₦airaland Forum

lonelydude:
Personally as a Guy, I would advise a guy without a job to avoid any intimate relationship. The truth of the matter is no matter how meagre the money a job is bringing in, he is far better off than a jobless guy in the sight of reasonable ladies.

A lady has to be proud to tell her parents that her fiance is working. If the parents are also reasonable, that sense of respect will be there for two reasons: firstly, the guy is not lazy and secondly, that he's definitely going to be upgrading later on in the marriage.

and for a direct answer to the ladies in questions, I think everyone has got a right to choose whatever they like but as someone likely put it; a woman's options decreases with her age.

But I'll advise the one still searching to be more conscious about their attitude and smile more than before.
If you appear frustrated and desperate to guys, you will only make matters worse because they will run away.

Most of all, trust God.

+100

No woman at this age is ready to die with a poor guy .

Even the rich is finding it difficult to satisfy their women's want these days.

Because for a woman, "the coast is always greener at the other side".

BetaThings:
Can somebody please explain this to me?
Majority of people who attend schools are very young and their minds can be easily moulded
They spend several years in school and they have to obey their teachers/school authorities
There are very many christian schools and muslims attend them
students typically say sir/ma to teachers/principals

The predominant group using banks are adults. They are not afraid of the bank staff/managers
Indeed, it is likely that the bank staff will address customers by saying sir/ma
Furthermore the choice available to a bank customer is wide compared to a student

Which of the two groups is likely to be unduly influenced? the students of course

Am I to believe then that the christian schools are being used to christianise the country
Because if that condition is not satisfied then it the argument that islamic banking can islamise Nigeria is baseless

Sorry you don't make sense at all.

Why comparing schools to banks.

Their are:

military schools

Seminary schools

Islamic schools

Mission Schools

Foreign schools

Single-sex schools.

Those schools operate that way, because education sector has different ways of achieving it's means.

But the banking sector different, because it all about investment, monetary and financial management.

So it will be wrong to bring in any policy/s that will segregate  any member  of the Nigerian public.

doctorbabs:
I dont know why the christians leaders are being myopic and misinformed about the whole issue regarding islamic banking, it shows that they lack knowledge even about what they are pepreaching. Bible against anything INTEREST OR USURY ON money LEVITCUS : 25 VS 36 - 37 ALSO DETERONOMY 23 SAID THE SAME THING. I PITY SHEEPS THAT ARE FOLLOWING THEM , THEY SHOULD SEEK FOR KNOWLEDGE

Does you bible support ISLAMIC BANKING?

The banking law allows Non-interest banking and not Islamic banking.

Why is Sanusi insisting on Islamic Banking.

We decided to live with as minimal contact with each other as we could manage. Because she often refused to open her door, we developed the art of communication by notes pushed under the door

That woman na confirm trouble maker,

Nobody dares try such in my house, I will break down that door.

Let her go and get her own property.

No be her fault, na maga of a husband wey she marry co am.

ebere1712:
Given the reputation of the Nigerian justice system, there is a 50/50 probability that she is innocent.
Sorry to bust your bubble, the apex court should have checked the evidence provided by the prosecutors, and the announcement should be like; there is enough evidence to prove that she is guilty, or their is no evidence of a mistrial. And it should never be up to her to prove that she is not guilty, it should be the other way around.

Were did you learn your law from.

It is her job to prove she is not guilty, and not the Apex Court.

That is why she has a lawyer.

Islamic banking:
Sanusi looking for trouble
—CAN president
By BEIFOH OSEWELE



T he latest of the controversies in Nigeria is the Islamic Banking being touted by the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) governor, Sanusi Lamido Sanusi. In reaction, the Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN) has put its feet on the ground that it won’t work. The body suspects and says there is more to the agenda than meets the eye, and is clearly opposed.

The CAN President, Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor, in this explosive interview, outlines the argument of the group he leads and why it would never accept Islamic banking as championed by Sanusi.

He also faults Sanusi as lying to the nation in his comment that he had made efforts to reach the Christians on the matter without success.
This is a must-read for his contentions and how Sanusi has been running the CBN as a sectional and religious body in defiance of the law and the constitution.
But in conclusion, Oritsejafor says these problems coming up from all corners now, from security to other matters, are like intentional traps and hurdles put in the way of the president by people who would not want him to succeed.

You have been very critical of the proposed Islamic banking. What is your understanding of it and what is your problem with Central Bank of Nigeria governor, Mallam Sanusi Lamido Sanusi?
First, I want to begin by saying, I like Sanusi.  In my opinion, he is one of the people you can look at in this country and say, this is a man that has what it takes to articulate what he believes; whether it’s right or wrong, good or bad.  So, for that, I admire him.
We are not against Muslims.  Muslims are our brothers and sisters.  Nigeria is a nation that has both Muslims and Christians.  It doesn’t matter what we say, Muslims will always be here.  It doesn’t matter what Muslims think, Christians will always be here.  We might as well accept each other and be happy, because that’s the reality.  So, we appreciate them and wish them well.

The problem is this; what does the original CBN Act say about non-interest banking?  The original thing does not specify Islamic banking.  I don’t know why the CBN governor is kind of twisting things in a way to confuse Nigerians. The original provision is just non-interest banking.

Islamic banking is just one kind among many other kinds of non-interest banking.  So, why would CBN, an organization, an institution that represents the Federal Government, that is an institution that represents all Nigerians zero in on only on one kind of non-interest banking. This is the problem with Sanusi and his idea.
In education, there is only one set of guideline for those who want to establish schools.

The Ministry of Education or any other institution charged with the responsibility in Nigeria will not come out with Islamic guideline, Christian guideline, or native doctor guideline.  It’s only one basic, level playing field guideline for education.  You want to start a school, you take the guideline, vis-à-vis your belief, to go and start.  We have Islamic universities in Nigeria.  We have Christian universities.  Do they have different guidelines?  They all have the same guidelines.  This is what we are saying.

Now, the guidelines for non-interest banking has been changed two or three times.

[b]Why is Sanusi changing it?  
Because he is discovering his mistake.  But he doesn’t want to own up to it. What he is doing is that he twists it a little bit here, twists it a little bit there.  Now, the latest guideline came out on June 21.  If you study it, it says, Islamic banking, number one.  Then number two-other non-interest banking.  That to us is discriminating – discriminating against non-Muslims.

