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slimshay:
I read some post back Rhymstein talkin about how many multies DaGrin get sef. . . .ol boy he get plenty o, no be lie.

However on the matter of flow, I still say Da Grin was undoubtedly one of the best.

Rhymestein is only trying his best to win the Mugu of the Year Award.
But I think he'll have to up his game to beat Kaydee . . . it's going to be a close-call this year.

After three consecutive years of Ofoka winning the award, he gets smart and now these two are fighting tooth and nail for the role of Odelomo Latile (I) of Nairaland.

duduspace:
In your original post, it exceeded a line, have you dishonestly gone back to change your font size?  seems we'll soon need magnifying glasses to read posts.

Your primary school teacher . . . not me should be the one teaching you how to count.
I'll leave Sauron to continue with the job of exposing your mumu-ism, it'll be unfair of me to make a fellow gunner look daft.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=442715.msg6015501#msg6015501 date=1273237911]It's so SAD!!!!
But can you blame them?

I expect Nigerian Government to start regarding Brits/Americans in Nigeria as "Immigrants".
Maybe they will get the message by then. Lets start with the Lars Lagerback. Someone should call him a flaming immigrant. [/quote]Over 200,000 British citizens moved out of the UK in one year . . . they are all expatriates

The racist Brits have always had names for sugar-coating those kinds of things . . .

Robbing and murdering people in Benin City = The Punitive Expedition.
Clearing of Asia and killing people on the way = The Campaign in Asia.
Going to eliminate a whole race of Amerindians = Exploration and discovery of the Americas

The names sound so good, you'll think they were there to play cards with them.

duduspace:
Your number skills need some fine tuning, this actually exceeded a line. Wise heads fall into such folly when their points are not valid (still one line)

I'm ashamed for you . . . what's the name of your primary school?? Was it Pope Benedict School for Boys??

'The true test of your mental prowess in this case it the ability to get to the point instead of beating about the bush and still not making sense'

How can you count two lines out that?? No wonder Sauron makes you look daft all the time.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=442715.msg6015421#msg6015421 date=1273237073]I don't see any difference. . . . Maybe you need to look it up.
Who is to say who will return back to their country and who wouldn't?

It's just sheer hypocrisy for the Brits to be termed as expatriates in foreign lands and foreigners are called immigrants here.
U cannot tell me every foreigner in this country ALL have the intention to live on State benefits and not return back to their roots.

That is what i am aiming at.
Expatriates are not necessarily professionals. If a Soho junkie decides to go and stay in Nigeria, he will be described as an expatriate(by the Brits).[/quote]I heard a woman say the most ignorant thing to me on a train.
She was like . . . 'There are too many of these immigrants in the UK, I hate all of em . . . infact I'm moving to Australia'

That captures the hypocrisy in one quote.

@Slimshay

I think where we all disagree is the definition of 'founders'.

@DBR

It's obvious that we'll never agree on this thread, it's becoming a trend
But to start mixing the facts I used to support my points is not sumn I'll condone.

I stated three points that I'll still hold on to . . .

1. Yoruba's word-bank is limited . . . you're yet to prove otherwise.

2. His influences are American . . .  I used Chimamanda as an example, she only started learning how to use Nigerian themes and imagery after Chinua Achebe. I don't care if you're married to her, she said she thought it was 'impossible' before she started studying Nigerian writers.

3. Dagrin is one of the founding fathers of Yoruba hiphop . . . he doesn't have to be the first or the second or third . . . but when hiphop culture goes obsolete and you are told to talk about the people that started it, Dagrin is one of them.

He is a founding father of the sub-genre along with Lord of Ajasa, AY and others.
People did hiphop years before Young MC and Run DMC . . . but saying anything about the founders of hiphop without mentioning those names is treason in 127 countries. . . including Somalia.

You probably won't agree with any of those three points I raised, but it's aiite . . . we already agreed on some things.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=439183.msg6015225#msg6015225 date=1273234678]Duduspace is a big clown. . . . . .He needs 4000 words to get a simple message across.
Everytime a club fails in this recession, he justifies Wenger's failure with it - as if Football clubs have now become investment banks.
Arsenal are a football club - first and foremost which means winning trophies should be the main objective!!![/quote]O lenu bi Dagrin!!!

duduspace:
Maybe because human beings don't think in binary?, easiest question to answer in one line. 

The true test of your mental prowess in this case it the ability to get to the point instead of beating about the bush and still not making sense. (One line)

I think we need a word limit on NL, especially on football threads.
Why use ten lines when one will suffice??

