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[quote author=Aloy+Emeka link=topic=457484.msg6196926#msg6196926 date=1276280501]It is the law accepted by the citizens of the Federal Republic of Nigeria and I think you should respect it. If it works for them who are you to come and tell them that the law in their Motherland is wrong?[/quote]I am Nigerian by birth, and if I am affected by a stupid law, I have the right to complain.
If the law needs change then it should be reviewed.

The fact that the daft Senators are more interested in stealing money while they just photocopy the UK Constitution isn't a valid reason.

Fhemmmy:
We all do, but we could all find a way to develop ours too

When it gets developed, we will buy.
People buy stuff from popular Nigerian designers don't they??

Why should I be the one wearing crappy stuff to 'be Nigerian'??

Even in the UK, French/Italian shoes are known for their quality, so forget that side about 'inferiority complex' thingy, it's getting boring.

[quote author=Aloy+Emeka link=topic=457484.msg6195242#msg6195242 date=1276266272]Polygamy is only legal in Nigeria under the customary law. If you married in the court and cheats on your wife with another woman, she can legally kick you out of the very house you built before you married her and take over your business. It has happened in Lagos 2 times. So, be careful how you assert the law and zip up unless you want to end up under Ojuelegba bridge. Nigerian women of this age are no more ready to take BS from men like you. You cheat, you pay dearly. 93% of your net worth or nothing.[/quote]You are being daft here. . . so because I support a change in the laws guarding divorce rights, I'm a cheating husband??
Let's be reasonable here and avoid personal statements please.

As I said before, look at the big picture, the law is wrong. . . full stop.
Just because it's the law doesn't mean it's perfect . . . you still haven't given a reasonable justification for these laws.

These laws are as daft as the law banning improper positioning of stamps on envelopes.

spikedcylinder:
Plus, he should not just pay her for upkeep of the kids and basic maintenance. Living for 30yrs with him, she'll be used to a certain lifestyle and going below that (I forgot the term for it - Relative Income Hypothesis, I think) is economically errr detrimental. He should pay her such that she can keep up with her lifestyle whilst taking care of herself and her kids.

Oh I get it . . . so we should punish him for introducing the stupid woman to the good life??
WOW!!! How low can you guys go . . . this same woman did not go out and when he was building his business but now he should suffer for helping her out from her possibly poverty-stricken upbringing??

How then can we open our mouths and say we're helping women if we train them into becoming gold-diggers and all that??

Besides you say a marriage is not a prison, what's the difference between losing half your property and being locked up??

spikedcylinder:
He should not be punished for sleeping with his maid, he should be punished for cheating on his wife within the confines of their marriage (which is ordained by the law) as should be the case if it were the other way round.
My moral standards have nothing to do with an industrialist humping a tree, I was simply pointing out what was *common knowledge* regarding certain aspects of dating and marriage.
Marriage is not a prison, definitely. He wants out, fair enough. He should pay for going out. It's not a regular man/woman relationship that you can drop like hot lead. That's why people need to think carefully before going into such institutions because there are laws guiding them. If you are not marriage material and know your snake cannot remain in your knickers, don't get married.
Simples.

Under the law, a marriage is a contract.
When contracts are severed, compensation is based on what you brought to the contract and not halving the defecting party's property.
The law is not there to halve people's property because they made a simple mistake and arguably victimless, it makes a mess of the legal system.

In your own logic, when I sign a contract to work for a company for a period of time and I quit without a reason, they should come and take half of my investments.
Or isn't the workplace contract an institution ordained by the law too??

It is totally unreasonable and out-of-place for the law to be used as a tool for revenge when love goes sour.
The law is wrong . . . and it needs to be fixed, it's already getting enough criticism in the UK, I'm sure Nigeria is waiting there like the obedient dog waiting for them to correct theirs first.

ddone:
Really? I thought there was a South African player on the goal line

Yeah that's true, but offside rules say the attacker cannot be behind the second to the last defender.
Usually, the keeper is the last defender, but in this case, the keeper was outside.

spikedcylinder:
Then why did he get married in the first place? To find someone to boss around? To be at his beck and call? Many men sleep around regardless, it doesn't mean they don't love their wives or that they want a divorce.
Also, people are harping on the fact that he slept with his maid for the simple reasons in dating/marriage - it is quite unethical to sleep with your partner's friend, sister, brother, employee, mother or father. The fact that she's a maid and human is not the bone of contention here, she's an employee of his wife. Sleeping with her is not only disrespectful to his wife but his children and everything else his marriage stood for.
If there are no consequences for certain actions, laws that need to be re-addressed and put in place etc, everything will just be exercises in futility.

