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nuclearboy:

what is "COG"?

@Nuke

Quite a few where Ogajim is

Due to time zone difference Ogajim cant respond promptly

but guess whose come to the rescue . . .

COG is an acronym for Church of God

It is a name used by quite a few but mostly unrelated Christian denominational bodies in the States.

They are usually of a pentecostal, adventist, baptist etc nature or background . . .

Had a few of Herbert W. Armstrong's books

- Back in the day, I just spit out the bones when I ate his chicken

Jenwitemi:

Three quick questions;

1)Why was the bible god such an asshole in those days?

2)Is he still an asshole, or has he been finally deposed?

3)When is he going to come down to this earth and die for his old screw-ups sins?

There are qite a number of people here who would like to get their hands on him and do him many many things.

@Jenwitemi

"No oofeinse", as my good friend Mr Cork aka MrCrackles would say,

but it takes an a$$wipe to know or recognise an a$$hole. Pfft!

You ought, really, need to wake up and smell the coffee

He's already been down and died.

Died for sins, including your sins ironically

Quite a few people had their dreams and wishes come true

Yeah, almost two thousand years ago, "they got their hands on him and did him many many things"

[quote author=Isaiah 53:3-5; 7-8 BBE]<sup>BBE is Bible in Basic English

3</sup>Men made sport of him, turning away from him; he was a man of sorrows, marked by disease; and like one from whom men's faces are turned away, he was looked down on, and we put no value on him.

⁴But it was our pain he took, and our diseases were put on him: while to us he seemed as one diseased, on whom God's punishment had come.

⁵But it was for our sins he was wounded, and for our evil doings he was crushed: he took the punishment by which we have peace, and by his wounds we are made well.

⁷Men were cruel to him, but he was gentle and quiet; as a lamb taken to its death, and as a sheep before those who take her wool makes no sound, so he said not a word.

⁸They took away from him help and right, and who gave a thought to his fate? for he was cut off from the land of the living: he came to his death for the sin of my people.[/quote]

[quote author=*666* link=topic=562684.msg7276008#msg7276008 date=1291564551]
WHAT EVER QUESTION THAT BOARDERS YOU.

WEATHER CREATION OR PRE- CREATION (FOR I WAS THERE)

JUST ASK AND YOU WILL GET AN ANSWER .

I AM SERIOUS!!!!!!
[/quote]@^^^

1) How are question borders removed?
2) How is weather created?

Joagbaje:

We should understand the perspective of my exhortation.

There is difference between the fear for God.

It is a fear of reverence and not a negative fear of torment. A man may feel fear negatively, that's why God always say " fear not"

e36991:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-562516.0.html#msg7274845

@Joagbaje

Good call in highlighting the danger of not using fear the right way, the right time and still be on God's right side whilst using it

On the contrary afraid is not the devil's language but a word the devil exploits with delight to the hilt

Afraid is a state; a condition; anxiety; a feeling, a distressing emotion etc

brought about by a real or imagined threat, impending danger, evil, pain, inferior complex, low self-esteem, lack etc

It is a situation that the devil will exploit to an advantage. Part of one of the strategies the devil uses to reinforce a grip on a hold . . .

As a matter of fact God would rather we confess a destination and not confess a disadvantaged situation . . .

The devil basks in fear but God rather basks in faith . . .

Undoubtedly we have a time and place to fear . . .

@Joagbaje

. . . you have been credited for the encouragement

The distinctions were noted too

Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us

so no room for fear (i.e. the negative fear) - a defeatist's vocabulary

tpia1:

ps 56:3

When I'm afraid, I will trust in you

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%2056:%203&version=NIRV

@^^^

Trust. Exactly what the Shunammite woman did (i.e. 2 Kings 4:17-20; 24-26 KJV)

Trust and faith . . .

Joagbaje:

We contantly hear  words such as "I'm afraid our time is up" or " I'm afraid [/b]that's all we can take today"

Does it sound familiar to you? We are surrounded with such statement from time to time. Broadcasters use it , some preachers use it.

We feel it sounds polite . But it's a wrong use of tongue. There are several things the enemy has programmed in our daily life.

