₦airaland Forum

allen113:
Some people are really funny, I'm not a fan of wike but I can bet he would have still attained the level he is at the moment because he paid his dues with service. He fought for every Governor before him and they in return bless him by either appointment or recommendation so you see respect the man.

I'm a big fan of Amaechi but he(Amaechi) was in Ghana when wike was going to Abuja fighting for his mandate, in return he was rewarded.

He fought to deliver Rivers state for Goodluck Jonathan and in return was rewarded as a governor, now he fought to deliver Rivers state for Tinubu and he has been rewarded so give the man his respect he has really worked hard to get to where he is today.

What battles has Sim fought to be a governor? Can Sim single handedly deliver one LGA for his party? Omoh make we see as all this things go finally play out sha




Odili did not make wike an Lga chairman that's a fat lie, secondly you said Sim was taking the fall for Wike that's another fat lie, it was Wike that was actually shielding Sim from arrest. Who saw Sim when Efcc declared him wanted? Wike was using his powers as governor to hide the nigga. even during campaign it was Wike that was doing everything.

Anyway let's just watch and see how everything plays out.

Why did Wike hide Fubara in the government house?

Why did Wike take interest in a civil servant at level 14? What was he looking for, of all the people? What was he doing when he was protecting Fubara, the then accountant general of the state? What was Wike covering when he kept Fubara in the state house, away from the EFCC, who were looking for him? What has happened to the 483 billion state funds, which is the matter that Fubara was sought for and someone hid him until he became the governor?

If Fubara was arrested by the EFCC, where would Wike be today.

How many of those who worked for Wike to become the governor, remain his friends? Wike was the chief of staff to Amaechi. How did he become enemies with Amaechi.

Nigerians must be wary of these kind of politicians.

walex2:
Your explanation were well thought of but your submission is still wrong.

You can't build an illegality with illegality, read the part c of the same act you quoted. The constitution still gives a caveat, that the lawmakers could still employed to defend themselves, the caveat was '' if there is a division in the political party that sponsored them '' they could still claim there was division. So the reason we said the court must give a pronouncement that is how the law operates.


See if anyone killed a person today the person will still be presumed innocent until the court convicted him, despite the fact that we all knew that murder case attracts Capital punishment

Now the question is this:

Was there any division in Rivers state at the time? Is there any division in Rivers PDP as of now? The answer is a capital NO. It was politics. Why did Wike not defect with them? The answer simply is that Wike plays the destroyer inside PDP, while regretting not handing over Rivers to APC straight away at the governorship election.

If there is any illegality, it is the 25 currently, who should get the title honorable out of their names, going by the constitution.

ddippset:
Okay thanks for your detailed explanation.

I really hope there is no lacuna in this case.

Cus I want them all to have their seats declared vacant.

But don't you think only a documentary evidence like a resignation letter and a membership card could be admissible as evidence in court?

I hope they have enough evidence to boot these guys out!

Please look this:

https://businessday.ng/politics/article/no-remedy-for-defected-25-rivers-lawmakers-pdp/?amp

ddippset:
Two Questions;;;

1. Why can't they return to PDP?

2. Besides their word of mouth, is there any other evidence that they are now members of APC?
Do they have APC cards?
Why if they aren't members yet but are only saying it?
Can it be proved in court that they are now members of APC?

Thanks for your questions.

1. Do you remember a certain Edison Ehie? Presently he is Fubara’s chief of staff. He was the speaker when the 27 defected to APC. He wrote the notification to INEC declaring the seats of the 27 vacant. INEC acknowledged that document but did not act on it yet. PDP agreed absolutely that having defected to APC, the 27 were no longer their members. For the pendency of this matter, they cannot return to PDP.

2. Their defection was not just by word of mouth. They became card carrying members of APC. We saw them all rejoicing and carrying APC brooms, while declaring their membership of the party.

Lastly, evidences of their membership abound and are awash on social media spaces.

Air peace, thank you for rescuing us from the embarrassment of Hadi Sirika. At least Nigeria has an airline on the London route. Hopefully other airlines can make it too, so these foreign airlines do not keep making Nigerians suffer high costs.

Nigerians are known to be very hospitable. Politicians turned Nigerians against each other. The reception of the Prince and his wife showcased the now hidden true nature of Nigerians. Hopefully we can have better leaders who can change the minds of the citizens for greater love.

The weapon must be retrieved from him at once by the police. One cannot define his use of a gun at that point as “self defence”. He absolutely lost control of his temper, probably arising from the embarrassing fall. It definitely was not a deliberate act and did not call for the use of a gun.

And what would he have said if he shot dead any of those appealing to him to cool his temper?

RickyJesus:
"The drivers in the north are among the worst in the country…sorry to say."

This is you, stop acting idiotic.

“ a certain region has monopoly of speed”.
And these are your words.

How does the word “among the worst” equate to “a. certain”.

If English is too difficult for you to understand, you may write in your native language, if you can.

Mumu!

4godsake:
You claim that the 27 lawmakers are illegitimate but the passes a legitimate budget that the governor is legimately spending abi.

They are illegitimate but the screen all the commissioners that ur legitimate governor is working with now abi.

