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@KAG are you a physicist? and where can I get your earlier posts in the forum on the theories of The big bang. |
huxley:Interesting topic Huxley, I think there was some deception going on seems Jacob had some rudimentary knowledge of animal breeding and was somehow exploiting Laban`s ignorance by setting up a smokescreen to divert attention (I guess Laban must have had spies keeping tabs on him). Magicians also do this when they try to keep your attention on one of their hands while quickly doing something with the other (sleight of hand) and there was a prime example of this type of deception in "King Solomon's Mines" when Captain Good and the others pretended to kill the moon when in fact, they actually knew a Lunar eclipse was about to happen. I wouldn't put that beyond Jacob as the bible actually described him as some kind of smart ass deceptive kind of guy. Remember he skinned his brother of his birthright in a scenario similar to modern day uncontrolled capitalism. |
busybein:Maybe because they are gullible and easily led astray ducks a guided missile launched by a womens liberation activist or because my major vices have to do with money and an extremely healthy appetite for activities of the bum shaking kind. Since Chris had been quick to corner the money aspect, I had to act fast not to lose on all fronts. mazaje:Eh Smooth Operator, I have an opening open for an Assistant Sister's coordinator post, you seem to fit the profile of the type of person we're lookin for. Yu can apply with your letter sealed in a GMG bag to Chrisbenogor. |
Chrisbenogor:And I nomimate myself for the post of Sister's Counsellor. ![]() |
Martian:Interesting, you can always name your mushroom church, "Angel Gabriel just left here Ministries" ![]() |
Martian:Wetin happen? did yu encounter a talking donkey or you have suddenly gone blind and have to wait in someone's house for a while to receive your sight? Abi the impossible don happen and God don find ladder come down? Quick tell us wetin dey o. Me too, I want to share in your experience but no be the one wey one yeye pastor go come they crape me o. |
davidylan:You are sick and showing yourself as not being too smart or simply unable to understand simple concepts and you are a prime example of what religion does in mentally shackling an individual who would otherwise be capable of great intellectual achievement or even great discovery. 1. I never claimed that science knows everything. 2. I guess there are experts who have tried such experiments but you dnt need such to prove the existence of thought as thought in itself is an abstract intangible construct (but one which can be proved simply). Pray, where are the lies and misconception? were you not the one who asked me to prove the existence of thoughts? why would you ask me to prove something if you beleived in it? If you need proof of something, it is either you don't beleive it or you are not sure please correct me and choose which one of the two applies to you. I asked you a question and instead of answering, in trying to dodge the question you gave me a task to do and I did it. Proofs are done by either deduction or induction and that is why definition of a term is important. You asked me to prove the existence of thoughts and it is such a simple proof, it is virtually self proving, a simple proof by deduction is as follows. A simple definition of thought is "the process that leads to decision making in man". men make decisions (established fact), If men make decisions, then men think (from the definition) If men think, then thoughts exist (from deduction). I then went ahead to point out to you the connection made between thoughts and the brain by scientists. If my proof of the existence of thoughts was not good enough for you, you would only have pointed out the fallacies in my proof or in my definition instead of going totally rabid. I guess you were asking me to prove the existence of thoughts to you by showing it to you like a film to prove that thoughts exist but it is such a silly question, firstly because noone said thoughts are like films and secondly because it beggars beleive that an intelligent matured adult could think of such a question. The only person you would need to prove the existence of thoughts to is someone who doesn't think and I wonder why you would need to prove the existence of thoughts to such an individual. But then, we all know you were never really looking for an answer now don't we? you gave me a task which was impossible to you in your own eyes but which was actually very simple. As to the question I asked you, I can concievably think of a way to prove the existence of God (or at least make it impossible to disprove the possibility of his existence) with this simple proof. (Which funny enough is why I never say for a certainty that God does not exist, infact I beleive in God but not out of fear the way you do and I never claim to be able to prove it.) Whatever begins to exist has a cause for its existence. The Universe began to exist. Therefore the Universe has a cause for its existence. To prove however that he is the God of the bible is a different matter entirely because I can think of no way by which you could do that without commiting an obvious fallacy of some sort. As to the dark space you say is between my ears, I'm sorry I'm a bit tired and can't start proving the existence of the brain (because yu probably don't beleive that exists too). Yaawwwwn, gotta hit the sack now. Take care. |