He operates by fear and tries to saturate our lives with it. Fear is of the devil .

Your life goes in the direction of your speakings. Words are spirits and not mere sounds.

[b]Ephesians 4:29
29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers. 

So why is the talk of fear a corrupt communication? Because fear is not of God.

2 Timothy 1:7
7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

The tongue naturally may go negative , especially if you grow up in an atmosphere where such wrong language is a norm.  It may be a little challenging to tame the tongue at first.

James 3:8
8 But the tongue can no man tame;[ it is] an unruly evil, full of deadly poison

But that doesn't mean it's not possible to tame the tongue. The more you fellowship with the Word of God on daily basis , the more your tongue and language is transformed 

James 3:2
2 We all stumble in many ways. If anyone is never at fault in what he says, he is a perfect man, able to keep his whole body in check. 

One sure way to know you're growing as a Christian is  to WATCH YOUR TONGUE!

Instead of using the devils language "I'm afraid it's time to close" why not simply say "it's time to close" or  If you want to add some courtesy or politeness. Just say I'm sorry, its time to close." I think it's time to close" " sorry, I got to go"  

Colossians 4:6
6 Let your speech[ be] alway with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man.
 

@Joagbaje

Good call in highlighting the danger of not using fear the right way, the right time and still be on God's right side whilst using it

On the contrary afraid is not the devil's language but a word the devil exploits with delight to the hilt

Afraid is a state; a condition; anxiety; a feeling, a distressing emotion etc

brought about by a real or imagined threat, impending danger, evil, pain, inferior complex, low self-esteem, lack etc

It is a situation that the devil will exploit to an advantage. Part of one of the strategies the devil uses to reinforce a grip on a hold.

As a matter of fact God would rather we confess a destination and not confess a disadvantaged situation

Remember Elisha and the Shunammite woman (i.e. 2 Kings 4:17-20; 24-26 KJV)

The Shunammite woman's son died but when asked what was wrong she confessed her destination (i.e. where she wants or needs to be)

She confessed her destiny. “Everything is all right,” she said

“Everything is all right,” was truly alright because at the end Elisha prayed to the Lord and handed the boy alive back to the Shunammite woman.

The devil basks in fear but God rather basks in faith

[quote author=2 Kings 4:17-20; 24-26 KJV]
¹⁷But the woman became pregnant, and the next year about that same time she gave birth to a son, just as Elisha had told her.

¹⁸The child grew, and one day he went out to his father, who was with the reapers.

¹⁹“My head! My head!” he said to his father.

His father told a servant, “Carry him to his mother.”

²⁰After the servant had lifted him up and carried him to his mother, the boy sat on her lap until noon, and then he died.

²⁴She saddled the donkey and said to her servant, “Lead on; don’t slow down for me unless I tell you.”

²⁵So she set out and came to the man of God at Mount Carmel.

When he saw her in the distance, the man of God said to his servant Gehazi, “Look! There’s the Shunammite!

²⁶Run to meet her and ask her, ‘Are you all right? Is your husband all right? Is your child all right?’”

“Everything is all right,” she said.
[/quote]Undoubtedly we have a time and place to fear . . .

[quote author=Deuteronomy 10:12 KJV]
And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God,
to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,
[/quote][quote author=Proverbs 1:7 KJV]
The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of knowledge . . .
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aletheia:

^^Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. <<John 5:39>>


A great truth that a lot of us ignore. Since I understood that the Scriptures from Genesis to Revelation are about Jesus; it has opened up new vistas of understanding for me.
In our study of the scriptures; too often we leave off looking at and considering the Heavenly Man and instead focus on self: hence the rise of the "prosperity" gospel
Consider how it must have felt during Jesus' exposition of the scriptures concerning himself.

And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself. <<Luke 24:27>>

And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight. And they said one to another,
Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures? [Luke 24:31-32]

My prayer is that the Holy Spirit will open to us the scriptures in a powerful way.

@^^^

To you sire, my fellow lord, I doff my crown hat . . .

You are a giant among men . . .

