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Redman44:
The second trailer is good too.

I want the poster to come out with more information

Who are the guys behind KAJOLA? Why the name KAJOLA?

And I'm happy Desmond Elliot is involved in this movie.

However, unlike The Figurine's trailers, KAJOLA's trailers are not telling a story.

The narration on KAJOLA'S trailers suck

@ Poster/ Posters

You can do better!!!

@Redman44

FYI considering you asked . . .

Kajola is the yoruba word for commonwealth.

In the year 2059, Nigeria becomes a totalitarian state. After a second civil war, the rich relocate to the Island areas of Lagos state and turn it into an ultra modern city. The war torn mainland of lagos state is disconnected and abandoned.

A rebel leader, Allen learns of a plot codenamed kajola to build cities on the mainland and eliminate the remaining survivors. He leads a rebellion against the govt. And must be stopped by Yetunde, the police chief. Though mortal enemies, both discover that everything they thought they knew were nothing but lies.

Its a story of love and lust and it heightens the fact that if we don't deal with the segregation and negligence issues facing the country today, then our future is quite predictable because TOMORROW IS TODAY.

The film stars the unique talents of Adonijah Owiriwa, Keira Hewatch, Desmond Elliot, Cassandra Odita and TJ Morgan.

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Karo93:
1 Peter 3:3-4

You should not make use of outward aids to make yourselves beautiful, such as the way you do your hair, or the jewelry you wear.

Instead your beauty should consist of your true inner self, the ageless beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of the greatest value in God's sight.

@Karo93

"Iwa lewa" literally meaning "Character is Beauty"; good character that is

Yeah an admonition to wives from Peter

This is the kind of beauty which lasts and one that God considers very special.

[size=14pt]The Olumba Olumba Obu story - Why he’s god, by devotee[/size]
By TOPE ADEBOBOYE
Saturday, March 13, 2010

https://www.sunnewsonline.com/images/olumba-olumba.gif
^{Olumba Olumba}

Many people may have been wondering why members of the brotherhood of the Cross and the Star, refer to the spiritual leader of the sect, Olumba Olumba Obu, as god almighty.

Such people do not need to wonder any more, as Mr Parkson Edjeketa, a priest with the controversial religious group, has given reasons for that.

According to Edjeketa, who is based in The Netherlands, Olumba Obu is a great spiritual leader.

He also spoke on why members of the sect shun meat and beverages and why it’s a sin for a man to kill any living thing, including mosquitoes and houseflies.

Why do you call your leader, Olumba Olumba Obu, god almighty when the man himself has said severally that he’s not God?
We have come to a stage where we must be spiritually enlightened to know certain things about God. When we talk about God, we are talking about a mega-dynamic concept. It is not something I can force into you. There are true spiritual definitions that can actually enable one to know God. The fact that God can be humanised, can be a man is a kind of postulation and imagination of some deluded minds. God, as God, remains God and can never be man.

But we should understand by now that with God, everything is possible. If God reveals himself to you as God, it will be very difficult for you to even transmit the message to another person because that person does not know the form of God. Right from the beginning, nobody has seen God. That is what the Bible says: “What eyes have not seen, what ears have not heard, what the minds have not perceived, that will I show to my children.” What is it that the eyes have not seen in this world? It is God. But this same God can transform himself into any form to reveal himself unto his children, even at this our age.

So, Leader O.O. Obu has done more than what even our Lord Jesus Christ did. What did our Lord Jesus Christ do in his first advent? For instance, he walked on top of water. That is a miraculous feat. He resurrected Lazarus after four days. But Leader Obu has done more than that; somebody died for seven days, he brought him back to life. Leader O.O. Obu stood on water the first day he went to baptize people. He stood on water to bless the water. The people who are opportune have been seeing him in the skies.

But Jesus, while on earth, kept talking about his father in heaven?
He was only trying to dramatize the same for us to follow. Remember he said ‘I am the way, the truth and the life and no one comes to the father except by me.’ When we talk about God, the concept is so heavy that we need to be spiritually mature to comprehend his talk, because most of all these things, he talked in parables and we need to decode them. When he said our father in heaven, it does not mean that God is not everywhere. If the father is only in heaven, then he is no longer omnipresent because he’s everywhere. He’s here with us. He’s in the moon, the sun, down the ocean and everywhere. How can he now confine the father to be in heaven alone?

When the Hebrews said heaven is his throne, the earth is his footstool, the heaven means the head. If you go to the space, there is nowhere you will see any structure. God is a spirit.

