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Akwasi:
Abeg, please can anyone post a picture here of President Goodluck Jonathan without a hat? Its urgent. Got into arguments with some friends here

@^^^

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-476770.0.html

PS: Always do search first before submitting a post

[size=14pt]Chinese airport closed after fiery UFO is spotted flying over city[/size]

A Chinese airport was closed after this mysterious object was spotted in the sky.

Arcing over Zhejiang's provincial capital Hangzhou, the UFO appeared to glow with an eerie white light and left a bright trail in its wake.

Xiaoshan Airport was closed after the UFO was detected at around 9 pm and dozens of flights had to be diverted.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/09/article-0-0A61C231000005DC-541_634x396.jpg
^{The strange light appeared to glow as it swept through the night sky, to the alarm of local residents}

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^{Another photo from a different angle which shows a wide trail behind the object as it zips through the sky}

Stunned witnesses reported seeing a comet-like fireball in the sky and a number of local residents took photos of the strange ball of light.

A local bus driver, giving his name only as Yu, said he had seen a strange glowing object in the sky late on Wednesday afternoon.

'The thing suddenly ran westwards fast, like it was escaping from something,' he said.

Inbound flights were diverted to  nearby airports while outbound flights were delayed for three to four hours.

Some Chinese experts claimed that the strange sight was actually debris from a US intercontinental ballistic missile.

Chinese officials later said that they knew what the object had been but were unable to make it public because there was a 'military connection.'

An official statement is expected later today.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1293395/Chinese-airport-closed-UFO-spotted-city.html?ITO=1708&referrer=yahoo#ixzz0tEEK3QvB

alexleo:
some people call themselves born again christians who are heaven bound yet the old man in them still remains.
A christian who is working in an office with a forged document of any kind (result, birth certificate etc) is not  heaven bound.
A christian who comes to work at 8.30am and writes 7.30am is not heaven bound.
A christian who is absent to anything and ask that his name be written as one that was present is not heaven bound.
A christian who participates in contract inflation is not heaven bound.
A christian who gives or collect bribe in any form is not heaven bound.
A christian who signs money in the office to buy something and divert the money into his private pocket is not heaven bound.
A christian who does not refund money when he is mistakenly over paid by anybody or institution is not heaven bound.
A christian who engages in extra marital affairs is not heaven bound.
A christian who embezzles church money is not heaven.
A christian who claims what he is not in order to obtain one form of help or favour is not heaven bound.
A christian who jumps paying tax or utility bills is not heaven bound.
A christians who pretends to be hardworking only when his boss is around is not heaven bound.
A christian who helps somebody to buy something and pocket the balance without telling the person is not heaven bound.
A christian who uses somebody's thing without telling him is not heaven bound.
A christian who pretends to love when in the actual sense he doesnt love is not heaven bound.
A christian who pretends to have forgiven when in the actual sense he hasnt forgiven is not heaven bound.
A christian who engages in any form of deceit or cheating is not heaven bound.
On and on goes the list. Yet the truth remains we can only achieve this by His grace and not by our power or might. God help us.

@^^^

. . . and erm here are the nairaland wet blankets . . .

A "christian" who uses company's or employer's paid time to surf nairaland without employer's expressed permission is not . . .

A "christian" who uses employer's resources or company's properties (i.e. computer, company's internet access etc) for non-company related businesses or purposes (e.g. surfing nairaland) without employer's knowledge or expressed permission is not . . .

e36991:
@OLAADEGBU

Rather Elijah & Moses?

- representing the prophets and the law?

Came across this video that seemingly dropped a proverbial fly into the ointment

Original text apparently didnt make any mention of "men"

The men was an insertion during commentary or whilst translating

Look out for 0:56; 1:15; 1:17; 1:38; 1:44 minutes marks and other when watching

PS: ^{Dont forget to close the annoying "Ads by Google" by clicking on X at the bottom right corner when viewing}

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OLAADEGBU:
And if you will receive it, this is Elijah, which was for to come. -- Matthew11:14 The Evidence Bible

New Age preachers always use this verse to justify their claim of reincarnation  but when we read the Bible paying attention to details we will see that Elijah wasn't reincarnated as John the Baptist but that John merely came in the spirit and power of Elijah (Luke 1:17) for it is appointed unto man once to die (Heb.9:27).  When John the Baptists was asked whether he was Elijah he said that he was not the prophet and even the people did not recieve him as Elijah.  John the Baptist was the first martyr since the beginning of Jesus' ministry after which Jesus said that "Elijah truly shall first come, and restore all things" (Matt.17:11).

