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atbu1983:
Source: http://www.unitedijaw.com/analysis.htm

So you want us to pay attention to you and your propaganda. Part of the write up is genuine - an excerpt from Mr Sam Miriki IPA speech of 2008. But trust me that blog was opened just recently. And for what? Your guess is as good as mine.

zuchyblink:
The part in Imo refused to disclaim Igbo
and hence are treated badly by the Federal
Government. The more you disclaim Igbo,
the more your gain. The original Nzeobi(Eze
or Igwe) stool for the entire Egbema is in
Imo State but a parallel was created by FG in
Rivers to divide and cause enmity.

We've never denied our Igbo origin. Even the Rivers state Government label us as Igbos. I don't know your motivation for this needless thread.
Your focus should be targeted at the Ikwerres and Etches not us.

macolino:
I guess you do not know the TRUE history,tradition and language of egbema kingdom,google it.i hope U know of egbema gbaramatu and their history as well..mr sabinus

We are lgbo in origin. The Bini migration theory was due to our close relationship with Oguta and Ndoni people. Our ancestors came from Igbo heartland, precisely Isu. Moreover, over 80 percent of Ogutans are Isuama in origin.

EasternLion:
Capital will be selected on Referendum.
Besides all the states will be restructured to clans and provinces.
There are a lot of Non-igbo speaking clans that will be at the middle.
And if we go by the system of govt proposed, if they site capital for your village, you go reject am, becus e no go attract any speciality unlike zoo and Abuja.

Abi. The capital may even be desolate if true federalism is practiced, just like the tourist American capital. Who wants to go to poor Washington DC, when NY, California, Texas and Nevada are the most prosperous.
A food for thought!

mcvaeey:
Chambers Dictionary (William Geddie, ed. 1962) says: “A nation is a body of people marked off by common descent, language, culture, or historical tradition: the people of a tribe.” However, S.O.L. Amadi-Nna (1993) avers that: “A tribe is a group of clans under recognized chiefs and usually claiming common ancestry. Ikwerre can therefore not be a clan but a tribe. The Ikwerres claim a common ancestor. Ikwerre is an independent small tribe.” In the words of K.O. Amadi (1993), “Traditions suggest that Ikwerre is a nickname given to Iwhnuruọhna people…..They have ever since regarded themselves as a distinct group and have happily come a long way in their struggle for self-identity as evidenced by the recognition of their language as one of the Nigerian languages.”

Amadi-Nna (1993) added that: “The Ikwerres are a small but distinct tribe. The Ikwerres have distinct linguistic, social and cultural traits and formations that distinguish them from other close neighbouring tribes like the Ijaws and the Ibos. Majority of the Ikwerre settlements have their roots traceable from the old Benin Empire.” Iwhnurọhna people descended from  the ancient Bini Kingdom. The name of the grand ancestor is Akalaka. Their relations in Rivers State are Ekpeye and Ogba people. The reigning Oba of Benin when Akalaka, the ancestor of Ihruọha (later called Iwhnurọhna) fled was Oba Ewuare (Ogwaro). Akalaka, a member of the Benin royal family, fled in the 13th century on allegation of plotting assassination of the Oba. He died in 1462. Iwhnurọhna his third son settled east of the Sombrero River by 1538 AD, as detailed below.

Chief N.M.T. Solomon (2004), native of Ikodu Ubie in Ekpeyeland, in his narrative draws heavily from the now authenticated written historical records delivered by various informed sources including “Eketu (Weber) of Ubeta, assumed to have lived for over two hundred (200) years as the oldest man in all Ekpeye, Ogba and Iwhnurọhna (or Ikwerre), at that time (and) was asked to narrate the history and customs of Ekpeye people” as unfolded in his lifetime. Here is what he said, which has been validated by the accounts of the current generation through responses to our questionnaires and direct interviews thereby increasing our level of confidence on the data:

Ekpeye, born in Benin, was the first of the three sons of Akalaka. While in Ndoni, he married a second wife to gain the love and favour of the people. The new wife gave birth to a son, which he named Ogba. Akalaka was still in Ndoni when his first wife, the mother of Ekpeye, gave birth to his third son called Ihruoha (Ikwerre).

