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I have attended RCCG severally with a fuller beard and nothing happened. Someone should find the real story. I find this hard to believe.

This one is family matter. They should go deal with it internally.

iramure:
I prefer non.. both methods have ways of extorting members. Africans are beginning to realise religion is a scam. We need freedom from mental slavery.

You said this on another thread. No pastor uses physical force to make someone pay. Some pastors are false. Not all are false.

I prefer physical but in this time of COVID, I attend online. Both in my opinion are valid.

genkins:
Is there anyway I am teaching you without love? . That I said you are ignorant, is it a lie? That the Bible contains old and new testaments, does it make every thing in the Bible Christian? Do you stone your non virgin sisters to death if they are unmarried? Do you not eat fish without scales like catfish? Do you stone your stubborn children to death at the city gate? Are these not in the Bible? Are they not biblical?

You continue in your path of passive insults and presume that I am a heifer incapable of reading between lines. I will not argue with you on this. If you think the content of the Old Testament doesn't apply that is your shelenge. Qué Sera, Sera.

For me I am clear on it. The Old Testament is a valid part of the Bible. If we don't agree on this then there is no point in continuing discourse. There is no valid ground for agreement.

Tobechuckwu:
There were no Christian when Jesus walked d earth, but any of Jesus disciples criticized him.

U can't be in the light nd criticize light, it's not possible.
Darkness is d only thing that criticize light.

It is a two way relationship. Criticism is not a bad thing. Paul does this quite often in the New Testament when he attempts to redirect churches or people. The Bible does record Judas' criticism by the way.

It is our local culture that sees criticism as a challenge to authority. It is where we have done a fusion of Biblical culture with our local culture.

Read 1 Kings 13:11-25. For me those verses show what happens when this culture of not critiquing or challenging the direction of 'more senior elders' is applied.

genkins:
Why is it called old? Do you know that we now have a new testament? Do you know that Judaism is what is practiced in the old testament? Do you know that Christianity started after the death and resurrection of Christ? Why are Africans this ignorant? Do you know that the old testament is called the Torah. Do you know that as a Christian you only follow christ and no old testament prophets? Do you know that as a Christian, you are greater than all the old testament prophets combined?

The Christian Bible consists of the old and new Testament. All Bibles consist of the two. You talk of ignorance and yet you ignore Jesus's teachings of doing things in love.

Does your post look like you are in this discussion with love?

It is good that you speak of the Torah and Judaism. However note that this doesn't exempt the Old Testament from the Christian Bible. It is good that you continue studying.

genkins:
I can now see where your problem is coming from. Give me a Christian scripture, you went to the old testament.. Was there Christianity in the old testament? Sorry bro, you are Not a Christian yet.

I disagree. The old testament is part of Christian scriptures. That however is a topic for another thread.

Tobechuckwu:
I don't need to argue with you.
2 chronicles 20 Vs 20 nd Isi 44 Vs 26 are there for u see how God see his prophets nd pastors.

Ohh u don't know that God confirm d words of his servants nd perform d counsel of his messenger.

U better know d scripture for urself before queuing up with pple that don't read d scripture.

Good you are stating verses. This is 2 Chronicles 20 v 20

And they rose early in the morning, and went forth into the wilderness of Tekoa: and as they went forth, Jehoshaphat stood and said, Hear me, O Judah, and ye inhabitants of Jerusalem; Believe in the Lord your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper.

This is Isaiah 44 vs 26

Who confirms the word of His servant,
And performs the counsel of His messengers;
Who says to Jerusalem, ‘You shall be inhabited,’
To the cities of Judah, ‘You shall be built,’
And I will raise up her waste places

Could you expatiate on how the above back your points taking into account the background of the chapters?

Tobechuckwu:
I think if u actually a born again Christian, u will need to read what Bishop Oyedepo said with open mind.

Everything he said is in d scripture. U can't be in a ministry that has or is blessing u nd u are insulting or criticizing d pastor or the church.

U can't be a child of light nd keep criticizing d light.

If u are not okay with the ministry or u don't like the pastor why u can't u walk or go to another ministry that will minister to u in a better way.


The truth is that u can't be blessed in a ministry or under a pastor u criticize, this is d truth. Read A-Z in d Bible, this is what d scripture says

Do state the relevant scriptures. This one, someone will state they believe without scriptural proof.

We are all children of God i.e. those who have accepted God in their lives. However what does he think of when Paul spoke about correcting Peter and his fellow apostles in the Bible? Was that speaking against?

Cowbell521:
How old were you?

2009, Vanessa Blue comment, you can guess the age. Whether you are correct or not ... Qué Sera, Sera.

What is the point of asking this question? She is going to do what she has already determined to do. All she is seeking is a justifiable angle to execute it.

I am mute on this. Qué Sera, Sera

This guy needs to learn from Jay Z. I hope he is playing good financial defence. Life is full of celebs who spent like this and some years later we start hearing stories that touch the heart.