People say your leader doesn’t travel?
The leader is not a human being; he’s a spirit. This interview we are doing is not enough because there is nothing I will say here that will convince the world that God has come in human form.

A lot of people will no doubt accuse you of committing blasphemy
If it’s blasphemy, I cannot live for a second because I know what it is to blaspheme against God. King Nebuchadnezzar did it, and you know what God did to him. He put him inside the forest for seven years. When he regained his senses, he knew that God Almighty is one. You cannot rob him of his glory. King Herod did it. By merely saying, “the voice you people are hearing is God’s” he was struck down. If you are very conversant with the Bible, you know what happened to him. Or is it Pharaoh who died under the Red Sea? So, there is nobody who can say this man is God and that person will live. But right from the onset, Leader O. O. Obu had declared that he’s the Sole Spiritual Head of the Universe. Sole Spiritual Head, not carnal. The world has confirmed that Leader O. O. Obu is the head of all principalities. He’s the head of the secret societies. He’s the head of juju. Who do you think is the head of principalities except God and Christ?

If he’s truly God, why is he not convincing people, so that we can all accept him?
Everything has its time. That time will come when he reveals himself to the whole world. But now, he’s just coming one by one.

When will that be?
Nobody knows the time except he himself. If I tell you that in 2010 or 2011 the father will reveal himself to the whole world, I am a liar. But all I know is that he’s here and he’s doing his work gradually by transforming human beings unto himself.

You also don’t believe that Christ will appear in heaven?
Those expecting Christ to come from heaven will be disappointed because he will not come in that form.

But that’s what the Bible says
I have told you that the Bible is coded. You need to be spiritually minded to decode those messages. When our Lord Jesus Christ said you have to eat my flesh and drink my blood, that whoever does not eat his flesh and drink his blood cannot live, the Jews were confused. They wondered how this man said we should drink his blood and eat his flesh. They had to run away. They dispersed, saying this man was really a demon. But do you think that Christ is talking about these natural blood and flesh? He was talking about the word of God. And you know that without parables, he will not speak because as at that time they were not spiritually mature. He was just teaching them according to the time, according to the circumstances, according to their own capability of reasoning.

That is why he defines everything. He said when the time comes; the spirit of truth will come and lead you to the accurate knowledge of God. If he had told them that they should not drink, he would have contradicted himself because he turned water to wine for them to drink during the wedding feast. If he goes back to say don’t drink, people will say, ‘you were the one that turned water to wine.’

When Paul told Timothy, because Timothy was complaining of stomach ache every day, he said: ‘Okay, Timothy between me and you take more wine everyday for the sake of your stomach.’ Has the world not capitalised on just that statement to drink? They will tell you that Timothy, in his days, took more wine. He drank. People will even tell you that Jesus turned water to wine.

Do your members take alcohol?
The father has taught us not to take anything corked, anything fermented. Whether soft or hard, we don’t take it. We don’t take anything at all, whether alcoholic or non-alcoholic. All we take is water.

Not even cola drinks?
Brotherhood is not a church. It is the kingdom of God, which we pray for. In the Lord’s Prayer, we pray, ‘God, let thy kingdom come.’ That is why Christians cannot comprehend the Brotherhood because what we are doing must be different from what others are doing. You must distance yourself from what the world is practising. So we don’t take anything except water. Members of Brotherhood are vegetarians. We don’t take meat; anything that crawls, that swims or flies, we don’t take it. Yet the world accuses us as Dracula; that we suck blood.

When has it become a sin to eat meat?
When God created the world, he sanctioned everything and said everything he created was good. Even mosquitoes are good; millipedes are good; everything is good. In the Garden of Eden, Adam did not eat all these things we are eating today, that was why he was able to live for 930 years. Look at the way people are dying, like chicken today. It’s as a result of what they eat. Whoever kills must be killed. It is unfortunate that we now interpret that word ‘kill’ to be restricted to human beings. It covers God’s creation because He said Thou shall not kill, including mosquitoes.

The mosquito has a peculiar assignment from God. Have you taken time to ask why God created the mosquito?
Do you think God was a fool to have created the mosquito? If not for the mosquito, the Whites who came to invade us must have succeeded in capturing us, like they did in South Africa. It was the mosquitoes that chased them away. Even the housefly is good. You shouldn’t kill it. The moment you see the house fly, it’s telling you that something is bad, that something is rotten somewhere. It’s giving you a signal to keep your environment clean. All these things have duties. So in Brotherhood, we don’t kill anything, yet the world says we are a secret society. We don’t suck blood. The world doesn’t even know those who suck blood. It is those in the medical circle that suck blood. They even have blood bank. They even have blood tonic, which people drink. Yet, we don’t drink any of these things and they call us names.