Similar historical fact by J.N. Olise (1971) averred that: “Akalaka, a member of the Benin royal family, fled with his wife from Benin to Ndoni, a community located close to the River Niger, to save the life of his new born baby (Ekpeye) … While at Ndoni, Akalaka took a second wife. … Akalaka had two sons, Ekpeye – born to him by his Benin wife, and Ogba – born to him by his Ndoni wife. According to F.E. Otuwarikpo (1994): "After the death of Akalaka in 1462 AD, his two sons, Ekpeye and Ogba had conflict, which compelled Ogba, the younger son, to move northwards where he founded Ohiakwo (Obigwe) and settled with his family. Ekpeye who remained at Ula-Ubie had seven sons – Ubie, Akoh, Upata, Igbuduya, Ekpe, Awala and Asa. The last three sons – Ekpe, Awala and Asa – crossed to the other side of Sombreiro River (present day Ikwerreland and settled there since 1538 AD.” He added that: “Ekpe migrated to present day Rumuekpe and spread through Elele (Alimini), Ndele, Rumuji and part of Ibaa. Awala migrated to present day Isiokpo …” 

Amadi-Nna (1993) also said Akalaka migrated with his half brother called Ochichi from the area of Benin Empire. Ochichi sons were Ele (Omerele, now Elele), Elu (Elumuoha, now Omerelu), Egbe (Egbeda) and Mini (Alimini, Isiokpo).

The crucial point here, which is of great importance in tracing the joint origin of the ancestors of the Old Ahoada Division (in the Governor Diete-Spiff administration), is the mention of the number of children that Akalaka had, namely: Ekpeye, Ogba and Ihruọha (Ikwerre). It is noteworthy that the pedigree and name of Ikwerre people, Iwhnurọhna, obviously took its root from this original name – Ihruọha. Chief Solomon therefore establishes a very vital historical link, which has been missing in literature on Ikwerre origin that would assume more significance in the discourses of Ikwerre genealogy in the future – the fact that Akalaka was the direct father of Ihruọha (Ikwerre). Iwhnurọhna, in Ikwere parlance, means the face of the community (town, city or village).

Nigerian colonial history records that the name "Ikwerre" was given by the colonial administration when they wanted to acquire the Rebisi waterfront to build the wharf. Using an Ibo interpreter to talk to the illiterate Rebisi (Port Harcourt) chiefs, they asked them: Would you permit us to use the waterfront to build the wharf for ships to berth? And they answered: A KWERULEM, meaning - "We have agreed." What the white-man was hearing was "Ikwerre," so he recorded it in the official gazette that the IKWERRE PEOPLE have agreed for the colonial administration to build the wharf. And since it was the official record of government, the name Ikwerre became the name of the Iwhnurohna people in all official documentations till date.

Similar cases of Anglicization of native names in the Niger Delta region by the colonial administration are Benin for Bini, Okrika for Wakrike, Degema for Udekema, Abonnema for Obonoma, Brass for Gbara sni, Bonny for Ibani, Pepple for Perekule, Ahoada for Ehuda, etc

Even so, “… there were dissenting voices, … who believed that Ikwerre origins lay outside Igbo land, … in the Benin Kingdom of old. It is, therefore, obvious that the interminable debate about Ikwerre origins and migrations including the repudiation of the Igbo tradition is not a phenomenon of the post-civil war period. The controversy, as it were, is not necessarily the product of the present political realities wherein groups which hitherto were seen to have cultural affinities now find themselves in different states or administrative systems.”  -- K.O. Amadi (1993)

The Ogbakor Ikwerre Convention, a cultural organization of Ikwerre people, in a paper presented to the Human Rights Violation Commission headed by Rtd. Justice Chukwudifu Oputa on 10 October 2001, said: “Ikwerre ethnic nationality is not and has never been a sub-group of any other tribe in Nigeria including Ndi-Igbo. There is no doubt that the advent of the British and later regionalization put Ndi-Igbo at the helm of affairs in Eastern Nigeria. This brought Ndi-Igbo into Ikwerre land. In course of time, the Igbo took advantage of their position in the then Eastern Regional Government to grab land in Ikwerre and occupy political positions such as the mayor of Port Harcourt. In the process, Ikwerre along with other minority groups were marginalized and driven to the background.”

Professor Godwin Tasie noted that in 1913 the Rt Rev Herbert Tugwell, the Anglican Bishop on the Niger, undertook an experimentation tour of Ikwerre towns and villages assumed to be Ibo-speaking to test the Union Ibo Bible Nso being introduced in Iboland. "Tugwell discovered from the tests he carried out that although the Ikwerre were often regarded  as Ibo… the Union Ibo Bible translation, surprisingly, was not easily understood by the Ikwere." This is obviously why Igbo vernacular was compulsorily introduced and taught in all schools in Ikwerreland before the Nigerian Civil War to the assimilation (i.e. destruction) of the Ikwere language.

