brothers in Niger delta .there is something we are doing that is not right

How do you hand over the entire security architecture of a nation, as well as 80% of relevant agencies to the Islamic north and want to be seen as anything other than a moslem party?

You say the Niger Delta hates us? In politics, I disagree. They are the only region today that will easily and willingly vote for an Igbo man. Edwin Clark is already saying that 2023 should be for the igbos. Have you heard any Yoruba or Hausa leader say that?

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Chief na u talk that one. Politically, we are hated.

The only people in the Nigeria of today that won't have any issue with a core Igbo man being president are the SS region because they appreciate the support we gave their son Jonathan.

But we also supported Obasanjo in the same way and Yaradua as well. What did we get for it? Tinubu and Buhari have lied to their people that we are tribalistic and we hate everyone else.

But the records are there: politically igbo s are the most detribalized Nigerians.

OkutaNla:


Just hear your mumu talk. So you people admit that your past behaviour of burning bridges and casting aspersions at other tribes will count against your presidential aspiration. And that Yorubas actually have 'friends up North' while igbos don't? So instead you are waiting to be gifted the Presidency on a silver platter, or failing to achieve that you will resort to blackmailing those that have painstakingly built alliances and political coalitions over time and are willing to compete for the position, by voting another Northerner, abi? And una think say una wise You cannot reap where you did not sow.

As of today, we no get mouth politically, but Our time will come either in Nigeria or Biafra.
Relax.

In the meantime, let's play spoilers for those whose thought of not having 2023 is making the loose sleep.

Sammy07:


But Abiola won Tafa in the north
Tofa won Abiola in south
Good luck won Buhari in the North in 2011

What are you saying

That was the Nigeria of 30 years ago. Nigeria after buhari will never remain the same.

I doubt even if a fellow northerner will defeat atiku if PDP gives him the ticket. The man will beg his way to northern votes knowing its his last chance at an office he's been aspiring for almost 3 decades.

kingzizzy:


You think we Igbos are fools? We all know that the SW are hoping PDP will field an Igbo man so that when Tinubu flys the APC flag, you can get your friends up North to unite in your dislike of Igbos and get Tinubu in. How did you think we were going to let that happen?

They have no idea.

Dem think say we no get sense.

OkutaNla:
Igboman Op, when will you people quit this your Atiku-slavery and asslicking?? Haba, una no get shame? Why not sell an igboman that you think stands a chance against Tinubu instead of promoting Atiku? Or are you suggesting that no igboman is credible or worthy of flying PDP ticket?? One minute una dey shout Biafra, another minute una dey shout igbo Presidency, the next minute una dey 'Atikulate'. Ndigbo, Which way??

As a proud Igbo man, I can tell you for free that in Nigeria today, no Igbo man stands a chance against tinubu or any one from any other tribe.

The reason is simply because igbo's, while having very competent people for the job are hated across the nation.

It's wisdom to tell yourself the truth. That's why we encourage PDP to field a slightly detribalized northerner to send APC home if they make the mistake of fielding a south westerner.

sofiscatedmoron:
That innocent vehicles is not the cause of their problems

Since the taskforce staff must have absconded, its the only available way left for them to express their grievances. Nothing else would be useful.

Joshmodest:
Nigerians and curses go hand in hand ...no matter how enlightened they are they still indulge In this show of shame ...
Punch posted a false news about Osihmen 2 secs he involve thunder ..
Sound city vex Wizkid he involve Ogun ...
Children commit small offense their papa or mama don run curse ....
I saw a tweet where a British online mag totally insulted Dennis Suarez in the worse possible way - saying thieves camey to rob his house , but didn't steal anything cos there was nothing to steal ...
If you see the way he replied them professionally you'd he proud of him ... Nigerian for don run involve ayilala and Ogun !!

Funny enough both thunder and Ogun have not been able to do shit.

It just shows how destructive our minds become when we are faced with any form if opposition or resistance. I always marvel when people open their mouths and say those things especially "e no go better for you". Like seriously? How do you wish such evil on your fellow man?

Foolishbuhari:


I dey tell you. Sometimes I dey wonder wetin dey Enugu when I dey pay 800k for 3 bedroom flat.

The only thing when person dey gain here na the security and peace of mind for the main town when even those stupid efcc boys Wan collect from person with their senseless raids which they've stopped for now sha. Fools!

I'm sure that location where you pay 800k in Enugu is much better than Ojodu or Ogba. Try to rent a 3 bed in Ojodu or Ogba and let's see how much it costs.

In any case, price of cement in Lagos is the same , if not cheaper than price of cement in my village.

babajeje123:
This is wickedness of the highest order. Uber and bolt drivers couldn't work for months due to the pandemic, and now that things are getting normalised, the state government is coming with this BS. the most painful aspect of it is that the money they would raked in will be looted and not used for the masses. Lagos hasn't been bad as this Sanwo's tenure. The man is not in touch with the masses.

The man is an employee of Bola Tinubu. Tinubu is presently piling up cash for his 2023 ambition.

Don't expect any development from LASG until that project is done wuth.

Donedeal1:
Well thought out policy.

Excellent policy.

As it stands, you will need a 2017 vehicle worth at least 8m for the biz. I'm sure that won't be too difficult for a fresh graduate to afford. And for the guys using the 2005 - 2008 corrolas and camries, all they need do is trade-in their vehicles, add between 6 and 7 million which is extremely easy to get in Nigeria today and get back on the road

I just don't know if some of you have any humanity left in you.

amoduokoh:
Car requirement : 2017 and above

They want to end the business.

I hope they would also require regular cabs to be 2017 upwards.

LASG has gone completely nuts.

Zetty177x:
Very necessary...too much laxity in this area.. there's need for review

Kindly explain what your so called laxity has caused.

This is my lcda chairman o.