₦airaland Forum

scholes0:
Where in Uvwie

Ugbolokposo area.. that land belongs to uvwie.

Realhommie:
You're right, the Urhobo's aren't United..


Isn't it the state govt that should settle the land dispute btw the Ijaws and the Urhobo's in Aladja? What are they doing about it coz there's been so much killing going on there lately? And what role is the UPU playing or are they only interested in politics and not the welfare of it's people?

what did the state government do during the warri crises?, forget about UPU, they are not representing at all at all.

Realhommie:
They were very enlightened then, they used that influence.. The Itsekiri's are very learned people.

But they can't lay claim to Ugbomro/Ebrumede anymore, dem no fit try am sef.. Their boundary na from that Ugbolokposo junction to the high tension by Okoribi.. Na there e end and na our people lose guard that's why.

they also got the backing of the south western media, we still haven't forgotten what awolowo did, Truth is the urhobos are not united, we only know how to stab each other.

the ijaws are currently encroaching into our land in Aladja axis, yet nobody talking about it.

scholes0:
Have itsekiris ever claimed ownership of those places?
So what are you saying

Although I know there are some itsekiri villages in the Sapele and Ethiope area.

bit by bit Uvwie territory are been claimed every year, last three years okpe youth clashed with the same itsekiri.

scholes0:
80% maybe sha.

But in Warri gan-gan maybe 20%

you can say "Old warri", but urhobo land is still more than that, Development is fast spreading into Uvwie and okpe which are 100% Urhobo.

So make we see hw them one take claim am.

Realhommie:
I see "Ugbolokposo Town, Warri" there.. The boat decorated with yellow. How is Ugbolokposo town in Warri, or is Effurun now Warri?

Where they are in Effurun they even dragged the place.. Mtcheeeeeeeew

Ugbomro, Ebrumede peninsula were ceded to them in 1976, With the help of the police & Government urhobos were unable to do anything .

scholes0:
Okun Kpikpa

Red sea

And the river looks truly reddish.




Warri (The town) was actually a colonial era town built by the Btitish from scratch) So originally traditionally speaking it should have no paramount king in the state ictest sense (so to speak)- a situation similar to Kaduna, Jos or Enugu.

Kaduna for example has no traditional emirate being a colonial era settlement, but is built on land traditionally under the control of the Emirate of zazzau (based further north in Zaria)

In the same light-

The original land on which the first and oldest/original part of the city of Warri was built- i.e where the city started out from was within the Itsekiri cultural area- so, it is under the Olu’s purview- Although as a colonial era town, the traditional palace of the Olu was not inside the town- The town derived its bame from the word “Iwerre” the traditional name of the Itsekiris.

Although warri metropolis has now spread to the neighboring urhobo local governments of Udu and Uvwie.
Ijaws have the weakest link to the actual city- and I am still teying to understand what their own claim hinges on. The Itsekiris and the Urhobos, we can all understand.

nice.. also Urhobo land makes up 80% of the present city.

Nice outfit by the olu.

Sanchez01:
It is a natural scene with public schools both within the SS and your underdeveloped Biafra. Not withstanding,

Not every fool you reply.. I don't know whats their problem with urhobo, abi na urhobo cause the one them they?

Apart from that, Most schools were renovated not too long ago by uduagha, it's a shame that we have bad maintenance culture.

And this is not limited to urhobo land, Nigeria is cursed with bad leaders.

FemiFimile:
No nothing like dat, they should just cut the ijaws out of Edo into Delta where they belong.

The ijaws in Edo are spill over from Delta, they need to return dem to delta via border demarcation.

Oba of Benin cannot be Monarch to Ijaw people, that is wholly unacceptable.

Respect other ethnic group, their language and culture, dont dominate anybody especially not with force and threats.

This is y people are calling for restructuring to end all this type of conflict.

exactly. this is what I have been saying.

Olu317:
Oh k. I do appreciate your own research if it is true.Furthermore, Ògèdèngbè was a fusion of Ogèdè + ngbè. A more or less ,meaning a statement or promise, in which such is enrooted in its efficacy on the law of nature. In summary, Ogèdè is efficacy of law of Nature + aided or supported by same nature on peculiar human being.

my bad, actually thought they had the same meaning, since yoruboid and edoid shares alot especially in words and language, for example some urhobo words means exactly the same in Yoruba, eg olori, Oda (Udah in ilaje), Omo, etc.

Hope I didn't derailed your thread?

where is lalasticlala and seun self..

All Nigeria regions are not developed, in fact even the over hyped Lagos is a big slum, only some selected places are
okay, let's say 2/10th of Lagos.

Generally speaking, if we are to choose without being emotional, then it's southwest, they have Ibadan, Lagos, ogun.

loveth360:
going by statistics the internet has show me 90%hate igbos.yes i mean 90% for the benefit of doubt...

So igbos love all the tribes abi?

you guys generalize when it comes to other tribe, and when same is done to you you cry people are jealous of your "PROGRESS ".