There are consequences . . . moral and social retribution are powerful enough to handle cases of ideological differences.
The law is not there to punish people for being 'unethical' with Spikedcylinder's moral standards.
Truth be told, how unethical is it in a country where polygamy is not illegal.

A marriage is not a prison . . .and we shouldn't financially cripple somebody because he realised that he made a mistake in his social life and he wants out.
Fine she should get enough money to support herself and her children . . . but it should end with the amount needed to sstain the life of the average middle class Nigerian.

[quote author=Aloy+Emeka link=topic=457484.msg6194845#msg6194845 date=1276262392]Why do you find it difficult to swallow the fact that splitting properties law has come to stay in Nigeria?. Are you threatened by it or what?. If you are not comfortable with the law, stop cheating on your wife chikena.

The man may have made the money but he wouldn't achieve his full potential if the woman was not doing her job at home. So, she deserves half his empire as her share of their marriage property, child support to feed, clothe and shelter the man's children and alimony to compensate for the heart break and embarrassment.  That is why I suggest she gets 80-90% of their business empire and everybody will be even.[/quote]Dude, just because it's the law doesn't mean it's right.
Yeah, it is wrong to cheat on your wife, but is it the job of the law to punish you for sleeping with your housegirl??
Since when did it become the job of the law to protect christian ideologies??

Are you being serious?? She deserves half of his property because she was cleaning the house and he was toiling hard building an empire??
This makes a whole joke of the UK-Wales and Nigerian legal systems, feminism and family life.

Like seriously . . . you think people should lose 80% of their property for having consensual sex with other people just because they're married.
Sometimes you guys just amuse me with this, copy the UK thing.

And these are the same people that are planning to imprison people for being gay.
Nigeria is a joke.

Did you guys miss the memo??
Messi is the most likely player to score in all three games . . . according to all UK bookies.
It's a win-win for me, if he doesn't score in all three, I get money off the bookies, if he does, I get fantasy points.

Is it closed now?? I need to examine Messi's rolein my team.

favouredjb:
well,i know the house maid is human too, i agree with you,but do u think its fair?

You know what I think is not fair?? Staying in a marriage when all you want to do is sleep with someone else.

[quote author=Aloy+Emeka link=topic=457484.msg6191632#msg6191632 date=1276209366]Nobody is stopping him for preferring his housemaid but he should be man enough to pay the prize.[/quote]What price?? Splitting his property into two and giving half to a woman that was only there to spend your money in the first place??
We have taken some useless things from UK law, but divorce settlements are on a whole new level.

UK divorce laws are still stuck in the age-old concept that women are less able to work than men, hence the need to compensate them for divorces.
But this is 2010, most women work/should work, so where's the justification for paying her that exorbitant amount of money??

I'm still yet to see someone that can bring a reasonable answer to this simple question.

Freaking arrogant plonkers . . . would it have been better if he were sleeping with a banker??
What's with the stupid emphasis on the housemaid part.

I still don't get why it should be the job of the law to punish a man for preferring his housemaid to his wife.

@Sauron

You forgot to add the fact that most people in the finance and legal sector live off bonuses.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=262653.msg6176857#msg6176857 date=1276022174]When are we going to review PUBLIC ENEMIES. . . . .
I think it's one of the best movies of LAST YEAR. . . .Johnny Depp gave a sterling performance.
This movie is air-tight!!![/quote]I'm going to try to see how good this movie is.
I'm not Johnny Depp's biggest fan though.

tkb417:
for where, me wey i dey earn N50k per month

how i wan afford ticket to London; im moving to Accra soon

ol boi, i get one babe wey go show tht BBQ. trust me na correct babe
u go likey

How is she like . . . I trust you jare, you're on point like Fabregas' shot.
I'm going out now, abeg offline me her data .

tkb417:
hehehehe

how can a local Lagos boi like me close down 40/40?

i dont have the capability; im still an apprentice when it comes to flossing

Egbon . . . abeg small small na.
Haba, you wey get VIP of the VIP section for there.

We know how you don't like to shout but don't worry, the girls love your style.

I don't know where J-girl is right now, she's probably in my backyard like that.

dayokanu:
TKB actually went to Canada to get a lap dance and returned back to Canada 4 days later because he forgot to tip the barman.

Even we wey I tavelled out to Seme didnt post it on front page

J-girl na air hostess, Her yansh no dey siddon for somewhere

The barman was off-duty so he came back the next week to tip him.

TKB has flown more than the pilot of most planes . . . J-girl has her own VIP seat on Virgin Airlines, they don't ask her what she wants anymore.