This also obviously led to the Rumuomasi Declaration in 1965. " … in their meeting at Rumuomasi in 1965 the Ikwerre had, under the umbrella of a highly promising new body that was to get the Ikwerre together as a people of new and clearer vision, they had declared themselves as a people of the distinct identity of Ikwerre Ethnic Nationality - not Ibo, not Ijo, not anything else but Ikwerre, Iwhnurọhna. This was the historic Rumuomasi Declaration of 1965 (G.O.M. Tasie, 2000). The full implication is that Ikwere people began to assert themselves forcefully as an ethnic nationality of their own and not Ibos or Ijos, and efforts were made to revert to the original Ikwere names for families, villages, communities and landmarks. For instance, there was the change from Umuola to Rumuola, Umuoro to Rumuoro, Umukrushi to Rumuokwurusi,  just to name a few.




T O N Y   E N Y I A,  PhD, MNIM                                                                        
CHAIRMAN, BOARD OF TRUSTEES
IWHNURỌHNA CHRISTIAN ASSOCIATION
Saturday, 5 February 2011

Ikwerre Bini! Madness in display. Come and say it here in P/H and watch if your head won't leave your body.

dearpreye:
Whoever says slavery has been abolished should have a rethink. Slavery is still real, alive and kicking. As energy cannot be destroyed but can be transformed from one form to the other, so is slavery. It the past it used to be in the form of transatlantic slavery trade, later it transformed into colonialism, later to neo-colonialism, and then to internal colonialism. Of all these forms, the last form seems the worst to me. In the internal, you're hardly aware of it because of its subtlety and legalism.

God knows I don't have the mentality of the average South South person. I'm yet to see a people so engrossed in today's crumbs that they become totally dumb and numb to the challenges and joys of tomorrow. I'm yet to see a people so happy in backwardness and poverty. They will never read history. Even when they do, its just to fulfill some academic purpose. They will never learn. They will never see the bigger picture. They are almost always at the mercies of their parasites. SMH! Mental slavery is terrible. Any man who lives without tomorrow in mind is dead, buried and sealed , while yet he lives.


[b]Nonso Okey Okpala

For those vomiting thrash, Slavery of the mind is very bad. In 1967 the Hausa Fulanis told some disgrutled Ikwerres, Kalabaris, Efiks, Anangs, Ibibios, izon, and Okirikans that the Igbos were interested in their oil. They foolishly accepted and joined the enemy in bed. After the war the truth of those really interested in oil emerged.
The Hausa Fulanis and Yorubas killed Adaka Bolo before he could demand for his region.
They quickly shared the oil well and destroyed the land. Unfortunately the indigenes were helpless because they fought against their brothers.
The Ogonis were raped by Col. Oguntimo led forces. Saro Wiwa was killed by the Hausas. Yet the young men remained ignorant and hopless. How many of those people were killed by Igbos.


The SS are the most hopless set of people in the whole world. An adage says that when people unirate together it will foam.
It is also good to chase away the fox and then ask the mother hen what she was looking for in the bush. Anytime the SE and SS attempt to come together, the fifth columnist will appear.

Is there any where indigenously called the NIGER DELTA? What is the name of the people living in the area called Niger delta? Niger delta is an area not a people. You are either Ijaw, Igbo, Urohbo, Okirika, Kalabari, Itshekiri, Anioma, Ikwerre, Etche etc. All these area were originally called BIAFRA and this is contained in the document singned by the British during trade before colonialism.

We are very unwise. Anambra state pays more wages to civil servants than Delta State, Rivers State, Bayelsa State, Akwa ibom state. And you are talking of oil. Which oil? Rubbish. People are building cars, manufacturing and making billion. See you see America, see France, see Britain.

Your land is laid waste and you are talking our oil. Wake up.
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Thought provoking article. Let the deaf hear.

NDPVF:
Much reason i suscribed to Biafra/Lower Niger independence.Nigeria is a dream killer.

Get out from my head. How did you pick my words?

AnambraDota:
This is where Igbos return attack for an attack either in Igboland or whenever there is attack on Igbos outside Igboland.

During Cartoon Riot there was massive riot in East but non in West, during Miss World there was reprisal in East but non in West.

Any day the madness of the North let lose the cure always come from the East, below is Eastern attacks on the wild animals.

www.nairaland.com/1842053/3-fulani-killed-abakaliki-pictures




news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/661140.stm

www.premiumtimesng.com/regional/ssouth-east/3725-trigger-happy_police_officer_triggers_riots_in_onitsha.html

www.nairaland.com/867378/confusion-asaba-igbo-hausa-clash

https://disqus.com/home/discussion/punchmobile/mob_attack_police_boss_in_aba_over_traders8217_death/

www.usafricaonline.com/shariashowdown_chido.html


https://olivernwokedi./2015/07/16/breaking-news-tension-in-owerri-as-locals-attack-hausa-community-over-demolition-of-illegal-structures/

www.igberetvnews.com/?p=608

www.vanguardngr.com/2014/11/4-killed-owerri-abonema-bloody-attacks/


www.thegatewaypundit.com/2006/02/christians-strike-back-in-southern-nigeria/

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Below is where Yorubas are attacked and killed in Yorubaland but we couldn't hear or see any reprisal from them.


