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PoliticsRe: Tiv/fulani Clash Claims 17 In Benue by ekubear1: 9:14pm On Feb 11, 2011
sbeezy8:
Meanwhile, normalcy has returned to the area but due to the damaged cassava, yam, vegetable, melon, garden eggs farms, prices of food stuffs have risen in the area as the indigenes and tenants are predominantly farmers. Also speaking, a community leader in the area Hon Chinedu Akowuba urged Imo government to find a lasting solution to the perpetually recurring problems created by the Fulani herdsmen lamenting that his people over the years have suffered terribly and have always recorded painful losses.
He regretted that most women of the area who were violated by  the cattle rearers in the past died due to one disease or the other, adding that his people are not afraid of the vandals but for the respect for the law.
angry angry angry

WTF type bullsh1t is that?

"most women of the area who were violated. . . died"?  undecided

And they'll sit there and take it sitting down?

I wonder sometimes if Nigerians are human beings or docile lambs.

That someone can go to your home, steal your crops, rape your women to death and you'll sit there and take it boggles my mind.

I don't get it.
PoliticsRe: Fashola Challenges Fg To Public Debate Ahead Of April Polls by ekubear1: 6:53pm On Feb 11, 2011
Fashola would slaughter GEJ in a debate.

He is performing with limited funds. Who else in Nigeria can say the same? His state is at 80%+ IGR. Who else has achieved even half of this?

He is easily the most popular politician in Nigeria, period.
PoliticsNigeria Berths Largest Vessel Ever by ekubear1(op): 5:07pm On Feb 11, 2011
As the new management of Nigerian Ports Authority (NPA) celebrates the success of seaports concessioning, a 232 meters large vessel with a draught of 11 meters and laden with 1400 containers Tuesday sailed into the Lagos port.

It is the first time in the history of Nigerian ports that a vessel of such draught is sailing into the country without first discharging some of its cargoes in other West African countries to reduce draught, or better still transfer the cargoes into smaller vessels which can navigate safely in the Nigeria channels without running aground.

Daily Champion notes that the vessel, a Merchant Container Vessel (MV) Izimir, a Maersk Line vessel came straight from Asia to Nigeria without stopping over any where. 80 percent if its cargoes, while the remaining 20 percent is meant for other West and Central African countries.

Reacting to the development, visibly elated image maker of Nigerian Ports Authority, a general manager in the organization, Chief Michael Ajayi said "the successful berthing of this vessel in our port is a loud statement to the global shipping community that we have achieved the necessary draught to berth large vessels and there will be no need to first take such vessels to other countries to reduce draught before coming to Nigeria." He also said that the coming of the vessel into the Nigerian ports shows that the wreck removal programme of the NPA is on course and is yielding result.

He disclosed that the organization has already achieved 11.5 meters draught, saying NPA would soon achieve 12 meters draught for channels, "and the programme of dredging and wreck removal will remain a continuous process because this new NPA with a brand new management team under the leadership of Engr. Omar Sulieman is determined to transform Nigeria to be the center of shipping (hub port) in the West and Central Africa," he said. He disclosed that another large of 250 meters length may be berthing at the Lagos port sometime in April.

Ajayi further said as the coming of the vessel marked the beginning of the transformation of Nigerian ports to a hub port, it also marked the beginning of a new dawn for Nigerian shippers, as the multiplier effect of the coming of the large vessels directly to Nigeria without first stopping anywhere, would result in reduction of the cost of shipping a container to Nigeria. He explained that as Nigeria achieves the appropriate draught for larger vessels and makes its waters safe for navigation, demand will be made for the removal of the surcharges on Nigerian bound cargoes. "For every stop before vessels final destination is an added cost to the shipper, when we have achieved a hub port we will ask that such charges to be removed," he stated.

http://allafrica.com/stories/printable/201102110831.html
PoliticsRe: Fashola The Rascal Hands Over Four Major Projects. (pics) by ekubear1: 4:40pm On Feb 11, 2011
Fashola for president, 2015?
PoliticsRe: Bayelsa Tops Nigeria’s Unemployment Chart by ekubear1: 4:22pm On Feb 11, 2011
Kobojunkie:
Bayelsa State received $47.1m ---  2 - 3 million population
Lagos state received $15m -- population suggested to be at ~17 million (2010)

Ok . . . maybe not exactly 10 times but per capita, it sure seems that way.
Kobo, it is more like 18 times per capita, if we use 3 million. $15.70 for Bayelsa per person, 88 cents for Lagos.

Employment figures as of March 2009:
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http://www.nigerianstat.gov.ng/ext/latest_release/LabourForcestat.pdf

38%+ of Bayelsans unemployed, compared to the national average of 19.7%.