[quote author=Proverbs 25:2 KJV][It is] the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings [is] to search out a matter.[/quote]

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[quote author=John 14:26 BBE]But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will be your teacher in all things and will put you in mind of everything I have said to you.[/quote][quote author=John 16:13 BBE]However, when he, the Spirit of true knowledge, has come, he will be your guides into all true knowledge:
for his words will not come from himself, but whatever has come to his hearing, that he will say: and he will makes clear to you the things to come.[/quote][quote author=1 Corinthians 2:10 BBE]But God has given us the revelation of these things through his Spirit, for the Spirit makes searches into all things, even the deep things of God
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[quote author=Otoks asked "Is It A Sin For A Christian To Drink Alcohol?" link=topic=562108.msg7269256#msg7269256 date=1291449127]
please, what is biblical standard on alcohol.

Have read different article on this topic but am not yet convinced.

Let me hear your view.
[/quote]@Otoks

Otoks, "no oofeinse", as my good friend Mr Cork aka MrCrackles would say

but really this is tantamount to a destitute of knowledge

- Haba, one still does see when one is crying now. Bible? Read the book naaa!

Please recognise the distinction between DRINK and DRUNK

Drinking alcohol per se is not a sin

The rule of thumb is, if you cant stand the heat, stay away from the kitchen

If you cant handle drink (i.e. can't stay sober with full control of your faculties) then lay off the bottle

In moderation and not in excess is the watchword

There are numerous warnings of the consequences of where drinking has gone too far in bible.

Wumine has generously highlighted and provided the experiences

[quote author=Ephesian 5:18 BBE]^{BBE is Bible in Basic English}

And do not take overmuch wine by which one may be overcome, but be full of the Spirit;[/quote]The bible has hinted or would rather you have a Holy Ghost party - i.e. get drunk with the Holy Spirit rather get drunk with wine

Drinking might flip to a sin for a christian, if the christian does a DUI - Driving under the Influence

(i.e. operates a motor vehicle while the blood alcohol content in the body is above the legal limit set by laws of the land)

Zikkyy:

This is great. Tithers dont die young. Methuselah must have been rendering a 100%  

If only half of it was understood

Obviously Methuselah didnt live until 969 years because of tithing

People in the know were checking on Methuselah every morning to glance whether he is still alive or not  

Methusela was the original Fela archetype

Without mincing words Methusela plainly was Anikulapo

Anikulapo literally means "One who carries death in his pocket or pouch"

More of a fact Methuselah means “When he is dead it  shall be sent (i.e. the flood)”

Apparently pandemonium will be let loose when Methuselah lets death out of his pocket or drops dead ^{Drops dead. Like the pun, huh?}

Methuselah knew about the flood. People in the know, knew it, well say 7 or 8 at least were left that knew . . .

[quote author=Genesis 5:3-29 KJV]³And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth:

⁴And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:

⁵And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.

⁶And Seth lived an hundred and five years, and begat Enos:

And Seth lived after he begat Enos eight hundred and seven years, and begat sons and daughters:

⁸And all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years: and he died.

⁹And Enos lived ninety years, and begat Cainan:

¹⁰And Enos lived after he begat Cainan eight hundred and fifteen years, and begat sons and daughters:

¹¹And all the days of Enos were nine hundred and five years: and he died.

¹²And Cainan lived seventy years and begat Mahalaleel:

¹³And Cainan lived after he begat Mahalaleel eight hundred and forty years, and begat sons and daughters:

¹⁴And all the days of Cainan were nine hundred and ten years: and he died.

¹⁵And Mahalaleel lived sixty and five years, and begat Jared:

¹⁶And Mahalaleel lived after he begat Jared eight hundred and thirty years, and begat sons and daughters:

¹⁷And all the days of Mahalaleel were eight hundred ninety and five years: and he died.

¹⁸And Jared lived an hundred sixty and two years, and he[b] begat Enoch[/b]:

¹⁹And Jared lived after he begat Enoch eight hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:

²⁰And all the days of Jared were nine hundred sixty and two years: and he died.

²¹And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah:

²²And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:

²³And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:

²⁴And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

²⁵And Methuselah lived an hundred eighty and seven years, and begat Lamech.

