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[quote author=Sisi_Kill link=topic=464533.msg6233759#msg6233759 date=1276796549]This is the stupidest thread yet!

One tries to kill a plane full of innocent people and the other loses a fccccuking football game and you think it's the same thing??!!    Misplaced Priorities . . . This is why Nigeria and Nigerians are a mess.

It's really sad to see ignorance displayed so openly and proudly too.[/quote]Hehehe . . . come on, it's just a joke.

Besides Kaita's act was a 9/11 against Greece, they would have sent the Spartans to come destroy us.

rapjunkie:
whatever eldee. . . . . . . na u carry your nonsense come here. . . . .

next time when u see my post just keep 

Hehehe . . . you should have used Mekdoss for this one.
Or did you forget the password??

@RJ and clones

I don't have time for this . . . we all know who's being the kid here.
I do hope you grow up, and erm, I do wish K16 well, it's bout time, he's been here for way to long but hasn't influenced anything.

slimshay:
First things first, no 2 weeks from hell a la last season.

We do have two weeks of hell . . . we play Man Utd, Chelsea and Man City in the space of about two weeks.

ofokaofoki:
what do u mean eldee, u mean rapjunkie is audio or what?

Well . . . you tell me, I thought it was obvious.

rapjunkie:
eldee is still smarting over my annihilation of MI on various threads over the past few weeks .  u need to grow up and wipe your snot with a tissue young lady.

nothing to say on this thread apart from MPD. . . . . pathetic!!

Dude . . . the only thing I have to say is, multiple usernames is so old-school . . . even the famous Bolaji outgrew it ages ago.
[b]Remember I'm a moderator.
[/b]Besides you should be happy that I'm helping you promote your guy, it saves you time wasted on a new username.

MPD!!! .

Maynne . . . just when I thought Ruggedman went low!!!
Bitchass nigga!!!

Game = Kelly Handsome

hax:
Pointless. What bullsh-itting? lol
You might think it's helping your argument, but it isn't.

Erm . . . you were bullshitting, you got caught out, it's about telling the truth not bout any argument.

hax:
It might seem impossible, but he pulled it off. And your reading impediment would lead you to believe that i said Nothin on you was 'very nice'. lol
I've been bashing it for a while, you know. And I already told you Past My Shades was only saved by a hot Lupe verse.

Makes no sense at all.

hax:
*yawn*
So we can't make predictions again?
I like trying my hand at them to see whether I'll be right. It's fun. Like this- 'eldee will reply this with another silly and pointless post.'

It's funny how you find it hard to differentiate between predictions and pre-conceived opinions.

hax:
Yup. Back to that reading impediment. If I told you all you needed to make good music was good punchlines, then this argument would work. But I posted a link to a punchline-heavy mixtape on ALL used beats. Would I base my argument on what good hip-hop music should be on a mixtape without original production? You think I'm as du-mb as you are? Production is a major part of hip-hop. Or we'd have alot more acapellas.

I only posted it so more people would listen to him. I like listening to good music and hearing what others have to say about it. I thought someone would listen to it and if s/he liked it, we'd talk about how awesome LoS is.

Well . . . could you please reference links that are relevant to the debate next time??
I seriously don't see the need to discuss LoS' punchlines when you're replying a post about TML and B.O.B . . . I don't take you serious half the time, doing that just drags it.

hax:
How about Jay-Z's American Gangster?
And I'll ignore the 2nd line since it was irrelevant and just meant to be a little dig. lol

Dude . . .if you need sumone to start telling you what's good music and what's not, you shouldn't be on this thread.
This is getting way too boring man.

hax:
Don't know GMF.

Grandmaster Flash.

hax:
Yup. Talking about Floetry's voices is helping our discussion about good 'hip-hop' music.

Well . . . if you don't know what's good music in the first place, I won't expect you to know what good hiphop music is.

hax:
good for you. like if I stop replying my posts will vanish. lol

Erm . . . I dunno whatchu saying, but . . . whatever negro.

hax:
i r nt anti-souf.
Yup. They are terrible. Chanting the same line over and over isn't cool.

