₦airaland Forum

Wolfbrother:
Anyone who actually believes she was a witch and was "Arrested" has severe autism Down's syndrom

I find your statement insultive to those who are autistic. Being autistic does not imply stupidity. In fact some of the brightest people the world have ever known were autistic to varying degrees.

drestoneokuta:
O boy, I served in ozoro oo, na na banana tree dem dey use flog witches, and dem dey fly anyhow for there. God help us

Stop telling lies. Have you seen a witch fly before?

sonofluc1fer:
buharifan@gmail.com

You be Buhari fan for real You have just lost a friend.

johnydon22:
if the world was a little dumber, astrology would still have been flourishing.

It is flourishing in our part of the world, just that we would rather not call it astrology. Pastors and prophets are our new generation astrologers and the religion of pentecostalism is how we practice astrology.
I guess the level of patronage by Nigerians is an indication of how dumb we are.

PastorAIO:
There is a first time for everything. I've just experienced my first ban on NL. Apparently I broke the rules in the following post below. Most likely the fellow I was discussing with was so shaken by being called out and exposed that he ran crying to the mods and they reacted hastily without actually reading the post.

This is what I think but I realise that I may be wrong and I would like to be corrected if so. Can anyone point out what is amiss in the post quoted below:



Thank you

Your post is a perfect summation of my opinion of him, I see nothing wrong with the way and manner you told him the truth about how stupìd he comes across with his unnecessary verbosity.

Gombs:

Why the smiley?

CAPSLOCKED:

HE SHOULD GETTING A BETTER JOB... LIKE REPRESENTING HIS VILLAGE IN THE ANNUAL GLOBAL IDIOCY COMPETITION.

The G.O is hardly an idiot, on the contrary I think he is a deviously clever man that preys on superstitious mentally weak people.

This is one of the most enlightening threads ever created on nairaland. Thank you SirJohn for your objective coverage of the Healing School.

rusher14:
When ignorance speaks it is very loud.

Can't you see this is about an old policy that has since been done away with?

Actually, the naira was freely floated under Jonathan' administration, it was Buhari that reintroduced currency subsidy.

brosci:
u talk dirty and i will have nothing to do with you. i will rather talk with people that have self respect like akannusi.

My friend, I understand that right now you feel hurt, which may explain the reason why you think that my talk is dirty. I can assure you that my talk is clean and true. Your reaction is quit typical of someone struggling with cognitive dissonance when the falsehood in their worldview encounters the brutal reality of truth.

Tkayhandsome:
If your husband curses you, your pastor can cancel it.
If your pastor curses you, his General Overseer can cancel it.
But if your general overseer curses you, only God can cancel it.

I no blame Daddy G.O Adeboye, na the idìots with zero independent thinking wey dey worship these useless Men of God I blame.
There must be something wrong with the average IQ of Nigerians for a significant percentage of our population to quake in fear whenever these charlatans in cloth make their useless threats to extort money from their members.

brosci:
u are funny. u said jesus was addresing the pharisees, so does that mean it was not apppicable to other jews. jesus taught in mount olive and sometimes to his disciple specificaly does that means what he said is only applicable to his disciples.
my friend since i pay my tithe does that mean i have a dead relationship with GOD? hell no. he still speaks to me clearly. i am a freeminded person if only u can prove it to me with new testament scriptures then i will stop paying tithe but all u have done so far is use harsh words (fraudsters, twistef, lie) which is not convincing. concerning hebrew we both talked about (levites and melchizedek) . both took tithes. one is dead according to the law while the other still liveth since it is not built under the law . according to heb. the latter is the priesthood of jesus

Is your pastor a levite that he should be demanding for tithes?

brosci:
U KEEP SAYING TWISTED SCRIPTURES. IS 1 COR 16 :2 TWISTED. IS MAT 23:23. TWISTED. U ARE ACTUALLY THE ONE TWISTING SCRIPTURES BY REFFERING TO MALACHI. ALL THE SCRIPTURE ABOVE U WERE AFRAID TO EXPLAIN IT IN TOTALITY BUT I DID IT FOR U ALREADY. DID JESUS CONDEMN TITHE OR NOT?

Why the capslock? Shouting a lie does not make it true.

DeanSim:
The North has a problem with their socio-culture.

Why must you kill a fellow being in the name
of religion.

The Prophet himself, while he was alive and preaching Islam, people use to stone him and commit all sort of atrocity and evil.


what did he do?

What was his practice & teaching?

He never attacks back.

No matter the circumstances that led to the insult, it shouldn't warrant anger to the extent of causing violence.

In fact, I learnt that it's even sinful or not
advisable to be arguing unnecessarily about religion.

We've better things to deal with in all nation and life.


With all sincerity, your elders have failed you.

What the young are doing, is believe to be propagated by their elders.


For your better tomorrow, the elders have to accept responsibility for all these socio-malice.

Educate your youngs one about the true culture of Islam.


And before you can educate, you've to humble yourself and be patience to seek knowledge.


