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richie240:
Actually I didn't intend to quote u, I'm surprised how ur post got enmeshed in DT of d guy who posted d yinka odumakin video.
Apologies

No offense taken.

richie240:
That was how they blamed d ozubulu killings on 'fulani herdsmen' until findings later showed dt it was done by their own kith and kins over drug dealings gone awry.
These ppl's inate hatred and bigotry is unparalleled and sickening!



Una ppl mata is a cause for concern........ worrisome!
Ppl that were attacked said they were masked attackers u are here quoting someone who was prolly grinding his wife when d incident occurred. Haba.

https://www.nairaland.com/5300168/funke-olakunrins-driver-maid-reveal

There's no difference BTW what u (plural) are accusing d 'herdsmen' of and d havoc u are causing thru spreading of falsehood and propaganda. God really is with us, or else, d propaganda DT led to Rwanda genocide is a child's play to what u ppl have pathetically submerged urselves in.
God pass Satan!


My broda, There's no havoc inbred hated cannot cause o, even if it means telling bare-faced lies just to destroy ur enemy -real or perceived!

if you have followed my comments i don't think you will mention me in a sentence that has falsehood ,for all i know you might be typing from abuja oblivious of what is going on in the rest of the country. Men posing as herdsmen have been caught in Edo and delta with guns, now whether they are real herdsmen, that is not my business to find out, but people like you being in denial to the security challenge gradually taking over our high ways is what i find disturbing.

CXLVII:
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lol, you nor well,ozuo.

CXLVII:
1994 kids will never understand the history you sharing with them

come who are you shading with this comment,you dont want it with me Felix,i am not your mate,you better keep your waging tongue in place.

dominique:
Then should we tag them herdsmen or bandits then? They may be criminals of fulani extraction but not necessarily herdsmen. Herdsmen have been driving their cattle around the country for decades (if not centuries) and some of them do constitute nuisance on other people's farm we've not heard of anything about them being this brutal until recently. There are definitely some people pushing propaganda and fake news to foister disunity and bigotry amongst us, and they're succeeding.

and ones in benue and plateau are not herdsmen either going by your logic ,so we should just call them bandits. Also the people slaughtered and raped in their farms were are not attacked herdsmen either, they are bandits.

And let me add here that Nigeria has never been united ,the earlier we tell ourselves the truth the better we will face our problem and profer solutions.

NeekolazWorld:
My sister we are not arguing, read the first message you quoted me and why I responded. I be full Edo/Delta guy. My dad from Edo and mum from Delta. I don waka these routes you are calling since I was 16 years old and I am over 30 now. I don't know how old you are or when you started plying those routes, but I just want you to know that these crimes we are talking about now has been existing on that route since I started plying that route at 16 and it's still happening till date. Herdsmen saga came up just recently and am not disputing the fact that they are now involved. My little submission is that these crimes are not necessarily committed by these herdsmen because a lot of people who have been in this crime for long in those routes are now using it as a cover to commit their crimes.

and you must think i am typing from abuja with the way you keep trying to convince me you are more Edo than me? ,you are even half blooded lol .And by the way i might just be older than you mr 30s lol.

Anyways safer highways is all the common citizens want and it seems the only way crimes gets curbed is when it happens to prominent people ,lets see what comes out of the investigation that will follow this case.

CXLVII:
Where are people paid for saying the truth?

Its my duty as an honourable citizen of this Great country, to see evil and shoot it down.

truth? Lol ,OK o

CXLVII:
Thanks.

i hope the pay is worth it Felix.

CXLVII:
At a time.

wehdone o.

CXLVII:
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lol you must be working over time on this fulani issue

NeekolazWorld:
I go school for okada ooo. I no dey argue blindly madam. I do complete 5 years law degree for IUO. I pass that route wella. Way before then I have had lots of experience one that Benin Ore route personally. No be herdsmen do am, na our Edo people steady. Even I saw people bleeding and crying that I should help take some in my car to hospital but fear no let me carry anybody because I wise die. Maybe I for dey police station till now say na me and my members dey try escape.
I have done an unusual complete 180 degree u turn on that same express before, just immediately a God is good bus did that same turn we just knew there was an attack. We closed the highway for good one hour, till police declared the road open and we had to move seeing the terrible attack on a luxurious bus. These are just the few I can say because I can write a full book about Benin Ore road. There is a place I always pray to pass successfully and every single time I pass there, immediately on my steering I pray and give God thanks. Abeg no let me talk too much. Believe what you believe but pray never to have such an experience where you see its your own people doing it but people will criticize you for speaking the truth and point fingers elsewhere.

and i dont argue blindly either ,that you have not encountered them doesn't mean they are not there , i know two people including myself who have have experiences to share . you are talking about benin -ore and i am talking about benin-agbor and around that igueze area , now i suggest you talk about what you know and let other people say their own.

wirinet:
If they did not come with cows or present any evidence they have cows, why do you then label them herdsmen? Can you just call them criminals, militants, terrorists, anything other thing but herdsmen?
It's like labelling Niger delta militants that was kidnapping militants ijaw fishermen

OK then lets call them fulani terrorists ,satisfied??


