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Just listen to the clown, Shittu:

He said: “I will be a bastard to be defrauded out of a primary process and still behave like I am a slave. I think it does not make sense.

“I have been a foundation member of APC and twice I have run the primary for governor.

“In 2011, I aspired. I was defeated by the incumbent. In 2015, I aspired, I was defrauded, and I challenged that primary that gave Governor Ajimobi a second term.

“I went to court, and I was still in court when my appointment as minister was announced.

“That meant I had to abandon that suit, but the governor, instead of thanking his God that I did not continue with that suit, sponsored a campaign to stop my confirmation.”

Well, you proved you were a bastard already for a pot of porridge the moment you accepted the post of a Minister in 2015 and abandoned your original suit against your party. Capiche?

These pedestrian "ministers" sef.

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Why is it that it is mostly Buhari's political associates from the western part of the country who were originally with Buhari in their party - the CPC - who now want to form emperors in the states they currently happen to govern or serve as Ministers from, thereby causing Katakata in their party, the APC? Just why? What kind of coincidence is this?

Hey... Amosun, Akeredolu, Shittu, and so on, I'm referring to you!

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CaptainFM1:
You can't make us sign shady peace pact, when you won't even sign bill that will ensure free and fair election in 2019. Even INEC came out to say 75% of where you won in last elections where areas where incident forms were used. 13.5millions voted for you without PVC accreditation.... And you think you can deceive us again? Please just pack and rest well deep in Daura soil.

You're a terrible liar from hell... INEC did not say such a thing; those crooked figure were manufactured by a fake news purveyor publication that once said Atiku was on his way to America, LOL.

In any case, the Incidence Form was used EVERYWHERE.

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bedspread:
Is Nnamdi your INEC! What does Nnamdi hv to do with Our Elections

What he has to do with Our Elections? Have you been missing what he's been saying, that No leflendum, No 3rection?

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plainol:
Fair play died in Osun.

Sorry, no; "Fair Play" died earlier during Ekiti 2014 - in fact even much earlier in 2007 as Yar'Adua the immediate beneficiary himself then, confirmed and attested.

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Stanweezy:
Why should Atiku sign peace accord when Buhari refuses to sign Electoral amendment bill

In other words, why should there be 3rection when there's no lefrendum, abi? Na you, biko!

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Amumaigwe:
Because the evil APC used it to rig Buhari into power in 2015. They want to forestall a repeat in 2019. 7 million voters that voted Buhari did not use card reader.

That's based on some piece of junk journalism and fake news from hell, as usual. In any case, the fake figures from the fake report claimed there was rigging everywhere, but that some parties were beaten at there own game this time around, hence the new round of wailing.

Anyways, and if it makes you sleep better, the use of the Incidence Form, which is the basis of the fake news you referenced, has been formally abolished by INEC. Please deal with that.

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cucumbae:
I suspect say una won rig that election.This one wey lie mohammad dey brag say jubril don already win election wey never start.Make he sign am so that the card reader go fit help the tribunal to find out.The inclusion of card reader in the electoral bill is what the national assembly want the president jubril to sign so that it can be made reference to in the tribunal if buhari rig the election.After the 2015 election and when the politicians who lost at that time challenge the winner and demand that the card reader should be authenticated,the court turned it down by saying that card reader was not constitutional.If buhari jubril believes he will win the election credibly,he should sign the electoral amendment.

Listen, during the back-and-forth with the amendments, it was the lawmakers who actually deliberately removed the provision for the compulsory use of the Card Reader in the proposed Bill. It was the President who had to point the omission out to the lawmakers and force them to put it back in. So, what's your point regarding that, actually?

Secondly, the accepted convention worldwide, not just in Africa, is that you do not make a substantial change to an electoral law less than six months before a scheduled election. This is so that all planning, preps, budgeting, e.t.c. regarding an election would then be based on the law that will govern an election. How many times would this have to be pointed out to you guys?

And as Festus Keyamo just pointed out, a general election was cancelled by the Supreme Court in Kenya recently for a similar reason of an inappropriate timing of their electoral law. What is so difficult to understand and accept in all of these?

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Zillahnonso:
How can I read what you Kayamo, who according to CHIMA AMADI embraces what other lawyers cannot touch with a long pole?

