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ezeagu:
There's no statistics or even a simple news article to back the claims, and the analogy does not even make sense as millions of Igbo people are not waiting to go to South Western Nigeria.

O ma se o.

Do you need statistics or a news article to back this claim up? At least be honest with yourself for once in your life

Then again, you are the one who seems to believe the cocaine networks to the US are also Igbo-controlled. Or that Igbos are exporting manufactured goods to other African countries  

Yes, in a country where electricity is moribund, and where China can produce anything you can make at FAR lower prices, millions of Africans are lining up to buy goods from Igboland. Goods that even my dad's illiterate Akwa Ibom employee derides as "Aba-made"  

God bless your amusing little hearts.

Beaf:
Stop straining to distance yourself from your origins, you're overtasking your cassava addled mind. Lets not forget that it evolved for the specific tasks of goat catching and running through the bush at high speed.

LWKMD

You grew up in a country where cassava is produced in large amounts, I grew up in a country where it is not even feasible for cassava to grow. . . and probably illegal to import it in its raw form. Yet I am the one who is "cassava addled."

Aggressive stupidity; that is the only way to characterize you. I'm glad that God made you the way you are though; you've provided me with hours of entertainment  

ezeagu:
You use at least one Igbo imported thing, even the cocaine you sniff, who do you think brought it here. Ohhh.

Funny, but wrong  Igbo drug mules go to Europe. Here in the US, the cocaine networks are controlled by Hispanics.

Because you do the same like comparing Lagos to the United States.

Do you not know what an analogy is

The whole point made is that the region that sees the most immigration in Nigeria is the SW. The one that sees the most out-migration is the SE. If you all had gotten that to start with, nobody would have had to use more complicated analogies to convey the very simple point.

Beaf:
If there was 3billion in your state, goats would have eaten it; its that primitive.
Hmm! It was counterfeit claims to Lagos first, now its North America! LOL!
How can anyone be so ashamed of their origin? Wetin pesin no go hear? I blame cassava!

1) Ultimately, it would be more nourishing for the goats to eat the $3 billion+ than a goat in human form in your boy Ibori to eat the money and carry it to Dubai. At least the fertilizer produced from the cash would help agriculture 
2) Do you not understand the concept of a person growing up a place (or heck, continent) other than their self-identified state of origin?
3) You do realize that cassava doesn't grow in North America, right?

bashr4:
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really? everything you use in southwest from slippers ,shoes, sandals, belt, books, hankie, bedsheet,boxers,suits, deodorants , motorcycles, automobile spare parts,building materials i can go on and on are produced in the south east and even their foreign substitues are imported by south easterners. now half of the manufacturing comapnies in lagos and ogun are owned by igbo . take the south west away , the igbo manufactured products are sold across the remaining parts of nigeria and west africa.

really sucks to be igbo.

I sure as hell don't buy anything igbo-made when I'm in naija. I either buy locally or import. Dunno about the rest of ya'll.

Document half of the manufacturing in Lagos and Ogun being owned by Igbos. . . ya'll are good at making up stories, but the facts never match up.

Who on earth buys Igbo manufactured goods outside of Nigeria? So now you are exporting your fake, low-quality products?  

Na lie

Beaf:
The Worlds worst dunce would regret almost everything you've said on this thread. It just shows where your cassava munching morals are.
Perhaps, you have received some degree of warning of what your mindless ethnic bigotry can bring. A lot of blood has been spilt in Warri, but for you its like discussing bags of garri.

Dude, you are damn primitive and posessed of a callous mind. Are you posting from jail by any chance?

1) You are not one to lecture anyone on morals. Your beloved Ibori stole 3 billion+ from your state. . . you made it out to be nothing.
2) Beaf, again, were you dropped on your head as a child? Cassava isn't widely grown in North America, the continent I grew up on. Do you also ridicule people who grew up in Russia or Norway with cassava jokes   It only makes you look like a m0ron. If stereotypes-from-the-wrong-continent-and-country are in vogue, maybe I should ridicule you for spending too much time buying liquor from the Korean corner store in your neighborhood. Or for being a member of a Latino street gang?  
3) High speed internet access in jail? Also, since when did disliking and ridiculing an slowpoke like yourself become punishable by a jail term?

ezeagu:
Must really suck to have nothing at all.

Isn't it better to have an asset worth 0 than one that will go bankrupt unless electricity arrives?