Arsene has just one more chance . . . or Ese Sir, ewa malo.

[quote author=Kenny_G link=topic=442715.msg6014757#msg6014757 date=1273229890]how can you say that when the polls show otherwise? I for one voted torries for the first time purely because i like their plans for addressing pressing issues and refused to left sentiments rule. Do i think Gordon brown is an astute man? yes but the reality is him or his party have been in govt for 13years and its quite obvious people want change and mind you most of the tory haters are migrants who are opposed to his policy on immigration
Anyway lets wait and see how events unfolds[/quote]Right now, it's 303 VS 291 . . . in favour of 'I don't want Tories'.
Constitutionally, it's equal between Labour and Tories, those guidelines are there for a reason.

I don't mind their immigration policies, I just think Lib Dems are the best in that aspect.

ElRazur:
@Eldee, with time I am of the belief that all those weirdo parties will be voted out. Here is a comment someone posted in The Times.

"I must congratulate the honourable people of Barking who proved that they are not ignorant and are just and fair human beings who did not follow ignorance and hate politics of Nick Griffin and his alike. BNP has been shown the door by predominant whites of the area. In the end good triumphs over bad always."

A Jan.

The problem is not the BNP, the main problem is the fact that the fascist ideas are still in the minds of these people, waiting to come out with any minor problem.
Just look at the way the skinheads of the 70s went about killing Asians just because they lost their jobs, and then a recession causes unemployment  rates to go high in 2008 and everyone says it's the immigrants.

The mindset needs to change so it doesn't keep coming up everytime something goes wrong. . . that's my problem.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=442715.msg6014717#msg6014717 date=1273229403]Meanwhile, can't the Queen use her powers to retain Brown and tell Cameron and Clegg to feck off back to the hole they crawled out from?[/quote]That will be the end of British Monarchy
Infact they will stop asking for royal assent to pass new law if she says anything right now.

ElRazur:
Re BNP





I love this country.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article7119069.ece

OPE OOHH!!!
Now we need to get UKIP out of my county, Yorkshire.

[quote author=Kenny_G link=topic=442715.msg6014650#msg6014650 date=1273228742]Its not a matter of who supports the Lib dem policy best, but the overall interest of the nation, labour the incubent party lost almost 90 seats so they cant be that popular. Also how can gordon brown expect to do two terms in office without being officially elected by the people? His first term was a hand-me-down from tony blair and now a yeye pact keeps him in power[/quote]More people hate Consevatives than the number of people that actually like them. . . that's evident in the polls.
Now the overall good of the nation is in Lib Dems looking for which of the policies will serve the purpose they stand for.

If the number of people that voted the oldies are relatively equal, the overall good of the nation lies in the hands of the minority.
They deserve a voice too.
[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=442715.msg6014656#msg6014656 date=1273228772]Why must Gordon Brown come from Scotland sef?
His Scottish roots na disadvantage jare!!![/quote]I seriously support the call for a devolution of England.
These Scotts make their own laws but chop our own money.
I can't believe it's almost free to go to Uni in Scotland and Wales.

lynxnoon:
to get to the King n Queen the Pawns needs to be taken out

Abeg jare, they just want to bring the bad-guy part of Jack out.
If it were all about the truth, he won't have shot her . . . talkless of shooting he twice at pointblank range.

[quote author=Kenny_G link=topic=442715.msg6014589#msg6014589 date=1273228061]That's the way to go, afterall Cameron's party got the most votes/seats its only fair they are allowed to govern[/quote]What of the fact that more people voted against Cameron than for him, isn't that meant to count for something??
I think what would be fair is Lib Dems looking at both potential governments and forming a majority with the ones that best support their policies.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=442715.msg6014595#msg6014595 date=1273228110]If we are to go with the results of the TV Polls, Lib Dem would be winning by 500 seats as we speak.
The brave men that fought the Nazis in the 40s woulda fought in vain if anyone allows Nick Griffin to become the Prime Minister.

Don't even want to think about it. . . .What a moment that will be. . .A moment to induce immediate projectile vomiting.[/quote]Even on TV, Nick Griffin was never going to be Prime Minister, the American woman tore him apart on Question Time.

funkybaby:
my dear, it was a very very daft statement.

one would have expected him to be a bit more diplomatic about his first post-election statement, sit down with both parties and then have them EXPLAIN clearly their different policies and how it would affect everyone before then deciding who to pitch his tent with.