Wow.
PoliticsRe: Bayelsa Tops Nigeria’s Unemployment Chart by ekubear1: 4:04pm On Feb 11, 2011
^-- So Bayelsa receives more derivation money than even Rivers?

$15 million for Lagos, 47.1 for Bayelsa?

Bayelsa with a tiny population of 2 or 3 million, yet nothing to show for it?

Is it me, or should all of Bayelsa's past governors be investigated by the EFCC?

Where did all the money go to?

How can you earn more money than Rivers, yet be even less developed than Ekiti?

Na wa o!
PoliticsRe: Lagos State Is The Most Indebted State In Nigeria by ekubear1: 3:35pm On Feb 11, 2011
alj harem:
good one smiley

you are one smart man but a tribalistic one as well just like awolowo tongue wink
I'm not a tribalist, just interested in spending my energy fixing the SW.
PoliticsRe: What Wher The Hausa's Doing When The Igbo,s & Yoruba's Wher Developing? by ekubear1: 3:14pm On Feb 11, 2011
As poorly run and corrupt as the southern states in Nigeria are, I guess the northern states are even more so.

I don't know what the deal is with their leadership.
PoliticsRe: Nigerian States Financial/economic Ranking: Lagos No.1 $33 Billion Dollars! by ekubear1: 3:12pm On Feb 11, 2011
What the hell does that have to do with anything?

One can certainly argue that Bayelsa should be receiving far more money that it should, that the rest of Nigeria sponges off of it.

But this is an entirely separate issue from the state frittering away the still considerable amounts of money it does get.

Again, two separate and distinct issues.

I hope at your real job, you don't use the excuse that you are underpaid to piss away all your money on gambling. . .

"I wouldn't be so frivolous with my money if they paid me more!"
PoliticsRe: Lagos State Is The Most Indebted State In Nigeria by ekubear1: 3:09pm On Feb 11, 2011
$369 million debt?

When the annual budget of the state is $2 billion+?

If the debt were $10 billion, then yes, I'd say there is a problem. But given that the GDP of the state is $30 billion+, 369 mil is a drop in the ocean.

States like Dubai and Italy iirc have debt to GDP ratios well north of 80%+.

1% will not kill Lagos. . . if anything, Lagos should borrow more to accelerate development.
PoliticsRe: I’m Proud To Be A Rascal, Ribadu Tells Jonathan by ekubear1: 3:02pm On Feb 11, 2011
PoliticsRe: Nigerian States Financial/economic Ranking: Lagos No.1 $33 Billion Dollars! by ekubear1: 2:58pm On Feb 11, 2011
Per capita rankings are more useful for the sake of comparison.

Lagos will always be #1 if you look at raw GDP, simply because it is far more populated than the other states, while having a very solid economic base (essentially, a plurality of the finance, manufacturing, shipping etc in Nigeria is in or around Lagos.)

A bit sad how low Bayelsa is ranked, despite all the oil wealth at its disposal.
PoliticsRe: Bayelsa Tops Nigeria’s Unemployment Chart by ekubear1: 2:54pm On Feb 11, 2011
So unfortunate that the Bayelsa governors are more keen on stealing from their people rather than using the enormous amount of resources available to them to uplift their people from poverty.

A tragedy.
PoliticsRe: Gov. Fashola Finances treatment of Ailing Nollywood Actor, Ifeanyi Dike by ekubear1: 2:50pm On Feb 11, 2011
lol, alj harem I didn't know you read naija gossip blogs
PoliticsRe: Tiv/fulani Clash Claims 17 In Benue by ekubear1: 2:31pm On Feb 11, 2011
Arosa:
This is the problem with Africa we do not know how to change our old ways. nomadic activities are now outdated, it should be banned and an alternative method introduced. The Fulani herds men most learn from the west how to farm cattle's in modern way. "contemporaries Guys"  SAD.
You guys keep missing the point.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with nomadic herding.

But you cannot herd on SOMEONE ELSES property! Doing so is trespassing. And if you eat the crops on someone else's land, then you are stealing.

If you want to herd on your own 1000 hectare estate somewhere, that is your right. But on land owned by somebody else? You cannot.
PoliticsRe: Tiv/fulani Clash Claims 17 In Benue by ekubear1: 2:26pm On Feb 11, 2011
Mai Suya:
I have to wonder though, were the herdsman aware that they were in a farmland? I assume they've been grazing their cattle in that area for quite sometime and have been living peacefully with their hosts. When indeed the owners of the land discovered the damage done, why didn't they seek to engage the herdsmen rather resort to killing their cattle? could this whole episode not have been avoided?
huh huh huh

If you see a big patch of corn, rice, cassava, yam, potatoes, etc, you won't realize it is someone's farmland  huh

Are these herders morons?