You don get Seme visa?? Thank God ooh . . . finally

tkb417:
why o
cos of the favourable tax or u want some mosquitoes

how far with our thing na

Hehehe . . . see this egbon ooh.
I heard that you closed down the bar at 40/40.

It's not fair maynne . . . how can you buy Cristal for over 50 people in one night.
Your level of flossing is illegal in China.

Man on Fire . . . SICK!!!!

Krayola:
What is with all the Drake hate sef? After all the peace and love wey Canada dey promote all over the world why una dey hate us nah?

No be so-so cow full Canada??

@Ogaga4luv
Like seriously, you saw Julie and Julia and you still think her acting was more fun to watch than Meryl Streep's??

Besides, the movie ended immediately the took the boy into the house . . . the rest was B.S.
What exactly where they trying to achieve with the rest of the movie?? This is like watching an action movie and seeing the lead actor get shot and having to watch the funeral before the movie ends.

My point is, it's not funny, it's not a serious drama . . . what is it??
Loopholes like, he saw his brother at the restaurant but we don't hear bout him forever . . . and what's the deal with the 101 coaches coming to the house, like seriously . . . he only knocked two people down.
If I want a football movie . . . Longest Yard, if I want a shabby grass to grace story . . . any rapper movie will do.

obinna5000:
Sandra Bullock won it because she can do the country accent of Leigh Anne Tuoy better.

That was the fakest country accent I've ever seen.
Even Halle Berry's Monster's Ball accent was realer than that.

Kenyy:
The #1billion demanded by the woman is too small. I wish the woman could get an international[b] legal practitioner who could actually take average of the Supremacy of the UK Laws over Nigerian Laws when it comes to the issue of divorce settlement.[/b] Besides, there was a similar case where a woman(MRS Agbaje), dissatisfied with the judgement obtained in  a Nigerian Court, went to a UK Court to obtain a more favourable judgement. In fact, the property of the man was shared 60/40 by the UK Court. 

I am currently searching for the UK Judgement(verdict) and immediately I get it, I will post it for the House to read. Please use the link below to read part of the judgement. Cheers

http://www.saharareporters.com/articles/external-contrib/6034-big-money-divorce-cases-a-nigerian-wrong-can-be-righted-in-england.html

I don't quite agree with that . . . UK law is not supreme to Nigerian law in any area.
The only reason why the Agbaje case was judged in a the Supreme Court(UK) was because the woman could demonstrate a substantial connection to Britain in their lives.
She was resident in the UK and both of them were born there. . . . besides the Agbaje property in question was in the UK. . . not the Virgin Industries in Nigeria.

This case has nothing to do with the UK, as long as she is ordinarily resident in Nigeria, probably only went to the UK on a visiting visa, it is a Nigerian case.
Abrahimovic's wife couldn't get her case into the UK courts after the dude divorced her in Russia.
And everyone know UK divorce laws are unfair against men.

The Blind Side

It's a silly excuse for a movie . . . it makes a mess of every grass-to-grace movie.
Simplifies everything, from charity, to American Football, to black people in general.
I can't believe the number of years they spent trying to pick a college, with each coach knowing next to nothing about acting.

What does Sandra Bullock have to do not to get an Oscar?? . . . in a year when Meryl Streep did Julie and Julia??
Even the acting from half the actors in the film was disgraceful.


WTF!!! Just saw that the movie got an Oscar nomination!!!
I think my taste in movies is wack.

dayokanu:
When Grafite saw what Drogba, Rooney, Nistelrooy, John Carew of Valencia, Alex of PSV, Pizaro of Bayern and almost every footballer including Muisi Haruna of 36 kiniun of Ebute Metta did to the Arsenal defence time and again he knew he could do same also

So you're blaming Arsenal for the fact that one player turned your whole team into crash-test dummies??
I heard that the[b] post-Graffitic stress[/b] disorder is still affection your players till next year

Haba . . . one man, and he's not even Maradona or sumn.

mukina2:
Happy Birthday Eldee

Mukina . . . I love you, but you need to chill on that weed that Dayokanu is giving you.

[quote author=A-40 link=topic=454066.msg6184936#msg6184936 date=1276121897]@Eldee
Drake the future of hiphop music?? I laugh in Father-U-Turn thats stretching it[/quote]Don't take that up with me, take it up with Jay-Z (the same person that predicted that Kanye would change the rap scene five years ago).

Ibime:
Too many blurred lines between HipHop and Pop music nowadays. . . Eldee say na good HIPHOP music, me I say na good HIP POP music. . . . when Drake puts his mind to rapping, he is actually a good rapper. . . . oya, make una allow issue rest. . .