Kayamo with your diarrhea mouth you did not reply him. Because he promised you he will let more cats out of the bag, especially how you became a SAN.

Reply CHIMA AMADI oh!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't run away like your principal is doing to presidential debate.

Why on earth would anyone expect Keyamo to respond to iPOB Chima Amadi's writing? Just why?

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CilicMarin:
Since 2015 that Started Zero Incident form and 100% Biometric. How many elections has the PDP won?

How come Osun State had over 800, 000 Votes in the just concluded bye election, while Anambra State could only boast of a little above 200,000?

How come the bye elections that returned Bayelsa State Governor had less than 150 000 votes?

This is wicked fa, hmm.

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Dpharisee:
Whether they sign peace accord or not the reality is that the main candidates in this election are Fulanis, so the peace accord will be to prevent Fulanis from killing themselves over their brothers because I dont expect a Yoruba to physically attack an Igbo (vice versa) over Atiku or Buhari as it will amount to the highest stupidity, the fight ends online between 'Afonja and IPOB', immediately they logout from Nairaland they call Nkechi or Iyabo to meet them at that usual joint followed by 'if you know you know'

Reference stuff.

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festacman:
Not signing is a big minus rather than a plus.

True, this.

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simplycarro:
But this peace pact venue is in Nigeria and not America! Why is Atiku running away ??

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kitaatita:
This is satire
Atiku has to confirm that he is not signing agreement with an impostor first. Besides, what peace when Peter Obi's account has been frozen and Doyin Okupe is in EFCC custody. What if he turns up and is asked that the venue has been shifted to Philadelphia or Cincinnati. What if he is arrested to defend himself against allegations of corruption; even when his boss has forgiven his alleged crimes and a Catholic priest (Kukah) has given spiritual absolution to his sins.

I'm seeing epic posts upandan today; this is one of them...

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kaeycea:
Atiku should not sign any pact until Buhari signs electoral bill into law.
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Sounds like and rhymes the same as: No lefilendom, No erection!

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funshoquadri:
....... getting to the venue ah come and see American intelligence everywhere.......

Savage!

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RevenGeMission:
He doesnt want peace


Or maybe hes afraid USA is sending seal teams ??


imagine if it was Buhari , likes of Oledepo , Mumundi , Flatinis and Monkey Obasanjo would have been shouting

"Buhari apparently doesnt want peace , theyd probably make reference to monkey bloody , cow bloody , dog and baboon misinterpreted quotes

Right.

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Maryam1234:
The president gave good reasons for rejecting the bill. There is a deliberate attempt to mortgage the president by saraki and co. If not, why all these errors? Clause not specified for the 4th time. What is PDP afraid of? The electoral law of PDP for 16 years is still valid. I urge Buhari to assent to the clearly specified amendment bill the NASS will bring next time after d 2019 poll.
God bless Nigeria and Nigerians

Very well said, Maryam1234; you're carried.

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zlantanfan:
Mr president 2023, I don't think sharing loot like atiku would make people climb top of roofs, this is genuine love.


They just want someone to liberate them from Mr juicy position

... Mr juicy position ... LOL.

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DogmaNation:
Do ur work as a moderator n stop been partian.

There's nothing partisan about airing one's views, or even whipping clearly recalcitrant members into line.

The Forum can't afford to be rudderless. Capiche?

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Jothamthompson:
In a joint sitting.... PDP can get 2/3rd

No, they can't, sorry. Not even at the time Saraki was at the height of his 'power' over his colleagues; now he's declined - and further declining fast.

In any case, the Law stipulates two-thirds in EACH house of the assembly. They can hold a joint seating if they so please, but by law, votes on the issues will be determined per house.

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bkool7:
They don't have the number. Apc members won't vote in favour.
I solely l blame NASS. This is the 4th time and the presidency is still noticing certain errors. I'm thinking those errors must be deliberate because I don't know how the NS can't draft an errorless document at the fourth attempt if it's not meant to be intentional

These ppl had four year to amend a document and they blew it. Now it's late

Well said. Yours truly couldn't have put it any better.

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Sirheny007:
Its not my fault when you cannot take a joke.
I did not bother to reply other mentions.