www.punchng.com/news/hausa-youths-attack-yoruba-in-osun-five-injured/

www.nairaland.com/2190725/hausa-youths-attack-yoruba-osun/2

www.premiumtimesng.com/news/143235-halt-the-attack-on-yorubas-groups-warn.html

www.punchng.com/metro/hausa-yoruba-clash-in-lagos-over-murdered-youth/

www.anothergist.com/2015/07/hausas-flee-ikorodu-after-thugs.html?m=1

www.tatafonaija.com/2015/08/scavenger-stabs-generator-repairer-to-death-over-rabbits-photo/

www.osundefender.org/?p=117750

Knockout punch. Thought someone said the Ibos don't reply the Hausas.

AustineE1:
Op pls do not misinform the populace,atleast we read about the Kiriji war and no where was it mentioned that Ekiti Parapo or Ibadan purchased canon guns.It was stated clearly from the book i read,that the war was notable for its use of charms,even Obadoke Latoosa whom you said was a general,was refered to as a notorious babalawo(native doctor). I dont know where you got your story line from,its full of sensationalism.
And history puts it that the war only ended when the Fulanis joined the Oyo empire and it was observed that their intention was to take over the entire Yoruba land,and equaly enslave the populace,this made the war weary yorubas to immediately call for a truce....the book simply puts it that the coming of the Fulanis was the game changer. Pls get your facts right.

Fulani ke!

Duru1:
This is definitely from Opu-obu (Opobo). The people are Igbo.

The Ibani (Bonny and Opobo) were the originators of the boat regatta, I agree. But, since the creation of Rivers state and with Government support of CANIRIV virtually every ethnic group in Rivers now participate in the regatta. For instance, the crew you saw in that picture are actually Ogonis from Khana local government. However, the Opobos and Bonnys still celebrate a separate regatta held during the Nwaotam festival.

zuchyblink:
I detest any form of independent Igbo nation that includes non Igbos and only ignorant Nigerians keep talking about crude oil outside Igbo land being sought by the Igbos because such people do not know that majority of the oil wells in Nigeria (outside those offshore out there in the Atlantic ocean) are in Igbo lands whether in the present day South East or parts of the Igbo lands in Rivers state for example. Any non Igbo from the South South that keeps talking about the Igbos wanting their crude oil is suffering from gross ignorance. Interestingly, the future is gas and not crude oil. The fact that NLNG is making huge returns when crude oil prices are very low is a pointer to this fact and guess what? Anambra state is sitting on a huge gas reserve and when exploited will make nonsense of the crude oil Nigerians are chasing up and down and killing others for. An independent Igbo nation has everything (human and natural resources) it needs to become a progressive nation. The first operational headquarters of Shell was in present day Imo state and the crude oil in Imo, Abia and Anambra states is enough for the Igbos while the coal in Nigeria can provide constant electricity for the entire region apart from the fact that you can produce fuel from the same coal by forcing hydrogen on coal (hydrogenation process) and that is if you are not interested in building a strong steel industry by combining coal (from Enugu) with iron ore (from Ebonyi). The Igbos don't need a single drop of crude oil from non Igbo lands!!! I have noticed that non Igbos are mainly the people giving themselves headaches concerning the Igbos and how they can survive on their own. Unfortunately, such people are busy thinking about the Igbos instead of them to be worrying about things like poverty, religious fundamentalism, prostitution, armed robbery, joblessness, boko haram etc in their own backyards.

Let he who has ears hear.

Sweetlemon:
What state are you from?

Check my profile.

Take a look at this picture and you'll wonder if this was taken from the SE. But no, this a pure Rivers state cultural photo, live from the boat regatta. Another, thing about this dress is that it is a common cultural attire adorn by virtually every ethnic group in Rivers State.

These are typical Rivers native attires.
The First by uplanders.
The Second and Third is worn for ceremonial or casual gathering.
The Fourth by the Ibani.

Sweetlemon:
Igbo Deltans in the house na true?
The last time I was in Asaba, the Igbo Deltans wore bowler hats and all like other SS people. They also love fish too and they enjoy banga and starch like the average Deltan.
In fact apart from the Igbo language I don't see much difference.