Why would you put Islamic banking on one side, all other non-interest banking on one side?  
What makes Islamic banking special or more special?  
What makes it different from other non-interest banking forms?  So, these are the issues.
Also, if you keep looking closer, you discover that even the Islamic banking itself … Now before I come to that, they have a conference going on now in Abuja (the conference opened on Monday); why should he organize an Islamic banking conference?  Why not have a non-interest banking conference?  This is what we are saying.
CBN has no business promoting a special, specific, religious kind of banking.  CBN should be promoting non-interest banking.  And everyone who is interested in non-interest banking should be invited to a non-interest banking seminar or conference.
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 So, are you seeing the problem we are looking at here?
Now, a lot of money has been spent promoting Islamic banking. Why?  It’s wrong.  It’s unfair to spend all that money-government’s money-on a sectional kind of banking.  It is those who want to start Islamic bank that have the responsibility to spend that kind of money and do whatever they want to do to promote their bank.  Why should you, as Central Bank Governor of Nigeria, be promoting that sectional banking?  Is he telling us that when Christians start theirs, he’d go through all these?  I have been told by a reliable source that he has employed a lot of people specifically to run and promote Islamic banking.  How do you do that with state money? You have no right to that.

Now, let us look at Islamic banking itself…he has told us there will be no discrimination. Okay?  He has also told us that Islamic banking is governed by Shariah principles, which means if I am in piggery farming, and I go to Islamic bank and say I need a loan, would they give me?  The answer is no.  So, how can you say that they are not discriminatory?  They’re discriminating.  It’s obvious.

So, since it’s like that, CBN has no business promoting it. It a private venture and should be treated so.  Those interested in it can promote it for themselves because it’s obvious that it’s a sectional thing.  So, we don’t quarrel with Muslims who want Islamic bank.  Go ahead, have Islamic bank, but not at the expense of Nigeria.  So, CBN has no business getting into it.

Now a lot of people have said that even this so-called Islamic bank can be used for terrorism, for money laundering and to bring in money for terrorists. Sanusi has told us it’s not possible.  But I was reading a newspaper on Monday where he revealed that in 1990 or 1999, there were two banks, according to him, that applied for Islamic banking licence and one of them was Al-Qaeda.  They applied for licence at that time.  And, according to him, they were turned down.  What stops Al Qaeda from applying now through other sources, like getting Nigerians who sympathise with them to make sure they meet all the guidelines?  They would start it, but it will be owned by terrorists.

Okay, even if it’s not owned by terrorists, if those who start it are sympathizers with terrorists, what happens?  So, there are lots of implications.
Again, as I said I don’t quarrel with Islamic banking because we have a lot of Muslims in Nigeria. But my point is, CBN and Sanusi Lamido Sanusi, have no business promoting it. That’s the issue. And there should be one guideline that covers all non-interest banking. And then let everybody go into the field and fight for spaces. Get customers for themselves. Get the thing running for themselves. CBN is not supposed to be in charge of promoting it. This is the problem, especially using state funds to promote Islamic banking.

Everyday I listen to Sanusi, it puzzles me how a man can go all the way with this kind of thing and hold on to it. And to imagine that some Nigerians, for whatever reason, are looking and applauding him.
In fact, is this the time to be promoting Islamic banking? Look at the tension in the nation. Well, I read in the newspapers that he is appealing to Muslims not to join issues with us. Why is he doing that? It’s because the thing is becoming a problem. Now, it’s raising the tension in the country.

But some people say if there’s anyone heating up the polity, it’s you, Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor.
How do you react to this accusation?

Again, you see, it always puzzles me that it is people like us that respond to the wrong things that people accuse of heating the polity? No person ever makes effort to get to the roots. The person who started the issue (Islamic banking) is the one who is really heating up the polity. Not the one who is responding to something. Now this is the problem. That was why I said sometime ago, at whose expense do we always talk about the unity of Nigeria. Is there a certain group in this country that must continue to pay the price for the unity? We just pay them, sit down and allow other people to do whatever they like? And after they’ve done it and we respond to it, they say we are the ones causing the problem, not the one that originates its. It puzzles me. The person heating the polity is Sanusi. They should direct their accusation and their problem to him.

What do they mean that I am the one heating up the polity?
That I should let Sanusi have his way?
Not exactly. They say since you have access to Mr. President, who is a fellow Niger Deltan, you should seek audience with him and resolve whatever issues you have…
(Cuts in) Listen to me; he is the president of the whole federation. He is not the president of Niger Delta.

And he’s a Christian…
But that doesn’t mean he’s a president of just the Christians. He’s president of both Muslims and Christians.

So as a Christian, what makes you think the president would sit down and watch the country being islamised as you have been insinuating?
Well, let me say this; do you really know how he feels? I don’t know, and you don’t know.

Why don’t you go to him and find out?
I don’t want to go to him because I don’t want it to look as if because he is a Christian, that is why we’re approaching him to get him to act. No, no, no. What we are doing is, making the public to know exactly what is happening; the agenda of this gentleman (Sanusi), and also to make the public know that something is wrong. I think it’s my responsibility as a leader of a group of people, who are probably more than half of the total population of this country to do so. I can’t sit down and watch this kind of thing happening. It’s wrong. Again, I repeat, what we are simply saying is; have one guideline for non-interest banking. He should stop this issue of having one set of guideline for Islamic banking and another set of guideline for other non-interest banking. If all is non-interest banking, then there should be a level playing field. We shouldn’t have one for this and one for that. That is discriminatory.

Do you really see this thing as Sanusi’s agenda or you think he’s being engineered from somehow?
Well, I don’t have proof of anybody remotely controlling him. At the same time, I don’t rule it out. But the person I see is Sanusi. Wherever he got this idea from, something is wrong. He should reconsider, and understand that he is governor of a Central Bank, not a Muslim Central Bank. It’s a Nigerian Central Bank, for all Nigerians.

I don’t know whether you’ve heard that the approval for Islamic banking was actually done by Prof. Soludo?
First of all, I don’t know why Soludo is not speaking out. He knows why. He has his reasons. He is very quiet on this. Now, the question is, did Soludo write out non-interest banking guideline just for Islamic banking? Is that what Soludo did? Or Soludo put together guideline for non-interest banking? I would be very surprised if Soludo did just guideline for Islamic banking. I suspect that that is not what Soludo did. I believe what Soludo probably did was to set out guidelines for non-interest banking, which is okay, which is exactly what we are talking about. We are talking about non-interest banking. Soludo could not have come out with only Islamic non-interest banking guideline. Not at all.

As journalists, investigate what I have said now. Go and find out very well. Or if you see Sanusi, ask him. Let him tell us the truth, or bring out the original thing that Soludo did. Let Nigerians see it. A[b]nd if Soludo drew up guidelines just for Islamic banking, we would like to question Soludo as to how he came up with that. So, it’s not for Sanusi to keep referring to him. The reason he is doing that is that he knows Soludo is a Christian. So, he has decided to use that as a very comfortable and convenient blackmail. [/b]

But even at that, does it mean a Christian cannot do something wrong?
A Christian too can be wrong. So, assuming Soludo actually did that, Soludo is wrong. Will I say because he is a Christian, say that he is right for doing that? But I am not very sure that is what Soludo did. So Sanusi should bring out the exact thing that Soludo did.