Everyone is using the 'we will work something out stance'. . . Lord Mandelson, Gordon Brown and even Cameron the winner.
But this olodo comes out and talks reckless . . . just to finally show us that he actually does not know what he's doing.

candylips:
but in terms of policies they seem to be a little bit more aligned.

am not sure how the Lib Dems will be able to work with the Conservatives

funkybaby:
agreed. but one would have expected him to be a bit more flexible.

Well . . . Clegg just made the daftest statement I've heard from anyone in a while.
He doesn't care about the policies, just anyone that gets the highest number of votes.
How daft is that??

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=442715.msg6014484#msg6014484 date=1273227041]FFS, the Tories are going to combine with Lib Dem.
I cannot stand David Cameron's face. . . . . .I think it's about time i relocate to Gambia.[/quote]I heard 40/40 Club is now empty because of the fear of a Cameron government

ElRazur:
What are you on about? They lost in their own backyard in Barking.

I think the media got it spot on by allowing them a free ride on the debate. The British public saw right through Nick and his sham. To make matters worse, he is hated by many minorities.

To be honest, he will be an obscurity once the economy picks back up again - During hard times [Global recession etc] Right wing bastarrds like him tend to spring up and blame it on others etc. Just look up on history, the thing is people soon forget them once everything is rosie and jolly jolly again.

You have the benefit of hind-sight jare.
He was the clear winner of the TV polls . . . his troubles only started in the third debate where he couldn't stand the scrutiny.
What happened was a shock to everyone.

RSA:
First let me say South Africans are not silly and illiterate.And I think Mpele's mistake was to try to reason with you,since I think you've got other issues that you have to deal with.

Regarding the world cup,it is in South Africa,hosted by South Africans and as host we have a right to demand certain things.To be honest you should be happy as an African that we don't let Europeans control us or send us around like headless chickens because we're Africans.
The sad things it is only in Africa where a visitor takes control of the host house and run things,and in South Africa our pride it too big to let anyone to do that in our backyard.
Maybe it was allowed inthe other world cups but in South Afruca we won't let it happens,if we do it will be because we want it to happen and it's not forced on us.
This world cup is sponsored by me,a taxpayer and a proud South African who want his country to move forward,

Erm . . . but they do control you. You guys live in the slums while they live in the best neighbourhoods.
Majority of the black neighbourhoods are places with extreme crime rate. . . or am I missing something here??
Well that's a topic for another day.

Now back to the World Cup . . .
So by letting Youssou N'dour do the France 98 world cup song France was being controlled by Senegal right??
Or didn't the French pay taxes too??

Sometimes maynne . . . I just marvel at your idiocy.
You are a poster-boy for the 'Ignorance is Bliss' campaign.

funkybaby:
seems its going to be a conservative + libdem combo

It will be hypocritical for Lib Dems to go with Labour after using the anti-old politics campaign.

DBR:
Hehheee, Eldee, no let that brain dead bozo set up o, he's sure lookin for pple to star in his life movie: Dead brain talkin'.

It's not bad to have an opinion, I don't know who's the best, but Dagrin has a 33% chance of taking the spot in my opinion.

DBR:
See, i dont believe it's harder. Dagrin wasnt force or sentenced to rap in yoruba.
He chose it cos tht wat he's more flexible wit. if u dont get that point there's nothin i can do.
if im more dexterous in french, i can manipulate it, turn and twist it to achieve ma goals, i wldnt think i culdda done beta wit another language. whether that language has the largest body of words or not. And now u agree he uses english, but of course u only agree now to further your own point hence u use borrow~~u amuse me, truly.
Ok, so if he uses/borrows english too, that means he has 2languages to toggle, so how constricted is he then.
I beg rest dis matter, u dont have a point.

Yeah, he's more comfortable with Yoruba, but the problem here is that the word-bank is probably not up to a quarter of that of English.
Just because I decide to use sunflower oil to make beans and I get really good at it doesn't mean I not still at a disadvantage compared to you that uses palm oil.

Yeah, he does borrow from English . . . it's called improvising man, not toggling. There's still a limit to how far you can go trying to rhyme 'gbadura' with 'Yar'adua'

DBR:
Guess u dont fully understand what influence is.
So french writers who are influenced by greek writer find it more difficult to write in french?
Same goes for german artist influenced by the americans?
Tupac influeced political activist, and they dont even rap.
Dagrin cld be influenced by 2pac, but influece influences, it doesnt restict.
Some pple are even influenced to do greater than their influence irrespective of creed,language or nationality.