My people in Rivers wear the bowler hat and a dinstint flowing native called Etibo. Most people sometimes adorn the attire with a typical red skull cap worn by SEasterners. This clothing is totally different from the ones worn by the Urhobos and Itshekiris. Those who wear the Etibo as us are the Kalabaris, Ogonis, Ikwerres, Okrikas and Ibanis. Occasionally we wear the silk red and white strip Igbo mazi head gear for our festivities.
Secondly, we are Palmwine drinkers. Ogogoro or Schnapps is preserved for prayers, guests and other spiritual obligations.

trapQ:
Why did you just assume I'm from Edo? When did say I was from Edo?? Mind you, the Igbo's don't own obigbo. That Igbo's are there doesn't mean they own obigbo. Same way china town is in U.S. it doesn't mean the Chinese own it.

I can never even date an Igbo man, so you made no point. Not even in my nightmares.

I don't know why that explorer dude is quoting you. So a SW fool who has not crossed his region before is coming out here to disprove what is a known fact. Okay, we've heard you. Obigbo is a Yoruba town. They speak Oyo dialect. They have an Oba as King. Amala and Ewedu is their native delicacy and they have tribal marks just like the Yoruba. Hope you're happy now.

Hahahaha! Why remind them. I thought they knew?

atbu1983:
I can tell you with all certainty most south south people want the ideal Niger Delta. I work and live in portharcourt. I have discussed this issue with many niger deltans including some delta ibo from Ndokwa (kwale). i have discussed this issue with urhobo, isoko, ikwerre and some Ijaw,They share my view. Leave the election out of it. not all niger deltans share same view with you when it comes to the election. In 2011, the Yoruba and North central voted Jonathan in large proportion, that doesnt make them Niger delta. because Ibos voted jonathan in 2015 does not make them south south. South east voted Jonathan because they believe Jonathan will treat them better and because they have beef for north. They did not support Jonathan because they want to favour south south. I agree with Asari dokubo when he said "Jonathan is not the symbol of Niger Delta struggle, he is just a beneficiary"

I understand the fact that you are delta ibo, you are more likely to be sympathetic to biafra.

Biafra is not a Niger Delta struggle. Biafra is an igbo struggle. If you want a struggle were you will get a full support of Niger Deltans, it has to be a niger delta movement. Anything outside that, you wont succeed in getting full support. we the niger deltans are the one who the Unitary system is most affected. We have to be the centre and the main cause of the struggle. it has to be our struggle. This is very important and must be spelt out from the very begining or else we will regret it later.

Point of correction, I'm not from Delta. I'm a Rivers man. I wouldn't want to delve into the ethnic make up of the South-South. But, you may be shock if I tell you that they are as much Pro Biafrans in my community than the whole South East.
You may want to shy away from it, but the fact remains that many Rivers indigene are Pro Biafrian just as the SEasterners. Forget the regional demarcation that we've found ourselves in. Yes, we may have our fears as it concerns the attitude of the mainstream Igbos. Yet, that doesn't mean we don't share a lot in common.

atbu1983:
I fully support your position as long as we have our own mission and vision. It should be a movement driven by south south and also the name Biafra must not be mentioned near it. SE can support us if they love us, but it must not be for them to come and cajole us to form biafra with them. South south people dream is not biafra. Our dream is Niger delta freedom. We need to form a new organisation and publicise it among all south south people. We the south south people should be the driver of the course.

They are free to struggle for Biafra. We are free to struggle for our "Niger Delta Republic", "United Lower Niger Delta States", etc. any name we choose we can use.

They should be the one to come and meet us to join us. we will give them terms and condition.

I hate it with passion when i hear things like, there will be referedom among south south people on whether they want to join Biafra or not! I hate that statement with passion!!

It should rather be a referedom, where the South East are asked whether they want to join our Niger delta nation according to our terms!!

Many of our folks down here feels the same way too. However, with recent events that have unfolded before our very own eyes, coupled with the proceedings of the last election the SEasterner have gained our respect and trust. We and the SE need each other more than never before. The SEasterners also suffer the same brunt of an average Niger Deltan. However, I strongly believe that our interest will be fiercely protected in our alignment with them. We can come together in a round table and sort out our differences.
Lastly, the South-South is a conglomerate of many ethnic groups and within that ethnic groupings they exist Igboid tribes that share the same aspiration with the Mainstream Igbos. These people( of which I'm part of) may not share the same ideal Niger Delta Republic with you. Have you wondered if the Biafra idea is appealing to them? Or do you force them into your new republic without due consultation and in due cause have another breakaway republic secceeding from the Niger Delta Republic.
I myself, want a prosperous confederate Nigeria, where every region is allowed to control its resources and move at its own pace. I want a country of equality and justice. Yet, I fear that the Nigerian system is hell bent in maintaining the status quo.

Observant:
On regionalism or balkanization we stand.
1999 Constitution which was derived from military degrees has to be scrapped.

Definitely, we cannot run a fiscal confederalism with a military constitution. It must give way to a people's constitution that reflects the will of the people. Yet, will the north succumb to it. I don't think so!