I would be shocked if Soludo would ever do that, because that man is someone with international understanding of how the economics of the world operates.  He wouldn’t have had that kind of narrow-mindedness that would make him just draw up guidelines for Islamic banking.

Sanusi also said that he invited the Christian leadership to a conference where he could have explained the intricacies of Islamic banking, but you didn’t show up
That is not true. It’s not true. Well, probably you didn’t hear him well. Or you didn’t get what he said well. The truth is (laughs) this issue of Islamic banking has been on for a long time. When did he try to contact me? He never did until last week Thursday. Last week Thursday, [b]I had a national meeting of Christian leaders in Abuja. I was already in the meeting with my key leaders when somebody called me. Sanusi didn’t talk to me.

Somebody called me and said Sanusi is asking if he could come to that meeting to explain to us what Islamic banking is?
And my reply was no. Are you getting what I am saying?
We were in a national meeting; we didn’t plan for Sanusi. We didn’t gather because of Sanusi. He got wind of the meeting and so he was trying to take advantage of it. So, we don’t know the reason he wanted to show up in that meeting. And the meeting had started already. So, for him to say he wanted to come and we rebuffed him is not correct. Let him tell the truth to the public. It’s not as if he planned the meeting. Or we agreed on a meeting and we didn’t show up.

In fact, after this meeting I am talking about, we had a press conference. There, a reporter asked me, ‘Sanusi has been telling people he consulted widely with stakeholders, did he consult with you.’  And I said, no. Sanusi never consulted with us. Sanusi was only trying to consult with us last Thursday. When this process had gone on for so long, you have changed your policy two, three times, you have done all these, now you are contacting us just last Thursday. We were already in a meeting, so we should have stopped that meeting, put aside whatever we had to discuss just so you can come. No we can’t do that. So, I sent back after consultation with my colleagues to him that it was not convenient right then. That was what I told him.[/b]

And ever since then, he hasn’t tried to reach out to or make contact with you?
Not at all.  So, I was shocked when I read what he was saying in Kano. In fact, to be honest with you, some of my colleagues said thank God we didn’t allow him come; because only God knows how he would have twisted whatever would have happened in the meeting. We were shocked when we saw in the newspapers that he tried to consult with us.

Are you disappointed?
Yes, I am highly disappointed in him that he would go to that extent. Is this a man that really wants to work with the people? I don’t think so. Now if you wanted to go to your Islamic conference to kind of get more support from them, make noise and say all kinds of things, you ought to have told them the whole story. You ought to have let them know that all this while, at least, in the last one year that you have been doing all what you have been doing, you never contacted us.

Let be honest, CBN and National Christian Centre are neighbours. We are opposite each other. This man never made any contact with us for the one year or so that he has been in this process. We are neighbours. His office is here, my office is there. Are you getting what I am saying; it was last Thursday, and because our offices are very close, he somehow knew that we had a meeting. We were already in the meeting when my phone rang. Do you understand what I am saying?

And it wasn’t Sanusi that called you?
No, it wasn’t even him that phoned. It was one of our Christian leaders who was supposed to be in that meeting but was late that called me to say Sanusi got in touch with him and he is saying whether we can admit him into our meeting. So, I brought the matter to my fellow leaders because not too long after, this very gentleman came and joined us in the meeting. So, I threw it to them.
Look, I don’t want to start talking too much, but I am disappointed in Sanusi.

But whether you’re disappointed in him or not, Sanusi has said there is no going back on Islamic banking. He said the only thing that can stop him is the court.

Are you prepared to go the whole hog?
Well, let us wait and see. I have no comment. Let us just wait and see. That is all I would want to say for now.

But the man is going ahead with it… I wish him the best. Let us wait and see. That is all I will tell you. I know that CAN as an organisation would not want to comment on that right now. But as I have said, let’s wait and see.
   
But it is only proper you spell out your course of action so that your followers can know the sentiment of CAN in this matter
Just wait and see.

You are already being accused of incitement and heating the polity…Why don’t you tell your followers once and for all what you intend to do?
Again, I have told you, go and meet Sanusi. He is the one inciting one section of the country against the other. If he didn’t go into the issue of Islamic banking, we wouldn’t be where we are now. If Sanusi was talking about non-interest banking, period, we would not be where we are now. So, I am not going to talk further. I know that he has said that we should go to court.  Let us wait and see. Can’t you wait a bit? Wait a bit. Give me a few more days and then ask me again.

One person that was visibly missing at the Islamic banking conference in Abuja was Mr. President.
Did that surprise you?  
(Sighs) Am I the president? Go and ask him.

Would you have felt let down if he had been in attendance?
I have no comment. I am not the president. Go and ask him why he wasn’t there. So, I have no comment. I am not the president. Go and ask him why he wasn’t there.

Okay, some people have said, if you feel so strongly about Islamic banking, why don’t you push for Christian banking?
We won’t do that because when you start a wrong thing, you cannot in anyway correct a wrong thing by just throwing in something in the middle. If you want to correct a wrong thing, go to the root of that wrong thing and correct it from there.

At least, they say having Christian banking would balance the ticket?
No. That is not a balance. That is a dangerous precedent. We don’t want to see that in Nigeria. Nigeria is a secular nation. Somebody said it’s a multi-religious nation. It’s a secular nation.

The UK, US and South Africa are secular nations, but have Islamic banking.
Yet the world has not come to a standstill. So why are you bent on creating a storm in a tea cup over this issue?
Alright, let me ask two questions…They have Islamic banking in the UK. Good. Number one, in the UK, do they have the council of Sharia experts that are interpreting Islamic banking in the Exchequer (Central Bank of the UK )? Let Sanusi and his people give us that answer. My number two question is how much does the Islamic banking bring into the economy of Britain? We would also want to know. What does it add to it? Look at Pakistan, look at India. They were once one country. They were divided on the same day. Pakistan operates Islamic banking, while India operates regular banking. Look at the two countries; which is doing well and which is not doing well? Do I have to tell anybody? The facts are there for all to see.

From the reports that I have, even in Saudi Arabia, which is the headquarters of all Moslems, and anything Sharia in the world, is there oil industry operated with Sharia law? The answer is no. It is operated by regular banking. If the Islamic banking is so wonderful, why is it not operated like that? It is operated with regular banks. Go and check some of these things, you would see what I mean. Go round; you will notice that the countries they are mentioning that are stable and viable countries are not so because of Islamic banking.

