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A few questions, for someone who isn't that familiar with education in Nigeria:

1) For those who have some experience with WAEC and western education, ow hard is the WAEC exam, say compared to the some of the US High School exit exams or the SAT?
2) What were the pass rates and # of students taking the exam over the past 10-20 years?
3) How are other WAEC countries (I guess Ghana, etc) doing?
4) What is the penalty for failing WAEC? Do you not get your HS diploma?

@Dede: Nah, you have to respect old agreements. Even Nigeria's debt would have to be split up among the new states.

Regarding oil, since most of the oil belongs to the SS, I as a SW guy cannot decide to give their oil away for them. And the oil that is in the SW (or offshore the SW), I have zero interest in ceding that to someone else.

To be honest, I don't care if he is innocent or not. After all, we are not pretending that pursuit of justice 5,7 or 10 years later is what the PDP is truly seeking by arresting him, are we?

The reality is that Tinubu and his party stand a strong chance of kicking PDP @ss in a few months. So is the PDP seeking justice by using federal instruments to arrest him, or their own survival?

Since it is the latter, I cannot support their action at this point in time, guilty or not. They should have done whatever they needed to do 2 years ago. And if they win the election, are free to go after him then (or whichever government is in power.) But at this point in time, if the FG goes after Tinubu, they can frankly go fvck themselves.

[quote="sledjama"]I think Timi Alaibe did it to draw attention to himself.
anyone who wanted him dead would have gone after his life instead of taking a much bigger risk of bombing his home.

he should be watched closely.[/quote]Lol @ you trying to blame the victim!

Disgusting.

crusufixo:
Well, it mit just be true, after all most corpers arrange with their zonal inspectors and (or) their local government inspectors to take their allowances and then they dissapear after the orientation camp, only to reappear on passing out parade to collect their discharge certificate.During that period of their disappearance,they enguage in other activities like for instance, masters programme of most commonly, work fulltime( not as corpers). So this mit just be the case with this iwu lady.

Interesting. That option doesn't sound too bad. You lose at most a month out of your working year. I wouldn't mind giving Nigeria a month of unpaid/underpaid labor, but a year is too much.

@fstranger: Thank whoever forced you, then

Moving up from an okada driver to medical doctor is quite a step up, in terms of career paths 

There is no justification whatsoever for suggesting that an illiterate should be banned from voting. Being able to read and write English is nice, but certainly shouldn't be a prerequisite for participation in democracy. Voting rights should only be taken away for serious crimes.

It is like they are purposefully trying to destroy their own party.

Blunder after blunder. . .

@Kobojunkie: Just to show you my estimate for generating power through gasoline wasn't too far off:

The poorest Nigerians pay more than N80 per kWh, burning candles, kerosene and firewood while the majority of Nigerians pay N50 to N70 on self-generation and manufacturers pay between N45 and N60 per kWh on diesel or LPFO generation, using larger generators,” the statement stated.

http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=35014:electricity-tariff-will-fall-by-65-per-cent-in-april-&catid=31:business&Itemid=562

Looks like actually I was a bit optimistic, but in the right ballpark.

jason123:
Although, there is wisdom in neutrality. I do not know why yorubas are always playing the neutral party even if they are being killed

Who knows, maybe the current course of action is optimal. Like I said, I don't have enough info to know. But it is quite possible that throwing in behind one group or another will lead to a better outcome.

Yeah, I'm sure of that. When outnumbered/outgunned, you've got to find some allies. Not sure this neutrality approach the Yoruba community there is going to be effective. . .

Ola edo:
As long as you are with the christian group, in a church, or in an area split between muslim and christian then you are a target.

Hrm, I see.

Sounds like a pretty crappy situation. . . quite difficult to avoid getting caught in the middle.

Hrm, if the Hausa there will treat Igbo no differently than Berom, perhaps they should align with the Berom to drive the Hausa out. Though I don't know enough about the situation on the ground to say what the best course of action for them is.

wow.

What I never understand about this is how 3rd parties get caught up. If Hausa and Berom are beefing, then why are Igbos and other southern groups getting killed too?

^-- e no be by force, man.