²⁶And Methuselah lived after he begat Lamech seven hundred eighty and two years, and begat sons and daughters:

²⁷And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years: and he died.

²⁸And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son:

²⁹And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground which the LORD hath cursed.[/quote]Hidden in the above geneology is the prophecy of the flood, God's plan of redemption and gift of salvation

Adam in English means Man
Seth in English means Appointed
Enosh in English means Mortal
Kenan in English means Sorrow
Mahalalel in English means The Blessed God
Jared in English means Shall come down
Enoch in English means Teaching
Methuselah in English means His death shall bring
Lamech in English means The despairing
Noah in English means Rest, or comfort

String the names into a sentence

Man > Appointed > Mortal > Sorrow > The Blessed God > Shall come down > Teaching > His death shall bring > The despairing > Rest, or comfort

The divine prophecy: Man Appointed  Mortal  Sorrow. The Blessed God  Shall come down  Teaching. His death shall bring The despairing  Rest or comfort

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nuclearboy:

Isaiah 45 verses 5,6 & 7:

⁵ I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
⁶ That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.
⁷ I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-545999.32.html#msg7104234

In Genesis chapter 1, it is noticed that only God is used through out when giving the creation overview

In Genesis chapter 2:4 onto chapter 3, after an initial 3 use of God, a transition from using God to the LORD God is used

In Genesis chapter 4, a transition from using the LORD God to the Lord is used.

In Genesis chapter 5 onwards, there is a mix-match of using only God or only the Lord.

For what purpose or reasons is God, Lord God, or Lord used particularly in these circumstances, chapters or verses?

Why is only Lord used, why only God used, why only a juxtaposed Lord and God in certain instances?

What objective(s) is the narrator hoping when deliberately and interchangeably using these different nouns?

Let's push the boat out a bit further, shall we . . .

God is a Developer

Cain means " . . . I have acquired a man with God."

- How terribly wrong Eve was with that notion. She acquired a man alright but . . .

Abel means shortlive or short-lived (i.e. vapor, breath, in the negative sense of having no substance and being something very close to nothing)

- Unknowingly a prophetic pronouncement or declaration by the parents.

- The second miss, they thought Cain was "The man!" and Abel was, pfft, dispensable

DNA? DNA tampering?

Whose? Cain or Abel?

Of course, Cain's . . .

Someone had "gbu iyan won keere, otun gba irawon lowo won"

InesQor:
I foresaw all this [size=14pt]jagbajantis[/size] before I posted that's why I put the context (impure DNA) not[i] impure bloodline[/i] or ethnicity.

It was God's will that Jesus should come from a bloodline that encompassed many peoples, not only Israelites, BUT all were genetically pure like Noah was in his day. See the Matthew genealogy for more context.

Whao havent heard the J word in a long time

Had been waiting for an opportunity to use it here on NL

Anyway, Jagbajantis means nonsense, ridiculous, preposterous, ludicrous

If you dont know, now you know

InesQor:

I believe God had to take special care to ensure the Israelites kept a pure line:

1. Spiritually
2. Biologically (pure Human DNA)
3. In understanding and intellect
4. Politically (to remain a nation)

It was also important that they had a geographical location to call their own.

This was because Jesus was coming thru that line. Satan, like other angels, knew that, at the least (though the entire dynamics were unclear).

God's strategy was to preserve a people for himself while his plan unveiled in time.

Satan's strategy was to sabotage the little he knew of the plan by directing other nations (non-chosen by God, but would soon be chosen when Christ came on earth. Like it is now), using them to try to snuff the life out of Israel in one of those 4 aspects so that God's plan wont work out.

In biology, medicine/pharmacy and computing, there is something called Quarantine. Here, a valuable element that is representative of the entire data set, corporeal entity or group is carefully kept away and guarded to the death from likewise valuable elements because the latter is corrupted. Even if the ones outside quarantine get destroyed in the process of safe-guarding the quarantine, the quarantine is adequate to re-develop the entire system when the equilibrium of well-being has been achieved.