But then again if we are to go by this logic,it means all the attack carried out in benue,plateua, and other states are not fulani herdsmen. So my question now is who are they, and why the senseless killings?

dominique:
Is it that people don't want to be rational thinkers anymore in this country or they just prefer to go with the narrative that suits them? As long as it paints certain people in a bad light, they'd rather feast on it.



WHERE WERE THE COWS?

I asked a similar question as BAT yet nobody was able to give me a tangible answer yet they expect me to point accusing fingers at herdsmen? Like BAT said, it will be wrong to stigmatize any person or persons especially in this situation where the perpetrators are yet to be identified.

I sincerely hope the security operatives up their game and put an end to all these insecurity menace once and for all.

but herdsmen that have attacked villages didnt go with their cows either. So also the ones that were caught with guns and paraded in my state didn't have cows with them.

If we are to go by your logic,the people attacking benue,plateau and other states are not herdmen either

NeekolazWorld:
Bro before all these Fulani saga, see that Benin Ore route, since way back has always been a death trap. Na our people dey do am since I dey tell you. I dey pass there steady and na baba God we dey look up to anytime we dey pass there. Am talking about since way back ooo no be even now.

and me i am telling you the one i know, that the criminals operating at benin-agbor bypass and okada village are fulanis. Some of them were parade on crime watch last year ,it has still not stopped as it seems there are alot of them inside that forest .na wetin person know e dey talk and you are right ,this attack has been going on for long, but since the people involved are not related to top politicains ,the police doesn't do much and i remember man around town some years back reporting this crime almost every time but nothing much was done about it.

NeekolazWorld:
This is exactly what I have been asking on this forum today. I know people personally from Edo state that are still in prison today for kidnapping. These crime has been in Edo state since before herdsmen saga so why is it now they are tagging these crimes to herdsmen if not just to create a problem in Nigeria.

they might not be herdsmen but they definitely are fulanis,the ones operating at benin-agbor road bypass and around okada village are definitely fulanis.

lordparcel:
So he is indirectly blaming Igbos

that is what it seems ,Nigeria is a cinema

lordparcel:
Lol.......the way Nigeria is structured if you are not Yoruba
You can never succeed in Music
Why? Because Yoruba own the Media
Even Ruffcoin openly said it in
BBC Igbo

Am sure if Zlatan and naira Marley were from Igbo
He wouldn't even be known

erriga concurs!

She looks good,that dress and wig is fire,her stylist knows their job.

xteem001:
Check very well.... There are Yahoo boys

only the ancestors revealed this to you

maoolakanm:
ATIKU HAVE SAID IF HE DIDN'T WIN THE ELECTION THE KILLING WILL CONTINUE AND TRUE HIS ARMY ARE ON THE PROWL.

are you people not tired of being in denial? OK now its atiku ,geez! Such delusional souls. .

The country is sinking, men from Niger, Mali and co posing as herdsmen have been imported to kill and maim, the umbrella body of herdsmen are not ready to take responsibility and do the right thing to flush out these criminals, the government is not ready to ban open grazing and mandate all cow rearers to own ranches ( which is the permanent solution) and now you want to politicise it and blame opposition party, what is wrong with you people? Why is your thought process so skewed? My God! This is just too moronic of you.

julybaba:
There is a popular adage that says "A thief can not succeed without the help of insiders. "
Do you know what that means?

which is why I suspect miyeti alla is aware that there are imported criminals from Togo ,Niger and co to cause mayhem in Nigeria.

To what end is what I wasn't sure, but with this ruga ,the agenda is more clear, they imported machineries to cause unrest call it farmers/herdsmen clash and ask for ruga as a way to settle it.

Yyeske:
Mr Kehinde, the younger brother to the deceased and who did'nt witness anything said whatever he felt like saying, I need statements from witnesses.
Remember I'm not absolving the herdsmen yet, let the police do their job before crucifying anybody for now.

I dont know where you reside and I don't know if this particular attack was by Fulani herdsmen but there has been several attacks of herdsmen on benin-ore express way, benin- asaba bypass, Benin - auchi express way for some years now, but they never make it to the news because the victims are not related to politicians. Infact there was a case of the pastor that was attacked by herdsmen along benin - auchi road about two years ago but as usual nothing was done about it and that case died down.