[hook]
Past my shades (x12) lmao

Melody is not in the words, I can't keep telling you thins all the time, an average ear will notice that they changed the tone in the hook about 3/4 times.
Listen to New York State of Mind . . . and go complain about the number of times Nas said 'New York New York'.

hax:
You're doing a good job yourself. lol
More singing + more pop beats + less rapping = more hip-hop.

Stop being a rapjunkie, there's more than one way to make good rap music, and there's no where I said that is the formula to make good hiphop music. . . seriously man, your innuendos are getting boring.

hax:
But it shouldn't.
lmao

Call me old fashioned, but when Mr X buys your Cds, plays your music in his clubs and goes to your concerts . . . he might actually like the kind of music you do.

hax:
Nice one.
Neither do I. That's why I'll listen to anything with an open mind and give it a fair chance. Or I wouldn't even listen to Drake in the first place. I like listening to good music. I don't mind where it comes from.

Yeah right . . . open mind is 'he's gonna make a boring album that onlu girls will buy' before you listen to it.
Your own style of 'open mind' must be different from the style everyone else uses.

hax:
You should try it too. Good hip-hop music. Listen to Black Thought rip the beat apart. Youtube 'Dear God 2.0' and you'll wonder why you listened to B.o.B in the first place.

Illmatic has got the most spins on my I-pod touch, I don't wonder why I listen to B.O.B.
Can any The Roots album touch Illmatic??

hax:
Do you think B.o.B is as skilled as Drake is lyrically?

No . . . I don't see why that should be in the debate in the first place, I talked about making good music not lyrics.

spikedcylinder:
My 'valid points' are unacceptable to you, as yours are to me. If eldee's kini is meant solely for the maid and gardener, you can even throw in the butler in there, that's his palava. But eldee shouldn't get married or else someone stands the chance of taking away half his 'empire'.
Meanwhile, sagamite usually has several pints of O-ve in his refrigerator. Join his party, whydoncha?

That's the thing . . . you're using a moral argument which is totally baseless.
And celebrating the law when you know it's unjust . . . I just need to see a reasoning that will hold water.

My argument is sumn you've not even challenged, all you're doing is bringing yourself as a moral yardstick and saying how I don't measure up.
I think you should get married to Aloy-emeka

hax:
So you know it's a waste of time, right?
My predictions for the album were a little off target. Sue me.
You sold it to me, didn't you.

Oh . . . so you decided to quit the bullshitting??
Nice.

hax:
5 out of 12 is good? Especially when the other 7 tracks were very poor? And one of the 'nice' tracks had a catchy hook and ZERO lyrical content, and the other 'nice' track was saved only by a fxcking HOT verse from Lupe Fiasco? Get out.

Hehehe . . . yeah, five very nice songs and seven very crap songs, you make so much sense.

hax:
It was a prediction. And it does have its share of boring tracks. Like Find Your Love, Shut It Down, Fancy, Cece's interlude and Unforgettable, imo.
Exactly. So what's your point? I predicted. I say 'J. Cole's album will be sick'. I thought B.o.B's album would be sick after hearing Nothin On You and Airplanes. Guess I was wrong. Get over it.

That's why I made the statement . . .'forgive me for basing my opinions on facts/evidence' . . .
Now you get over it.

hax:
Quote me. Where did I say so?

You chat so much B.S, I was talking bout good hiphop music and you brought in sum Los dude and your supporting statement was 'sickest punchlines you ever heard' . . . I'll start to ignore half the things you say from now, these 'where did I say that' comments are just annoying.

hax:
If B.o.B is 'great hip-hop music', then what's Illmatic and Ready to Die? Or Slim Shady LP? lol

Legendary hiphop music with legendary rap/lyrical content.
When will you learn what's music and what's not??

hax:
I also told Chiogo a while ago, is there a song where you can say 'damn that was a sick verse by B.o.B'? If there isn't, why is it a hip-hop album in the first place? Dre and Snoop and Mobb Deep got away with not being super-lyrical with superb production. B.o.B's production is. . . pop. Not good enough to carry a whole RAP album when the RAPPER can't RAP and the production doesn't knock. I can recommend some music to you if you want. You obviously don't listen to enough music if you think Bobby's adventures is good 'hip-hop'.