Now, when they took us into OIC, they told us that OIC will make Nigeria to become great and that the economy will boom. Is that what has happened now? Please, let them tell me the benefits we are getting from our membership of OIC? I will be very interested. Name them for us and let us see. There is no benefit from OIC for the growth of the nation. So, you see, there are certain things that seem nice on the surface; that you can decorate, make look nice and present to be very nice to the public. But does that make it anything? So, these are just empty things that are well decorated like the one Sanusi champions today. Let us be very honest with ourselves; is it Islamic banking that would change the economy of Nigeria? We would be deceiving ourselves. Let us look at other nations; how many nations in this world can tell you that where they are now economically because of Islamic banking? There is not one. Not one. No single nation can tell you that.

So, we have to be very careful what we are doing and where we are going. The way we are going, we would run into serious problem, if care is not taken. We don’t want a situation where Nigeria becomes a country where Muslims would do this, Christians would do that. Is this a country based on religion? Is this not a secular country? Ours is a secular nation. That is what our constitution stands for. So, what exactly are we doing to ourselves? That is why we are saying Sanusi is the one dragging us into a religious conflict because he is now bringing religion into the economy and into banking. It is a very strange development for the governor of a Central Bank of a country.
In a way, some of us are not too surprised because most of the papers he has written and most of his degrees are in Sharia. You know, this man is a cleric. He is a mallam. I don’t know; let me not make comment that would be very vexing.

Are you saying he is too partisan to be a CBN governor?
He is too sectional, in my opinion. He is too sectional. I don’t know if partisan is the word. He is just too sectional. As I said, I don’t know why anybody would want to blame us who make comments rather than the person who starts the problem. We know that a few years ago when Soludo was there, Nigerians went into a strong debate and finally, the Arabic lettering in the naira was removed. Hausa, Igbo and Yoruba were brought in. Have you looked at your naira now? Do you still have Hausa, Igbo and Yoruba? They are not there again.

The Islamic letterings are back there again.
For God’s sake, what is wrong with this man?  
Look at the naira; there’s no Igbo, Yoruba or Hausa. But if I talk, you people would say I am the one stirring up the trouble. You know the man who is doing this thing; accuse him. He is creating problem. What is happening is that some of us take notice of these things and we are crying out. We’re saying, look, watch this man. This is the man dragging Nigeria into trouble.

Boko Haram problem is there. There is situation of insecurity. The country is tensed up. And this man is adding to it at this time. He should be cautioned. Enough is enough. He should calm down and let Nigeria have peace. Sanusi should stop troubling this nation.

Religion is something that carries fire, if you allow it. And it carries cold water as well. Why bring religion into economy? With what is going on now, we are playing with fire. Real fire. This is dangerous. And we are not the one stirring this up. It is the man who is adamant; saying, ‘I would do it. Only the court can stop me.’

The Central Bank governor talking like this?
It is a wonder
America and Britain have Central Bank governors; but do you even know their names?  If you know their names, how many times do you even hear them speak?  You hardly hear their voices. But our own Central Bank governor, oh God. In fact, I don’t think politicians are as loud as him. He is one of the 37 governors in Nigeria; and he is louder than all the ones elected. The one appointed is so loud. The ones elected are not as loud as himself. He is the one causing problem for the country.

What would you want to see as a way out of the problem?
Sanusi has already suggested going to court.

So are you taking his bait?
As I said, I don’t want to comment on that yet. Give me a few days. But also, on the other hand, all Sanusi has to do is to be reasonable. To see the handwriting on the wall; that in every segment and sections of the Nigerian government, there are guidelines: guideline governing education, guideline governing telecommunication, guidelines governing different things in Nigeria. In all these sectors, we don’t have duplicated guidelines. It is usually one uniform guideline. Why highlight religion? Why don’t you just have one guideline that covers all non-interest banking? If you do that, it doesn’t stop Moslems from getting a license.

They can get their license just like any other non-interest banking. And you don’t have to invest money into it. Let them get their license. Let them use their own money to promote Islamic banking; to get Nigerians interested in Islamic banking. Why must it be the Central Bank governor? I think there are enough problems in the country right now that the Central Bank governor should be interested about. But instead, he is concerned with Islamic banking.  That is what his trouble is; making it look like Islamic banking is going to solve all our problems.

Look at all the banks he told us were dying; and he pumped in billions of naira. What is the situation with those banks? Sometimes, we hear they are about to be sold. At other times, we hear they will be liquidated. There are kinds of things we are hearing. What is going on? Are those banks healthy? Are we in a stable banking situation right now in the country? If he has not sold those ones, why create other problems? I just cannot understand.


In view of the unfolding events in the country, the latest of which is the Boko Haram, do you have any fear for this country, particularly given the FBI report released a few years ago that said Nigeria may break up in 2015?
Well, first of all, many years ago, IBB reportedly said he didn’t know how Nigeria was still existing. Nigeria has existed as one up till this moment not so much because of our resolve to live together, work together and do things right. But I think God has been merciful. Somehow, there has been a divine touch to helping Nigeria remain one. But as we look at the trends, the events, the things happening, it is really frightening. I was looking at the newspapers and I saw Boko Haram was trying to blow up north-south bridge and all of that. You see, the thing is developing very fast. It is strange when you sit down and analyse all these things.

Now while we are still grappling with all that, Sanusi is coming with Islamic banking again. I am afraid. I want to continue to pray and ask those who love Nigeria to continue to pray. But as we pray, let us on our own say to ourselves, we want Nigeria to remain one; because if we don’t decide like that, we are trying to fulfil prophesy by ourselves. It is like we want to help the (FBI) report to happen faster than even what the people predicted. So that is my fear. What I am saying is that there are people working towards it. And it’s very frightening.

You are the co-chair of Nigeria Inter-Religious Council (NIREC) with the Sultan.
Have you taken some of these complaints to the body and what has been the attitude?
The problem is that we have not had a NIREC meeting for a while. We may not have it till September. That is quite sometime. There are some things I would have said, but I don’t want to get into it. Then again, I would be accused of heating up the polity.

Pastor, I got it from good authority that your counterparts in NIREC are not too comfortable with your style. They find it too volatile, to revolutionary. How do you react to such charges? Have you any apologies
Not at all. But I am hoping that that is not what they think. I am hoping that is not what they think or what they said. But if that’s what they think or said, I wish them the best, because I believe when you go to an organisation, you are representing something, someone or a group of people. So, I have a responsibility to represent my constituency. I am not there just to represent myself. I am there representing a group of people. So I must do what they sent me there to do. And as much as possible, that is what I am doing.