Yujin:
There are few ways to go about it but I'm certain it doesn't involve getting into alliance with the Yorubas. Already they are a defeated people when you look at their availability to be subservient to the Hausa/fulanis unless they prove otherwise which I doubt they will. What we need do is to strengthen our alliances and cooperation among the SE/SS and deal with any area where doubt and suspicion may arise. Any ethnic supremacist should not be entertained. Then we must persuade our people to be selective in their choice of areas to invest. Dangote is doing this already because he knows 'whats up'. Then our politicians should be held accountable for every mandate given to them even if it means we use some as examples to let others know that we serious. With this we can push for a restructure. If this fails then we can prepare for war. Then strategically we must turn some peoples land to the war theatre so that they can understand how it feels. I have said much already. They have little control over all that I've said.

Honestly, I applaud all the points you've raised. But for me, I think its time we carry out this enlightenment to all nooks and cranny of the Niger Delta. Many of our people are oblivious of the threat we face as a people. Our region is plundered and exploited by the owners of Nigeria, while we are left to scupper for crumbs. We must take our destiny in our hands and campaign in our villages, our higher instituition and town halls.
Secondly, Just like the Scots, we should ensure that only Pro Lower Niger Congressmen represents us in the Legislature. Men like Adaka Boro and Ojukwu who have the interest of the people at heart. And who are not ready to bow down to threats, harrasments and monetary inducements. Any potential Zikist whose heart is more nationalist than regionalistic should be barred from representing us.This should herald the drastic steps for a referendum.

Yujin:
Do not fear them rather be wary of them. I tell you the truth: those people have more conscience than a majority of Oduduwa's offsprings. Former CBN governor Sanusi admitted and mentioned the great wickedness met on the Igbo people openly but till date no Yorubaman has ever done so in recent times. Who are those who are quick to upload pictures of dying women and children of the genocidal civil war called biafran war? See how they constantly put dissension among people of the old eastern region so that they can easily continue to steal from the regions. No Yorubaman will ever ask the FG to build another seaport in the ss so as to decongest Lagos but they will be quick to threaten people to leave their region. We all witnessed the last election and we saw how they kept mute to the underage voters in the north but still went on to call it the freest and fairest election simply because it didn't favour Gej. It took another northerner to say the truth which is that it is the almaJiri(underage) votes that ensured buhari won the election. I have come to understand that majority of the Yorubas have suppressed their conscience. It is their choice and they have made. May they live with the consequences of their choice.

Since these are facts that lay bare before us, what then do you think we do. Can we achieve this noble cause in alliance with our perceived foes? Or do we dare the consequences, the harrasments and unite with one voice in pursuit for a just cause.

dearpreye:
I hate to admit it bit it's obvious the Whites are superior to the blacks. The last year Scotland Referendum is a case in point. The Scottish people decided, without guns and violence, to do a referendum to seek to continue or otherwise with the UK. That was the smartest display of maturity and values I've seen displayed by a people in many years. Today, within a devolved system, Scotland, Wales and Northern Island, have a huge say in their own affairs.

Can the blacks do same? They will rather commit a genocide than do what the superior Scotland people did.

You hit the nail on the head. History is replete with devious atrocities of the black man towards fellow black all in the name of secession. A case point is Nigeria during the civil war, Congo, Rwanda, Sierra-Leone and Liberia. In the case of Nigeria and albeit Rwanda, genocidal acts were committed by vicious elements who deliberately singled out a people as scapegoat for the failure of nationhood.
We were witnesses to the maturity of nationhood, when Britain carried out a peaceful referendum in Scotland. Now, substitute Britain for Nigeria and all you get is war, violence and mutilations instigated by blockhead leaders grappling with the regional and ethnic dynamics of the country. Until we toe the line of civilization, Nigeria to the eyes of the world will continue be seen as a cesspit. May God help us all in this zoo.

Beremx:
its obvious the protection seeker has brainwashed a lot of you minions. So Barcanista is now your reliable source?

Sorry for you!

I just told you the issue you brought up is nothing but pure propaganda. I provided a thread to the topic and never delved into insults. So for you, highlighting the truth has suddenly turned to being brainwashed.

Beremx:
Jonathan who is from the SS did not liberate his people from modern day slavery when he ruled Nigeria for close to 6years. Now,you blame it on the Fulanis?

A Fulani man who is President is about cleaning up the mess in Ogoni land. Something an Ijaw president couldn't do because he's not from Ogoni.

You can continue wailing o! Na free of charge!