This means Elijah is still to come and restore all things as one of the witnesses as written in Revelation 11:3-6. 

The other witness is up for the jury to decide but as for me I will say it is Enoch

since I don't believe that he has died yet before he was transported to heaven where he has been since.

@OLAADEGBU

Rather Elijah & Moses?

- representing the prophets and the law?

Deu 34:5-6 KJV:
⁵So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD.

⁶And he buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, over against Bethpeor: but no man knoweth of his sepulchre unto this day.

Mark 9:4 KJV:
And there appeared before them Elijah and Moses, who were talking with Jesus.

vescucci:
The virus is the external element introduced. As I inferred, the trouble does not emanate from the software itself. You follow? So man cannot be blamed for being misled.

Na wa o. Only God is good? I think only God is absolutely good for other reasons though. If He kills everyone of us, I wouldn't consider it evil. He can do as He pleases, but that is for another time. Have you ever wondered why ever did God even put the doggone Tree of Knowledge in Eden? Perhaps to tempt us? A thing we often accuse the devil of doing? I'm not saying something or the other, I just like to keep an open mind and not run away with an idea of God as I wish it to be. I don't think evil emanated or was born by man. I think God knows what evil is or He created the concept. People like to say things like He is absolute love. How can you be such a thing without a subject? I mean you can't be a killer if there's absolutely nothing to kill. How can God be absolute love in our eyes when the creation of man is new by God's time? He knows and knew about evil or He created it. What is the use of freewill when there is nothing like evil. What I'm trying to say is Adam is responsible for Adam and I am responsible for me and you you. There is no original sin. We already have a concept of good and evil in out psyche. That's why we have a conscience. Everyone makes his own choices and is not influenced by any bug in the software or virus. Also, good is good. If God is allergic to evil, He ought to be drawn by good too. I'd die for my siblings. I'd kill anyone who would harm them. I am not all good. I am not all evil. I'm a mixture of both as is every human. In some, the good is winning and in some the good is losing. God is good. Do you suppose an eternity in hell is fair or just? Even Hitler doesn't deserve that. Whatever Heaven is too, no one merits it. Yes o. I am itching very well and I don't mind deeper waters. I dunno if you can answer all my questions though. But I'd appreciate if you can try

@vescucci

"Do you suppose an eternity in hell is fair or just?" you queried. I suppose you know death and hell are cast into the lake of fire

Noticed it was a sentence reply. Sorry have to hit the sack, I usually turn in hours earlier than now

Twas a pleasure. Hope it was mutual. Muncho gracias for your time. What you say, tomorrow is another day?

We may tackle and trash out "What is the use of freewill when there is nothing like evil" etc

vescucci:
Actually I like a little humour. Some people think it means I'm not taking things seriously but surely not you. So, by all means, be my guest.

I think your software analogy is faulty because a bug is either there from the beginning or some external element introduced it. In the case of Eve and Adam, they just sinned, pure and simple. In any case, if I were to accept that analogy, what does Jesus' coming achieve? It doesn't change our nature an iota. I'm skeptical about the born again brouhaha but no one won't concede that even a born again person can sin. All they'll say is, 'he won't remain perpetually in sin' or some other back door explanation. So Jesus didn't come to fix us. He just came to sort of give us a secret passage to God, no? I'll leave my misgivings about this for later. So unlike fixing a bug in a software which will make all subsequent outputs perfect, the same cannot be said of man. A born again man and woman can birth a murderer.

I assume you're coming back later to address my itches (I only require scratching by the way, thank you) but you just raised something that bothers me. There's such a thing as being selfless. There's such a thing as a selfless gift. It is said that the best deed is one that the right hand does without the left hand's knowledge. Don't you think there's something wrong with the picture when God demands acknowledgment for his son giving his life away? How is it a selfless gift? Who would choose hell over heaven? It's not my fault that I don't believe Jesus died for me. How can God possibly hold it against me that I cannot comprehend and accept something with the limited brain He gave me? It's crazy! If He really died for my sins, I ought to be forgiven whether I ask for forgiveness or not, whether I acknowledge the sacrifice or not.

vescucci:
I forgot. Good is good. As evil is evil. I dunno about standards but if you want an answer, I'd say take your pick. God's or man's.