It feels good when spending. It feels better when chopping the fruits of one's investments.

Praise the Lord. Very necessary move.

If one reads between the lines, one gets the impression that the truth is being played with a lot.

Finquas:
This is simply hate speech.. DSS should arrest this man even though he's a fellow Yoruba man. I hate lies and hypocrisy

I agree. I am not sure if DSS has authority here but someone should be dealing with him.

Tomek09:
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Playing the tribal card by supporting evil. Because I called your people who are known Igbo haters that means I harbour hate on Yorubas too? I don't have such time because Igbos are the only people that treat everyone equally in Nigeria irrespective of who you are. This is not the first time a Yoruba is expressing unfounded hate and acrimony against Igbos. U mentioned about those that married Igbo ladies? Do you know Igbo men in Ibadan, Akure and Lagos that married Yoruba ladies against all odds? The thing is that you only view issues from a single story line without criss-crossing your perspective. There has never been a time an Igbo spoke ill against Yorubas. Go and verify and come back. I hate hypocrites.

Do we have a psychiatrist in the house? This man needs one. I repeat this year that organisation's plan of brewing hate amongst Yoruba and Igbos - I pray that it fails. United we stand, divided we fall.

I know people of both sexes who intermarried. Your focus is only on those who speak hate and it has twisted your heart. I pray again everyone like you that goes around seeking to stoke this fire of Igbo vs Yoruba instead of focusing on the idiots in both ethnicities that misyarn - I pray that your plans fail. Nigeria is not where it should be but your actions breed hate and further chaos playing into the hands of the evil politrickchans we have in this nation.

At a general level, what OP has done is suggest a financial plan. I have read people say that this means stinginess, it is not SMART, it means he is not a man, that he is a dictator. I disagree. I have my plan and I am sure most sensible men have their spreadsheet for those who are computer literate.

So it is definitely a RED CARD. OP suggested a plan! A budget is financial priority number one in a marriage. That would help you know what you are going to save, what you are going to spend and how you are going to face financial requests.

Once again it is a plan. An adult who is mature would either negotiate or tweak the plan with OP. An immature person would go and tell her friends and call her boyfriend or soon to be husband immature. The girl's response shows her level of maturity and thinking. Also there should be every hope that his and her salary would improve.

OP can invest time to discuss and see what scared her. No couple is perfect or matured.

Free advice: Use this opportunity to see if she is one of those who is uncomfortable discussing finances.

franchasng:
My candid advice to the Op and to all single guys who wish to marry and have a peaceful, loving and healthy marriage is this:



So long as you and your wife live in Nigeria, please remove that mentality of sharing family upkeep with your wife. Just work hard and pray to God to empower you financially enough to cater for your wife and family without relying on your wife's income.


The rate of divorce in western countries is too high compared to that in Nigeria and part of the reason is their practice of gender equality in almost everything.


Follow Bible teachings about marriage and you won't have issues.



From the Bible, read from the book of Genesis during creation of man, God didn't create man and woman the same day.


God first created everything that a man would need to live a worthy life and then He created man and put him in charge of everything he created on earth.


God Himself observed man and noticed that even though man had everything he needed materially, he was still lonely whenever he returns back to his abode after the days work, so God decided to create a helpmate and companion for the first man Adam.



So the first purpose of a woman in a man's life is companionship and not to help the man to create wealth or share family burdens or expenses. The woman is firstly there to keep you company emotionally. That's why men all over the world are ready to spend their last kobo to get a woman to make love to, it is nature at work not that women have more emotional control than men, it is nature that made men emotionally vulnerable than women such that a man melts at the sight of woman's naked body but most women will even get irritated at the sight of a man's naked body unless they are already emotionally attached to that man somehow.



Adam was rich and had everything he needed before God made him fall asleep and used his rib to make a woman for him and Adam saw Eve and cherished her because she was so beautiful to his delight.


So the first quality a man notices in a woman is her physical beauty before any other thing.



Follow Bible teachings and not man made civilized laws that failed in western countries.



Gender equality is a scam.


Man and woman can never be equal. Each gender have their God assigned role, play yours with joy and you will enjoy this life.



Me I am happy to be the sole provider in my marriage.


My wife works and earns well I guess but I have never needed her to bring a dime and it has never stopped me from expanding and living a happy life.


My wife one day asked me why I don't even bother about her job or career, like what she earns and whether she gets promoted. I told her, my dear, I don't think it's necessary but I know you get plenty money na and it's good for the family, at least I am sure you will invest a lot for your kids.


One thing I know is that, she never tells me about her relative needing any money, I only do Christmas for her dad once a year and on Easter and Father's day. And I am sure she do spend on them from her own income. Aside that, I take care of everything, including her personal shopping. Most times I fuel the car she uses to go to work. I do these things with joy. If she decides to stop working tomorrow, I won't pressure her. But I love the fact that she is working so she can be mentally fit and financially responsible cos I noticed housewives are usually dull and financially irresponsible.