Biggest scam of the century. Only a toddler will applaud such lies. I thought Barcanista opened a thread on the bolded.
Here is the link.
www.nairaland.com/2509658/ogoni-clean-up-nothing-started

We need more of this kind of thread. Well done DearPreye. We must say no to parasitism and exploitation. We either Restructure or Divide.

I wish to inform all here that the moniker HopeAthand who claims to be an Ikwerre is a not from Rivers state. He is an imposter from the SW whose objective is to cause rift and disharmony between we from Rivers state and those from the SE. He speaks for himself and not for us. Read this:

Culled from the thread: How Igbos Are Treated in The North.

You thought you were smart all the while until you carelessly busted your cover with your divide and rule tactics. You first tried to cause a rift between the SE/SS. Someone cautioned but we didn't pay attention to him. Maybe because he was from the SE. This was his comment.

CyberWolf :
this thread was just moving fine until you started playing the ethnic card..Why did you start calling Igbos? Is Igbos that created the 12 states? Is it Igbos that increased it to 19? If I insult you, it will look as if I'm a bad person ...Anyway continue with your lies

You responded with this comment:

HopeAtHand :
So are you're infering that Major Chukwuma K. Nzeogwu didn't scuttle true federalism or he isnt Igbo..or what?
Are you also saying Aguiyi-Ironsi did not make a decree uniting all regions under him as a precursor to Unitary system or he isnt Igbo..What is the problem mister??
Or are you saying Irinsi passed when in earnest he failed woefully when he refused to deal with Nzeogwu and conduct fresh elections and return Nigeria back to regional system of govt?
What!!!!!!

Notwithstanding your smartness (even when you were trying to deviate all blames to the Igbos). You then deviously device another plan. This time you decided to turn your fist on your supposed state. This was you divisive comment.

Not just the village, the argument will end at the family level.the family who owns the land will demand their land, their oil.
The true federalism or fiscal federalism or whatever its called will be argued nonstop.agitations and court cases and judgements will abound because the Nigerian sectionalism has eaten so deep..The local govt chairman may become the juiciest elected position...You see local councils splitting along clannish lines.That is when you will know that in Opobo, the Nkoro man (maybe because he produces the bulk of the oil in Opobo) wil say his clan should be a separate Lg and agitate for that..The Ogu man in Ogu/Bolo same thing, the Akporman in Obio/Akpor LGA.
The endpoint will be the family within the locality where the mineral resource comes from..they will want control of resource wirhin their land..That is true federalism to me.

You foolishly continued with this.

HopeAtHand :
If other regions arent alien, give Ogonis the opportunity to leave Nigeria and see if they will invite the Okrika man to join them though they've been neighbours for centuries
Truth be told, the tribalism and sectionalism has gotten deep into the marrow of Nigeria..most tribes/erhnic groups believe that that their destiny isnt attached to another tribe and they will happily go it alone...
Im asking you if not for geographic boundaries thay puts some of us in same state what do we have in common both in language and culture.
Am not 'happy my resources end up in the North', am also not happy it is shared in some part of the south..but i will be most satisfied if i held onto all of it..what is mine is for me alone.

And this:

Oil politics 101 for you..Who is delaying the cleanup of Ogoniland after the UNEP report adviced same, the Ijaws in Ogu bolo LGA.
Why did the Ikwerre people of Nkpolu-Oroworukwo disagre that RSUST should not be moved to another Ikwerre town of Igwuruta...this is what it is...u cant blame me for spotting it out, i did not invent sectionism
When we are ready for fiscal federalism, you will know..we will start showing ourselves love by not embezzling funds and standing in the way of progress of neighbouring tribes/ethnicities

Then we eventually took you serious, first by:

Mogidi :
Lets not go there mate.
If Opobo is pumping 200,000bpd of crude oil, should the village where the oil is located enjoy it alone or should the whole Opobo reap the benefits?
Give it to the states and the scenario you painted above won't occur.

You're arguing from the stand point of an anarchist.
You paint other lga as aliens, your perspective is shallow, look at the bigger picture. Are you happy now that the bulk of your resources ends up in the north?

Then Atlwireles:

atlwireles :
What have you learnt from this OP? think outside the box ,.God bless NL, as the bible says, by their fruits we shall know them. When a person thinks like a duck, quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, they cannot be called a goat. Mogidi don't waste your time with him.

Then by me:

Eastlink :
The Ogoni man and the Okrika man have a whole lot in common regardless of the Oil. The same goes for other minorities in the ND by virtue of similar culture, religion, political affiliation and regional consciousness which began centuries ago. So please limit your shallowness when out to make your sentimental points.

Again

Your arguments are baseless. In immediate families there are evidence of brothers going against brothers just to have their individual interests protected. That doesn't make them enemies. The same dilemma is witnessed everywhere around the globe.