It makes no difference to me. Atheists can be as good as any born again Christian or Muslim or Buddhist or Hindu.

@vescucci

A software bug (i.e. coding error resulting in a defect) is different from a corrupted file (i.e. the normal.dot file infected by a virus)

Anyway I'll let that roll

The way you're going it seems you're itching for the boat to be pushed out. Into deep waters?

Right. It started with choice in beginning, didnt it? In Eden? Life and death.

Tree of Life and Tree of Knowledge of Good & Bad centrally placed in the garden

So whats wrong with presently needing/having to choose Life again (i.e. Jesus) or dareisay death

Hey no matter what, do you know what comforts me? Puts me at peace?

When the chips fall wherever they may, God is Just.

Whatever the verdict you can be rest assured and satisfied the judgment is right and just

. . . and hey almost forgot this bit

Good is good but better put only God is good

Goodness without right standing with God is a false representation to no purpose and is delusional.

vescucci:
Yes e36991. We agree then. The name means nothing. The bearer makes it powerful, whatever that means.

Though, why didn't God bless Abram directly? Must his name be changed for the blessing to work?

And some blessing to the world Arabs and Jews turned out to be. But ah. Another can of worms.

Image is making me itch with plenty questions o. The born of man bit is whoa!

I'm not sure about the Eden story but for the sake of this discussion I'll run with it.

Adam sinned, albeit vicariously, even though he was born of no man. Eve definitely sinned outright.

Even by your estimation the 'born of man' theory won't work since it seems that women have more of this sinful nature than men.

So you actually think sin is encoded in our dna? This brings me to another thing that puzzles me to no end.

People like to say we're inherently evil. Asides from the things we do in self preservation, I think we also have a great capacity for doing good and being selfless.

Why does it seem God is unconcerned about that aspect of us? A man that is 99percent good and 1percent evil is wholly evil in God's eyes?

Why can't God just forgive what He wants outright especially as He's rarely sinned against directly.

We hurt each other and we forgive each other.

From your Eden story, I assume you believe God can see the future perfectly. Answer me these

A bad man in his soul who has never had the opportunity to actually do bad, does that make him good then.

Does he get to be with God as he has never done anything wrong? That might sound wrong or not quite right, right? Wait

If he doesn't get to be with God then what does God have against him? What's His grudge?

If He knows him to be that was inherently, that means God made him that way and his free will is just a freedom to choose what evil he'll do.

And doesn't that say something about God that will damn a man who's done nothing wrong or damn a man for staying true to the nature with which he was created?

@vescucci

I hope I'll manage to cover/touch all the concerns raised. I'll try line by line

Agree? No, on the contrary. The name with the blessing (i.e. anointing) and not the bearer makes it powerful

Except legally, why aren't you arbitrarily picking a waif off the street and call it son or daughter

For the obvious reason that there is no relationship. The same applied to Abram and God. GOD couldnt bless Abram until a relationship was strucked

The name change from Abram to Abraham is a testimony to the fact

Sin is a trangression of the law. Adam, sure born of no man, sinned by disobeying the law of not eating of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good & evil

By the way, what you want, some powder or straightjacket for the itch

Jokes apart. Am serious now, pardon the excess. Now " . . . So you actually think sin is encoded in our dna . . ." you asked

For you to be a moderator, I am presuming you are IT software savvy

Consider this you have Microsoft Word software

If the global template file (i.e. normal.dot file) is corrupt, what happens to any new word document created with the Microsoft Word software?

Except the normal.dot file is sorted out/fixed, all word docs created will be dodgy

"I think we also have a great capacity for doing good and being selfless." you asserted

Capacity for doing good? Good? By whose standards?

Tell me. Your standards or whose?

No no no. No damnation the way you're twisting it

By His mercy, God offers forgiveness to all. Forgiveness is on the plate, meet His conditions and you'll receive it (i.e. forgiveness)

Deep Sight:
I have a question.

Why was Jesus without sin?