Unless they are absolute morons, then they purposefully knew they were stealing.

The farmers should beg and plead with someone not to steal from them, violate the integrity of their own land?

Hell no! If someone doesn't understand property rights, the best way to teach him is to destroy whatever he owns that has violated your land.
PoliticsRe: Video Footage Of Aguiyi-ironsi, Nzeogwu, Sardauna’s House, Katsina…. by ekubear1: 3:06am On Feb 11, 2011
fstranger you crack me up bro
PoliticsRe: Tiv/fulani Clash Claims 17 In Benue by ekubear1: 2:54am On Feb 11, 2011
ShangoThor:
Seriously, this has been going on for a long time now, and just killing trespassers on their land is not a long term solution.
It's actually a great longterm solution. If you were a cattle herder and you know that if you enter state X, there is a 60% chance you won't leave with your life, would you enter that territory?

The mistake the Tiv made was not immediately killing the trespassers too. Killing the cattle is not enough.

Furthermore, farmers are not mercenaries or warriors.
If you want to farm in Nigeria, then you'd better learn how to handle a gun. Farmers here in the US at least historically knew how to handle guns because they had to deal with marauding Native Americans. Nigerian farmers had better learn to do the same.

Hire a retired military man to teach your villagers how to shoot, buy weapons and practice.

My grandpa had a hunting rifle (for bush meat) and knew how to use it. . . and this was a man whose prime was in the 60, 70s.
PoliticsRe: Tiv/fulani Clash Claims 17 In Benue by ekubear1: 2:39am On Feb 11, 2011
May they continue to kill Fulani, so long as Fulani do not respect property rights. Drive them out of Nigeria to wherever they originate from, if necessary.

If you respect your neighbor's land, then there will be peace. If not then there will be violence.
PoliticsRe: Tiv/fulani Clash Claims 17 In Benue by ekubear1: 2:26am On Feb 11, 2011
ShangoThor:
And who is going to stop them? Which political actor would have the balls to pass into law, legislation that restricts the scope
of their cattle grazing rights? Some Nigerians are dreamers. The bottom line is the Fulani herdsmen can do whatever they want,
whenever they want. Damnnn, let's keep this real. I mean this has been a problem source that was identified a long time ago.

The only real solution would be to separate and get the Israelis in to help us build a long wall, this will stop the cattle
grazers destroying farms and prevent "babies from being butchered".

Eh, first of all stop your b1tchass red font.

Second, most of these Fulani are punks anyway. . . they can only pick on unarmed villagers. I assure you, if I ever enter that business, I will be armed to the teeth.

Whoever wants to attack me on my property, be my guest. Either you or I will die that night. . . and given how heavily armed I and my kin/employees will be, the odds won't be in your favor.
PoliticsRe: Tiv/fulani Clash Claims 17 In Benue by ekubear1: 1:16am On Feb 11, 2011
Beaf:
What sort of joke is this? Its strange the way you think the same govt that siezes land and waterways in the ND to finance the country should turn around and hand land to Fulani herdsmen. You got jokes dude!

I say, ban the fvkers from their stone age nomadic lifestyles, give them id cards, restrict them to their states and let their state govs give the wretches land to graze. They can't keep wandering across Nigeria and killing people (even babies) like they barbaric hoards without the slightest inkling of morality and civilisation.

If any Fulani herdsman is found with cows outside his state, he should be shot like an armed robber.
If he is found with cows even in his state, he should be shot. Or there are no farmers in Sokoto? This has nothing to do with states. This is purely property rights.

If a Fulani man wants to buy a 1000 hectare estate to wander his cattle on and graze, fine by me. At that point, it is his property, he can do whatever the fck he wants.

But even in Sokoto, you should not violate property rights.
PoliticsRe: Tiv/fulani Clash Claims 17 In Benue by ekubear1: 1:00am On Feb 11, 2011
Obiagu1:
There are reserved grasslands for grazing so don't say government created any problem.
If they've overused them, then they should equally think of alternatives; keeping their cattle in farms as we have in Britain, etc, and feeding them with feed like poultry and pig farmers do.

They problem is they want to raise cows without spending a dime, sell it and pocket the whole money. They should invest in their buisness.
In that case, they shouldn't be angry if someone slaughters their cattle. You are feeding your cattle on someone else's money; why shouldn't someone eat your cattle for free, then?