My post earlier was intended to be a joke. So it is not my fault you got no sense of humor.
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You sef, you would have reduced considerably the chances of folks taking your post the wrong way if you had simply added one smiley or two.

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omoiyalayi:
It has now become back & forth debate

This is why it is difficult to move this country forward

If this bill is one of the bill that will affect ordinary nigeria lives positively this is how they will be pushing it around

Did the national assembly just realize how important this bill is to electoral process?

Why delay till this year before coming up with electoral amendment bill since after 2015 general election ?

Even the executive is not left out of this blame why did they not start the process earlier enough with the majority apc lawmaker at that time

Our government are not proactive at all they will wait till last minute to start making arrangement for things that will better people lives, so when they fail they will start making excuses that there was no time to implement it

#pity

See 20/20 vision and blaming, LOL. Are you not one of the governed? Did you raise these issues yourself since 2015, or ask your rep/senator to table a new/amendment to the existing electoral Law?

We've all failed as usual, my dear friend, and yours truly is not even the political-activist type, so I won't make that lofty claim.

Having said that, my commendation to you if you did raise the issue since 2015, but then please tell us what you did and the outcome of your efforts and those of your reps/senator since 2015. Thanks.

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drlateef:
Obviously, those who work with Buhari are far more intelligent and experienced than national assembly law drafters. I am not surprised. Anywhere that has no leadership with integrity will lack objectivity and efficiency. Square pegs must be placed in square holes.

Good thinking, and I fully agree.

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PDPGuy:
Yes.
The NASS, by a two-thirds vote in each chamber, can override a president’s veto.

However, I agree with President Buhari on this issue. It’s way too late in the game to start changing the rules. It’s not wise to start the electoral process with the 2015 Electoral Act, and conduct the general election using the potential new law.

I wholeheartedly the bill should only be applicable to elections after 2019.

I endorse this statement wholeheartedly.

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TEYA:
Lalasticlala only moved this to front page because posters were saying python, python repeatedly. Lala and snakes! That guy will never change.

You funny die.

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dpete1:
You Seem To Be Oblivious Of This Same African Charter Law's Clause, Which Says : Unless There Is An Urgent Reason For It, And With The Consent Of Other Political Parties.

Fair enough; but where is the consent of ALL the registered Political Parties agreeing to the new Bill for it to be signed into Law?

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Eruditor:
Funny enough, the bill In question was only recently revised and sent to PMB last week. The law says PMB has 30days to sign but they are pretentiously rushing him to create an atmosphere many may construe as PMB being unwilling to sign it. As if he is not allowed to read it before assenting to it.

A bill, these scandalous knaves tried to remove the card readers from the last time.

True, that. Well spotted.

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jomoh:
There must be something fundamentally wrong in that electoral bill for PDP, Saraki and his ilks to be hell bent on the presidents assent.

I think it's because they envisage most rural folks would be de-franchised/not be able to vote due to lack of proper voter education and required infrastructure, if the new Law is suddenly put in place just two months (or less) away from the commencement of the general elections.

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Saraki is just shouting on this issue for nothing. If he and his colleagues had honest intentions, they would have gotten the Bill off the ground way before this time.

In any case, the African Charter states that any law that will be used to conduct an election should be in place not later than six months before the election is scheduled to take place.

That's only fair, because all the preps and rules towards the election would then derive from the law. In this present case, most of the rules and preps and equipment provisions and associated budgets have been locked in based on the Law that was used for the 2015 elections, which elections and outcomes were adjudged fair by all sides.

So, why change the rules of a game in the middle of play? That should not be allowed in a proper democratic setting, and I belief that's the spirit behind that aspect of the African Charter on Elections I referred to earlier.

BTW, Mr. Falana (SAN) had supported this African Charter under reference, and had warned about the present lacuna, once it occurred to him the process for the conclusion of the new Bill would not be in place earlier than six months before February 12, 2019, or thereabout.

As things stand, the new Bill will have to wait to be used for elections that will be scheduled to hold not less than six months after it may have become Law.

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TonyeBarcanista:
All were rigged na.

2019 won't be like before...

LOL... Where has any election ever been held in Nigeria and there was not one form of rigging or another practiced?

And what will be different in 2019?

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