Anyway, some enormous amount of Nigeria's manufacturing industry is based in the Lagos-Ogun axis. So not quite nothing.

Kilode, I await your response. . .

aribisala0:
igweeeeeeeeeeeee!

we believe you r great.d issue really is do you?

God bless 'em. Very funny folk.

mbatuku1:
I Never implied that. I was just having fun thinking of Asiwaju's Company was doing in the SW.

The man must be floating in the air right now. At least, until the court cases begin. Lol

I heard Asiwaju and Company opened up a new branch office in Anambra. Is this true? Their rival company, Agulu Progressive Grand Assembly went bankrupt and had to sell off their business at firesale prices. Asiwaju and Co really got the assets at a great price

^-- You are welcome to the last word. Going to take all of my will-power, but I'll try my best to simply ignore you lest I say something else I'll regret.

The Taiwan of Africa, yes?

Minus the cheap electricity, I guess

Must really suck to invest heavily in a business that isn't economically competitive

mbatuku1:
Up Asiwaju Company of Nigeria

Well, so we are in agreement that your logic was terrible. Good.

Eko Ile:
Are you talking about skilled or unskilled labor? Anybody fit sell spare parts, sell puff puff and gala and drain your resources by not even paying taxes because these are informal sectors of the economy,

If they aren't taxed, then very bad. They have to be taxed heavily.

ola olabiy:
This is so unlike Ekiti bear. Beaf, you've annoyed him.

A well-mannered guy.

Bleh. Another saying I should have remembered, "I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."

Enough, I am hopefully done here. I don't want to be viewed on the same level as this guy

Eko Ile:
The fact that millions of Nigerians are lining up to go to America doesn't mean Nigeria is going to be empty,

You and your crazy logic sha,

Heh.

it is comical to me that a person who cannot reason and use basic logic will then claim some sort of superiority. Smh

Beaf:
Exactly! But travelling through your place, all one see's are rocks, cassava farms and brave goats that sleep in the middle of the road in the afternoon. It looks like a zoo.

Keep making claims, bro. Its the way of the confidence and morality impoverished; first you were a counterfeit Lagosian, but now that your arse has been broken, you're beginning to claim you aren't even Nigerian.

Dude, is all this due to an inferior complex?
Nothing you do or say can change where you are from, or the sad part raw cassava has played in your life.

1) Are all Nigerians in Nigeria?
2) Did all Nigerians grow up in Nigeria?
3) Are all Nigerians as feckless and simpleminded as your parents that they'd continue to feed their children food not fit for animals, have their infants drink oil-polluted water,  making them weak, sickly and stunted?

Eko Ile:
Keep working hard and keep paying dem taxes, we got many roads, schools and bridges to build with your money.


Y'all are like immigrant laborers,

People don't get it. Immigration is part of what made America so great. They've poached the best talent from across the world, draining it away from elsewhere. A lot of the guys I work with, some of the brightest people from their own country plan on settling here permanently and adding their talents to the US rather than China/Korea/etc.

It is a huge win for us, in my opinion.

mbatuku1:
Yet, there are still more people living in the SE than Lagos. You are contradicting yourself.

Err, lol. Norway is less populated than Ghana. Does that suggest that the latter is more desirable to live in than the former? 

My brother-in-law, your logic needs to be sharper than that

@Kilode?!: What steps concretely? Is a simple change of the revenue formula enough? Or are deeper constitutional changes needed?

Beaf:
First you lie that you're from Lagos, now you are suddenly ashamed to be Nigerian?

Damn! Na wa for pretentious types with smelly arses!

We all know where you are from, and it looks like a godforsaken zoo in Nigeria's backyard; a place where cassava is a luxury. LOL!

Beaf, there is nothing "Nigerian" about feeding kids cassava. It is a sign of deep poverty. It is quite unfortunate that this is all your family could afford to feed you. I was fortunate enough to grow up in a place where even the poorest of children get better food than that. I would suggest that you try to find more nourishing food for your own children, lest they end up as brain-damaged and sickly as you.

^-- No, let him explain himself.

I think in his mind, he imagines that (like him) I grew up in an impoverished village somewhere. Parents struggling to makes ends meet, for example. But because his impoverished village was in Delta, he thinks he ate better than I did as a kid.