My concern is not with those people throwing the allegations. My concern is with the people who sent me. If the people who sent me there say ‘we are uncomfortable with the way you are doing, don’t do it like that, do it like this,’ then I am obligated to follow the instructions of those who sent me there. I am a servant of those who sent me there. I am doing what I believe they want me to do.

They believe as a Christian leader, you should be temperate. Not unduly radical, because now, they see you more as a fire-spitting activist than a religious leader.

What’s your reaction?
Well, again, the issue is this…I have always said that when I need to speak, I must speak, because I am representing people. When you look at events that have been happening in the north, who are the majority of people who are killed? Whose houses are burnt? Whose businesses are destroyed? Whose places of worships are destroyed? The majority of people killed, whose businesses and places of worship are destroyed, are Christians.  These are the people I am representing.

If it were the other way round, my counterpart will not be quiet. He will speak up. But, now he really has no issue to be speaking about. They have no issue here. Yes, agreed, that sometimes, Muslims are killed. If you hear that one mosque is burnt, at least, 20 churches have already been burnt. So, you have to understand that the issues on ground for me are heavy.

Your cross is heavier than that of your counterpart?
Very, very heavy. In fact, probably 100 times heavier. He doesn’t even have a cross. A Crescent is what he has. Look, I am from the South, please tell me, since you were born, how many mosques in the South had been burnt? Please, count them for me. How many Muslims have been targeted and killed in the South, since you were born? How many? Personally, I don’t think I can even remember. I am sure the reason I can’t remember is because probably it has never happened or one in a million.

If such things were happening in the South, do you think my friends on the other side would be quiet?
In fact, by now, Nigeria would be on fire.
But look at it, everyday, or every other day there are attacks. When you check, Christians are always at the receiving end. So, it would be very wrong of me as a leader to be quiet and just look.
When you read the Bible, Jesus was very mild and temperate. But He caned people out of the church. There were situations where Jesus reacted to issues. He called a king a fox. A king at that time was like the president of a country. So, Jesus called the president of a country, a fox. It is something that brings something. So, it is not that one is just an activist.

Who is an activist, anyway?
They say you are too hot for their liking
That is for their liking. What about my own people who are being killed? You must not only consider yourself. Consider me and consider my people that are being killed. So, as long as I am quiet, I am a nice man? Why should I be quiet? What do they want me to do; just to go and sleep in Warri? I can’t fall asleep now. I am alive. I have to look at issues as they come. Why is it that you are not working on your people to stop doing this? Am I the only one that would work for the unity of Nigeria? Shouldn’t we work together? It has to be a joint effort and a joint project. Haba!

The issue is, they want you to bring the matter for discussion in the room rather than taking them to the market place. Let me tell you this, for example, when the elections were concluded and the killings started, I was the one who called the Sultan, I called him, Your Eminence, my friend, look at what is happening. I was the one who told

Outstrip:
Everybody mourns differently. What if the child had a long and painful illness. Both parents are mentally and physically drained. I could see why a new and unfamiliar place to relax and not think about their loss would make sense. The boss is an a''ss

What if the boss decide not to give her the leave, and she has no annual leave period left.

The leave is at his desecration.

[quote author=obo_man link=topic=709868.msg8690804#msg8690804 date=1310332274]How the couple decides to spend their Holiday is entirely their business, not that of the boss, and besides, the boss shouldn't be spying on employees' Facebook pages. The boss is cynical, unprofessional and not fit for purpose.[/quote]It is not an annual leave/holiday.

If your boss gives you a sick leave, he expect you to be taking care of yourself.

If he gives you study leave, he expects you to be studying or writing and exam.

She was given the holiday specifically to mourn her kid and not for partying.

If she didn't loss her child, the boss won't give her that holiday.


The boss can decide not to give her that holiday, it is at his discretion.

Richvkunt:
T[b]he problem is that you can not easily identify the hustlers/hookers from the decent girls.Hustlers that patronise these big hotels are as well dressed,if not better dressed than the decent girls:[/b]Hence the policy of the hotels not to admit un accompanied ladies into their premises.Hotels that do not implement such policies will live to regret it because the love hawkers will descend on the hotel and give it a bad  name.
Few years ago I was at an hotel in Lagos,and as I attempted to drive into the premises,at least 20 girls descended on my car at the gate of the hotel,they were tapping on my car windows and pulling on my door handle,in fact they almost yanked off one off the door handles,while shouting:"Naa me he want!"
It was crazy.
Moral of the story:Any hotel that wants to maintain its standard does not allow unaccompanied single girls near its premises.Simple!

How many decent girls do you even see in hotels, except the one's lodging there.

A girl don't just walk into an hotel just for drinks.

Some men are vary patient  o o.

Mrs.Wigwe saw a patient man and she took advantage of the situation.

Yes some women folks are castigating Mr.Wigwe for his action to make his marriage work.

I always wonder why opposite folks  come together as husband and wife .

Today the women is bad if the man is good.

Tomorrow the man is bad if the woman is good.

Use your God given brain my friend.
Nigeria bank stocks are generally over-valued with little or No assets to write home about evidenced by the Madam Oceanic bank using the banks money to buy assets in her own name then loaning them back to the back.

Have you actually ever thought if the current value is actually the right value of the stocks or your ignorance is not going to allow you do basic stock valuation
SMH

How can you say Nigerian Banks have little or No assets .

Form your information those assets do not determine then value of their stocks.

Stock value is determined by efficient management  and profitability.


Comparing First Bank to GTB.

First Bank has more assets

GTB has better Stock Value.

It is the job of NRC to make sure people don't come near rail-line.

But these NRC workers are encouraging these activities, because they collect money from the people.

In civilised societies  NRC will face legal actions for negligence.

I am tired of these poeple worship on NL

First we have GEJ bootlickers-Beaf and co

Then[b] Tinubu bootlickers- Eko-ile and co[/b]

Now we have Sanusi bootlickers-Jarus and co.

I initialy thought Sanusi won an award until i saw he just delivered a speech.

Now those who supported his Sharia policies on NL won't let us rest.

[quote author=Chyz* link=topic=707003.msg8658547#msg8658547 date=1309907949][size=15pt]Jonathan shuns talks on Islamic banking. •Only court can stop us —Sanusi[/size]

Published on 05 July 2011

CLEMENT NWOJI, Abuja





President Goodluck Jonathan yesterday shunned the parley organised by the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) on Islamic banking.

This was as CBN governor, Mallam Lamido Sanusi dammed the series of criticisms which have greeted his recent moves to establish Islamic banking in the country, saying that only court can stop him from going ahead with it.

An indication of President Goodluck Jonathan not wanting to be associated with the controversy of the Islamic banking and its variant model played out yesterday as he declined to either be physically present or send a representative to deliver a keynote address as scheduled at the International Conference on Non-Interest (Islamic) banking in Abuja.