Was it on account of -

- - his human nature or

- - his divine nature.

Since it is not possible for a human nature to be sinless then presumably he was without sin because of his divine nature.

Does this not presuppose that he should be perfect and beyond other human frailties - given that he was beyond the greatest human frailty- sin.

Does this not presuppose that such frailties such as the fear that seemed to besiege him in Gethsemane should equally be alien to him?

Thanks.

Image123:
The Bible informs us that sin reigned to all men through Adam, the first man. God held Adam responsible for the offence seeing that he wasn't deceived. And so, every seed of man is born with sin (All have sinned). Anyone born of the flesh inherits that sinful nature. But Jesus had to be sinless for His sacrifice to be acceptable. He was not born of the seed of the man but of the woman. Genesis  3v15. What we call spermatozoa(the seed of the man) was not involved, so Christ wasn't born with a sinful nature.
But he was born of a woman, so had a divine-human nature. He could still sin, the fallen angels had no human nature but still sinned. But Jesus, in human form overcame temptationS and He is coming again for those who are overcoming. It's worthy of note that the promise of His coming in Genesis 3v15 was fulfilled about 4000 years later. One would have thought that Eve wil be alive to see her seed bruise the head of the serpent. In the same vein, as sure as you can read this post, jesus is coming soon. 2010 years is never late in His eyes, and yes, He is coming to take overcomers to His side and punish the others. The door of His mercy is open today for deepsight and for all others.

@^^^

Teach teacher! . . .

Image123:
spiritually decipher indeed.

Even the OP admits to wrong choice of words. Everyone seems skeptical about the true meaning of the OP, if not that he later began to clarify.

There's nothing much to the post, just an attempt at being esoteric (which isn't equal to spirituality).

@Image123

Tag or label it what you want . . .

It ceases to be esoteric, the minute its here in the open as knowledge to share and discuss over

Give a brother a break . . .

vescucci:
Hey e36991. I see your point but still I'm saying his name really holds no power on its own.

Let me approach from another angle. You're a Christian apparently.

You subscribe to the belief that Jesus has existed in some capacity since time immemorial, right? He was only named Jesus by God just over two millenia ago, right? Except you think God had always thought of Jesus as Jesus even before He created man, I'd say that name Jesus only sprung to existence then and only then. So all I'm saying is that whatever name he was called would change nothing about him. I won't choose to call my son Hitler, not because I fear, by some twisted turn of events, he might become like Hitler but because I don't want people to think of Hitler when they call his name.

Likewise, most serial killers and rapists have good Christian or Muslim names. A name is just a name.

All the Jewish name permutations served different purposes but nothing like holding special powers.

Simon to Peter did nothing conceivable in my opinion. He still faltered when he ought not to. Saul to Paul abi na vice versa didn't avert his overthrowing. Abram to Abraham, naught. Sarai to Sarah, naught. And a host of others.

It seems to me like a hobby more than anything.

@vescucci

" . . . still I'm saying his name really holds no power on its own" you say

True, true talk, I can live with that because the name on its own would be like a paper tiger

but with the blessing and anointing; it's potent!

". . . You're a Christian apparently" you enquired

Limiting! Take it that am more than a christian

and erm GOD is continually revealing . . . God hinted about the Saviour in Eden. The prophets foretold of the Saviour (i.e. Jesus) didnt they?

Do you know ALL about your partner. No, I dont think you would but as you continue in the relationship, more will be revealed. No?

Serial killers and rapists having good Christian or Muslim names without the blessing and anointing thereoff

Or even if they had the blessing etc, if the spirit has left them like as with Samson, then they're toasted

Its like a criminal adorning a good police uniform without the authority thereoff. The criminal will still commit the crime if minds put to it.

"Simon to Peter did nothing conceivable in my opinion. He still faltered when he ought not to" you stated

Yeah, a predicament of the carnal man and spirit man (i.e. Simon and Peter)

". . . Abram to Abraham, naught. Sarai to Sarah, naught . . ." you say

Naught? C'mon now, you know better than that, at least only from "exalted father" to "father of multitudes" should suffice for Abraham

The name and the blessing/anointing are mutually inclusive

vescucci:
Ok. I can see your point from the biblical point of view

but what I'm saying is that whatever name he chose or was given, it would not detract one jot from his awesomeness or power, no?