Tell me one GMF album that you can point to a verse and say 'that was a sick verse'.
Now come out and say he wasn't good hiphop music.

hax:
I wish you didn't.
*yawn* going off topic again. You don't have to reply. lol

Off-topic . . . aren't we talking bout what's good music and what's not??

Not reply?? And let everyone read the B.S you're spewing?? I do this for you

hax:
This is one position I don't really like. Defending one who's 10x less sh-itty than the other.

Whatever.

Show Me a Good Time, Over, and Fireworks hooks were better than everything on B.o.B's  apart from Nothin On You. Which was by Bruno Mars anyways. lol
Seriously? With terrible hooks like 'Bet I', 'The Kids' and 'Past My Shades'? I'm sure you wouldn't like to be caught singing the hook of 'Fame'. And if the hook of '5th dimension' is your thing, then well, good for you. You want less rap in hip hop music anyways.

You think the hooks of Past My Shades and Magic are 'terrible'??
Bet I's is horrible?? I get the fact that y'all 'hiphop heads' are anti-South, but you must be tone-deaf to spew fuckery like this.

hax:
Umm. . . so?

So your thing about . . 'he sang on that track, he's not hiphop' or 'R'n'B' must be Boyz II Men is complete B.S.
Give me a better informed argument.

hax:
REALLY? Real rock fans love Kanye? lmao

Well that's if the fact that he's performed at bigger rock concerts than Arctic Monkeys should be taken into account.

hax:
No. If I want to listen to RnB, I'll buy Alicia's latest.

Well, I don't discriminate against good music . . . I've got Element of Freedom, but I've also got Usher's U Don't Have To Call.
I don't care bout your taste in music, the only people that take self proclaimed 'hiphop heads' serious are other 'hiphop heads'.

hax:
Thank God The Roots are dropping an album in 2 weeks time. Heard enough sh-it recently.

Erm . . . okay!!!

hax:
I'm happy you didn't even try to compare Drake and B.o.B's lyrical skills. But I'm sure his horrible singing and pop beats make up for it though.

Dunno whatchu talking about.

It's wack!!!

I seriously don't see why I should be discussing Thank Me Later while the World Cup is going on, but still

hax:
Nothin On You is nice. Airplanes 1 and 2 are nice. Very nice. And 5th dimension. And Past My Shades. Sadly, the rest of the album is crap.

So five of the twelve songs on the album are in your own opinion 'very nice' . . . but the album is crap??
You're on green crack.

hax:
That did not make any sense at all, neither did it answer my question, but. . . okay, i guess.

It's simple, you made comments about TML about it was 'boring' days before you listened to it, I waited till I listened to the whole album, I can't remember the question, but that should answer it.

hax:
Heard of this kewl thingamajiggy called an iPod?

Stop being petty, TML wasn't even leaked when you said it was boring.

hax:
Maybe YOU should provide your own time thingy and prove me wrong? I'm not going to argue with you anymore since all you do is dodge my points.

Dodging your points?? I've said my part, B.O.B is great hiphop music . . . I don't need to pause and play to prove that, you're the one coming here to say it's not good hiphop music because there are no punchlines.
I've not got time for long baseless arguments man.

You don't think B.O.B makes good music, that would have shocked me if not for the fact that I once heard you come out to say Floetry's voice is good.

[quote author=ruba_slipa link=topic=457484.msg6210495#msg6210495 date=1276493260]Gotta say that I'm with the women on this one. Some of the comments men are making on this issue are disgraceful, don't list me among those men 'uniting to keep women down', especially with specious arguments.[/quote]If y'all will step back and see that it's not a Men V Women thing and see that justice shouldn't be gender-coded, you'll agree with me.

[quote author=ruba_slipa link=topic=457484.msg6210495#msg6210495 date=1276493260]Adultery or no adultery (and knowing what I can even do myself, let alone knowing what I have heard of happening before, I'm betting that this big man has seen more 'pata', than just the one his wife wears), the fact is that he is the one who wants to divorce his wife. In almost every advanced country, the eventual laws decree that when a man wants to abandon his wife and children, he has to continue to take care of them same way, they are not old socks that have developed holes. It's not just the support his wife gave him in the early years, it's the fact that he supposedly entered into a lifetime partnership contract with her, which he now wants to tear up.[/quote]As I already pointed out before . . . there is no contract that could reasonably justify you halving one party's assets because of a breach.
It is unreasonable and out of touch with modern life to continue with this barbaric tradition.