Also, the Permanent Secretary, Ministry of Finance, Mr Daniel Kifasi who was hurriedly co-opted by the CBN Governor to deliver the President’s speech even openly denied representing the President.

In his remarks, Kifasi denied that he was representing the President, explaining that he made efforts to get clarifications from the President but was locked out of the Villa gate.

However, Sanusi took time to trace the evolution of non-interest Islamic banking in the country, citing specifically that, in addition to Jaiz International Bank that had applied for and obtained CBN approval in principle to operate non-interest Islamic banking with regional authorisation in the country, other banks that have indicated interest to open Islamic banking windows include, Stanbic IBTC Bank Limited and Standard Chartered Bank Limited.

But against the spate of criticisms, the CBN Governor said "Anybody who feels Islamic banking is illegal should go to a court of law because it is the only institution that decides if something is illegal or not.

"If the court says it is illegal, we will stop it. But we don’t think the court will say so because we know it is constitutional and within the realm of the law."

He said whereas Stanbic IBTC Bank Limited had actually applied to the CBN to be given an approval in principle to operate an Islamic banking window, Standard Chartered Bank has informed the governor of its intention to submit an application to also open an Islamic banking window in the near future.

He traced the genesis of the Islamic banking saying: "The first major effort to operate Islamic banking services in Nigeria was in 1996 when the then Habib Bank sought and obtained CBN approval to operate Islamic banking model.

"Another application was received in 2007, when the CBN granted operational licence in principle to Jaiz International Bank to operate as a full-fledged non-interest banking institution. Unfortunately, the bank could not take off due to introduction of new capital requirements by the CBN.

"However, following the release of the new banking model in Nigeria, the proposed bank re-applied to CBN for a licence to operate as a non-interest Islamic bank with regional authorisation.

"The bank has been given an approval in principle and is expected to comply with the requirements for the grant of final licence to commence operations before the end of December. Also, Stanbic IBTC, a conventional bank, has applied and I am pleased to announce that it has been given an approval in principle to operate an Islamic banking window.

"Other prospective promoters and banks have also indicated interest to operate Islamic banks or windows and offer interest-free products and services. Indeed, Standard Chartered Bank has informed the Governor of its intention to submit an application to also open an Islamic banking window in the near future."

Also speaking, the Deputy Governor, Financial Systems Stability (FSS) of the CBN, Dr. Kingsley Muoghalu said the CBN had approached the Islamic Development Bank (IDB) for capacity building and technical assistance towards the realisation of an Islamic banking culture in Nigeria.

He said the idea of approaching IDB was predicated on the fact that Nigeria lacked the skills, legal and technical competences to operate Islamic banking earlier in the years.

Moghalu said non-interest banking has over $1 trillion in global assets and is growing at a rate of 15 to 20 per cent annually.

He said Nigeria decided to operate non-interest banking based on the fact that about 56 per cent of adult Nigerians are un-banked and there was the need to bring this number of Nigerians into the nation’s financial system.

Non-interest banking has undergone progressive evolution in the last four decades to become a dynamic and a new form of financial intermediation in the global financial system. It is being operated in about 475 institutions in at least 75 countries around the world, including major financial markets like London, Malaysia, Singapore and Hong Kong.

The appeal of this banking model comprise of introduction of diverse financial products and services, progressive in development and regulatory guidelines etc.


http://www.champion.com.ng/displaycontent.asp?pid=9845[/quote]So why is these bigot called CBN governor making noise, since he has made up his mind.

Let carry on his Muslim brethren are with behind him.

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=705920.msg8651262#msg8651262 date=1309827709]Please note that at the heart of week's violence is dire poverty and political manoeuvring - not religion. Most of the biolence is perpetrated mainly by frustrated, unemployed youths and orchestrated by religious leaders and politicians who manipulate them to retain power.

So who/what should GEJ destroy like you claim OBJ did?[/quote]Islamic Terrorism is not about poverty, it about spreading Islamic faith.

I tell you they will not rest until government do something.

@buzugee

all the engineers and petroleun engineers we have in nigeria and they cannot refine crude oil and neither can they build oil rigs. what exactly do nigerian engineers learn in school apart from how to balance moinmoin on top of eko so that it does not fall down ?

I do not know were you come from, but you saying "Nigerian Graduates Useless, Especially Engineers" because they can build refineries  is wrong.

Intelligent people don't generalise.

You forgot the the following:

1. Not all Engineers are meant to build refineries, Engineering  got differant fields.

2. All Engineering projects are capital intensive, you need an investor(not likely an engineer) before thinking of building a refinery.

3.The government don't encourage our local Engineers, just two months ago the-same government destroyed hundred  of mini-refineries in the SS.

   Claiming those refineries are illegal, when the government can easily license them and regulate their activities.

So don't just come blaming innocent people for Nigeria's sickness.

I see Muslims coming to Sanusi's aid !!!

Yet they claim Islamic Banking is for all.

I will fold my hands watch how it goes.

In-fact let them have their Islamic Banking.

We shall live to see the results of their actions.

donspony:
If Sanusi can lay out broadly the dynamics of Islamic banking
I would be prepared to listen.

Hostility stems from previous subtle religious undertones cue Sharia law, OIC  et al.
Therefore there is bound to be a level of mistrust.

No body is criticizing Islamic Banking.

But Nigeria is too polarized to bring in any religious law.

In a country where Christian are being killed for flimsy reasons.

When BOKO-HARAM is even threatening President GEJ  with bombing.

So how do you expect Christians to react .

The way Americans reacted to the Muslims building Mosque on GROUND ZERO.

ficoram:
Almost all ladies ll agree its not a waste,since they are not the one footing the bills.Lol

1. You call the girl everyday, she does not call you back, highest she flashes you, then if you dont call you are not caring.

Even when you buy her airtime "she will still flash you with the airtime".

MODERATOR CAN WE PLEASE HAVE THESE TREAD ON FRONT PAGE?

I know most people here use UBA accounts.

blink182:
Honestly sir that is none of my business, why are you people shouting, the bank is out to service upper middle class and the rich as for the rest of you, you can buzz off, your presence is no longer needed.

IBTC and emmmmmm, the bank owned by mike adenuga. . . ehen Equitorial Trust Bank. Even with your hundred thousand no one wil look at your face there. So let UBA be.

You are all welcomed to GTB and OCEANIC

My friend, stop that nonsense talk,

If you are privileged to have $1m in your UBA ACCT. that is your problem.

Majority of Nigerians  don't get 10k to to feed par month yet UBA wants them to forget 25k in their account.