And all the beneded knees bit. I don't even get that. Contemporary pastors seem to have a field day on that.

Surely you can see that it is supposed to be metaphorical or over-zealousness of whoever wrote that part of the bible.

You can use a 2million watt speaker to scream Jesus' name and I assure you no human or animal or tree or anything will bow.

Some might start bleeding through their ears but that will be it.

Some won't even know what the sound means. So in reality, that part makes no sense.

As an allegory, I'm sure you'll find a pat explanation but I can't really conceive of any. Self-awareness.

@vescucci

I enjoyed the bended knees and bleeding ears humour

This is the point, names and naming matters (i.e. in Hebrew what you're called matters; it could be prophetic etc)

God renamed Sarai, He renamed Abram, Jacob was renamed, Benjamin was renamed, Saul was too, Peter as well etc

Not a self awareness as such but rather a discovery and awareness of the distinction & indispendable combo of Jesus and Christ

Crude parallel Jonathan Goodluck the President & Jonathan Goodluck the husband of Patience are the same person

but with different roles & capacities . . .

vescucci:
Jesus is just a name. Whether or not God chose the name specially is of no consequence.

I don't think there is anything to the name in itself for if there was we ought to using it as is i.e. Esau or something.

It is just a name for the man.

Christ is not a name. It is a title. The Messiah. The anointed one.

Whether or not he's the expected Messiah of the Jews (if there's or will be such a thing) is also irrelevant.

My point is that Jesus would still be as influential even if he was called John Smith.

His name is just a name and there's no need to distinguish between Jesus and Christ. That was not Nuclearboy's intention either.

It was just meant to be a clever way to highlight different parts of his time on earth.

@vescucci

There is a lot to do with the name Jesus (i.e. Yeshua)

All Hebrew names have meanings

The Esau that you mentioned means hairy and it is a reference to his hairiness at birth

Another example. The name "Moses" comes from a root meaning  "take out" because Moses was taken out of the river

Now Jesus means Saviour and it is a reference to the fact He is the Saviour of mankind

It is a powerful name and here is what the scripture says of the name

Philippians 2:9-11:
"Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name,

that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth,

and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."

"Christ is not a name. It is a title. The Messiah. The anointed one." you said

That is true Christ is the greek for the Anointed One (i.e. set aside)

and as foretold by the prophets, Messiah is the hebrew for the Anointed One (i.e. set aside)

Have you ever wondered why did GOD need to or have to ask Adam questions, if GOD is omniscient:

"Where are thou" "Who told you that you were unclothed?" "Have you eaten from the tree whose fruit I commanded you not to eat?"

It seems ludicrous does it?

Anyway it was not because GOD doesnt know

but rather it was for Adam's benefit; self-awareness and self-discovery

". . . That was not Nuclearboy's intention either . . ." you stated.

True it isnt a tongue-in-cheek question but rather it is a lead-on to discovery and awareness (i.e. to spiritually discern or decipher)

nuclearboy:
@alexleo:

I love your manner and arguments but you should try take another look at the OP's message in relation to Aaron wearing Skirts!

I do not have evidence that Jesus wore but surely the "law" you push here would have caught Aaron!

Clothing is mainly a matter of culture with for example, Irish men wearing Skirts.

I think these are small issues before God when you consider truth, righteousness and love.

The only comment I have on women wearing trousers is that they should be decent

- one worn with thongs showing underneath or cut all over in the name of fashion is definitely wrong.

Remembered the night vigils we have - without jeans, mosquitoes will send you to hospital

and I think what will cheapen God most is to ask Him to protect us from mosquitoes because we don't want to wear trousers

OP's assertions make sense if decency is implied in the trousers.

@^^^

True talk . . . but Scottish not Irish men

Some are predators wearing hip and a$$ hugging jeans to deliberately set eyes rolling and heads turning

Same can be said of men that wear sleeveless (i.e. show-me-your-muscles) with the mindset to set the opposite gender off on lustful and fantasy trips

At the end of the day, it starts from the heart and the motive . . .

Is it the right thing to be done. Is it the right time or place for it. Is one at right with God on/with it.

You are justified if all threes are ticked if not then scratch the idea

makajibbz:
so, still havent answered my question,  

@makajibbz

You sure you are walking on water the word?

