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EasternLeopard: You left answering my question on Midwesterners and CBN BeninWhich MB? like Kogi state. currently Kogi state Vs Anambra ----- battle of oil field |
EasternLeopard: You can help TORKAKA answer the question I asked him aboveMidwest was not part of biafra., the conditions to retrieve your money back was clearly spelt out, but could not be met by the biafrans. That’s what I did, and the case of the money they said was not given back to them, you know during the war all the pounds were looted, they printed Biafran currency notes, which they circulated, at the close of the war some people wanted their Biafran notes to be exchanged for them. Of course I couldn’t do that, if I did that the whole country would be bankrupt. We didn’t know about Biafran notes and we didn’t know on what basis they have printed them, so we refused the Biafran note, but I laid down the principle that all those who had savings in the banks on the eve of the declaration of the Biafran war or Biafra, will get their money back if they could satisfy us that they had the savings there, or the money there. Unfortunately, all the banks’s books had been burnt, and many of the people who had savings there didn’t have their saving books or their last statement of account, so a panel had to be set up. |
torkaka: And they still have not learnt a thing! With their unfertile lands, they are still beating war drums!!I wonder, ibos case in the event of war is worse off in 2014, than it was in 1967. You dont go to a war, simply because you are aggrieved, you sit down and do a thorough SWOT analysis , having it in mind it is a win or lose all situation |
Lessons for you not to go to war, be ready for the repercussion. More than 3 million lives in multiple folds could have been lost, if Awolowo had not devised a means to end the war abruptly. STARVATION POLICY |
HappyJoe: Let's forget about the "twenty pounds" for a moment. After every major war there should be DDR - Disarmament, Demobilization & Rehabilitation. After the Second World War, Germans were beneficiaries of the "Marshal Plan" - even though Germany was the major antagonist. In other words, the US gave the average German A LOT more than twenty pounds.You cant revise history, Awolowo should be praised by most of you. During the war I saw to it that the revenue which was due to the Iboland- South Eastern states they call it, at that time..east central state, I kept it, I saved the money for them. And when they ….was librated I handed over the money to them- millions. If I’d decided to do so, I could have kept the money away from them and then when they took over I saw to it that subvention was given to them at the rate of 990,000 pounds every month. I didn’t go to the executive council to ask for support, or for approval because I knew if I went to the executive council at that time the subvention would not be approved because there were more enemies in the executive council for the Ibos than friends. And since I wasn’t going to take a percentage from what I was going to give them, and I knew I was doing what was right, I wanted the state to survive, I kept on giving the subvention - 990,000 almost a million, every month, and I did that for other states of course- South eastern state, North central state, Kwara and so on. |
SamIkenna: Same defense all the time. At least you're not being rude about it so I will reciprocate a bit. Ask yourself, what's the value of 20 pounds both then and now? Where was the war fought? in Biafra or Nigeria? If you say claims could not be verified what did Nigerian Govt do to at least verify or pretend to verify? The documents in Nigeria banks did they go up in flames with the war? Did Nigerian govt order the banks to verify names of Igbos who claimed they had money in the said banks using their names and photos? Or was the policy a flat policy/punishment irrespective of the validity of claims? Tell me exactly what they did to verify even a single claim. Parroting that most Igbos had taken their money in their flight to Biafra does not mean everyone did, so what the did govt do to verify one single claim. That line of argument is unreservedly shallow at best. The point is this: It happened it happened, and I accept that. But its insulting to our sensibilities when you come back 44 years to defend evil and think it does not have the possibility of creating monsters out of the victims. Nations apologize and make atonement for past ills but you defend and justify this evil by saying nothing could be better than 20 pounds. Well, looking at the peace and pieces of Nigeria today, are you amazed how things turned out the way it did? Tell me now, do you have the 'One Nigeria' you coined because of the war? After these years are we not back to square one killing and