A brief summary of Davidylan "From his own words" Davidylan does not "beleive" in the existence of thoughts, so he does not "think". He however "beleives" in the existence of God because he "beleives" and of course, because he learnt of a stone somewhere with Jesus name written on it. He is a genius who does not think (what a contradiction in terms). Yet he calls those who don't beleive in God fools. Can someone define who a fool is? I think our collective understanding of the word fool needs to be clarified. |
davidylan:You have nothing to say and you are doing the same thing you've been accusing others of turning to snide remarks. Every step of the way, you've shown yourself to be a mumu who has only come to hammer a point you cannot prove and that is not intellectual in any way. Let us have your points mumu, that is a very elementary proof of thoughts I gave you and you can't even question it and you are left with nothing but snide remarks. What if an expert in Neuropsychology or psychiatry now takes you up? All you have is belief my dear. That sums of the matter, stick to your beliefs but be sincere enough to admit it or that your God will deny you as a liar if perchance your belief turns out to be true. |
davidylan:I rest my case, please never bring yourself to congregate amongst the category of thinkers and stay in the category of dumb believers who gullibly seat in a church every sunday and nod their heads to rubbish without even going home to think about what they have heard. You are an hypocrite and it is so unfortunate you cannot see yourself as one. Look at the heading of the forum for "Christ's sake." If you want to start up a topic on thoughts please start another forum topic. You are arguing like a kid but I will still indulge you even though your paucity of intelligence does amaze me. Firstly I never even claimed to know anything about thoughts but funny thing is, I have proven the existence of thoughts (in my own manner) to someone already on this forum and she has not replied since, but since your intelligence seems to have departed you even to the point of understanding what is written, I will explain to you again. It is all about the definition Thoughts are defined as the process that occurs within humans that lead to decision makin, you are not creating a new concept, you are only defining what already exists, you can even give it a new name just like the yorubas call it ironu (which it seems you don't do much of). Some scientists have gone ahead to measure electrical activity in the brain that occurs during thinking to prove that thoughts occur within the brain. If you are still so dumb you don't understand this, could you define the definition of thoughts you are talking about. It would amaze you to know the depth of research that has gone into how the brain works, the process of thinking, the links between synapses and memory, conditioned response and all that stuff. Science cannot argue and does not argue against what already exists and its effects can be felt as that is an absurdity in itself. Only a lunatic would deny the existence of thoughts or you are infering that you don't beleive in the existence of thought? so that I can send you to the nearest assylum. Any more insane questions? or will you answer my questions or admit that you have no intellectual basis for beleiving in God and only beleive? By the way, Merry Christmas to all. |
davidylan:Okay, lets assume for once that I'm a lying hypocrite, abi are you happy now? we are getting somewhere. Please answer these simple statements as truthfully and as logically as you can without any rigmarolling. 1. So you agree that you cannot prove that God exists? True or False 2. If you cannot prove it? how can you be so sure it is true to the exclusion of any other probability? In an intellectual manner please and no mystery stuff? 3. If you are not sure? why do you beleive it to be true? (while still keeping your intellectual logic) If you cannot answer these questions intellectually, please never lay claim to any iota of intellectual prowess as you would only have proven yourself to be completely clueless and to be no better than an elementary school drop out. You will have proven yourself to be no more intelligent than these people? 