[quote author=ruba_slipa link=topic=457484.msg6210495#msg6210495 date=1276493260]Again, in most countries, the final legal position is that rich or poor, the richer party asking for divorce pays to maintain the 'ex' according to their means, and according to the wealth gained during the marriage. So a poor man can get away with 'tashere' money, because that's all he has. This man has to pay real money, as he can afford it. It even goes for mega-rich wives. Madonna had to pay her (rich) ex around £50m plus property when they divorced.

As far as I can see, most of the men making shameful comments are simply in favour of men being able to abandon their families cheaply. It is not only Nigerian men that like to be able to do this - the same behaviour shaped the divorce laws in Europe and America.[/quote]It will be daft for you to base your argument on 'because it's done like that in developed countries, it must be right'.

Isn't it the same 'developed' countries that stopped black people from voting up until the 1950s??
Isn't it these same developed countries that did barbaric things in the name of spreading civilization??
Didn't your developed country go to South Africa to oppress the indigenous black people up until the 1990s??

I find that line of argument an insult to my intelligence.

[quote author=ruba_slipa link=topic=457484.msg6210495#msg6210495 date=1276493260]It seems extreme for the very rich, but actually they are intended to safeguard the poor.[/quote]How is it meant to protect the poor when 2 of every 3 divorces are brought forward by wives??
Isn't that just proof of where the laws of the West tend to support??

spikedcylinder:
I can't be bothered to read all the arguments here but it seems we'll never agree to disagree.
Sagamite, I know is a lost cause. Him and satan are very good friends. Eldee, how do you plead?

You see what I said about not bringing in your moral standards into this.
I can't ignore the truth because I want to cross Spikedcylinder's moral threshold.

If you cannot bring valid points, I'll just go chill with Sagamite and Satan, they know a thing or two bout justice.

[quote author=Aloy+Emeka link=topic=457484.msg6202682#msg6202682 date=1276361095]Because there is no compensation to pay. Gbenga is 300x richer than Moji, so what does he want from her?.  He[Gbenga] should also be held responsible for child support tho even besides, his actions may be the reason why Moji cheated. Gbenga is known to be painting the town red with different women. This is not about Moji, it's about the injestice meted on women by Nigerian men and I am marveled at the speed all of them unite irrespective of religious, ethical and tribal differences in order to subdue women. Why do Nigerian men feel threatened and become self defensive whenever issues of divorce and the 50/50 settlement come up?[/quote]You know what he wants?? JUSTICE!!!
Everyone should be equal before the law . . . that just shows how wrong the law is in the first place.

By your logic, if I rob First Bank or Barclays, I should go without any punishment because they '300x richer' than me??
You're the one arguing blindly with some points that just make Def Jam Comedy look serious.

Three people on 9th?? I need to find a way to hit the Top 5 with Kaka.

I don't get why Van Persie got just 3 points . . . he assisted a goal, was the best on the pitch and was voted Man of the Match.
This is a conspiracy abeg.

Zonal marking cannot work against a team like this.

dayokanu:
who was supposed to mark heinze or how did he get such free header

Haruna's confidence on the ball is encouraging.

Sagamite:
We need to change this but DEFINITELY not to the stewpid model of the West.

There are some things we can learn from them, and there are places where we'll see how they've gone way too far.
We just need to see what's best for us.

rhymz:
. . .hmmm. . Lemme guess, you don't have a problem with your wife earning more than you, ok that is understandable. How about she being the bread winner of the family, being more educated than you? Ever talk to a woman before and you feel you are talking to an encyclopaedia??. . .hahahaha. . Sometimes, it is better to keep em tame than let em run their independent, feministic- I don't need no man circles on you! Call me weird!

That's where I said it's taken out of context.
Most times you'll meet your lady in places you frequent, and this is usually based on your social class.

But when it leads to men going to pick a wife from the village just so you can control her, then sumn is wrong.

Fhemmmy:
I guess this explains why people would buy at "bend down" boutique all in the names of buying brand names that they cant afford?