While I am of the opinion that these guys posing as herd men are from Niger, Togo and co ,miyeti alla must know that their own reputation is at stake here except they are aware of these crimes and want to cover up.

madridguy:
Igbos don't hate buhari. Forget PDP online miscreants.

God bless Said Baba

even me that is not ibo dislike buhari, that man is an unapologetic tribal terrorist.Buhari is a terrible president.

Ruga means Fulani settlement , so they are saying each state should give their lands to Fulani's , what audacity!

delishpot:
Maybe not all but most of them. They exchange sex for roles. Sometimes they have prepped for the role and then the lead actor arrives and asks for sex as part of his fee. To cut down cost the producer will accept and ask the upcomming girl playing a major role to sleep with him or forfeit the role.
Other times they tell you straight that if you do as required you get a leading role but if you hardly play ball na only waka pass go dey come your way.

na wah o

delishpot:
A friend of mine was into this nollywood shit in pH. She said when these top actors visit their producer in those days, he organises up comming actresses to warm their beds. Any girl that refuses is kicked to the background. Those guys are a sex cukt/syndicate. Many of these big male actors have slept with these struggling women. Although I wouldn't call it rape but still it ain't right. His wife knows about it too. The casting couch is real.

so we can conclude that all the famous actresses today passed through this process. Seems to be a norm in nollywood, even aspiring models are not left out,smh

abayomilaws:
You are welcome sir

I am not a guy

abayomilaws:
The major challenge is the great deal of ignorance of criminal law of rape. Even many educated rape victims do not even know when they were raped, and majority view rape as "only sex by force " where the victims must show evidence of bruises, black eye , swollen faces etc. Where victims claimed rape and they cannot show evidence of being battered, even the Police officer taking the report of such incident by the victims would be the one that would chastise the victims first by asking these questions " why did you go to his house alone if not for the fact that you want to be copulated with ? Are your panties torn? No bruises no sign of struggle ,that means you consent to the sex?. Nay the above notion about rape is very narrow in defining what Nigerian criminal law of rape envisages. By virtue of section 357 of the criminal code act cap c38, rape is defined " any person who has unlawful carnal knowledge of a woman or girl, without her consent, or with her consent , if the consent is obtained by force or by means of threats or intimidation of any kind, or by fear of harm, or by means of false and fraudulent representation as to the nature of the act, or , in the case of a married woman , by personating her husband , is guilty of an offence which is called rape." From this definition, it is deduced that where consent is obtained by intimidation of any kind such as promises of advantage, undue influence and duress may be factors thay may vitiate the seeming consent and make it a rape. For instance where a pastor told a female worshipper, if I pour my holy water, euphemism for sperm, on you, you will be healed of your blindness and the girl consents to have sex with the pastor, and after the sex she still remains blind, it is rape because of fraudulent representation and this is also an undue influence from pastor to his female worshipper. This goes for a male medical Doctor to his female patients, a male lecturer to his female student , a police officer who promises the wife of the arrested suspect " if I have sex with you I will release your husband", see a common law case of R. v. Williams where a choirmaster told a chorister (girl) that if I have a sex with you, your voice hoax and texture will be improved , the girl consented and had sex with him, lo and behold her voice did not improve. The House of Lord HELD that IT WAS A RAPE.

thanks for clarifying. Like you rightly said ,a lot of people including me were ignorant of the bolded,although I knew it was wrong to intimidate a person to have sex just didnt know it was catogrised under rape. This is very educative,a lot of women have been raped and don't even know it and some men have been rapist and don't even know it either.

abayomilaws:
It is rape since consent was not freely obtained but induced by the influence on , promises, and intimidation of the victims by the assailant.

I doubt that rape accusation will fly in court, its the same scenario where bosses sleep with their staff with the threat of loosing their jobs,a beg lawyers should clarify .

RTSC:
I hate them with a passion.

Many foreigners on the internet hate Nigeria and are looking for any means to justify those stereotypes.
And that is what these unscrupulous Nigerian vloggers leverage on.
I don't want to start mentioning names, make I no spoil their market.

which market? They are spoiling the name of the country just for their selfishness, that one nor be market o.

Even the op that can't even construct simple english is claiming blogger ,smh, the mod that pushed it to fp sef na suegbe.They are quick to ban when it has to do with one religion or certain monikers ,this forum is messed up.

FreelanceRebel:
Same way ulcers is not cause by hunger or pepper, its caused by bacteria

but hunger and pepper can worsen ulcers tho.

TheMoniker:

This arrogant and proud guy talk from all sides of his mouth acting like “I know it all” cos he’s in UK I guess. Most of the things he Type doesn’t make any sense. But people like us that are faceless will kuku keep quiet like we don’t know even wheb we’ve been to over 15 countries and have vast knowledge.
I blocked him on Twitter cos to me he doesn’t have sense.

if you have a contrary view please share so others can learn .