Pls don't be clever by half.Fubara cup will soon full.

You are not up to date!

Otamendi99:
Lol. So ifeanyi ubah that moved from YPP to APC will now have his seat vacant or de-recognise?

YPP must follow up to reclaim their seat. The seat belongs to the party and not Ifeanyi Ubah.

Again, INEC must wake up to its responsibilities. The constitution is clear on it and INEC without delay must declare the seats vacant, once they get the information from the affected party.

Well everyone and their choice!

Curious345:
Zuba to minna road was never good.. so how did you get the 180km per hours you talked about

Who says? Did you ever travel on the road when it was very smooth riding?

When did you start traveling in the road please?
Or to you the terrible state of the road fell from above?

RickyJesus:
Anybody that is well traveled won't suggest that a certain region has monopoly of speed.

That’s how you lot misinterpret issues all the time. Show me where I singled out a region for having monopoly of speed. Are you sure that you do not ave issues with understanding English?

walex2:
You are an illiterate you can't abdicate a constitutional matter, you still need to go to court and interprete. By the virtues of their defection you still need to approach the court, so until the court say otherwise they are still the legal representative of their people. If we all begin to interprete the law for ourselves we will all be encloud with anarchy

Don’t be cheeky.

Where is the illiteracy, with such clearly written words? Do illiterates write in the own native languages, how much more English language?

Take your time to read the constitutional provisions and cease to follow the crowd. The constitution is clear about it and it has been tested in the courts, as far as the Supreme Court, way back in 2015.

Read the 1999 constitution @ chapter-5-part-2-section-109-tenure-of-seat-of-members, to clear your misinformation.

Now if (dis)honorable members choose to apply some braggado, by defecting to other parties, without expecting to pay the price, then it behoves on the citizens to insist on the right thing. It is inappropriate for citizens to look at certain irresponsible behaviors of our leaders and applaud them.

They are the law makers. They are supposed to know the constitution more than us. They break the laws they make at will and make themselves look like the victims. They know that it is a constitutional matter. They chose to abandon the party upon whose platform they contested the election. Without the party, they would never contest, as the party is the vehicle. The votes we cast belong to the party. Since they have abandoned the party, the owners of the votes (in this instance the party), must have their votes back.

They wrongly timed their defections and must bear the consequences. Wike who sponsored them remains in the same PDP shamelessly and thinks that he can influence the courts to misinterpret the constitution in their favour. Fa fa fa fa fa fawol.

While not stopping the now former legislators from exercising their fundamental rights to seek redress in the court, we must not continue to support illegalities on the part of our leaders.

This should serve as a lesson to other legislators across all parties, who only think of their pockets and not the citizens, who they are elected to serve.

That’s the way it is.

Ok

That should be the position.

I suspect that when the so called political solution was found after meeting Tinubu, Mr. Wike breeched the terms of the agreement somehow, by his overbearing attitude. The governor accepted the terms hook, line and sinker and started implementing them. The illegitimate 27 members of the house started causing problems for the governor. They passed bills without his accent. They threatened him with impeachment once again and Fubara felt the chains on his hands were no longer bearable.

Fubara reunited Wike’s sworn enemies and made friends with them. Do not be surprised that he made very solid relationship with Rotimi Amaechi, while that one his behind the curtain. Now Fubara’s feet are solid in the ground.

Tinubu has the economy and insecurity to deal with first. He appears to be losing his grip and must concentrate. Wike’s battle with Fubara is a distraction. Again, this is politics. Interest is at play and not friendship. If it threatens his government, then Tinubu can make another move.

Wike must know that the state party leader is the governor. Fubara initially did not threaten his so called structure. Wike’s greed exposed all. After his tenure as the governor of Lagos, Tinubu maintained and shared his structure with other powerful personalities in Lagos. Mutual respect between them enabled them control Lagos up till now.

Wike must learn to respect the governor and others.

RickyJesus:
Very stupid comment.

So says someone who has never traveled outside his one room apartment.

DonroxyII:
Same thing happened to me From Abuja to Taraba ... I boarded at Mararaba ... Gisos ...

The Driver was Speeding at 170 ... He would soft pedaled at 120 & raise to 170 again . We could be on 170 for like 5mins before he would go to 120 & still raise to 170 again ...

The tyres were so soft on the road I knew just the tip of the Tyres were on the road the rest were on the air ...

I was sitting beside him at the front ... I was just remembering all my family at home cuz I knew any slight error... That Hummer Bus & Every Occupant is Dead ....

The driver doesn't even care for Portholes... he can maneuvers the road like the back of his hands ...

Na God that day ... Hausa Drivers are too Giran in the Mind ... Life & Death na Same thing to dem as dem no care ... Chaiiii !

Thank God that day sha ...

Hmm

Donald7610:
Supreme, Appeal court to decide not Rivers state's court

Fubara na initial gragra

That is the truth

Until it gets to Supreme Court, no more sitting for the illegitimate 27.

And by the way, that must be the beginning for legislators who win on the platform of some parties and then decamp.

Where is the midnight injunction?
So Wike’s trying to tell Nigerians that the constitution is a midnight constitution? He surely must be pulling the wool on the eyes of his gullible followers.