1. The pre colonial era Nigerian natives who worshipped the gods of iron, thunder, rain e.t.c. (They also had belief) 2. The people who were killing twins in the east before Mary Slessor came (They also had belief) 3. The mad hats who drove themselves into the WTC (They also had belief) 4. The idiots who obeyed Reverend King and poured petrol on someone to set her aflame (They also had belief) 5. Kuns and his laughter provoking "knowledge essays" (I don't know what he has but he probably also has belief) 6. A thousand and one other idiots perpetuating folly and idiocy of any sort (such as telling us on this forum that a God they cannot prove to exist will strike us down) with the belief that a mythical being somewhere has sent them to do it. You are all "foaming in the mouth mad hatters" and yur stupid unproven "Beliefs" will keep you in a state of perpetual ignorance in which you are welcome to stay in but please don't come and insult our intelligence here claiming to be what you are not. You may among a host of other things even be right, but if perchance you are right you have only been right because you got expo from somewhere and not in anyway because you are intelligent. You are actually as unintelligent as a dodo. You stupidly and in ignorance think that when 2 people argue one must of a necessity be wrong while the other must be right but foolishly forget that there are other probabilities of both of them being right or having incomplete portions of the whole truth or both of them being wrong so you come here to argue on the basis that the Atheist cannot prove that God doesn't exist and that is enough proof for you that God does exist forgetting that disproving one does not of a necessity prove the other. Go and learn how to reason critically my brother, even if you still choose to beleive in God and Jesus after you have done that you would have done your life a world of good because you will then know truly why you beleive in them rather than this cowardly and desperate reason yu have for beleiving in them which is simply the fear of eternal damnation. |
GL:But your intellectually bankrupt ally Davidylan states that he can prove the existence of God and that he is the God of the bible, if he doesn't go ahead and prove it then he should no longer show his face on this forum. As for you who have accepted christianity. I have no problem with anything you choose to beleive but remember that beleiving does not mean you shouldn't question things and consider them critically, no one has said that there aren't good aspects of Christ's teachings such as love of your fellow man and abolition of the death penalty(even though many of your stupid christians don't even realise that this is one of his teachings) but that does not make him the son of God as I personally beleive most of his statements were largely misunderstood and even if he laid claim to such status I personally don't beleive him as he never proved it to me anyway. But if you swallow everything someone interpretes the bible to tell you without going home to question them or asking them to clarify some things, then you are no better than those idiots who flew planes into the World Trade Center. Some stupid christian students sometime last year walked off into the forest with the belief that they were going to be raptured and almost died of salvation tell me how those are any different from those who carried out 911? the only difference is that some were murderous while the others were suicidal and the root of all these is your so called "Unshakable Belief" in something that doesn't make much sense which some stupid people call "Mysteries of faith". Mysteries my foot, why should God keep mysteries from us if he wants us to know him and acknowledge him as God? wherever there are mysteries, there is usually some exploitation going on only problem is that the idiots who are being exploited don't realise it and come here to tell us that God should forgive us. Even the white men who brought this religion to us have moved far away from it, though they might have also thrown out the baby with the bath water while doing this, but some of us will not. I will read the bible, the Koran, the Torah, the Hindu texts and Buddah books and take the portions I consider beneficial to me and leave those which I consider as intellectual hubris. I am still waiting for that thick headed numbskull to come here and prove the existence of his mythical God. |
@David, You are a wicked man, my soul is about to go to your imaginary hell, where is the concrete proof that I can count on your God to save me? I am still waiting, and please don't give me any faith bullshit, you said you could prove it, now go ahead. |
tpia:We have a lot of dumbheads on Nairaland, would this statetement imply a test of God or a test of the basic laws/principles of biology and physics. No wonder why we never manufacture screw for Nigeria if these are the people we can count as Intellectuals. |
@Davidylan Where exactly did you get the picture of that stone? even without Radio carbon dating I'm a bit suspicious of that stone as it looks a bit too smooth and well preserved IMO and remember that people often falsify archeological research both from the Atheist camp and the religious camp, but let us assume that the stone was truly found what does that tell us? I'm sure yu will gleefully jump to the conclusion that it proves the existence of Jesus because that is what people who clutch at straws do but it actually proves nothing of the sort because the Names James, Joseph and Jesus were popular names in biblical times(at least I know that Joseph and Jesus which is a version of Joshua must have been popular names because of the important early jewish figures who bore those names) so it is not impossible that a family could have had people bearing those 3 set of names. I will still go ahead and agree with you that it is referring to the same Jesus what does that then tell us? It still in no way confirms that he was