Now you're seriously just denying the truth to support your stance.
Chimamanda Adichie always talks about how she grew up reading Enid Blyton books. . . when she started writing, she felt more comfortable using imagery from 60s Britain.
She specifically noted that all her old writing had words like 'tulips', 'goblins' and 'elves'. She was influenced by Brit writers, even her style was Brit.

She then noted that she only changed when she started reading Chinua Achebe books . . .she even said she never believed it was possible before she read Things Fall Apart.
This is coming from someone that's written three award-winning books.

DBR:
This is not a subject of discourse. I neva disputed that, and u have what i said that u quoted to show that.
I do not see the relevance of this.
I luv dagrin, he put mother tongue rap a hot look.
I heard him and im like yeaa, now we talkin, this is wat mother tongue is all'bout.
like i said and always say, he's a beast on the mic.
He flows wella, but flow king? nahh~~Neva!

oNe

What's the relevance?? He started it . . . it would have been easier for him if there were Yoruba people to emulate.
The same way Grand Master Flash would have been lyrically better if Nas came before him. . . . see where I'm coming from??
It was harder for GMF to be lyrical because he was one of the founding fathers . . . same with Dagrin.

As I said, if you asked me this question three months ago, I'd have said M.I without even flinching.
But right now, I can't tell . . . and I'm not going to make any statement that's not based on fact or at least an opinion I can stand by.

Lib Dems leading in my endz . . .thank God, last time BNP got a seat from here.
I can't even sleep, it's almost like if I blink, they'll get 87 more votes.

kaydee:
@ Eldee

U need "Agbo". Ibime is right here telling U the same ish now and i don't need to prove anything again.Make them carry U go synagogue,U go soon dey "Bu igi je"

slowpoke asking of my primary school,if u was ever in one,then,U no dey do correction nii? I don tire, I wasn't paid to school U slowpoke, Look and learn,must U type?

WOW!!! Hiding behind Ibime now?? Isn't that just typical of an ADD sufferer.
Avoiding basic strings of thought and cloaking it with abject stupidity.
I said it before that you are incapable of applying logic to anything on your own and now you've proven it beyond reasonable doubt.

I've asked so many questions that you've found impossible to give a reply befitting of someone that has any education beyond primary level.
I guess the million dollar question is what's the name of your primary school?? At least your brain power should be able to process that.

I forsee someone coming up with a diss line like . . . 'we spraying dead presidents forget Yar'adua'.

Rhymstein:
And me thinks,eldee is scared of sauron,cos if na me,he go dey curse pesin anyhow,or is he your gud friend?

WTF!!! Where did that one come from??

The media keeps showing how powerful they can be all the time.

The BNP came on BBC and they became an almost there party.
Only in Britain will a debate make a minority leader one of the most popular faces in Britain.

Ibime:
These new backpack HipHop fans na wa o. . . . how can one say that Modenine stole MI's style?. . . . does MI own the style originally?

It's easier talking to you abeg.
He doesn't own the styles originally . . .it's owned by T.I, Lil Wayne and Kanye West . . .cool.
But then if we hear this exact same thing from someone else, who is this person copying??

kaydee:
I can't keep arguing with a slowpoke like U, U'll be one forever.

Vector sounds like Hov,if 2mrw someone jacks his style,are we gonna say he sounds like Vector or Hov?

Man go steal a brain!!!U can't afford one.

If Vector adds Joe Budden's elements to the Jay-Z he already has now, if you jack that style, you're jacking Vector's not Jay-Z or Joe Budden.
Isn't that just simple logic. What's the name of your primary school??

The audacity of hope is enough to make me expect that you'll get well someday.
You're ignorant and it shows . . . it's okay to get dismissive, at least it shows that you're not permanently daft.
I've seen incredibly ignorant Modenine fans, but you are on a whole new level.

I gave you homework on Drake, ask your daddy to help you out if you're not smart enough to google a song. . . ode lomo latile.

blacksta:
Have you not been listening to cameron  - No party has claimed or will support an outright ban on migration - but a cap is so needed-  Cameron acknowledges that migrant workers are so important for the UK economy.  What the about the Con policy on No tax on one's first 10k earnings

Did you see the Lib Dem policy on immigration??
Getting immigrant to the Sunderlands and Hulls will help to halt congestion in the big cities and in a small way help to educate the other places on the importance of immigrant workers.
Besides, then it will help to even create jobs outside London and stop the fear of a population explosion in London.

kadman:
Which planet did you get this illusion from ?

I wondering too . . .lol