Anyway, let’s quickly supplied Wike with 10 bottles of BITTER OBI herbal mixture. He surely is suffering from serious BATeria.

udemzyudex:
You have short term memory.

Short term memory? With your long term memory, how did it go?

So sad.

The drivers in the north are among the worst in the country…sorry to say. The speed is always excessive. In those days, traveling from Zuba for example to Minna, the drivers would keep the speed @180.
The same on the way to Kaduna, Kano, Maiduguri.

I wish them speedy recovery and may they be comforted.

Let Secondus go and sit down. Wike did not bring misery when he forced Secondus on PDP as the national chairman. He paid Secondus back for supporting his aspiration to be the governor. Having brushed Secondus aside because of his Presidential ambition, Secondus became aggrieved.

Politics is about power and ambition. It is the survival of the fittest. We know Wike has issues, but Secondus should please close his mouth.

Na boxers e wear so abi na gele e wrap for waist?

When taxation is too much you create poverty. This issue of taxation must be examined and adjustments must be made. There is no way that you can tax manufacturers and importers of finished goods, without expecting the multiplier effects on the prices of goods and services.

Government must face the real issues with the nation, which are insecurity and hunger. We have advocated that insecurity must be tackled with the full force that it requires, irrespective of the area, tribe or religion. Nigerians live where they find live meaningful for themselves. That’s why you find everyone, everywhere. If the citizens cannot go to their farms, how can we achieve food sufficiency? If the farms and highways are unsafe, how can food be grown and transported to the markets? Insecurity must be the first to tackle seriously. The next should be farmers getting to business in the farms, with government providing grains and finance. No great nation has achieved its status without first dealing with food. You cannot be talking of 15 trillion on a single road, without ensuring that there’s food on the table for citizens. When there’s food, they do not care how you go about building roads.

Someone needs to tell Tinubu and his team to take governance serious. While he was campaigning, he said that the Presidency was not a 100 meters dash. Now he sees that it is even beyond that 100 meters dash, with all that he has to attend to daily. He must wake up to his responsibility, to ensure that everything gets better and life is worth living for every Nigerian.

What you sow is what you reap, as they say.

I remember clearly that Rotimi Amaechi once said that it was difficult for him to go to Rivers state. The reason was Nyesom Wike. On at least one occasion, their convoys met in Port harcourt and there was exchange of gunfire between the security aides. Wike made life very hard for his predecessor and former boss. What goes around, comes around as they say.

No one knows the source of Wike’s humongous and unquestionable wealth. While Fubara was the accountant general, he was haunted by EFCC for brazen looting of over 400 billion. Wike his him in the government house and made him the next governor. Secrets are shared between them, just like it happened with Amaechi. One cannot doubt that Fubara holds Wike by the “blokkos”, as it is termed.

The legislators with false confidence suffer the most. Obaseki made an example of them in Edo state, of what the governor can do to legislators. He shut down the house and ran his government. Wike must thread softly with his “structure” in Rivers state.

Again, if not for financial gains, how is it that one man single handedly funded the election of the entire political office holders in Rivers state? He openly boasted about it and no one in the anti corruption office queried him about it. The other person in the House of Representatives who attempted to contest with his personal resources, was harassed and detained. They ensures that he did not get out until the primaries were over.

In all, the citizens are very weak. Until the citizens begin to demand accountability from leaders, they should expect greedy and irresponsible people to continue controlling their lives and serving them pittances to survive.

So no payment for “ghost workers”. Also no extra for the local government chairmen to collect.

Anyway, the local government chairmen all have issues with Fubara. If Fubara refuses to release funds, then feeding will become very difficult for them. Wike cannot share his resources with them all.

What’s actually going on? Without the dollar story, can the nation not move forward? If BAT does not have solutions, then he can seek advice from those who know far more than him. I can give him just one name, if he does not mind.

Thank God that he survived.

Their massive looting and underdevelopment of the health sector stared him in the face. He should not complain, as hospitals need money to run them. Doctors need to get paid and drugs must be purchased. Now Doctors do not get the right salaries, neither the nurses nor drugs purchased. His mates, rather than fix hospitals embark abroad to treat themselves.

This man shamelessly exposed himself as regards his the finances aides. In such an emergency, the conscious around usually tackle the matters. If all that went with him to the hospital could not muster the deposit of 80k, it shows they are either heavily underpaid or angry at him. If he did not wake up from his unconscious state to pay, that would have been his end with his staff unable to offset the deposit of 80K.

BadBradley:
you're still confusing court judgment (precedents) with an interim order given my a High Court which can be set aside by the a Higher Court while the substantive motion is on going.

I am not confused in anyway. I am just examining the angles with you.

- PDP is in court over the matter
- The court pronouncement making Ehie the speaker was not set aside
- The Supreme Court made a pronouncement over the matter. An example was set in 2015 in Ondo state
- Fubara has recognized the new speaker and works with him.
- Amaewhule and his group intend to impeach Fubara.

Now if the substantive motion gets going, with the weight of the above legal and political issues, how can the illegitimate 27 seat anymore?