Fair is fair, is it not?
PoliticsRe: Tiv/fulani Clash Claims 17 In Benue by ekubear1: 12:53am On Feb 11, 2011
Anyway, hopefully the Tiv have learned their lesson.

Slaughter the cattle, then find the Fulani and slaughter them too.
PoliticsRe: Tiv/fulani Clash Claims 17 In Benue by ekubear1: 12:48am On Feb 11, 2011
"Inept gov't"?

WTF does inept gov't have to do with anything?

Inept gov't should be the one buying them land, when other ordinary humans pay cash for land?

Why is the answer always "government should", rather than man should?

There is plenty of land in the Chad Republic, Sahara desert, or wherever the hell they are from. Let them go graze their cattle in the desert.

Or pony up some money and buy land to graze.
PoliticsRe: Tiv/fulani Clash Claims 17 In Benue by ekubear1: 12:42am On Feb 11, 2011
What the hell else is there to it?

I grow food, and you eat it?

Monkey dey work, baboon dey chop?

GTFO out of there with that sh1t. If I become a farmer one day in the future and you graze your animals on my land, your animals are dead.

If you bring your Fulani boys around my property too and trespass, they will be dead too.

Simple as that.

These Tiv need to arm themselves and be ready to do battle. Trespass on property = shoot on sight.
PoliticsRe: Tiv/fulani Clash Claims 17 In Benue by ekubear1: 12:38am On Feb 11, 2011
Why should the gov't provide anything for lazy scoundrels and marauders who steal from others?

The only thing the gov't should provide for them is a jail cell.

Grazing your cattle on another man's crops is STEALING.
PoliticsRe: Tiv/fulani Clash Claims 17 In Benue by ekubear1: 12:30am On Feb 11, 2011
afam4eva:
TIVs killed Cows

Fulanis killed Humans.
They need to start killing Fulani outright. Solve the problem directly. An eye for an eye.
PoliticsRe: Fashola Rips Goodluck To Shreds! by ekubear1: 12:24am On Feb 11, 2011
mekaboy:


IF A WHOLE PRESIDENT SAID THIS, THEN ITS CLEAR THAT , THE PRESIDENT ON FACE-BOOK IS DIFFERENT FROM THE PRESIDENT IN NIGERIA.

grin grin grin
PoliticsRe: Dangote Should Run For Lagos State Governor In 2015 by ekubear1: 11:29pm On Feb 10, 2011
afam4eva:
I was actually surprised when you said you were from Ekity cos i know people from the Ekiti and Ondo axis to be less tribalistic or passive as you put it when compared to people from Ogun and Oyo. Especially the yoruba muslims.
I don't really view myself as a hardcore tribalist, man  undecided I just want my people to progress and achieve their potential.

I apologize if it comes across as bigotry.

It is sort of weird though, my dad is one of those one-Nigeria types. A hardcore patriot. Doesn't discriminate in any way; his employees are from all over Nigeria.

Dunno how I ended up so different from him.
PoliticsRe: Dangote Should Run For Lagos State Governor In 2015 by ekubear1: 11:21pm On Feb 10, 2011
Awo was a very fair man. He made everyone feel as if they belong. No fear or favor on his part. No discrimination against small groups like the Ekiti say in favor of more numerous, powerful, or influential groups. When you have a leader like that, it brings people together.

He didn't d1ck us around in any way. All of those "firsts" in Yorubaland, everyone benefited from.
PoliticsRe: Dangote Should Run For Lagos State Governor In 2015 by ekubear1: 11:17pm On Feb 10, 2011
alj harem:
dapo, ekiti is the least closest to the mainstream yoruba and yet they are the most pro-yoruba i have seen on nairaland and nigeria as a whole

i mean even itsekiri is far from yoruba

can you explain this please smiley
Hrm, I don't know. You'd imagine that hinterland Yoruba (like Ekiti) might be a bit more passive. But for some reason we aren't.

The influence of Awolowo? The Western region was really a wonderful thing and I think helped bind us together. Awo brought a lot of people out of poverty.

I cannot speak for other Ekiti, but me I'm a strong Yorubaist (not sure if this is a word. . ) because of Awo.
PoliticsRe: Dangote Should Run For Lagos State Governor In 2015 by ekubear1: 11:02pm On Feb 10, 2011
jason123:
Exactly!!! That why I was wondering what he meant by acceptance?
Btw, it's closer to the ijebu yoruba.
Ijebu (and I guess by extension Itsekiri) is closer to central Yoruba than Ekiti is.

So I don't get what the beef is.

Who are most of these dudes to be telling you what you are and are not, anyways?

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