Islam is truly a peaceful religion, only if people adopt it the true lifestyle.

But what we've in Nigeria, is still our traditional culture with a disguise with Islam or Christianity.

Nigeria has great work to do especially the North about the socio-cultural lifestyle because of it negative impacts are what we're feeling today.

Nobody will come to that Zamfara and live a life there because the society is not welcoming.

And if you feel, you can achieve development all alone, then that's the beginning of your ignoramus and disaster.

Some are destined for no development, they don't even seek development and they will always remain backward.

The part in bold is not completely true as it does not tell the whole story of how Muhammed dealt with those who opposed him.
The truth is that what you said about Muhammed happened when he was not yet powerful. With a very small army and relatively few followers, the guy was preaching peace. But when he became a conqueror in Medina, his preaching became more intollerant and vidictive. He even blessed a man that killed a poet he did not like.
So my friend, stop with this al taqiyya of painting Mohammed as a good man by telling us about his early life in Mecca, while your imams teach you guys about his later life in Medina that was vindictive.

jegz25:
why can't he respect other poeple's religion?...is he d only christian in d north?

Do you know that Catholics consider it blasphemous to to call their God Jesus Christ a mere prophet, yet muslims openly deny the divinity of Christ, equating him with other prophets of old and worst of all, Muhammed who the Catholics don't even recognise as a prophet.

Despite this insult to the Catholic God by muslims, I am yet to see a Catholic get provoked to the point of killing a muslim blasphemer. But in Pakistan, a christian woman is currently on death row for saying that Muhammed is a false prophet.

What you need to realise before you start carelessly throwing accusatory words around is that in matters concerning religion, one man's truth is another man's blasphemy.
So, where do we draw the line on what is offensive? Should catholics in brazil ban and kill muslims for denying the divinity of christ in the same way a christian can be killed in a muslim majority country like Pakistan for saying that Muhammed is a false prophet? Or we should all be mature enough to take any perceived insult on the chin, knowing that what we regard as truth is in itself an insult to other religions?

I heard that the circumstance surrounding the death of his first wife was kind of suspicious. Does anybody here know how she died?

Carter4luv:
if kenya pastors are not ready to stay frm all dis why den go enta d ministry dey expose demselves.

Because the ministry is lucrative.

charijee:
[color=#CD1076]Why are you lamenting, Op?

Don't you know how to get across to the Nigerian pastors?

Go pass the message to them [/color]

The Nigerian pastor knows fully well that he is a deceiver, his message is designed to entrap his unsuspecting victims through false hope the same way a child can be lured into gambling the errand money through the false promises of a money doubler. So reaching out to the Nigerian pastors will do nothing to change their wicked ways because their disposition is evil. This is why I think that the op is right in reaching out to the deceved in order to help them see through the deceit of the Nigerian pastor.

Alexandro15:
Is it okay to have pictures of your mom? Is God against making Images?

Do you know the image and likeness of Jesus?

kilo4sure:
Lol you are right, though sometimes l Wonder, since we have so many atheists in Nigeria like we see on Nairaland, and since they believe religion is anti science or limits potential, l would prefer if they begin to show us the way in Nigeria by becoming much more productive than the religious in Nigeria in all spheres of life, that is what Nigeria needs now and not just talk, talk or condemnation of religion. I say this because while in school, l knew a dedicated choir mistress in the medical department, she was quite excellent as a medical practitioner and in her department, even better than most of her non religious colleagues, it is obvious that her dedication to the work of God hardly prevented her from being the best at what she does. What about Michael Faraday? or the monk Gregor Mendel, these people had active religious lives but it never stopped them from utilizing their time in other ventures. Hope you get my drift? The most important thing is to use your time wisely(religious or non religious).

You appear to be focused on the proverbial tree instead of the forest. Society is made up of many people that are interconnected to each other such that the action of one person can affect the wellbeing of others not directly connected to that person.
Like the woman in your example, though she is a brilliant medical practioner, have you ever considered what she might have become if she had been nutured in a society that places a premium on education and ecourages children to develope their crtical thinking abilities?
Perhaps she might have been counted as one of those brilliant indivviduals taking the lead in advancing the boundaries of medical practices or any other field.

If looked from this perspective you will realise that even in her relative success the society may have failed her by not creating the space necessary for her to achieve her potential.

kilo4sure:
Nice one, although god/religion and the realm of reason are not mutually exclusive.

This I agree with and it it exactly the point that I have been driving at. But if we refrain from calling out the idìocy and hypocrisy of of holding such ridiculous beliefs because the people holding them identify as christians, then we would be helping the atheist who are quite comfortably and happy to point at the ridiculousness of having magical thinking.

It is idolatry because that is what it is, having reverence for an engraved image. Plus the fact that no one knows how christ looked like when on earth. And more importantly, that as christians we should think of christ as the resurrected life giving conquering spirit that he is, whom every knee must bow to.