the son of God, worked all the miracles we heard about, died and ressurected. The chain leads on and on and on fraught with uncertainties and probabilities that I'm sure even you if you truly have any aptitude to appreciate logical reasoning can see this but you are too blinded by religious belief. Please be sincere with yourself, nothing can prove what you are trying to prove. As some of your people here have noted, it is based on belief and has nothing to do with fact but you are just too full of yourself to acknowledge that. I'll build a basic probability chain for you of both our arguments. For your religion to be the only way that guarantees salvation as you preach to us 1. God must exist and 1/2 2. he must be the God of the Bible and 1/3 3. Jesus must be his son 1/2 If we should assign probabilities to these and assume that in stage 1, there are only two choices(evolution and creation) then yu get a probability of 1/2. At stage 2, you get probably a probability of 1/300 (if you consider all the choices of Gods and religion available), but I will be so lenient and give you 1/3, at stage 3, if we count only Judaism and Christianity as proceeding from the old testament, then you get another 1/3. So a rough (and grossly God of the bible biased) probability that you are right is 1/2 *1/3 *1/2 = 1/12 My stand is very simple, 1. God may or may not exist 2. God may or may not be the God of the bible 3. Jesus may or may not be his son At every stage I get a 1 because I rather take the position that no one can prove any of those stages and I do have those that I consider as being more plausible but I lay no claim to being able to prove them in any way so the burden of proof lies with you. Now, the floor is yours you can go ahead and prove why I need to beleive in your God or why your choice is more logical than mine. If you can succeed then I will become a born again christian tomorrow, infact just like the children of Israel did to Moses I will even allow you to be representative of God for me. But if you cannot, then you must agree with me that there is a very distinct probability that what you beleive is false and that all you have is "Belief" which cannot in anyway be validated. The floor is yours. |
Monicaa:Won tun ti de o, he won't stand in the middle of the road because physics says the momentum of a vehicle will kill him and mathematics indicate that the probability of him getting hit is very high. No be una talk say una get God wey fit do everything. Go stand there and let us see if your God will save you or better still let your God come down to stand in the middle of the road if the laws of physics no go catch am. |
tharma:Hypocrisy galore, if you are now beleiving stories that have been passed from mouth to mouth by the jews, why don't you beleive the stories of your own people, why not beleive in Esu laalu, Ogun, Oya, Sango e.t.c? |
davidylan:There is a serious flaw in this argument. 1. You are dodging Bindex points, he gave the reasons why Flavius' account were disputed but you are only responding with a wild accusation as to the reason why his writings were disputed, you are sounding like those who are being prosecuted for corruption and give the reason why they are being prosecuted as persecution rather than considering their misdeeds. 2. You have answered the question about why his other works were accepted "because there is enormous archeological evidence" haba, you don't throw out the baby with the bath water now. The fact that his account was right on one occasion does not mean his account will always be right. Why enormous archeological record no dey to prove jesus' case? God no dey powerful enough? |
@Martian Welcome back jooo, I had gotten used to your Dios handle and felt bad at your losing it for such a flimsy reason, I also wanted to confirm if I would get banned if I called Pastor Adeboye a dumbhead bozo, I mean what happened to free speeech? you weren't even banned for insulting or abusin another poster but a third party who has not interests whatever to protect here, That mod self is more retarded than the man (if that was the flimsy reason he could give) but I'm sure it is not naijacutee or any of the mods here. |
Chrisbenogor:If he ain't coming down, then lets go up and meet him, oops, I forgot he only exists in some people's imagination. |
Fallin in love is overrated as love could mean a lot of things. The Greek concept of love would make for an interesting study with their eros, phileo, agapao e.t.c definitions of different types of love. Which one exactly are you talking about? If it is the shaggin type, that is just a basic primal response to stimuli which societal views and upbringing has conditioned us to resist with variable degrees of success in each individual starting from the full scale proverbial "dog" who gets turned on at the sight of any member of the opposite sex to the quintessential religious individual who practically sees it as a necessary evil of some sort within marriage. As to the other type that shows nurturing, care, romance e.t.c; I guess it has to do with our realization of the fact that we need to replicate such things as we receive from others to them as well if we are to continue receiving such consideration from them in the future. Also it does no harm in helping you achieving your shaggin needs if you get what I mean. In summary, there is nothing like falling in love IMO it just depends on extent to which yu allow either of your primal responses or your societal conditioned responses dominate your decision making. To answer the poster's question, Yes you can always catch yourself before you fall in love and in fact you can do more than that, you can actually fall out of love when you so desire to do as the power of decision and choice is in every human (who doesn't have other mental defects) from birth but societal conditioning either reduces it substantially or almost takes it away from you in certain instances. |