You're walking on thin ice bud, watch the plunge . . .

makajibbz:
If he wasnt nakked then why did he hide after eating the fruit,  and your statement ''buying a black car'' doesnt apply to my question.

Agreed that holy spirirt dwelleth in them that's why the could speak/listen to God.

But they also heard God call them after they ate the apple, so explain that too.

by the way i am writing not talking,

@makajibbz

Bet you've never bought a car to match an image you're trying to portray

Apple? Must have been only in your bible version

". . . by the way i am writing not talking"? Allegory mean anything to you, uh?

nuclearboy:
@e36991:

Nokia X6. Been wondering how to get one on it for a long while.

Whats been happening to you?

@nuclearboy

Hey KJV suit you?

I'll sort you out the soonest. Need to check my archives. Watch this space

Rewind. Scratch the line above.

This is an alternative and quicker. Check out this URL link http://gobible.jolon.org/

Instructions are straightforward and self explanatory

If hitched, holler

makajibbz:
What you just wrote doesn't back your conclusion,

According to the Bible, God created man from dust (true) but the same bible never emphasised on the basics that Adam was a spirit.

But the Bible said Adam was created and lived nake-d (do spirits have unclothedness).

It is known we've spirit in us and a physical body covering, so if we were created as Godlikes then God will most probably like us (humans).

RIGHT or WRONG?

@makajibbz

Wrong.

Does a car you buy to match your image and/or status physically look like you?

For the sake of illustrating, buying a black car doesnt imply your complexion is black

Will you just lay off and back down

Go and read the Bible . . . Study it to show yourself approved

and stop coming here and unreservedly talking from all the four compass points of your mouth.

Adam and Eve were created by God with the Holy Spirit indwelling

When they sinned, the Spirit departed from them and their mind became carnal (i.e. a slave to the flesh)

But the Bible said Adam was created and lived nake-d? unclothedness? Lets park that for now (i.e. for another time)

davidylan:
It is, but provide a basis for your video that is grounded in reality.

@^^^

In the absence of a readily available basis, how about granting "a benefit of the doubt" 

There is no smoke without fire . . .

toluxa1:
@nuclear.

Thanks my dear brother. I totally understand your point now.

I have been around but not as before.

I usually just read through cos i'm mostly on mobile and find it heard to post replies, bible verses, quotes, and make them bold for some people who refuse to SEE things.

How is your group doing? Where I am it's quite hard getting people like that to fellowship with so I fellowship with my bible.

I come from a very very Churchy family. Many of my friends think I'm a backslider when they see me at home, studying on SUNDAYS.

Infact, you can't imagine the kind of 'persecution' I'm going through from family for refusing to member in church. The LORD is my strenght sha.

Shalom

@toluxa1

Organised church is different from organic church

The former you dont have to subscribe to, the latter you already are a member

Dont you see?! You've just had church!!

There. Right here with Nuclearboy today at 01:26:38 PM

Dont let the detractors wear you down

PS: If you you havent already got a bible or need a bible on your mobile, let me know the make and model.

I'll provide you with access to the software and installation instructions

You can be sure of your destiny by making the right choice . . .

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Does it feel like there are two forces pulling on your life?

AVISENNA:
DEAR NAIRALANDERS

I REALLY NEED YOUR HONEST, SINCERE AND BIBLICAL VIEW AND ANSWER ABOUT THIS:

I GREW UP AS A CHRISTIAN , BORN AGAIN AND PASSIONATE ABOUT THE GOSPEL BUT  I DID SOMETHING CONTRARY TO THE WILL OF GOD.

I GOT PREGNANT BUT OUT OF FEAR AND SHAME I ABORTED IT EVER SINCE I HAVE BEEN LIVING WITH THE GUILT OF MY ACTIONS.

1. HOW DO I MAKE UP  FOR THIS AND REDEEM MYSELF.
2. I EVEN OPENED UP TO MY FIANCE OVER THIS AND HE HAS CONSTANTLY ENCOURAGED ME THAT GOD IS MERCIFUL;


I NEED ANSWERS PLEASE:

@AVISENNA

Don't be too hard on yourself.

What point is there crying over spilt milk, eh?