The fact that he is a liar does not surprise me, afterall you cannot be a seccessful dupe without telling a few lies every now and then. What I find surprising is the number of people that believes such an obvious lie?

kilo4sure:
Would it then be by looking at it in just one country Nigeria? You said you are a Christian, so should l judge Christianity only by how you and your church practice it?

Since my view is not representative of the general christian population in Nigeria, it would be grossly inaccurate to judge christianity based on my view.
The op is about the majority of religious people in the country that have refused to engage their reasoning ability just because of religion.
Take for example, the average Nigerian will call anybody a liar that claims to have driven a car for hundreds of miles without fuel. But when Daddy G.o Adeboye and Pastor Chris told this same lie in front of a full church, their members forgot how to think and began shouting praises to God for the awesome miracle.
The average christian in the West would instantly say it cannot be true.

kilo4sure:
In other words, the problem is with Nigeria and not religion, or perhaps the way Nigerians practice religion.

True enough my friend. But then again, how do we judge a religion if not be looking at how it is practiced by its adherents?

kilo4sure:
Yes you are right but Nigerians believing in the miracle working God for football or Olympic games is irrelevant to our failure or success, that is my point. The op seem to have made it relevant. Brazil is a very religious country and some of these players like kaka depend on God for their success, did they fail? even in this Olympic games many individuals believe God is with them, and when interviewed would sing the praises of God, it is a usual thing in sports. Christians usually do this because of the book of proverbs that says ''commit all thy ways to the lord''(may not be the exact quote), but thesame book of Proverbs says ''seeth thou a man diligent in his work, he shall stand before kings not mere men". Christians are aware of both verses and are not to choose one totally at the expense of the other. This seems to be your point but it is different from that of the op. The op somehow wants to show a correlation between the religious and failure.

What is relevant is the extent to which such belief is held in the society. Here in Nigeria, public libraries are almost extinct, a relic of our colonial past. The few that remain are more or less museums with a catalog of books that was published no later than the mid 90's. Meanwhile, we have been investing huge sums as a society into building thousands of churches and mosques and stocking our bookshops with religious books as we continue to decimate our educational system.

But yes, you are correct. Brazil is a religious country, they haven't reached the level of religiosity that would make them stop investing in important things like sports and education. That is why they can embark on a project like this; a twenty billion naira science museum.

kilo4sure:
I understand your point but l still fail to see how this correlates with winning gold medals at the Olympics or are you saying Nigerians see the Olympic tournament as a spiritual battle? rather than preparing or working hard? Even the example you gave, shows that the religious even though they see things from a spiritual point of view knows what should be done, and would also agree with you on that.
The problem l have with the op is in connecting our religion to our Olympic woes, rather than blaming it on our lack of planning majorly due to bad governance and corruption.

Where the op is coming from will make sense to anyone that have heard Nigerian supporters at a sports event singing " He is a miracle working God."

I am a christian and I get what the op is saying about magical thinking and how it affects how we think and how we react as a society when faced with a problem.
The key point the op is making is that the solutions we come up with to a given problem depends to a large extent on how the problem is defined or perceived by us in the first place. So in a country like Nigeria where most people believe that the spiritual governs the physical we tend to find spiritual answers to every problem since the problem is spiritual by definition.

Take one common example, many of us pray fervently when embarking on a journey of say Lagos to Abuja by road. But when travelling a similar distance between two European cities we tend not to pray at all and when we do, not as fervently.
It is quite easy to see why the same person that begged God for journey mercies while in Nigeria won't even remember to ask God for journey mercy while travelly in a developed country. It is because we have come to dissociate bad roads, bad drivers and unroadworthy vehicles from why a road journey in Nigeria is filled with peril and associate wicked blood sucking spirits with their numerous witches and wizards human agents as the cause of accidents.
So instead of demanding for good roads and holding our government accountable for how our taxes are spent, we worry about not missing our tithe payment lest calamity befalls us.
Instead of insisting that drivers drive responsibly and obey trafic rules, we pray and ask for journy mercies.
Instead of making sure that the vehicle is roadworthy, we just simply cover it with the blood of Jesus.
Yet we wonder why we have more accidents on our roads compared to countries where they don't utter a word of prayer before travelling.

This is the kind of topic that should be on the front page as it concerns the welfare of a Nigerian in a foreign land instead of the trashy trash about big butt and birthdays that we see.

I guess the idìotic Saudi regime that banned kola-nuts is either too stupìd, or too ignorant to know that the caffeind in kola is enssentially the same as the caffeine in cocacola or coffee. Or perhaps they are just being racist towards Africans as they have always done. How else can you explain why taking caffeine the African way through kola nut is banned, but taking it the western way through a bottle of coke or a cup of coffee is allowed?

It is not the Arabs that I blame, it is the stupìd Nigerian man that spends badly needed dollars to visit a country where the word for a black man and a slave are synonyms.

yommyuk:
Read your bible

Do you mind pointing me to the Book, chapter and verse of the bible please?

Obedience to do what specifically?