After system health is restored and the antibodies, antivirus or otherwise health regulation feedback system is established, there is no more any need for a defensive quarantine that attacks any threat to it. Since Christ has come now, there is no need for any of these "murders" and "wars" anymore.

Preserving Israel by all means was all about Christ.

@InesQor

Chop knuckle o jaare!

. . . too much to bold highlight. I give up

Check this out . . .

First, the pure line started with Abel but when that got short lived was revived through Seth, Noah, Abram/Abraham, Isaac, Jacob/Israel etc . . .

Secondly, that geographic location was theirs already by proxy (i.e. Promise made to Abraham)

Now without raise eyebrows, how does one lay claim to & successfully possess a land  430+ years later that is now occuppied by the Canaanites etc

Well kick off or start off with 66 of Jacob's descendants which will later mushroom into a nation ready to march to the promised land

Before the promised land invasion, the superpower of that era, Egypt, was unwittedly used to build up

and hide a nation (i.e. Israel) right under the noses of the Canaanites & their neighbours

I'll pause here. _{[size=5pt]I wasnt even meant to contribute on NL untl next week the least[/size]}

"Ti a ba bu ounje sinu epo epa, eni ma je yo, a jeyo"

@^^^

Judge assessed person(s), a situation or event and passed sentence after reviewing or making a judicial decision.

The executioner(s) carried out the sentence (i.e. sentenced to death)

Is this murder?

InesQor:

. . . I think we are all saying the very same thing.

@^^^

Subscribe to that

PS: Thank you to all the contributors & readers

aletheia:

@e36991:

. . .  In your opinion, when did the Satan fall and lead a third of the angelic host astray?

@aletheia

. . . before Eden? . . . before Adam committed his sin?

It was when Adam sinned, that sin was stirred up and woken to the world.

Adam's sin subsequently activated sin's sidekick and sleeping giant partner - death.

Remember before the law (i.e. you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil . . .) was given, sin was present in the world

however sin is not taken into account when the law is not broken or when there is no law

So reversely and curiously asking, in your opinion, when did the Satan fall and lead a third of the angelic host astray?

David Haye vs Audley Harrison

13th of November, 2010 M.E.N Arena, Manchester, UK

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh4YkfhBkrQ?fs=1&amp;hl=en_GB[/flash]

Joagbaje:

We should not forget the foundation of this discussion. Chukwudi says holy Mary and saints in heaven are praying for "us" by the holy spirit. 

I said the holyspirit is with the church here on earth and nit in heaven.

So we should gave the background in mind. The holy spirit is omnipresent but his presence doesn't show in every place.

He manifest now through the name of christ. Saints in heaven don't need the power of the holy spirit.

@Joagbaje

Ah-ha, so that was what all this was about 

Anyways, immigration is the passing or coming into a country to which one is not native for the purpose of permanent residence, isnt it?

Without the necessary papers (e.g. passport, citizenship etc) to show when asked, one is deemed an illegal immigrant

It needs to be understood that a spirit on earth without a body too is deemed an immigrant operating illegally

The prerequisite for operating legally on earth is a body

Evil spirits know this, which is why the request was made to be casted into swines (i.e. though filthy, at least its a body)

instead of merely getting cast out in to the elements

The Holy Spirit is no different to other spirits in the sense that it too requires a body for it to operate legally on earth.

Here is where the church - "body of Christ" becomes relevant

The body of Christ is endued with power by receiving the Holy Spirit

Mai Suya:

Isn't there a place where Paul talked against eating food sacrificed to idols?

I doubt if Jesus was talking about physical food in that passage.

@^^^

[quote author=Matt 15:10-11 NIV]
¹⁰Jesus called the crowd to him and said, "Listen and understand.

¹¹What goes into a man's mouth does not make him 'unclean,' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him 'unclean.'"
[/quote]

Mai Suya:

Isn't there a place where Paul talked against eating food sacrificed to idols?

I doubt if Jesus was talking about physical food in that passage

@^^^

Paul said there is nothing wrong in eating it but with a caveat

If ones feels it might cause another to offend or give offense, then give it a miss

nuclearboy:

@e36991:

Your post above! I've read it about 3 times now and thats because I wonder concerning the scope and applicability of our subject matter here.