You see, at times we learn from our experience[/b]s [b]or that of others

Which is why its often said "Experience shapes your Character and your Character determines your Actions"

You know you got it wrong. We know you got it wrong too

but this guilt trip shouldn't be a life sentence neither should it be hanging over you like a death sentence.

Daniel 9:9 KJV:
To the Lord our God belong mercies and forgivenesses, though we have rebell[/b]ed [b]against him;

God is ahead of you. He had already blessed you with an understanding and knowledgeable partner for such a time like this

True, true talk, the Lord our God is merciful and forgiving

Psalms 51:16-17 AMP:
¹⁶For You delight not in sacrifice, or else would I give it;

You find no pleasure in burnt offering.

¹⁷My sacrifice (i.e. the sacrifice acceptable) to God is a broken spirit;

a broken and a contrite heart (i.e. broken down with sorrow for sin and humbly and thoroughly penitent), such, O God, You will not despise.

Open up to GOD too. Own up to Him and admit with your hands up that you made a boo-boo.

Then as you are making peace with Him, pray and/or ask to be stronger as you continue your walk with Him

swoosh #864 on: June 20, 2010, 11:21 PM :
Some Nigerian girls've got booties (especially Yoruba babes) - but that's like 15%

- in contrast at 85% of Southern African chicks (South AFrica, Zimbabswe, Botwana) have huge - I mean very huge booties)

but wait for this,

After spending some time in Johannesburg now,

I can say I have seen and bleeped the biggest asses that I previously thought only existed in pornographic movies

- but the truth is, most of these huge things are only enticing when covered in blue jeans.

Sex with these girls is not as fun as it appears

(well after the first time - u know the excitement of bleeping that huge backside really get u on

but after that, it all dies off cos u exert a lot of energy with little impact

-  the hips cover a lot of ground so u need to dig deep for them to even feel you)

I'm now looking for slim girls with just slight asses - cos that's where the real fun is.

With slim girls, there's a wider surface area for greater impact with minimal effort

- and that the definition of efficiency (FYI- this is reason white men prefer slim babes)

@swoosh

. . . also does your wife know about your past escapades and recently nursed fantasies

(i.e. the above past escapades and recently nursed fantasies excerpt from https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-105339.864.html#msg6252117 )

Or is this a double standard game you're playing here uh?

Pinocchio! Pfft!!

swoosh:
My wife dated several men before we met and eventually got married- she told me about most of these men and I thought it didnt matter, now however Im finding it very difficult to cope with these facts - I often imgine her making love to different men and its really draining the respect I should have for her

Is this something other married men also feel? or is there something terribly wrong with me?

I really i'm not happy about these thoughts but how to I get them out of my mind? Need some advice please

@swoosh

Does your wife share your ogling passion in the below link too (i.e.  " . . . this is about celebrating our well endowed Nigerian Women" )

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=105339.msg6277954#msg6277954

Shameless Pot-calling-Kettle-black timewaster

[size=14pt]Student jailed over false r@pe claim made "so she could get more time to do her homework"[/size]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/05/article-1292055-0A536C7E000005DC-489_233x224.jpg
^{Jailed: Temitope Adenugba will spend 18 months behind bars
for falsely accusing a cleaner of r@ping her in an effort to get an extension on her course work}

A student has been jailed for 18 months for falsely claiming a cleaner had r@ped her - so she could get an extension on her university course work.

Temitope Adenugba, 24, was struggling to meet a deadline whilst studying at Oxford Brookes University last year.

She phoned police to tell them she had been abused as a child, before complaining she had also been subjected to a serious sexual assault as she slept in her university digs.

When officers attended her halls of residence to take a statement, Adenugba pointed at cleaner Kunle Ogunmola and said: 'Can't talk here, that's the man who r@ped me.'

Mr Ogunmola was arrested, before a subsequent police investigation exposed a catalogue of lies and her claims later proved to be complete fantasy.

The lie was created in a bid to get an extension on her end-of-term coursework, the court heard.

Sentencing her to 18 months in prison at Oxford Crown Court on Friday, Recorder Rabinder Singh said: 'It's extremely easy to make an allegation of r@pe when there's no foundation whatsoever.

'It's likely to have the perverse impact of guilty men walking free.'