Is it true that your members don’t take drugs?
No we don’t. In Brotherhood, we don’t take any drugs, not a single tablet. I came to Brotherhood in 1985. Since that time till now I’ve never taken any drugs, not even when I was in Europe. Even when I get sick, I allow the father to do his work. That is faith. You said you have faith in Christ but you must take drugs when you are sick; so what kind of faith is that? Faith in drugs? Faith in what you see? So that is why everybody is against Brotherhood. The medical doctors will even organize a campaign that they should tell the world that Brotherhood is a secret society. The love-peddler will not even want to hear the teachings of Brotherhood. The father says, if you cannot control your sexual urge, marry one wife. But if you can control yourself, stay without marriage.

Like I am now, I am not married and I don’t intend to get married at all. I don’t intend to have children. It is not my calling. I don’t envy people with wives or families because it is not my business. And I am not condemning them because those people are doing what God ordained for them. Everybody cannot get married and everybody cannot stay without getting married. Jesus was single. John the Baptist was single. Paul was single. In Brotherhood, divorce is not an option. Whether you discover that your wife is a witch or a thief, you cannot divorce her. The only thing that can separate you is death. Even if the woman goes to fornicate, we are told to love and forgive, love will cover the iniquity. Christ said we should forgive 70 times seven times in a day. Can one woman commit adultery 490 times in a day? That is the cardinal point in the teachings of Leader O. O. Obu. Love. That is why he doesn’t get angry even at the abuse and the insults people hurl at him every day.

What do you do when you have sexual urge?
No. I can’t lower my spiritual identity because of that.

Aren’t you tempted at all?
You may be tempted. But the Holy Spirit in you will . . .

But do you sometimes have sexual urge?
I cannot even remember when last I had the urge because that is not my priority any more. So the urge is no longer there because that is the major cause of our problem today. Today, you see the churches packed full with members but the Holy Spirit is not there, because of fornication. So if you know these things will hinder the work of God, why deceiving yourself? Am I a small boy? But can you deceive God? No. You will end up deceiving yourself. Fornication is what has ruined the work of God and we have to stay clear of it if this work has to go on because the field is now wide.

http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/features/living/2010/mar/13/living-03-13-2010-003.htm

OLAADEGBU:
Identifying Antichrists

"Little children, it is the last time:

and as [size=14pt]ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists[/size];

whereby we know that it is the last time." (1 John 2:18)

Evangelicals expect "the" Antichrist to be revealed in the future, yet there are more warnings about "many" antichrists who are currently and actively plotting evil. 

John lists [size=14pt]two specific identifying factors[/size] that enable us [size=14pt]to spot these "anti" Christs[/size].

"Who is a liar [/b]but he [b]that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son" (1 John 2:22).

"And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist . . .
and even now already is it in the world" (1 John 4:3).

This much is clear.  Anyone who refuses to accept the incarnated Christ as the Son of God is anti-Christ.  Perhaps we need to see this term in its simplicity. 

Those who are "anti" Christ (oppose, reject, against, opposite to, before, instead of, in place of) are antichrists!

Peter warns that false prophets and false teachers are also "anti" Christ--and that they may well come from among the Lord’s visible Kingdom.

"But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you,

who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction" (2 Peter 2:1).

Thus, we are told that Satan's "ministers also |are| transformed as the ministers of righteousness" (2 Corinthians 11:15). 

No wonder we should have caution.  This is the last time (days) and we need to be alert!  HMM III

@OLAADEGBU

The distinction between the antichrist and antichrists etc . . .

Gbam!

Teach Teacher!!

Dont knock him down when he is teaching good

OLAADEGBU:
How do you read? 

Ogaga is only a small fry who is just one of the anti-christs that are in the world. 

Anyone that is against Christ is an anti-christ and there are many of them in the world today of which he is one. 

I often wonder whether he has something in common with the so called lady gaga or not. 

Ogaga may or not be gay going by the picture in his profile, he is in the best position to tell you his sexuality,

but a[b]s long as it goes against Christs' teaching you will see the antichrists there[/b].