I think you're right but you're looking at the big picture whist I think myself and Inesqor are looking at "EARTH".

True, some angels went down but there may or may not be a need to fill their ranks back. I believe God can/will perform His judgments Himself.
The idea of "know we not that we judge the angels", I seem to understand differently.
I see it as Paul saying His (and Christians) conducts/worship/trials/tribulations will be used as a marker for judgment
but tacit support for the "accused" would not help such case.
In effect, stop seeming to be on his side by being like satan, was what Paul was saying.

I agree with the message of your post but I think "qualifications" and life style is where I'm really about for the purposes of this thread.

BTW, where did "Modamo" get such gory videos + where's the link to the heroin issue?

@nuclearboy

At the 16:14 minute mark, the guide was asked who were the people that brought the drugs into the country, he blurted " . . . the Nigerians"

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Yours and InesQuor's submissions on the subject matter or title were bang on

but then I did state I was more concerned with the "Why was man created"; "Why was there a need, if any; for man to be created"

Its becomes a burning question especially when you see the man to man cruelties, the evil in this world, watching videos like that one etc

Why?

True, but doesnt lessen the fact that, with the jurors (i.e. sons of God) in court, God as Judge, will execute Judgement himself

and pass sentence along with the jury's verdict

but satan starting from Eden, is trying the best that on court date there are not enough jurors on seat for the case hearing

One has to be upright, law abiding, no criminal record etc to qualify to be juror, isnt it?

Ever wondered, why is satan and the accomplices relentlessly bugging man and causing mischief

". . . dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life . . .

The thief doth not come, except that he may steal, and kill, and destroy . . ." etc

- Classic case of jury tampering and intimidation.

The bible states that, in heaven a third of the   innumerable   angels revolted with satan.

Countless numbers? Hmm, interesting.

In the past it didnt make sense to me, when I hear or see less than a day old new born baby or similar die

Used get my goat and make me wonder, what is the meaning or essence of life

- this baby barely made a day, innocent kids that are yet to come off age dying etc

Then I considered. What is the population of the world today?  The region is home to 1.5 billion people

What is the population of the world today from Eden? I mean the combined? - Dead and alive?

The population I suppose, is countless and still counting  . . . this looks ridiculous

What is God planning or playing at?

Audaciously I submit the need for creating man started in heaven.

The need as it were was a new "family"

Swap countless new sons of God for the revolted innumerable angels (i.e. the former or old sons of God)

Not necessarily merely refill the ranks but fill a vacancy with added value

Seize the opportunity. Kill many two birds with one stone

SIN, DEATH - the penalty for sin, HELL - the holding place (i.e. prison) satan with the innumerable fallen angels & the VACANCY issues will be dealt with

Added bonus, let new post holders have the sitting responsibility of hearing and deciding the case of the former post holders etc . . .

The accused knew how the judicial system works, wasted no time, pulled a fast one and headed to Eden to strike whilst the iron is hot . . .

Adam bit the bullet and pulled the trigger of a gun aimed at his head after Eve jumped the gun when she was hoodwinked & razzmatazzed

"Idi e, laa wa yen ooo. Sibe na, awon nkan, nsi nje iyan won nisu . . . won tun nsenu mere pelu ee. Awon olojuti . . . "

@^^^

[quote author=Matt 15:15 NLT]
Then Peter said to Jesus, "Explain to us the parable that says people aren't defiled by what they eat."
[/quote]

@^^^

Nice. You are simply been about your Father's business

Refer to Luke 2:49 and James 1:27 - a couple of my favourites scriptures

Let me show some of my cards (i.e. Recall am about, the why - and this is before Eden. Going to the top, heaven)

. . . a backdrop as it were.