Problem is, the place where I grew up in wasn't even in naija. . .

mbatuku1:
Quit shifting the goal posts. The argument was that if Lagos was a slum, then the SE will be a more bigger slum.

We weren't talking of their economic importance. Maybe I need to quote you.

Kindly quote me, show me where I called the SE a slum. Point is simple. . . slum or not, Lagos appears to be a far more desirable place to live than the SE. At least if immigration is any indication. . .

Beaf, dude. . . we don't have cassava in the country I grew up in. Like, at least make up a story about me living in the projects and living on food stamps or something. . . it would be equally incorrect, but at least a better stereotype of where I grew up.

mbatuku1:
My wife is Yoruba. Jason, I have no choice. Just defensive mode.

I dont meet not-so-smart ones like here on NL.

That to me is impressive, lol. Third generation Lagosian, wife is Yoruba, your kids probably with at least one Yoruba name, probably have lived most of your life in Lagos. For all I know, your wife is my cousin. Yet we appear to be on opposite teams.

Heh, kind of weird  

ezeagu:
How many Igbo people are there in Lagos? 5 million? The Federal government counted 25 million people in the 5 Igbo states, and even then they gave Aba a population of 500,000 which is rubbish so there's even more, so where does the notion of people not enjoying the south east come from? Slum? If south eastern Nigeria is a slum, the rest of Nigeria is for rubbish.

My point is simple. Let's say we ranked each state by raw #s of people immigrating per year. Lagos, Rivers, Delta, Abuja will all be highly positive. SE zone would be negative.

I'm not calling the SE a slum. My point is, Lagos cannot be that bad if it attracts so many people. Nobody moves from the frying pan into the fire 

Even if they leave their village to move to a slum in Lagos. . . well, doesn't that suggest that even the slum offers them a better life than their village and state?

[quote author=Kilode?! link=topic=367789.msg8129391#msg8129391 date=1302823422]Why can't we have 250 Admin counties based on our languages, cultural affinity and shared history? what is the difference between 250 and 774+ or even 1000 or 10,000. Why stop at 36 or 774?[/quote]Honestly, if LGs were not the weakest level of government, then I think a lot of problems would be solved. People wouldn't give a damn about which state they are in if LGs were not so impotent.

As you sort of imply, "true" federalism would center around LGs rather than even states.

Would anyone care about having say an Anioma state if most of the power in Delta State resided in the LGs, rather than the state? Probably not. Power isn't decentralized enough in this country.

^--- Certainly some very good points you make.

mbatuku1:
Two things are at stake here. Lagos might be a commercial nerve, and still be a slum. While the SE may not be a commercial nerve and not a slum.

The last time I checked the meaning of 'slum', the words 'overcrowded' and 'dirty' was part of it.

The SE is not overcrowded. So it can not be a slum.

I'm not calling the SE a slum. Furthest east I've been in PH; never been to Imo and the rest.

My point is. . . slum or no, people from all over Nigeria, heck, West Africa seem to be voting with their feet and moving to Lagos. And they've been doing this for 80+ years now. So it cannot be that bad a city (at least compared to the alternatives), slum or no. Otherwise, presumably people would move out elsewhere. 1 million+ population growth per year should tell you it is quite superior to the alternatives.

recoome:
@alh uche: if the north were involved, i would not care becos the north must be kicked out but this is a case of ijebu invasion!

You have more in common with the ijebu man than others, do you not? I don't see what the big deal is. Seems a bit shortsighted to throw away natural allies so quickly.

Alj Uche:
dapo stop it

he is not intelligent at all but the more you post with him the more you put urself in his class

Truth. You are correct on both points. I definitely want to avoid the latter.

@Beaf: You are welcome to have the last word. I don't want to derail this thread any further; I shall return to discussing Warri.

^-- Is this what you told the other little kids in your village school when they were beating the sh1t out of you? "I'm too civilized to fight"?

Your mother must have been really proud, knowing she raised an effeminate, preening sissy of a child.

Regarding "Partially-evolved". . . heh, it always used to crack me up when you had that AfroScienceCommunity signature. No wonder education in naija is bad, with half-educated pseudo-scientists and crackpots claiming to be authorities.

Oh well, I'm sure your folks did they best they could with the resources available to them. Not their fault they had a mentally deficient son. You can lead a (moronic) horse to water, but you cannot make it drink. . .

lol @ someone not knowing that (some) Ijebu are native lagosians