"Little children, it is the last time: and as [size=16pt]ye have heard that antichrist shall come[/size],
[size=16pt]even now are there many antichrists[/size]; whereby we know that it is the last time." -- 1 John 2:18

There is one Antichrist being prepared by satan himself

whom the Bible calls the man of Perdition, the man of sin, the wicked or the little horn in 2 Thess. 2:1-12; Daniel 7:8,24; 8:9,23. 

This is the one that I am referring to as a homosexual (Check it out if you are a Bible scholar)

and its most likely that he is in the world today as we speak.

@OLAADEGBU

Teach on teacher!

Wasnt it also said the Antichrist will be blind in one eye?

possibly having or wearing a fake eye?

Maybe born blind in one eye or had an eye accident that the general public arent aware off except a few?

. . . 'evidence the Devil is in the Vatican', says Pope's chief exorcist

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^{Vigilent: Father Amorth
is the Vatican's head exorcist}

Child intimacy abuse scandals rocking the Catholic Church are evidence of the Devil's presence in the Vatican, the Pope's chief exorcist said yesterday.

Father Gabriel Amorth, 84, who has carried out more than 70,000 exorcisms in a career spanning 24 years said Pope Benedict 'fully agreed' with him in 'casting out evil'.

The Catholic church has been rocked in recent months by a series of intimacy scandals in Ireland, Holland and most recently Germany, where even the Pope's brother Georg Ratzinger admitted hitting choir boys.

In his interview with La Repubblica newspaper Father Amorth, on who the Devil fighting priest in hit horror movie The Exorcist is based, said: 'His Holiness fully believes in casting out evil.

'The Devil lives in the Vatican. He has won over the confidences of people but naturally its difficult to find proof but the consequences are visible.

'We have cardinals who don't believe in Christ, bishops connected with demons. Then we have these stories of pedophilia. You can see the rot when we speak of Satan's smoke in the holy rooms (of the Vatican).'

Father Amorth gave his interview as part of a book launch for Italian religious affairs journalist Marco Tosatti who has written 'Memoirs of an Exorcist'.

Father Amorth said:' 'The Devil is invisible, he is a pure spirit. But in the people he possesses he can be seen through pain and blasphemies but he can also remain hidden.

'Sometimes he makes fun of me but I have to say I enjoy my work.'

He added how he had 'six or seven assistants' to help him hold down possessed people when he carried out exorcism and that he kept ''nails and glass that they spit out in a little bag.

'From the mouths of the possessed people all sorts of things come out, bits of metal as long as a finger, rose petals.

'I have to have help holding them down and wiping up the saliva but seeing these people vomit doesn't upset me' . . .

To read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1257119/Catholic-intimacy-abuse-scandals-evidence-Devil-Vatican-says-Popes-chief-exorcist.html#ixzz0hum5mguu

DaviDylan:
Perhaps this - 1 Tim 2

¹¹ Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.

¹² But I suffer not [size=16pt][color=Black]a woman[/color][/size] to teach, nor to usurp authority [color=Black][size=14pt]over [/size][size=18pt]the man[/size][/color], but to be in silence.

Perhaps this, not . . .

The man here is/are the husband(s), not other men . . .

Authors or writers have distinctive, individual and peculiar ways of writing.

Closer home MrCrackles, AbuZola, Ogaga4luv, JeSoul, Pastor AIO, Mama-gee, KunleOshob, Huxley, OLAADEGBU, Tpia, Olabowale, Aloy+Emeka etc

are typical examples, to name a few . . .

Moses, Paul, King Solomon (i.e. Ecclesiastes) etc in the Bible are no exceptions.

The key is to identify their "modus operandi" writing manner (i.e. how they write, the way they write etc)

Becoming privy to Paul's style, makes it easier to comprehend, understand and grasp his writings or messages.

This idea particularly goes for (i.e. applicable to) 1 Cor. 14:34; a well-known accomplice in crime of 1 Timothy 2:11-12

Paul's mockery is noticeable in 1 Cor. 14:34 when it is read in context of the whole chapter and not singly as a weapon verse.

Unawared, those not in the know, misogynists and the likes enjoy brandishing these verses unmoved concerning women.

noetic16:
what has your nice OP got to do with sunday offerings?

^^^

I guess today been Sunday, the OP's Sunday offering to whoever wants to avail is the freebie appending the post

i.e. the Download free copy of "You Too Can Succeed - in 60 minutes"

Unfeasible In Naija, Easily Done In Egypt Without Qualms
« on: Yesterday at 01:23:47 AM »

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-408805.0.html#msg5636642

toba:
There are many thread on this topic which is already opened on NL

. . . and so?

Isnt this a FYI video. Whats your gripe about?