So guys please remove your eyes from your wifes income. If things go bad financially for you which nobody should pray for, believe me, she will come through, forget what you read online, most ladies do help their husband's financially when he is down. Some are even the breadwinners of their family. So it's not as if all Nigerian ladies that got married depend solely on their husband. Some are breadwinners. Some share financial responsibility with their hubby willingly.



Not all our ladies are leeches abeg

Your wife is providing feedback that you don't seem to care about her career or how she is doing at work and you are here advising OP?

I disagree with your general conclusion. A marriage is a union at all levels. OP is most likely a detailed man who plans a lot. My wife initially used to vex but when I demonstrated a few things including what the plan would result in - she began singing a new song.

PS please go talk to your wife about her career. Understand what is happening at her place of work.

There is also nothing wrong with a woman deciding to be an housewife. That is immense sacrifice on the part of a woman. Housewife doesn't mean they don't have hustles. My mum sacrificed her time for us but was a teacher and entrepreneur at the side.

Tomek09:
My anger is seriously burning over this shameless idiot called Biodun Fotoyinbo. This shows how tribalistic an average Yoruba blood is irrespective of position or status in the society. From Oba of Lagos threats to Fashola deportation to miscreants setting Igbo dominated markets on fire in SouthWest to Afonjas on Nairaland and to Abiodun Fotonyinbo. All of you are born and chronic Igbo haters which makes Northerners saints when compared. Well, the hatred is welcome because it doesn't affect or change anything to Igbo progress. Umu ezi.

Go and tell whoever sent you to stoke Yoruba vs Igbo bad blood that they will fail. The highest rate of intertribal marriage in Nigeria is between Yoruba and Igbos. All this hate is in the mind of whoever is paying your lot to generate animosity. In 2022, I pray that organisation is exposed and destroyed.

Biodun talked pure rubbish. Oba talked rubbish. Yet you ignore the likes of Akinleye who married an Igbo wife. Get out of here with your tunnel vision hate. We reject your ilk with hate in their hearts.

Some comments

1. People still attend COZA?
2. Do not use this as an excuse to start bashing Yorubas. Focus on this pastor. He opened his mouth and misyarned badly. We are one in the eyes of GOD. It is clear we are not one in the eyes of this pastor.
3. People still dey attend COZA?

Animegirl:


You don't even know "woman's need", that's why you did that rubbish list. That 80k, isn't enough as a lady talkless of family. Unless you want her to look like an hag, in her husband's house.

Worst, you haven't even settled down yet, you're placing small responsibilities on her head. Be calming down na.

If you want something like this, better find another woman who is willing to contribute to the family with higher earnings.

She should go get a better job. The man is not there to pay for her wants. If 80k salary is insufficient for her to meet her needs / wants then that is her shelenge.

Politicians are all the same. Anyone who aligns with them is on their own. See this governor announcing when he would announce criminals. If you have criminals in your state deal with them. The announcement we want to see is when they are being arraigned to court.

Just read the thread. This is clearly a religious thread and yet some people will post to make insulting statements. Is this in line with Nairaland regulations?

Flyfly:
Useless bastard and he couldn't prophecy covid 19 coming or his own son's death.

This is classless. Disagreeing with the man is not a problem. Your post however says a lot about you.

NOETHNICITY:
15m Naira, and $27,000

God is good.

Erm so how much is left. What matters is what you keep ...

rentAcock:
Even if Naira drops to N4000/$, I will continue to believe in this country because I can see what's coming. The wise are heavily investing in Nigeria while the weak are looking for how to go abroad. The whole world is tired of China, they are looking for cheap labor, Nigeria is the next China. We have the population, the youth and the literacy level to be the next manufacturing power. Plus, several countries that benefited from slavery (U.S, UK, Spain and Portugal) have proposed ways to pay back Africans for all the abuse, exploitations throughout our history. There is a conscious effort to make Africa the next industrial hub. Those lacking foresight won't see this, they only see the now and not the later. Ignore the noise and look for a small factory you can start; In the next 5yrs all the big multinational companies like Amazon, Walmart and co will be pouring billions into our infrastructure just to enable us to manufacture goods for them. So many people will miss this boat, but you are hearing this now, act on it.

Who and where is investing? I mean proper investment not oil refinery. A number of companies will leave Nigeria in 2022 if the infrastructure doesn't improve. The world is becoming smaller. Businessmen and shareholders will request greater capital efficiency. Nigeria is not a capital efficient country.

Do these people not talk with schools? Some are opening on the 10th!

Were those two beings women? I didn't find them attractive. Looks fake with bleached skin - yuck. What has happened to them?

ayindejimmy:
Tattoo doesn't have anything to do with people joining gangs.

Later, some fools will start comparing the United States with China.

China that doesn't allow freedom of religion, speech, and now opinions

Read up on the Yakuza in Japan and the triads in China. Read up on what tattoo means in those organisation. Their reasons are clear.