And I though current accounts do not need minimum balance, why is UBA extending this to current acct?

[quote author=My-Key link=topic=703293.msg8637917#msg8637917 date=1309640191]Geely, a Shanghai-based carmaker  also owns Volvo, a Swedish company, Saab, a struggling Swedish carmaker, is trying to sell stakes to two Chinese firms to secure its future, MG Rover is now 100% Chinese owned, Lenovo, Huawei, etc, The US owes China $755.4 Billion in Debt and the Chinese economy is growing at 3 times that of the US .

China is the largest creditor nation.
China has the largest gross national savings ($3.2 Trillion as of 2010).
China is the largest exporter ($1.5 trillion as of 2010).

China is the 2nd largest economy ($5.8 trillion as of 2010).
China is the 2nd largest manufacturer ($1.48 Trillion as of 2010).
China is the 2nd largest trading nation ($2.8 trillion as of 2010).
China has the 2nd largest Industrial sector ($2.75 trillion as of 2010).
China is the 2nd largest importer ($1.3 trillion as of 2010).
China is the 2nd largest luxury goods consumer market ($10.7 billion as of 2010).

China has the 3rd largest total household wealth ($16.5 trillion as of 2010).
China is the 3rd largest consumer market ($2.3 trillion as of 2010).
China has the 3rd largest Service sector ($2.56 trillion as of 2010).
China has the 5th largest gold reserves (1,054 tonnes as of 2010).

if China slows, the entire world slows as global growth is driven by China.
if China sneezes, the world gets pneumonia.

Google it.

Only one in denial or a total  e.deot cannot see this simple logic that sooner or later China will be Numero Uno.    [/quote]Sorry in could not reply due to NL spam machine

The U.S Is Not Indebted To China Or The FED


When I was a junior in high school studying Economics, I interned one day a week for an entire semester with a large well known stock brokerage firm. The broker I predominantly worked with was an extremely intelligent man who was well educated in economics. He taught me that you don’t have to be that smart to be a successful stock broker. You just have to take the time to thoroughly research everything about potential investments and the business of money! This man had the privalege of doing business with the government’s of several foreign countries. Despite being Harvard educated he said this is how he found out how the U.S, and the rest of the world’s monetary systems actually work!

The US government is a monopoly of its currency. If they don’t print it there is no money here. They tax us to control population, spending power, and who gets the money. The gov’t must run a defecit (which means injecting more money into America’s economy than it receives in taxes) in order to allow economy to run smoothly. When they don’t inject enough money into economy we end up with a lot of unemployment, under-employment, and under paid-employment. Excessive gov’t spending and giving money to criminal financial institutions and corporations, contributes to the hyperinflation we have where Americans pay from 100-5000% more for products, service, and health care. The gov’t will never go broke, and they do not rely on tax revenues nor do they borrow money from china or any other country to finance this country!

IN 1971 PRESIDENT NIXON FORMERLY ENDED THE USE OF AN ASSET BACKED CURRENCY WHICH REQUIRED THE GOV'T TO POSSESS GOLD FOR EVERY DOLLAR PRINTED AND IN CIRCULATION AND SWITCHED TO A NON-CONVERTIBLE FIAT CURRENCY WHICH HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING BACKING EVERY DOLLAR PRINTED AND IN CIRCULATION. WITH A NON-CONVERTIBLE FIAT CURRENCY THE GOV'T CAN PRINT AS MUCH MONEY AS THEY DEEM NECESSARY. THE DOLLAR'S ONLY VALUE IS THE FAITH PEOPLE HERE AND ABROAD PLACE ON IT BY ACCEPTING IT AS A TOOL FOR TRADE, THAT IS IT! THIS IS WHY THE MAJORITY OF COUNTRIES USE THIS TYPE OF SYSTEM, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO BORROW, IT IS INK AND PAPER!

In short, the U.S. gov't offers bonds to anyone to drain excess reserves and to control the overnight loan interest rates. For example, China purchases $10 Billion Dollars worth of U.S. bonds with dollars they receive from all of the garbage products we buy from them. The U.S Treasury will deposit the cash into a (savings) account for China and debit $10 Billion Dollars from the excess reserves, The U.S. government does not use the money. If and when China wants to collect on the investment (plus typically low interest rate) the U.S. government will return the $10 Billion Dollars plus interest, into China’s (checking) account. Technically, the only reason treasury securities are auctioned off is because it is mandated by a law leftover during the asset backed currency that has absolutely no merit, and if China (or any investors) were to stop purchasing the securities the gov’t would simply abolish the law. It is a ruse! Very much like the fabricated debt ceiling that keeps getting raised despite tales of gloom. Or the idle threats of the federal gov't closing it's doors due to lack of funds.

ONCE MORE THERE IS NOTHING TO BORROW, IT'S INK AND PAPER!

http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Think-The-Government-Is-Hiding-Things-From-Us/1519815

shotuns:
I travelled passed the bridge few days ago, it was amazing. though all the techologies used were imported and copied but i
still give them thumps up for the project, I hope emergency stations are put up as well . Howerver China becoming the
world power could only be in the dream. rapid development in infastructure is only seen in the outside but internally lot for
China to worry about. Development doesn't equate with civilization, China is far from that modern civilization.

Nigeria should wake , this is the time.

+1

catso:
those chinese are doing wonders.
they are taking the world economy from USA soonest.
A lot of labour force are leaving US for china now.

Thumbs UP

Na lie o o,

Have you seen US GDP compared to China's GDP.

Please tell me any Original Chines brand, in electronic, auto mobile, telecom.e.t.c

Most of the made in China product we use are either US, Japanese or Europeans brands.

They either imitate those brands or manufacture for those brand.

Above all most people praising  China cannot live in China, their human right record is one of the worst on earth.

activists urge CBN to seek judicial interpretation

http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art201107021524043

Two human rights activists, Ugochukwu Osuagwu and Charles Ogboli, have added a new twist to the controversy about the proposed Islamic banking with a call on the governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria, Mallam Sanusi Lamido, to suspend action on it until the court gives its interpretation.


They are irked by the revised CBN circular reference No: FPR/DIR/CIR/GEN/01/017 dated June 21, which reversed its earlier circular reference No: FPR/DIR/CIR/GEN/01/010.


The lawyers, in a statement entitled, ‘The constitutionality of the proposed Islamic Banking-CBN’s blunder,’ said the highlights of the June 21 guidelines (earlier rejected by Sanusi’s predecessor, Prof. Charles Soludo), would show that the apex bank did not provide for similar procedures, rules and regulations for those who wanted to transact non-interest banking other than Islamic banking.