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Who Created God? Where Did God Come From? Proof of God
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Egyptian president hands over power to Prime Minister

Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak has temporarily handed over power while he undergoes gall bladder surgery.

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^{Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak}

Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, [/b]81, has [b]handed presidential powers temporarily to his prime minister while he undergoes surgery on his gall bladder, state television reported.

Prime Minister Ahmad Nazif would run the country until Mr Mubarak returned.

It said the surgery would take place on Saturday morning.

Mr Mubarak, who on Thursday gave a joint news conference with German Chancellor Angela Merkel, had also temporarily delegated power to Prime Minister Ahmed Nazif in 2004 when he had back surgery.

Mr Mubarak has ruled the North African country since October 1981.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/7380465/Egyptian-president-hands-over-power-to-Prime-Minister.html

Davidylan:
He has not directed anyone to do so in 6000 yrs . . . He isnt going to start now just for whiteroses's sake.

Besides it seems NONE OF YOU even read her post. She had plans to go for a tattoo long long ago, she was only looking for religious justification for it.

We dont need to see it in black and white, its there.

At no time did I pay much attention to your posts until you decided to make a mountain out of a molehill (i.e. trying to pick out one statement [irrelevant to the thread] and prove your own oversabi).

We dont have to be on the same side . . . you make your point, I make mine. Story over.

I didnt ever bring up leviticus here . . . wonder why you suddenly thot you could preach that to me all of a sudden.

@Davidylan

I sussed her miles a far which is why before the below quote

I advised her to work on her relationship with the Father

and continue with her walking with the Lord for a revelation etc

Then someone dropped in Leviticus 19 that almost all jumped on the back of etc etc

I had gone through her past posts right across NL to figure out where she is coming from before responding her

This whole thing isnt about religious justification but rather relationship

I'll pause and reserve further comments . . .

e36991:
Trust Whiteroses to open up a can of worms and passing it round

Am not summing up Whiteroses by her past posts across NL but then . . .

its kinda like she's pulling wool over someone's eyes here

I laugh in &*^%$£" Ha-aaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!

and hey check out brethrens and sisters falling for it

falling all over each other trivialising tattoo

At the end of the day as I earlier mentioned, its a personal choice

(i.e. left until the meeting with the Maker to determine whether this particular tattoo was His will)

I believe all that was made was good yet gets abused (e.g. pain, death, tattoo etc)

There are righteous tattoos (i.e. cuttings); evidence of this abounds in the scriptures (i.e. ascribed by God)

and conversely there are unrighteous tattoos

Incidentally tattos nowadays often the case than not is usually a mark of rebellion and all for questionable or wrong reasons

Davidylan:
and here we go with misquoting the bible to justify just about anything under heaven. 

Is 49:15 Can a woman forget her sucking child, that she should not have compassion on the son of her womb? yea, they may forget, yet will I not forget thee.
16 Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands; thy walls are continually before me.

Lets assume we should read this verses LITERARILY as e36991 has suggested . . . it means Christ has got billions of tattoos on the palm of his hands . . . and we are walls too!

Read this - Prov 3:3 Let not mercy and truth forsake thee: bind them about thy neck; write them upon the table of thine heart:

your heart is also a physical tablet that you can write on?

@Davidylan

What are you like, eh?

This topic hasnt got anything to do with me, so quit grinding your axe with me . . .

The scripture wasnt misquoted but referred to as in making a point about righteous tattooing (i.e. one by God and not man)

As the owner of our bodies, only God can direct one to tattoo or mark one's body,

which is why I advised Whiteroses to seek God whether it's His will for her to have a tattoo or marking

Unlike in the OT that we have references against marking the body, there are none in the NT

Nonetheless a true son or daughter ought to know the will of the Father

And I will say again, for the uptenth time, I dont subscribe to, justify, advocate or lobby for tattooing

so with all due respects back off with your santimonious claptrap and stop making a mountain out of a molehill

We are on the same side - I am not the enemy

Davidylan:
Dumb. Concubines were permissible under the old law . . . shld we still have them now albeit "in moderation"?

Tattoos were NEVER permitted under the old law.

So what was your analogy about?

hmm the first two points are basically meaningless and are not mainstream medical practice at all. your third point is basically reconstructive surgery under the guise of tattooing.

Besides all those cases you mentioned are NOT equivalent to the type of permanent tattooing we see today that involves destroying the dermis (which is why they are permanent in the first place).

You still have yet to prove where tattoos have any medical effect to the body.