Finally this is how we finally nailed the imposter:
This is the link:
www.nairaland.com/2441434/nigeria-still-date-truth/7

Hopeathand
You thought you were smart all the while until you carelessly busted your cover with your divide and rule tactics. You first tried to cause a rift between the SE/SS. Someone cautioned but we didn't pay attention to him. Maybe because he was from the SE. This was his comment.

CyberWolf :
this thread was just moving fine until you started playing the ethnic card..Why did you start calling Igbos? Is Igbos that created the 12 states? Is it Igbos that increased it to 19? If I insult you, it will look as if I'm a bad person ...Anyway continue with your lies

You responded with this comment:

HopeAtHand :
So are you're infering that Major Chukwuma K. Nzeogwu didn't scuttle true federalism or he isnt Igbo..or what?
Are you also saying Aguiyi-Ironsi did not make a decree uniting all regions under him as a precursor to Unitary system or he isnt Igbo..What is the problem mister??
Or are you saying Irinsi passed when in earnest he failed woefully when he refused to deal with Nzeogwu and conduct fresh elections and return Nigeria back to regional system of govt?
What!!!!!!

Notwithstanding your smartness (even when you were trying to deviate all blames to the Igbos). You then deviously device another plan. This time you decided to turn your fist on your supposed state. This was you divisive comment.

Not just the village, the argument will end at the family level.the family who owns the land will demand their land, their oil.
The true federalism or fiscal federalism or whatever its called will be argued nonstop.agitations and court cases and judgements will abound because the Nigerian sectionalism has eaten so deep..The local govt chairman may become the juiciest elected position...You see local councils splitting along clannish lines.That is when you will know that in Opobo, the Nkoro man (maybe because he produces the bulk of the oil in Opobo) wil say his clan should be a separate Lg and agitate for that..The Ogu man in Ogu/Bolo same thing, the Akporman in Obio/Akpor LGA.
The endpoint will be the family within the locality where the mineral resource comes from..they will want control of resource wirhin their land..That is true federalism to me.

You foolishly continued with this.

HopeAtHand :
If other regions arent alien, give Ogonis the opportunity to leave Nigeria and see if they will invite the Okrika man to join them though they've been neighbours for centuries
Truth be told, the tribalism and sectionalism has gotten deep into the marrow of Nigeria..most tribes/erhnic groups believe that that their destiny isnt attached to another tribe and they will happily go it alone...
Im asking you if not for geographic boundaries thay puts some of us in same state what do we have in common both in language and culture.
Am not 'happy my resources end up in the North', am also not happy it is shared in some part of the south..but i will be most satisfied if i held onto all of it..what is mine is for me alone.

And this:

Oil politics 101 for you..Who is delaying the cleanup of Ogoniland after the UNEP report adviced same, the Ijaws in Ogu bolo LGA.
Why did the Ikwerre people of Nkpolu-Oroworukwo disagre that RSUST should not be moved to another Ikwerre town of Igwuruta...this is what it is...u cant blame me for spotting it out, i did not invent sectionism
When we are ready for fiscal federalism, you will know..we will start showing ourselves love by not embezzling funds and standing in the way of progress of neighbouring tribes/ethnicities

Then we eventually took you serious, first by:

Mogidi :
Lets not go there mate.
If Opobo is pumping 200,000bpd of crude oil, should the village where the oil is located enjoy it alone or should the whole Opobo reap the benefits?
Give it to the states and the scenario you painted above won't occur.

You're arguing from the stand point of an anarchist.
You paint other lga as aliens, your perspective is shallow, look at the bigger picture. Are you happy now that the bulk of your resources ends up in the north?

Then Atlwireles:

atlwireles :
What have you learnt from this OP? think outside the box ,.God bless NL, as the bible says, by their fruits we shall know them. When a person thinks like a duck, quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, they cannot be called a goat. Mogidi don't waste your time with him.

Then by me:

Eastlink :
The Ogoni man and the Okrika man have a whole lot in common regardless of the Oil. The same goes for other minorities in the ND by virtue of similar culture, religion, political affiliation and regional consciousness which began centuries ago. So please limit your shallowness when out to make your sentimental points.

Again

Your arguments are baseless. In immediate families there are evidence of brothers going against brothers just to have their individual interests protected. That doesn't make them enemies. The same dilemma is witnessed everywhere around the globe.

Finally this is how we finally nailed the imposter:
This is the link:
www.nairaland.com/2441434/nigeria-still-date-truth/7

HopeAtHand:
Point out the thread, thats the least you can do to stake that assertion.

Stinking Liar. Thank God that thread is still active and no amount of editing can save you. This is just the beginning of your woes. You Imposter.
This is where you were busted.
www.nairaland.com/2441434/nigeria-still-date-truth/7