Good and bad spouse has nothing to do with tribe or religion.

It's Normal for men to marry outside their tribe, for example the urhobos and itsekiris even upon all their beef they still end up marrying each other, in fact you can't see any itsekiri family without trace to urhobo, this doesn't mean urhobo or itsekiri ladies are bad.

We have more Yoruba men marrying deltans / Edo than Yoruba men marrying igbo but you won't see them creating thread upandan to insult anybody .

you say Mr A hates you because you are not from his tribe, my question is do you love others who are not from your tribe?

JoNach:
Just imagine !! No regard for women in the north , that's why they marry as many as they wish to. He should go and try this with Edo or Warri girl, what you'll hear is that "he has been buried according to islamic rites"

area!!

Konquest:
^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ Gurus in the building...I have learned a lot more on Yoruba words, etymology and culture from you!

@ Efewestern,
@Olu317 wants you to tell us the meaning of Ogedegbe in the Edoid languages.
Thanks!

to my little understanding it means big crew in edoid.
Will verify later and repost.

Probz:
I don’t know how much influence Edo people has on Eastern Yorubaland (at least not in language). You sure of what you’re saying?

It's a known fact, for example the culture of the ilajes are similar to that of bini, not only ilaje almost all yoruboid group in Ondo and also itsekiri.

Those areas were at some time controlled by the binis, thou they still retain their original Yoruba language.

tintingz:
Pure magical tricks.

The bees are trained, it's called Hymenoptera training, bees and wasps are intelligent, they use odour and other stuffs to train them.

Saying this to be supernatural things is lame, only rural and semi-developed area with backward people will believe this to be juju.

you think you are doing us?, be deceiving yourself.

There are powers, doesn't matter if you believe or not.

scholes0:
Some Itsekiri names and their Yoruba equivalents:

Abidemi - Abidemi
Omatsone - Omosheni
Gbubemi - Gbebemi
Meyiwa - Muyiwa
Tuoyo - Tayo
Timeyin - Timileyin
Eyinangho- Eyinlanwo
Mofe - Mofe
Shola - Shola
Olu - Olu
Jemide - Jemide
Oludewa - Oludewa
Boyowa - Bayowa
Jolomi - Jolomi / Tunmise
Eyitemi - Eyitemi
Temisan - Temisan
Edema - Edema (Only in Ilaje and Ijebu)
Adenuyiri - Adeniyi
Omawumi - Omowumi
Tosan - Tosan
Ayiri - Ayin
Bamigho - Bamiwo
Sheyi/Tseyi - Sheyi
Amaju/Amajuoritse - Amoju/Amojuoluwa
Omadeli - Omodele
Boyo - Bayo

Countless more.


Most Itsekiri names are practically all yoruba names with a delta twist. (Except the ones borrowed from some of their neighbora like Urhobos and Ijaws)

my little contribution

waje

Jolomi (ilaje and itsekiri)

Tosan

tshola not shola (Always add ur "t" to it)

Ayomike

Oyo (Ayo in Yoruba)

etc.

Konquest:
^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^
Someone I knew back in my undergraduate days in Nigeria had
"Okoro" as his surname. He was a full-blooded, pounded yam-loving Ekiti
guy!

Okoro has something to do with "bitterness" according to the Ekiti version. Urhobos also bear Okoro
as surnames. Oko has something to do
with "man" in Itsekiri and Urhobo.

On the other hand Itsekiris use the spelling
: Ogedegbe! In other parts of Yoruba, Ogedengbe with a letter "n" is used.

Itsekiris also use Omatsola, Omawumi etc.
Omosola and Omowumi are the Yoruba
equivalents.

Itsekiri language is classified as Eastern
Yoruboid just like the Ondo state sub groups.


All the best.

just want to deviate a little.

Ogedegbe is an edoid word.

Urhobo Also bears ogedegbe, and it means the same thing, Eastern yorubas were greatly influenced by Edo reason itsekiri and ilajes bear it.

thank me later.

hopefulLandlord:
let me play the impasta's advocate here

I can kill someone and say I did good!, if someone is attempting to kill my daughter, I pull my gun, shit at him and he dies, I can say I've done a "good thing" even though I just killed someone

"Who will help the poor and say he did bad?" Theists if the voice in their head (which they call their god's voice) told them not to help but they still went ahead to help

lol.. the guy is just shooting himself in the foot, I myself am a Christian and I believe in God .

you can imagine him trying to relate good things to only Christianity when half the world population are not even Christian.

I watched a program yesterday on Aljazeera and this was actually the topic, an atheist was invited and believe me I so much enjoy the discussion.

DoctorAlien:
You don't get it do you?

The issue is not whether I can do good acts without God; it is that without God:

1. There is nobody or group of persons to reveal what is objectively good. Whenever a person or group of persons says that a thing is good, they would be merely expressing their own opinion, which is by no means superior to any contrary opinion another person or group of persons might have.

2. There would be no objective reason to do good acts, or to avoid bad acts(that is if such things as "good" acts and "bad" acts can exist without God.)