Not according to the bible . . . albeit in the language of man - there is also righteous smoking and unrighteous smoking too. You can bend the bible all you want, it will say anything you want it to say as long as your main interest is to justify sin.

I dont know if you have me confused with someone else. NOT ONCE did I raise the tattoo issue in leviticus.

You may want to refer this to those who talked about the law concerning tattooing. I have no interest in taking up irrelevant talking points.

@Davidylan

Dumb? Dumb ke?

Yeee! E gba mi ooo!! See me, see trouble ooo!!! This is rich, thanks a bunch, e se gan 

If God can say He's tattooed Zion on both His palms by deduction we can say there is a righteous tattoo

Personally I dont subscribe to tattooing and dont look down on tattooists

All I know is that all unrighteousness is sin

At the end of the day, if its the Lord's express will for me to tattoo; who am I to drag my feet?

I'll tattoo pronto to His delight,

Davidylan:
To start with, tattoos have no known medical value . . .

Infact many permanent tattoos do extensive damage to the dermis (second layer of the skin) leaving many (especially whites) prone to melanomas.

God does know what He was doing when He frowned on tattooing . . .

your mention of the word moderation set me chuckling to myself.

Would you advocate smoking in "moderation" too?

I'd love to get me some concubines . . . in moderation of course. Who knows . . .

I just might be using this to "infiltrate" those chics "avoided" by society.

I cant afford to appear "myopic" no?

@Davidylan

You make guffaw in %$)&£*^"$* Ah-ha-ha-ha!!!

Of course, you know what I mean concerning moderation

Moderation in what is permissible. Are you permitted to have concubines? Huh?

Or is it a case of out of the heart the hand typed mouth speaketh

" . . . tattoos have no known medical value . . . " you asserted

I give you more credit than that, why slipping?

FYI concerning medical value of tattoo

A medical tattoo is a tattoo used to show the illnesses or allergetic reactions one has. Medical tattoos can be used for a number of reasons:

    * As a warning that a patient suffers from a chronic disease that can exacerbate suddenly and that will require immediate specialist treatment. One example is in the case of congenital adrenal hyperplasia, in which patients may need steroid replacement therapy during ordinary illness.

    * As an aid in radiotherapy. In order to minimize damage to surrounding tissues, the radiotherapist seeks to keep the irradiated field as small as possible. Marking a number of points on the body with tattoos can aid radiotherapists in adjusting the beam properly.

    * During bosom reconstruction after mastectomy (removal of the bosom for treatment of cancer), or bosom reduction surgery. Tattooing is sometimes used to replace the areola which has been removed during mastectomy, or to fill in areas of pigment loss which may occur during bosom reduction performed with a free unmentionable graft technique.

Source? Here

As I earlier mentioned there is righteous tattoing and unrighteous tattoing

We need to understand the context surrounding the commandment on tattoo in that chapter

Are you adhering to all the Mosaic laws and/or Leviticus chapter 19 in its entirety?

For example do you always rise in the presence of the aged, show respect for the elderly?

Or do you refrain from wearing clothing woven of two kinds of materials? (e.g. a polyester & cotton shirt)

I bet you love your shrimps, lobsters, prawns, cat fish, crabs the list goes on . . .  

What's God's take on those sire?

Davidylan:
Its stunningly simple . . . anytime you do something . . . stop and ask yourself - how does this project Christ in me. If getting a tattoo makes you the light of the gospel shinning on a hill then by all means get your whole body tattooed.

Paul wouldnt eat meat with some, not because there was a commandment not to eat meat served up to idols but so that he wouldnt project an image that doesnt glorify the gospel which he preached.

Ask yourself . . . when my friends see my tattoo, does it cause them to think about salvation and eternity? Or does it cause them to clap me on the back and admire my own stamp of identification with the world?

@Davidylan

Haba!! Whole body ke?

What about the notion, moderation?

If your life depends on having a tattoo to cure a medical impasse

wouldnt you oblige a tattoo glorifying God or His Kingdom  to preserve or save your life, huh?