They said, “It is our view that the CBN should seek a judicial interpretation of the proposed Islamic banking guideline vis-a-vis the Nigerian constitution and Section 39 (1) BOFIA 1991 as amended, so as not to ignite speculation as to the constitutionally of the guidelines; more so, at a time when the country is passing through religious and security challenges.


“As we are aware, this matter has been taken to the law court for interpretation; we therefore advise the CBN to suspend further action on this proposed Islamic banking until the court disposes of the matter.


“In other words, the guidelines only recognised and made provision for non-interest (Islamic) banking and no other. This means unless a prospective applicant is a Muslim or is Sharia-compliant, they cannot obtain a licence to run non-interest banking. This provision is against Section 16 (1) a) of the 1999 Constitution.


“Second, the CBN, by stating in the guidelines that the word ‘Islamic’ shall not be used by the applicant for Islamic banking, makes no difference. The fact remains that the article and Memorandum of Association, practice and procedure of the bank will be Sharia law compliant.


“Third, the provision that such banks shall not give loans or allow for transactions in pork, arms and ammunition, alcohol and other goods and services prohibited by the Sharia law is unconstitutional.”


They cited Section 38 (1) of the 1999 Constitution (Freedom of thought, conscience and religion) and Section 10, which declares that Nigeria shall not adopt any religion as state religion, meaning the country is a secular state.

For those who think Nigeria is not a secular state.

maasoap:
Who will tell these people to stop this nonsense of saying that Nigeria is a secular state? There are two officially recognised religions in this country, Christianity and Islam because govt spends heavily on them every year.
And Christians out there should not make mistake of seeing Christianity and Islam at the same level. The former provides little guidelines for its followers to live their lifes while the latter provides a comprehensive guidelines for its followers right from when the parents want to conceive to when you're gasping for your last breath, and everything in between (economy, sport, science, religion, politics and governance, courtship, marriage, eating, sleeping, and just anything you have words to describe, including WAR). May be when next time you people are writing new version, you should try and include all these aspects of life in your book because I could see a pure jealous.

My friend Nigeria is a secular state.

Saudi, UAE, Vertican, are not secular states.

Go check the meaning of  a secular state.

Even the USA  with predominant Christians is secular state.

LagosShia:
well thank you for informing us who okogie is:the christian abacha!or maybe the catholic hitler (official).

sanusi is only doing his work.he cannot tell muslim businessmen that they cannot form a bank because it uses an islamic banking system.if he does that sanusi knows he would have done wrong to risk his job.if okogie likes let him use his money and open a "christian bank".sanusi will approve his bank as well.okogie and his likes should stop criticizing everything out of religious hatred and jealousy.okogie and his likes should stop criticizing destructively.

Are you saying Sanusi'as action is influenced by the "muslim businessmen"?

The-same muslim businessmen with investments in FBN,UBA, UNION BANK, e.t.c.

Why did't The-same muslim businessmen influence SOLUDO?

Now you know Sanusi has an agenda.

LagosShia:
too many have barked and I’m sure they know they are making no sense at all and it will take them nowhere. So they feel it’s time for this okogie guy to come out and make a final loser attempt.

you just need to Google the words "Islamic banking nairaland" and see the too many threads already created thanks to the irresponsible statements by these semi-literate and ill-intended men:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=islamic+banking+nairaland&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7ADFA_en

as for this Okogie who is trying to interfere in politics and governance I really don’t understand how this man who represents the "archdioceses of Lagos" has the guts to open his mouth and tell us that Muslim Nigerian citizens have an agenda to Islamize Nigeria. he is sitting down there representing the "archdioceses of Lagos". he is directly reporting to the pope, who is the head of state of the Vatican. He is committing treason by being loyal and representing the interest of another state and telling us others have an agenda to Islamize Nigeria. does he think that he does not have an agenda to "Christianize” Nigeria? or does he think he is fooling anyone?

Another point he made was that Nigeria is too volatile for us to have an Islamic bank and it will increase tension in the country. He forgets that he is the one doing exactly that and openly through his provocative statements against the Muslims of the country. I hope that the Muslims this time around will not forget the ill-intentions of these so called Christian leaders and that in the near future they will live to be held accountable for their misbehavior. If these careless men do not issue empty statements to increase the tension, there is no tension at all.

When redeem and other Christian groups open schools and universities in the country, the Muslims do not object.or have we forgotten the catholic mission? Muslims see it that everyone is free to attend the school of his choice. But when Muslims want to open an Islamic institution that is legitimate and is their right, this man is talking as if he does not have the choice not to bank with a non-Islamic bank. He is talking as if Muslims care about him or they are begging or forcing him to bank with an Islamic bank. Okogie should know that in Nigeria there are things he cannot kick against because if he tries to do that, his leg will break! I admire the strength, patience and maturity of the Muslim leaders so far who have ignored all these provocative statements against them by these so call Christian leaders so that there is no tension as these ill-intended men want to picture it and make tension happen.


the funny part of it all is pointing an accusing finger at Sanusi.what has he got to do with islamic banking?there are muslim businessmen using their hard earned and private money to invest in an islamic banking system.are they not free to do business the way they like?are they not free to practice their faith?are they not free to use their money the way they like?

You seems not to know Cardinal Okogie, maybe you  just came to 9ija, go and ask Abacha, Ibb.e.t.c

The only Bigot i see here is SANUSI and his Muslim folks.

We all saw how Northern governor use their Sharia to intimidate fellow Christian in North.

The-same  Northerners come to the south and nobody oppress them with religious laws.

Now SANUSI is doing the-same in banking.

Yet call Nigeria a Non-religion state.

maclatunji:
Pope says yes to Islamic banking, Cardinal Okotie says no. The cardinal is towing the line of sedition in Catholism and is the real trouble maker here with the likes of Oritsejafor. Arab boy is right, Christians have been brought-up to think they are superior to Muslims in Nigeria. Hence, they feel insulted that Muslims actually have an alternative financial system which has been endorsed by the highest Christian body in the world- The Vatican. The government is pushing the Islamic banking agenda and rightfully so. President Jonathan wants to be a billionaire in dollar terms before he leaves office and is deaf to your rantings laced with bigotry- I find that highly interesting. Fresh Air is here, enjoy it!

And will the POPE ban Cardinal Okogie for saying his mind? no.

Nigeria is a secular state,  The Vatican  is not.

The constitution is not influenced by any religion, it recognised all religion in Nigeria.

@Musiwa

Must of the Korean, Japanese and Indonesians I have worked with are Technician and not University graduates.

But those  lads can troubleshoot any Printed Circute Board on Earth.

Yet must of our EE graduates from OAU and UI, cannot handle a soldering Iron, all they know is "Theories from Text Books".

Technical Education is the only route to industrialisation.