Na wa o

I guess it is more reassuring to believe that your mighty and noble cause was "betrayed", rather than simply led by incompetents

During one of those meetings where terms of settlement were being negotiated, Mr. Gowon, who was representing Pfizer which earns over $18 billion annually in profit, worked hard to secure a paltry settlement. He is quoted as telling negotiators that the worth of the life of a child born and bred in Kano cannot be compared to that of a child born and bred in the United States. This was apparently in response to entreaties that Pfizer should pay the same rate of compensation it would pay had the trial taken place in the United States.

This comment, NEXT gathered, generated deep anger and criticism among those at the meeting and the former head of state, sensing he had overstepped the mark, quickly apologised and begged that the comment not be repeated outside the meeting room. A source present at the meeting, who wants to remain anonymous, confirmed that Mr. Gowon actually made these comments attributed to him.

Wow.

Lukman Ishola, counsel to the victims of the Trovan trial, described the role of the Emir of Kano and Mr. Gowon as shameful.

“What Gowon did was like asking Bill Clinton to negotiate on behalf of Al-Qaeda. What Pfizer did in Kano is not short of terrorism, because they had a prior knowledge of the harm the drug is capable of causing, yet they deliberately administered the drug to sick infants,” Mr. Ishola said.

Just in case ya'll don't know, @fstranger has a heart of gold. So don't get offended by what he says

Lol

That is some serious bidness. I'd be embarrassed to hype myself up that much

fstranger1:
Everything is not about economics! Where do you think the people in Lagos come from? If at all, the language is going to eveolve into one language, the Oyo version aka the one spoken by the ara okes, would eventually be the dominant one.

Economics is most of it though, I think. And the fact that many of those in Lagos are not indigenes makes it even more likely that they'll adopt Lagos Yoruba, imo.

jason123:
I read that book. Its quite good

I sorta want to Wikify it (copyright has expired, I believe.) I showed it to the Kabiyesi of our town. He has a copy himself too.

It would be pretty useful if all of it were online in a nice, accessible format for anyone to read. . .

@Katsumoto: Reverend Johnson had some theory about how the Yoruba are some descendants of Gnostic Christians. Do you remember reading about this? It sounded pretty fake/suspect to me. Just wondering what you thought of it.

Aigbofa:
Adopt a single dialect? There's no reason for that. Things will gradually change and evolve in a way no one can predict. I suspect though, more and more people will speak the bastardized Lagos version.

Yep. Lagos version has numerical and economic might to support it.

@Katsumoto: Interesting.

[quote author=aloy/emeka link=topic=582273.msg7496708#msg7496708 date=1294603283]Don't mind him. Igbos own 70% of the properties in Abuja according to El Rufai and not 70% of the population. Many half illiterates in NL.[/quote]Err, is this true? Or are they all absentee landlords? 70% of the properties, yet well under 20% of the pop? Not saying it is impossible, but just seems weird.

@kalokalo: Interesting. I think this is true of many other groups, though. I doubt Yoruba in Lagos will easily understand whatever dialect of Yoruba is spoken in some village in Kogi State.

Man, Yoruba people need to be more active on Wikipedia   This Ijebu origin story for example should be on there. . .

naijababe:
Ask any Ijebu person you know, they do not trace their origin to Oduduwa but rather the Jebusites of the Bible. I know it sounds odd, but it was my husband that told me first before I heard from the Awujale of Ijebu-Ode himself. I r'ber that when I asked him how this was possible, he asked which of the Okanbi sons settled in Ijebu?

I'm just repeating what I heard from them o  

Jebusites?

Hrm, so did they believe this even before interacting with Europeans? If they believed it beforehand, then maybe there is something too it. But otherwise. . .

Yep, the dialects are dying out. Imo they are too unwieldy anyway  My own village's dialect is different from that of the next town in Ekiti, etc, etc. I don't mind if my own kids learn the dialect, but as for me I'm content with just Yoruba.

We sorta have bigger fish to fry in this day and age than worrying about dialects.

naijababe:
The Ijebus though domiciled in the SW do not consider themselves to be Yorubas, they trace their lineage to some place in the Middle East .

Really? What do you mean by this? It is only recently that this concept of "Yoruba" came about. But long before then was an acknowledgement of Ile Ife/Oduduwa as a common origin.

So do you mean they don't think they are from Ife originally?

Dede1:
You are very right. Nigeria would have capitulated within the estimated period.

If you say so.