PS Whiteroses is still on "spiritual milk" so go easy with the chastenings

Trust Whiteroses to open up a can of worms and passing it round

Am not summing up Whiteroses by her past posts across NL but then . . .

its kinda like she's pulling wool over someone's eyes here

I laugh in &*^%$£" Ha-aaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!

and hey check out brethrens and sisters falling for it

falling all over each other trivialising tattoo

At the end of the day as I earlier mentioned, its a personal choice

(i.e. left until the meeting with the Maker to determine whether this particular tattoo was His will)

I believe all that was made was good yet gets abused (e.g. pain, death, tattoo etc)

There are righteous tattoos (i.e. cuttings); evidence of this abounds in the scriptures (i.e. ascribed by God)

and conversely there are unrighteous tattoos

Incidentally tattos nowadays often the case than not is usually a mark of rebellion and all for questionable or wrong reasons

OLAADEGBU:
It looks as if you have already made up your mind to get a tattoo done but you are just looking for confirmation. 

If getting the tattoo is stronger than your love for God then you will probably do it

but if you are willing to listen and obey God because of your love for Him then you will steer clear of any form of tattoo

because it is making blood covenant with the enemy of God.

Debosky at OLAADEGBU:
Can you explain how you came about this claim?

@Debosky

I think OLAADEGBU is drawing a parallel with the ancient practice of tattoing for the dead's sake

but then I'll let him have the honours of responding back himself

PS: Whiteroses was clever in parading that the tattoo is going to be a tattoo of the Lord's Prayer

(i.e. the model prayer Yeshua used to teach the disciples how to pray)

Whiteroses:
Eh Chineke what am I seeing 

[NEW UPDATE]: Only reply if you are a neutral easy going christian. No hardcore opinion

Thank you

@Whiteroses

I kinda figured you're a neutral easy going christian 

which is why I didnt fan scripture(s) in your face

but rather advised that you personally work out the answer yourself

At the end of the day, at the appointed time, we'll all explain all our actions and/or make account of all our deeds

Whiteroses:
I wanted a tattoo and decides I'll get it when am 21.

but then I became more deep in Christianity last month

and now I feel like getting the Lord's prayer in ancient italics design on my upper back, on the left side.

Is tattoo a sin cos I feel as though am mocking God, should I as well be bad and get a random design tattoo then.

Do you know what I mean? Like if the Lord doesn't like tattoo i'm getting it anyway cos even my mum has it,

but should I leave the Bible out of this or it doesnt matter?

I feel like those illuminati rapper always shouting Jesus in their rap lines therefore mocking him in vain.

Thanks

@Whiteroses

For starters didnt realise you are yet 21

Anyway "Am I a hypocrite? . . ."  you asked

Well if inwardly you're evil but outwardly you profess to be virtuous, then you could be a hypocrite.

The question to ask should be "Is it necessary to have a tattoo in order to identify with God?"

The tattoo issue is a personal one; one betwen you and your Maker,

- it is a choice of which you'll have to live with the consequence,(s) if any, surely there are/will be

The Mum excuse is a lame one;

- would you jump off a skycraper just because your mum without any logical reason earlier jumped off

Work on your relationship with the Father,

continue walking with Him to know His will (i.e. the answer to your query(ies))

The revelation will surely come . . .

By the way concerning "Is tattoo a sin . . . " note that any unrighteousness is sin

Jagunlabi:
How do you realistically expect anybody to know the answer to this question?

A person has to die first before he/she knows what is going on on the other side, no?

Any opinion offered by anyone say here is based on mere guesswork.

@FMK

Scriptures: Psalm 146:3-5

Amplified Bible (AMP)

³Put not your trust in Jagunlabi princes, in a son of man, in whom there is no help.

⁴When his breath leaves him, he returns to his earth; in that very day his [previous] thoughts, plans, and purposes perish.

⁵Happy (blessed, fortunate, enviable) is he who has the God of [special revelation to] Jacob for his help, whose hope is in the Lord his God,

Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

³Trust not in Jagunlabi princes -- in a son of man, For he hath no deliverance.

⁴His spirit goeth forth, he returneth to his earth, In that day have his thoughts perish[/b]ed.

⁵[b]O the happiness of him Who hath the God of Jacob for his help, His hope [is] on Jehovah his God,

Deep Sight:
What is Judgement?

@Deep Sight

Mildly or crudely put judgment is synonymous with the process used in arriving at how "things" end up in the proverbial trash can.

Examples of  "things" maybe an incorrectly written draft memo, ripped clothes etc

Dont you judge?

What were you doing when you arrived at the decision to put on the shirt or buba you have on now

as opposed to still wearing the last one you had on prior to the change?

FMK:
Christians  and  Muslims 

I am really wondering till now about this fact, we born we die, we do not know where we come from and where we go when  we die 

We are buried, our body turns to dust,  we were innocently born without our own feelings     What really happens

@FMK

After death one is kept or held in a "holding area" awaiting judgment . . .