threatening each other? So, how do you like the policy now?Can you verify with no records. Records were lost, nothing to verify claims, dont get unduely emotional over the painful truth. Awolowo's words TWENTY POUNDS POLICY That’s what I did, and the case of the money they said was not given back to them, you know during the war all the pounds were looted, they printed Biafran currency notes, which they circulated, at the close of the war some people wanted their Biafran notes to be exchanged for them. Of course I couldn’t do that, if I did that the whole country would be bankrupt. We didn’t know about Biafran notes and we didn’t know on what basis they have printed them, so we refused the Biafran note, but I laid down the principle that all those who had savings in the banks on the eve of the declaration of the Biafran war or Biafra, will get their money back if they could satisfy us that they had the savings there, or the money there. Unfortunately, all the banks’s books had been burnt, and many of the people who had savings there didn’t have their saving books or their last statement of account, so a panel had to be set up. |
SamIkenna: You wrote the emboldened and yet you wonder why our relationship is tenuous. I 've stopped x-raying why supposedly intelligent and normal people support evil. The support for that policy was, is, and will eternally be evil. If the architects of that policy wanted a people to rob only, then fine. But to rob a people you starved to death, destroyed the land, and are still to be included as citizens and patriots in their dream all inclusive one Nigeria, then I say they lost their dam** minds. Tell me what Nigeria would have lost if they avoided that 20 pounds and abandoned property policy? Tell me now, how has the one Nigeria paid off given the policy in question? Perhaps it was good policy for some folks back then but as action and reaction set in, it turns out that the policy only succeeded in creating a bulk of people with burning rage against their country. There's absolutely no Easterner who believes Nigeria is capable of delivering justice and if you think its only an Igbo thing then go ask Gov Akpabio. War is war and robbery is robbery. When you rob those you defeated, common sense dictates you, at the very least, don't intend or pretend to live with them in the same enclave - you take your loot and off you go. So you see, when you support 20 pounds policy and I see you praise the same Lord with me on Sundays or claim you're fighting an unjust fuel subsidy removal or that you sincerely feel the pains of the Boko Haram devastation, I cringe.What was the saner option to the 20 pounds policy? Is it to open the central bank vaults, and dole out cash to every ibo people who claims to have money in the banks ? , claims that can not be substantiated . Records were lost in the war. Awolowo fought and ensured everyone gets at least 20pounds rather than nothing, which some other stakeholders wanted. |
torkaka: The intelligence of some of you lot really needs to be put to question!! |
Descartes: I impose the question in logical and philosophical view devoid of sentiment,No, your intended manipulation has failed, your logic /philosophy value is null. |
Descartes: I think your party affliation has beclouded youWhat he meant is that , the incumbent has failed so much, that the opposition has a very great chance (hope) of taking over , since the masses are now yearning for a change in leadership. ![]() Read the Headline again anyway. |
Shine1177: n1. Atiku on PDM platform is dead on arrival. How will he sell himself on a relatively unknown platform less than 3 months to election. He does not have a clout following like Buhari, neither does his PDM has any structure on ground. 2. APC is a media party ? Maybe what SS / SE folks will say. 3. Aliyu can not save jona, even if he goes 2 d senate, jona lost heavily there the last, turaki or lamido? you meant lamido i guess, Lamido's sons case has not stopped lamido sule 4m criticising jona. Dont completely trust those Northern PDP elements not to turn their back against GEJ at the dine minute. 4. Make no mistake those 3 governors will stem the tide of total control like in 2011, 98% in the SE, and 97% in the SS, but more importantly, they will hamper voters mobilisation of PDP and even cause reduce voters turnout. 5. Forget Abacha's son, even an incumbent governor, shekarau who contested could not win in Kano presidential polls. Kwankwanso won on PDP ticket, Jonathan on PDP ticket could not get 25% in kano. Most of your analysis for other states will be less consequential at the presidential elections 6. Dont be too excited abt the ekiti scenario, it is the least populated SW state, and with the least no. of voters, APC will win in Osun next week. The ekiti loss has very little to do with tinubu godfatherism. Jonathan can not get 40 % of the SW votes in 2015 |