@naijacutee Its all about misplaced beliefs m'dear, some muslims beleive in 70 virgins while some christians beleive in streets paved with gold and will do anything to achieve their concept of Nirvana, sad folk aint they? I think you're a Mod, what is up with Dios? why exactly was he banned and what rules exactly has he violated? |
dayokanu:yes, some players are greatly underatted and underappreciated usually only noticed for their absence rather than their presence such as Makelele at Real Madrid. I beleive Africans are good in the DM role because of our now generally accepted better athletic attributes. With a little more discipline and organization the europeans no suppose get mouth for where we dey at all and even the South Americans should fear us more because we also have skill. A very good example was this year's Olympics final which in my opinion we had every opportunity to win with a little more discipline. Anyway, lets look forward to SA 2010 though we might not get the weather advantage as SA will be in the thick of their winter with low temperatures when the tournament gets underway. |
olabowale:This bloke is about to go critical, everyone run for cover. I'd exchange David for this guy everytime, seems he has a point about them muslims. |
No mind dem, the hypocrites go deny am and come up with one concocted explanation again. |
Sweet T:I'm not sure she is the one as people put all sorts of pics in their profile but that is one hot dish that makes my peepee go DOING DOING DOING, I would gladly renounce my earlier arguments while laying my head on that sumptous bosom it would be a taste of the "heaven/Aljanah/7th density" that these misguided blokes have been trying so hard to convince us exists somewhere. NB: Correction, it was the pic in LadyT's profile I was referring to and not Lady even though Lady's pic does look fine too but her face looks a bit too bookish for my liking. |
annekix:Na one ugly looking wowo girl like that wey get puckered up, pimple ridden face with one K leg and one bow leg, she also get some kin Jet-Li martial arts moves and she don receive vision say na yu be her God ordained husband. |
Adam Brody:I hope you haven't been banned again for repeating that he is a retard but I would like to lodge a protest with the moderator if yu were indeed banned becos of this. And while I do appreciate the man's simplicity, some of his miracles don't make much sense and should clearly be evident to some of these blokes as false. Can you stomach this? a guy dumb from birth supposedly started speaking and immediately started speaking in flawless English. I almost burst into tears when the millions of people at the crusade started rejoicing and shouting cos it was then I realised the enormous problems we have in Nigeria and why we have not developed as we should. I support yur statement, Pastor Adeboye's miracles should only be beleived by the retarded and he is retarded if he expects me to beleive such obviously spurious miracles. Now I've done it, I look forward to my ban. |
In a not so distant galaxy, some poor bloke is sitting with his head between his hands and an anxious look on his face while asking the question "Is There a Woman Shortage?" |
@Moderator Please unban Dios, let him that have no sin cast the first stone and all that blah blah blah, I don't mind standing surety for him. Please don't give him a multiple personality like Davidylan. |
fantacie:Now we know why you are a christian, you are only being risk averse. Please remember that you are still in risk of the hell fire of Allah, Buddah, Krishna and Kun's nubian God (probably) so you still don't have all your bases covered. Fair game to you anyway, I like your risk management principles. |
Lady:No problem, I'll look forward to seeing it as it is always a pleasure to participate in sound intellectual discussion provided you don't take it down the route of guerilla warfare as a certain "Davidian" who claims to know everything has done. I sincerely hope he doesn't go down the route of a certain David Koresh. While I don't question your judgement in any shape or form, I would like to come to my own conclusions as to its beauty or lack of beauty knowing the propensity of humans to deceit and politics. ![]() |
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, even if u don't want to believe in God, stop the name calling n stupid words, be careful what u say, it's like joke but u r taking it too far with the insults on God, sorry i meant god because u can't be talking bout God this way
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