Scriptures: Hebrews 9:27

New International Version (NIV)

Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment,

Amplified Bible (AMP)

And just as it is appointed for [all] men once to die, and after that the [certain] judgment,

Contemporary English Version (CEV)

We die only once, and then we are judged.

King James Version (KJV)

And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

aisha2:
Please, where are all the men hiding na? It seems the only two people with any balls in Nigeria now are Turai and Dora.

My guys how far na?

@OP

They might be MIA on the political front but not from the pulpit

His balls arent "felele" but made of leather, if not steel . . . 

http://www.saharareporters.com/reports/exclusive/5313-the-state-of-the-nation-broadcast-by-pastor-tunde-bakare.html

Defrauding in God’s name
By Sun News Publishing
Sunday, February 28, 2010

The recent conviction of one Pastor Michael Inyang and four others, for fraud, by a Lagos High Court clearly attests to the surreal twists in the lives of some religious preachers who defraud their flock in the name of God. The soothing balm in this particular incident is that in the end, the long arm of the law caught up with the fraudsters.

Pastor Inyang, who runs a church known as Christian Millionaire Club located in Lagos, and four members of the church, were last month sentenced to various jail terms by Justice Olubunmi Oyewole. They were found guilty on all 17 charges against them by the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC). Pastor Inyang was sentenced to four years imprisonment.

Their conviction is typical of the saying that whatever a man sows, he reaps.

There has always been this ringing, yet unheeded message that religious leaders should strive at all times to lead by example. But painfully, many of them lead a conceited and deceitful life. They defraud their flock under false pretences, albeit in God’s name. Indeed, this has become one of the biggest challenges religion faces today. Many of those entrusted with the teaching of God’s word have lost the moral high ground to pontificate to the rest of their congregation, so much so that many of them are no better than “wolves in sheep’s clothing.”

According to reports, Pastor Inyang had since 2006 used the name of God to persuade his victims, all members of his church, to part with their money. They were assured of a “bountiful harvest” both here on earth and in heaven. Part of Inyang’s trickery was to lie to his flock that his millionaire club is affiliated to a renowned Christian body in the United States. In that regard, he told his victims that whatever they contributed as either offering or tithes would be rewarded in manifold terms, beyond their imagination before the end of year. Many believed him and some reportedly sold their choice property and emptied the proceeds to the club. Some allegedly borrowed money from banks and invested it in the club.

Pastor Inyang’s life was said to have suddenly changed for the better, as he was reported to have moved from his one-room apartment in Egbeda, a suburb of Lagos, to a duplex in a choice area in Lagos Mainland. Then followed a string of state of the art cars to match his new status. But it was not for too long as his transgression was exposed by his victims, who had petitioned the EFCC on how they were duped in the name of God. The graft agency moved in in 2007 and, after completing investigation into the matter, arraigned the suspects before Justice Oyewole who found them guilty as charged.

We commend both Justice Oyewole and the EFCC. Surely, there are a lot of phoney preachers lurking all over the place looking for flock to deceive. Indeed, the number of such “religious leaders” who are lusting after the wallets of their members rather than striving to save their souls has assumed a frightening dimension. We urge both the judiciary and the EFCC to crackdown on such fake preachers. We also caution Nigerians who easily fall victim to fake religious leaders like Inyang. Nigerians need to change their mindset about wealth. In most cases, our belief system and get-rich-quick mentality make many worshippers pliable and easy to manipulate. Money is good, but we must be careful not fall prey to fraudsters, including those dubiously operating in God’s name.

http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/opinion/editorial/2010/feb/28/editorial-28-02-2010-001.htm

For the first time in its 2000 years history
the Catholic Church acknowledged the possibilities that intelligent life could exist on other planets
and that a belief in extra terrestrials do not contradict a belief in God

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Zodiac61:
Why don't you just get a life. Scrutinizing lyrics for blasphemy and quoting them out of context. What next? So what if the man disses Jesus? If Jesus is god, as you claim, surely he can fight his own battles.

@^

Dont get your knickers in a twist

Who talked about battles

It was a FYI for whom it concerns

You sir certainly dont give a monkey

They're mostly all on it with subtleness. . .

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mama-gee:
That's why most people detest rap music and rappers themselves
If you go through the lyrics of rap verses, you'll notice a lot of foul language
and  offensive things being said, I'm even getting tired of listening to them.

@^

Not many people are conscious of what they're hearing

Watch Jay-Z singing "'Evils" on his Reasonable Doubt album

Video has the lyrics.

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