semitunde: Its funny how you guys pull facts from different directions and marsh them.together...My brother, please leave them with their deluded sense and revised history. nowadays, i feel pity for them. |
EasternLeopard: I hope you remember the parts of Nigeria that were at the fore-front of protest against fuel subsidy removal and the parts of Nigeria that kept quiet.They kept quiet as usual, the other usually at the forefront of fighting against injustice and oppression did not disappoint. Many of your people got stranded, they could not even afford the transport money back to the same "yoloband" their land of greener pasture. |
Ordinary fuel subsidy removal induced price hike in fuel, lots of Ibos got stranded in their town. They have spent all the cash ![]() |
Dibiachukwu: Bros, you know you will just be annoying this man. He is likely proud of his race; just like you are proud of yours. Replace all that with Igbo and see, if you will be happy.I am used to seeing such from them, i am not moved. |
EasternLeopard: OkWith a stiffled mind , i doubt i can achieve that. Emotions is winning over reasoning . |
pazienza: Igboland is big enough to contain all Igbos,with spaces remaining.The way you are throwing around the word "most" is not beneficial to your people. .Reality check will tell you "most" is a wrong word to use. Please change the most to "some" or "few" Are you ready for 100% increase in population in a matter of weeks and months? |
chukwudi44: He never got up to 25% in those states in 2011,go and check the results again.About 25% in 24 states he can easily get it from the south and middle belt.Jonathan had at least 25% in 32 states + fct if i can recall except in 4 northern states. Kano (21%) and Katsina, Borno and yobe. |
Ahuitzotl: [color=#1980BC] [b]Little Japan created an empire off China,Vietnam,korea,phillipines,all of south east asia only to be halted by the americans in midway how much less a tech savvy population far bigger than japan with a land mass far bigger than economic super power Singapore.In the event of war,the yorobars will become enslaved,subjugated and subsequently annexed by their overlords in the north who will desire control of the excellent port and coastal facilities to run their economy and in order to stave off guerilla assistance to the yorobars hence isolating them,mutual detente will be signed with the igbos with a view to not only curry their goodwill nor upset the applecart as it concerns their economic enhancing ventures but enlist their economic building prowess for a stronger northern economy in northern held territories of Lagos,Ibadam,Illorin,Kano,Kaduna even Maiduguri.The yorobar situation will not be improved as religious affiliation and in fighting will tip the moslems with northern assistance against the christians with the latter fleeing the menace of the northern jihadists into refugee settlement camps of Cotonou,Portonovo,Alauda down to Lome.Unfortunately this brain drain will further exacerbate the situation as there will be no intellectual nor technological platform to resist the Jihad occupation of the Southwest.And so the map of Nigeria will be redrawn with Arewa republic taking Southwest,the kogi and kwara part of the middle belt whilst Benue is left to align with the SS/SE.[/b] [/color]The usual nonsense talk. Do a reality check. |
EasternLeopard: TrashCall it trash, as much as you like. Igbo's population is within the neighbourhood of 30 million , i dont need an ethnicity census to determine that, there are sensible ways to get realistic projections |
chukwudi44: Shine1177: ...Yes, he got 25% in most of these states in 2011, when many with PDP governors were seeking for 2nd term. The political climate has changed. In fact the SS & SE jonathan support of 2011 will dwindle, at least marginally. He needs at least 25% in 24 states and fct, do not forget that. |
War mongers here again, Majority are the usual suspects, the igbos. ![]() Someone on this thread, even said yorubas are the only ones who can break away peacefully, i must say there can be no peaceful unilateral breakway, but an unanimous one. Igbos banking on war have lost the war before it started, roughly 15 million out of the 30 million igbos in nigeria are not on ibo land., in the event of war, they will be displaced, their means of livelihood sacked, investments will be lost, the human population in ibo land will be increased by 100% in a matter of months, housing needs becomes a problem, scarcity of money, food, available infrastructures overstretched, competition will be stiffer, Only then will you realise the mess you have created for yourself. In other regions, the net migration will lead to drop in population for a region like SW, or a marginal increase in population for some other regions. Oyo state is just the size of all 5 SE states, imagine over 30million people crammed in to it, with half of them more or less displaced citizens. Ibos should please keep quiet about war,their standing pre 1967 war is worse off now, they shot themselves in the foot, when they believed so much in one Nigeria than the other regions, migrating outside their region within the country and investing in it . |