The court heard that police attended Clive Booth Halls of residence, Oxford, on May 21 last year after she reported historic abuse against her as a child.

Officers interviewed her but were stunned when she told them Mr Ogunmola had used a key to get into her room on April 13 and r@ped her.

A full police investigation was launched and the cleaner was quizzed and later arrested.

But police found any keys taken by Mr Ogunmola had been returned by April 12 and would not have given him access to her room at any time.

Adenugba had also alleged her victim had been harassing her with phone calls, but analysis of both parties' mobile phones showed this to be a lie.

Scientific examination of her pyjamas also revealed no link to Mr Ogunmola.

Mr Walsh added that Adenugba had made a fictitious r@pe complaint against a previous partner in October 2006.

Walter Scott, mitigating, said his client had made the claim against Mr Ogunmola after an earlier false allegation of harassment against the same man 'didn't have the desired effect of extending her time to do her coursework'.

He added: 'She was not seeking to directly attack the victim, he was chosen rather arbitrarily.'

Det Ch Insp Colin Paine, of Thames Valley Police, said: 'It is exceptionally rare and unusual for a malicious complaint to be made in this way. It caused significant distress to the man who was accused.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1292055/Student-jailed-despoil-claim-invented-extension-course-work.html?ITO=1708&referrer=yahoo#ixzz0so36iPhB

[size=14pt]Baby 'a gift', says father, 79[/size]

A pensioner reported to be Britain's oldest new father has told of becoming a parent for the seventh time, at 78 - with a woman 54 years his junior.

Jamie Rai was born 10 weeks ago to Raymond Calvert, now 79, and his 25-year-old partner Charlotte, who has adopted his surname.

The former shop owner and market trader from Winewall, Lancashire, described the little boy, who weighed 7lb 1oz at birth, as a "gift from God".

He told The Sun newspaper: "I am the most fortunate man in the world. It makes me feel 10ft tall.

"The baby was planned and I did not use Viagra or anything like that. I didn't actually think at my age that it would be possible to have a child, but he's a beautiful little fella.

"I feel blessed. I look at that baby and I think, 'He's so bloody healthy and good-looking - how did I make that?'"

Mr Calvert has six other children who are all older than his partner and range in age from 38 to 51.

He raised them alone after his wife died 28 years ago and now has nine grandchildren.

He told the paper he first met Ms Calvert following a three-year relationship with her mother. She was 16 at the time and joined him on caravan holidays with his children.

Jamie was born at Airedale Hospital, near Keighley, West Yorkshire.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20100702/tuk-baby-a-gift-says-father79-6323e80.html

When I saw this post yesterday I steered clear of it,

not wanting to know because of its disturbing heading and so deliberately refrained from reading it

but today, alas, curiousty got the better of me so I clicked it to read it's details against my better judgment.

Inexplicable!

babaearly:
@nuclearboy

whats your aim?

to cause confusion or to spread knowledge? apostates~!

@babaearly

Confusion? Nah, God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

To spread knowledge? You got that right. Knowlegde: Know-to-have-the-edge naimean

Apostates? Pfft! What you on about . . .

toluxa1:
I follow JESUS CHRIST.

PS: I don't think there is need for this thread.

@toluxa1

Why not?

Its not like its a hot potato

thehomer:
A theocracy is actually a system of leadership by humans who claim to be acting on divine guidance.

This to me is just another form of autocracy.

Only that in some cases, it may be a group of people claiming to speak for their deity.

@thehomer

Erm but the theocracy referenced here is as that of Israel before the rise of kings

Notice in Exodus 19:4-6 GOD's intention of speaking directly with the Isralites (i.e. refer to the below verse)

Exodus 19:4-6:
⁴Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles' wings, and brought you unto myself.

⁵Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant,

then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:

⁶And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation.

These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

Also notice in Exodus 20:18-19 how the Isralites rebuffed the privilege

Exodus 20:18-19:
¹⁸And all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking:

and when the people saw it, they removed, and stood afar off.

¹⁹And they said unto Moses,

Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die.

They preferred Moses speak with GOD on their behalf rather themselves converse with GOD directly

Theocracy as it is deemed now, is different from the original (i.e. different from that of Israel's before the rise of kings)

and no doubt over the ages changed (i.e. has its fair share of metamorphosis)