Yeah . . . everyone knows that in Nigeria, second hand shoes are of better quality than the home-made ones.
If you can't afford a new Emporio Armani wristwatch, get a secondhand one, it'll serve you better than a new one from Aba.

Sagamite:
The reality is that the Naija judicial system is very unfair on women.

I think society (women included) is unfair on women. . . it starts from basic ideologies like 'a woman is only complete when she gets married'.
Traditions like . . . 'don't marry a woman that will earn higher than you', 'a woman's job is to satisfy a man' . . . they are taken out of context and twisted till they degrade women.

Girls grow up learning it and think that their lives are tied to the men they marry.
All these things go into our institutions and end up influencing the judicial system.

Sagamite:
Is this science?

So how did Simon Cowell achieve his wealth without marriage?

How do alot of footballers and Tiger woods etc achieve their wealth before or without marriage?

That part of the whole thing is what makes me laugh the most . . .
What exactly was the woman doing that the housemaid wasn't??

In their logic, going to parties and closing down textile stores in Italy is a difficult job.
Sometimes we need to examine these western maxims . . . because I don't see how Coleen has contributed to Wayne Rooney's 32 goals this season.
Apart from the fact that she's always on shopping sprees on OK magazine.

tayo4me:
Even if she does not agree, the man will still blame her. I know of a woman who insisted on working despite her husband's warnings. She did this in order to prevent a situation where she has to beg her husband for everything or have nothing in case of a separation. The husband called her all soughts of names and said the wife was just making an excuse to cheat on him. He eventually sent her packing despite the pleas of people around him. Now what do you make of that?

There are so many marriages where women are treated less than human beings, that should have no say in what happens to their lives. It is just rather unfortunate.

You know what you should be saying instead of calling me 'archaic'??
You should be here supporting women to be able to leave men that try to enforce the old 'housewife' tradition on them.

If a man is insecure enough to stop you from applying your educational qualifications, he does not deserve to be with you.
Women rights is not all about equal pay, it's about knowing that you have the right to make your own decisions in any situation.

[quote author=Aloy+Emeka link=topic=457484.msg6197641#msg6197641 date=1276288189]I wonder why you did not complain or demand for a change in the typical Nigerian  culture that relegates women to the back seat. A culture where the man can wake up any day and send the woman packing to her fathers house with or without her children, replace her with another woman and still threaten to make life miserable for her?. How come you started complaining because your ego is threatened by the fact that women are over running the Nigerian judiciary and the law is slowly working towards their favor?. Just respect yourself and your wife otherwise your azz will be on the street. It is the new Nigerian order, get with the program as soon as possible if you know what is good for you. Bella-Power ebeano![/quote]I warned you to avoid personal comments . . . I have not in any way made any reference to your personal life based on your opinions.

Now, you know how I told you to see the big picture??
So you actually think it's empowering for women not to work and make their own wealth??
Because that's all this is encouraging.

I'm of the opinion that people should be able to end marriages when they want to, it's more respectful to the institution of marriage than living in empty shell marriages where you can't stand your spouse.
These extreme settlements are bad for the institution of marriage. . . do you get that drift??

mukina2:
buahahahahahahahaha LWKMD

is that a joke

chei

this guy should just retire na

The guy just wan collect that Eto wristwatch by force.

nateevs:
How would you see it when all you see is Diaby. . ?  

Are you going to say Diaby hasn't had a better game than Anelka/Ribery/Gourcuff??

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=459573.msg6197495#msg6197495 date=1276286540]Prayers answered!!!!

MALU comes on for Gourcouff. . . . .Senseless sub though.
Govou has done nothing tonight to be on the pitch.[/quote]This mofo has injured Sagna!!!

Come on . . . shouldn't it be Govou for Malouda??

nateevs:
Only a few players in the world can match Anelka's ball rentention skills. . .

What retention skills has he shown in this match?? You mean the way he's been the ball away from goal??

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=459573.msg6197421#msg6197421 date=1276285555]Rafael da Silva exposed Ribery. . . . .
That was the day i knew Alexander Hleb is better than Ribery. [/quote]Diaby is looking like a £20mil player right now. . . even Evra too.