Shine1177: ...1. Two major contenders in the person of Buhari and Atiku is a very remote possibility, and one in APC, and the other will be in what known platform? if Atiku, who i think is the weakest of the two moves to any other platform, he will be ineffectual. 2. Trust me the opposition is currently strong enough to uproot the PDP at the centre. 3. Do not foreclose the possibility of PDP primaries still leading to more division for PDP, remember there were 7 break away PDP gvernors, Jigawa and Niger state decided to stay back, it might be temporary. 4. i have told you PDP will win convincingly in those APC states, but they will be the worst performing states of the 11 SS/SE states. Guess, which state was the worst performing for GEJ in 2011 of the 11 SS/SE states? Edo state, the then only ACN state in all the SS/SE states. 5. Kano, Katsina, Sokoto, Zamfara, Jigawa, Niger, Kebbi, Borno, Yobe, Kwara, Bauchi, Gombe. 6. GEJ in 2011 with all the goodwill he had struggled in SW with only 58 % of SW votes, then there were also 2 incumbent PDP sw governors, and one proxy PDP in Ondo state. He has lost goodwill in the SW, the opposition now needs to present a VP candidate from the SW. Take note, my observation is as conservative as possible |
I think the outgoing IGP, Abubakar, will be remembered for reducing to appreciable level extortion by policemen on the nations highway via roadblock. That to me is the highpoint of his tenure as IGP. |
Crush the terror war first !, that should be the pre requisite for the reconstruction plan. What is the point of building in months and years, what will be blown away in seconds and minutes ? |
Obiagelli: i don't even know if it will be better for her to start or finish the relay.Last but one (3rd) is the best. |
Pure gimmick. Where in this article shows Ribadu's word or declaration? Ribadu is in APC. |
How can someone be a student of election for 42 years , and come up with this analsyis. I assume he has o year of experience in Nigeria's election. 2015 elections will be sharply divided along religious and ethnic lines in most cases. It is 6 months + to election, but one thing that i am sure of is that there can ne no landslide win for any one who will eventually win. Barring any unforeseen circumstances, GEJ will lose in a free and fair elections. My reasons (1)There would be only 1 strong northern candidate in 2015, unlike 2011 where we had 3 strong northern candidates (buhari, shekarau, ribadu) (2) There is a stronger platform for national opposition through the APC, which still controls at least 14 states compared with 2011 (3) Virtually, all the northern PDP governors are not seeking re-election, and some might still cause rancour in PDP primaries and even defect e.g jigawa state. (4) GEJ will win with landslide in Rivers, Imo and edo, but the volume of votes will decrease considerably compared with 2011 election. (5) GEJ will most likely fail to get 25% of votes in like 12 of the 19 northern states, (6) GEJ will struggle in the SW, he will be so lucky, if he gets 40% of the SW votes versus 58% of SW votes he got in 2011. Where is the landslide coming from? |
These are the new set of PDP thugs some people are clamoring for in the SW . He is not a governor, he is acting like this , what will he do if he becomes a governor? ![]() |
I thought there was a referendum, and it was the wish of the people, at least those who came out to vote. The new council creation is now a law ,and not a proclamation, Fayose can not come in and disband it,except if he wants to be impeached. In my personal opinion, i don't think there are needs for more local councils in an homogeneous state like ekiti state, but who am i to know more than the people of ekiti who spoke with their votes in the referendum. Lagos state in 2004 or thereabouts also created 37 additional councils, and i feel it was beneficial in that case. |
0rlando0woh: Do not bring other tribes into your bull shît, talk about Yorubas specifically, yes Yorubas are not just filthy but also irredemable hypocrites!Keep shut !, and stop whining. I wont play politics with the lives of people killed no matter the tribe, i will rather implore you to stop making statements that can lead to death of more . History has a way of repeating itself. |
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like Kogi state. currently Kogi state Vs Anambra ----- battle of oil field