I think As We Enter is good music too . . . will you call that hip-reggae??

hax:
Wrong on so many levels. lmao
- When you listen to an album, your comments become 'fact'?
- How do you know I haven't listened to the sh-!t? Did you hack into my iTunes?
Now why would I give my verdict on something I've not listened to? I keep an open mind. I'm NOT a fan of Drake. But I download his stuff and listen to it to find out if it is nice or not. I wasn't a big fan of B.o.B's, but I thought under T.I.'s management, he would do something good. He sang a sick hook on T.I.'s 'On Top Of The World'. And he had his buzz. That was enough for me. But I listened to it and thought it was poppy crap and used Nothin On You as an example because it shows the problems of the whole album clearly.

1. I made factual statements about the endorsement he already had and his last songs. I didn't say anything about Thank Me Later till today.

2. Dude . . . what did you say on the Eminem thread just this afternoon??
You said you were yet to listen to it . . . 'I've heard only Nicki's verse on the whole Thank Me Later'

And your time thingy is B.S, doesn't even fit with the song at all, check Youtube.
I don't know what you're dragging this for, rappers do more rapping than singing.

@hax

I was comparing Thank Me Later to B.O.B's The Adventures of Bobby Ray.
Not Drake V B.O.B . . . and in my opinion, B.O.B's hooks are better.
I only put the Giggz song because I remember you on a thread saying he couldn't sing. . . I was like, WTF!!!

If you listen to old music, you'll notice that most times at the end of major eras different genres forge into a recognisable sound for the era itself.
It's been like that ever since, that's how you get sounds that define decades.

And yes, real rock fans don't like Lil Wayne because he's not good at rock . . . but they love Kanye to bits.
Rappers are not good musicians, it's something that you'll soon learn.
I believe in making good music, and when I say he did a rock song, I meant a rap song with Rock influences like Numb/Encore.

And I don't know if you didn't notice but R'nB (Yeah, KARMA), Rock (Let It Rock, Linkin Park), Soul, Pop(Diva) and most progressive genres have one time or the other picked up rap influences.
If it's good music, put it in . . . even MJ had some hiphop influenced sounds.

'Commercial' and safe is what Drake did, it's different from B.O.B's innovation . . . I've only listened to TML once though.

[quote author=hatch# link=topic=459274.msg6184712#msg6184712 date=1276119537]Redsky I admit I may have used the word "jealous" in a very uncalled for manner and I indeed feel kinda remorseful but I think the thread is becoming as much fun as watching LFL in yankee. [/quote]You went to Yankee too?? ?? ??

WOW!!! Let me notify Seun, that's the next Homepage topic

'Are Kenyans in the White House Jealous of Us??'

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=459274.msg6184653#msg6184653 date=1276118982]Debosky has a permanent VIP section reserved for him @ 40/40.
The bobo na bigboy o. . . . .Shitpacking na serious biznizz. [/quote]Debosky is the main reason why the Ralph Lauren store on Bond Street is running out of Polos.
This guy has bought then for all his family members.

I seriously want to get into this shitpacking business maynne . . . right now I'm still on the level of opening a thread to say I visited the UK twice in one year.

hax:
Your opinion is now fact? lol

Nah . . . fact is listening to the album before making any comments regarding the topic.
Which you didn't.

hax:
Maybe you're the one in 2023. A time where Alicia Keys, Beyonce and Rihanna are regarded as old school hip-hop.
B.o.B barely rapped on the song, Bruno Mars took over the whole song with chorus since the verses were forgettable, and B.o.B did his share of singing too. lol
Same with Drake these days. It seems to be a successful rapper these days, you need to rap LESS. More singing and auto-tune! That's GOOD HIP HOP!

Hooks have always been more popular than verses since the days of Moses, stop saying it like it's sumn new.
They still rap more than they sing . . . time stamps will prove that to you.
They just concentrate more on the way their rap verses sound.

hax:
True, good jazz music has little to do with punchlines.

Good HIP HOP music on the other hand?

Where would J. Cole be if he couldn't brag that he's 'heating up like may weather' and Shad couldn't say 'his life got more issues than a magazine'?

You disappoint me.

And I've said it a few times that I prefer stories, content and multi's to punchlines.

Multies and rhyme schemes and overall delivery are the parts that make hiphop music . . . the rest is poetry, punchlines, wordplay, that's all poetry.
There have been countless rappers that didn't need to brag or drop punchlines to be recognised as gifted rappers.