1) Do we have a recorded or documented number of angels in heaven?
1b) If yes to #1 above then how many numbers of angels did or do we have?
2) How many angels revolted with Satan in heaven?
2b) What are the wages for sin?
3) Do we have a recorded or documented number of people live and dead since from Eden to date?
3b) Is there a need to fill the vacuum created by the angel en-masse in #2 above?
4) Where are the jurors for sentencing the angels coming from. What or who will they be?
4b) OK before John 1:12, who were the original sons of God?
4c) What are the qualifications for a sons of God status?
5) Sin and death will ultimately be gotten rid off . . .

Mind the number's order, they possibly might have been jumbled up 

Another kit-kat pause, probably already sussed where am coming from and heading to . . .

Pastor AIO:

Dear brothers and sisters I have a big problem.  I have a predilection for Amala, that is the meal that is made from Yam flour.  I can eat it at anytime of the day or night and I am sure that if I get a whiff of it in my sleep I can sleepwalk to it and scoff the whole pot before going back to bed without even waking up.  You all will just wake up to find that there is no more amala in the pot.

Now my problem, and it is a big one, lies in the fact that there is absolutely no mention of Amala in the bible.  Not even Yam.  This is very worrisome for me.  If it was Iyan, that is pounded yam, that one is still better because it is white in colour and so might connote some sort of holiness.  But Amala is BLACK!  Could this be the devil's food. 

Please help!!

@Pastor AIO

NL's most favourite pastor!

Is this a ploy to smoke someone out

Anyway amala is not the devil's food ooo

but dare I tell you this for nothing.

The devil eats men dust for breakfast

That is biblical. At least the without the breakfast bit 

Image123:

chukwudi
Where did you see that God has seven arch angels?

@^^^

The hunter becomes the hunted - The predator becomes the prey

Nothing goes past Image123

Dont you just love rhetorics

and the way ". . . Religion is the opium of the masses . . ." - Karl Marx gets banded out at any slightest opportunity

Karl Max wasnt even condemning religion itself but with a little more of the quotation describing:

Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.

The opium was about dulling the people's pain, pacifying them, making them sluggish, clouding the perception of reality, robbing them will to enact change

and preventing them from rising up against the societal bad conditions and the perpetrating bourgeois capitalists

chukwudi44:

I am still waiting for our dear pastor to expatiate on his statement and possibly use some bible passages to "convince" me.

@^^^

What would you do

1) Bury head in the sand and hope this will blow away
2) Dug heels in and weather the storm
3) Play the ignorance is bliss card
4) Feign ignorance of request and so refuse to respond
5) Bite the bullet, come out guns blazing with grit teeth, unrepentant
6) Eat the humble pie, then with hands up, admit making a boo-boo

@^^^

KunleOshob's favourite?

James 1:27 NLT

Pure and genuine religion in the sight of God the Father means caring for orphans and widows in their distress

and refusing to let the world corrupt you.

Jenwitemi:

Oohh! Brilliant! Bravo! We are getting technical now to prove the grand design of the divine kind! Impressive!

Please answer the following questions;

1) Who are the designers?
a) God according to the ancient jews;
b) God according to the pope?

2) Who is doing the "waterfall model" as you put it?
a) God according to the ancient jews;
b) God according to the pope?

3) Who is doing the testing at the last stage?
a) God according to the ancient jews;
b) God according to the pope?

4) Who is doing the acceptance of the "modell" in question?
a) God according to the ancient jews;
b) God according to the pope?

@Jenwitemi

1) God. This is an in-house project, so the designer is the customer (i.e. stakeholder) - God
2) God. The waterfall model simply means the activities used in the development and maintenance of the product - Man
3) God. Testing is done by the customer - God; and is required to verify and validate the product - Man
4) God. Acceptance of the product in question is required to confirm that the finished product - Man, meets the customer's - God's; requirements and needs

@InesQor & Image123

Thanks for the contributions. Agree with yall, totally

I usually refer the spirits of God to different flavours that can be perceived. Perception like in tasting

Now all these flavours are present and can be perceived (i.e. tasted) in the Holy Spirit (i.e. the Whole Spirit)

It is like having a fruit but able to taste an apple flavour, an orange flavour, a banana flavour, a strawberry flavour etc when eating it.

Having and tasting every or all fruits flavour in one complete fruit - dare I say, the holy fruit 

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