Thus, if I throw God out of the picture, it would make no sense for me to say that I am doing good acts, or that I am a good person, because then I would have become "righteous in my own sight."

Don't make sense. There are general Good and Bad laws governing the universe and it has nothing to do with religion.

for example who will kill someone and say he did a good thing?, or who will help the poor and say he did bad thing?,

You can be Good without being a Christian.

you also need at least 40k.

the referees are just the problem, the difference between the black market and bank rate are not too much, unlike before.

Apina:
Completed by who and who was the contractor? see, don't allow me slap u throw the Fone o, the only work they did there was gravel they poured on shoprite side of the overhead bridge and left it that way, which has been washed off by the rain as u can see., which was when they decided to construct that drain that's redundant close to the fence. I live close to that area, stop saying wat u don't know.

what's uvwie local government chairman doing about this, this place is close to the Secretariat, I just passed there this evening and the road was dam bad, had to pass through nigger cat link road.

macof:
And Ajayi-bembe was saying something last week
Foolish man

saying Lagos is not a Yoruba land is like saying waffi is not an urhobo land.

binis just wanna b relevant.

laudate:
Guy, go back through all my posts, before you jump to conclusions. My question on that thread was to ask if proper processses were followed before the Ijaw people decided to crown a monarch. Secondly, there were court judgements to validate the Bini claim. So what is your point?

You clearly didn't read the post the other day, didn't you see were the State government and the oba were all saying they won't allow ijaw have their own king?.

you talked calmly here, even providing proof, but you couldn't even see reason to support the ijaws that day, my point is that u are been sectional.

For sure I know Edo has no business in Lagos, they just wanna be relevant.

happy Sunday bro

nengibo:
Dats an ***** man for you, double faced like a cassete

lol.. .

Blackfyre:
You dey mind am

we should always support the right thing at all time, that day The edos were laying claim to ijaw land and even expected the ijaws not to have a king.

I said this is wrong and uncalled for, laudate jumped in , started supporting the binis, Now Bini don say Lagos na their land E they talk another thing.

lol.

laudate:
Have you ever seen any Bini man, especially from the royal family, ever laying claim to Lagos? They do not engage in such petty controversies. Only attention seekers from Lagos do that.

And for the record only parts of Lagos island had anything to do with the Bini. Areas like Ikeja, Surulere, Ilupeju, Gbagada, Maryland, Agege, Ipaja, Badagry, Lekki, Ibeju, Epe, Magodo, Ikorodu etc., had absolutely nothing to do with the Bini.

I hail oo.

you were the supporting Edo the other day when they were laying claim to ijaw land, now here u are saying otherwise.

lol.. NA so, .

Amarabae:
Typical black.
Always blaming the white man for his failures.
What stopped Mugabe from developing Zimbabwe,
When the whites were around, the country was the food basket of southern Africa, Mugabe destroyed that legacy.
He should go and go he must.

you they mind am.. always playing the victim card, if you visit most of these pan African group on Fb, day and night the only issue they discuss is how the whites are the cause of our problem.

Roon9:
Hmmmm I serious pity the Aladja people Shar. They have forgotten too soon how the Ijaws nearly wiped out the last tribe that tried this rubbish with them.
The Urhobos are known to be a highly disunited bunch. Nobody would be able to rescue them ni

Nearly wipe you say?, can you please provide any tangible prove to your claim?

comos:
Any fight against the Binis is a fight against the Edo nation (Bini, Ishan, Afemai, uhrobo, Isoko, Kwale, e.t.c )

Lets see if the ijaw can match us

oshare urhobo no send you.. no drag us enter ur wahala biko,

laudate:
Listen, I get where you are coming from. But there is a proper process and procedure for everything. How can a traditional ruler be crowned without the approval of the Chairman of Traditional rulers in the state, and the knowledge of the govt ministry in charge of such chieftaincy and traditional affairs? It means anyone on every street can wake up tomorrow, and crown monarchs for themselves. It will lead to confusion. Such things should pass through the appropriate quarters, and be properly thrashed out.

the issue here is that your kinsmen are denying the fact that ijaw are indigenous to your state, if you read from the comments you will see where some re saying ijaw have no land in bini which is a pure lie.

Yes due process should be followed but edo should not think they own it all, from the reaction of the state government I don't think they are ready to acknowledge the new pere/king.

the ijaws in ondo got their own king
the ijaws in Delta got their own king
while will the ijaws in edo be under the oba ?
How does that sound?

father01:
bros yes this is not 1703 and i trust Edo to give you fire for fire. Hope you know there is no creek in Benin.

make una no try una self.

am not ijaw, am urhobo, but I know some ijaws who are from Edo, and Its not fair to lord over them, I don't support injustice, and what is currently happening in Edo is oppression.

if the ijaws should attack, believe me u can't stand the heat.. live and let's live biko.

I still suggest they curve the ijaw and Itsekiri towns in edo back to Delta, una own too much.