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IslamRe: Religion Of Peace Indeed by Empiree: 9:45pm On Aug 11, 2020
sunshineV:
Listen to yourself, you sound stupid
You mean Bibnle?
Christianity EtcRe: Religion Of Peace Indeed by Empiree: 7:40pm On Aug 11, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Let us assume for a second that it is indeed a state law, last I checked, Nigeria is now a democracy, a rule of the people, meaning that laws are meant to favor the freedoms of the people, and not impose barbarism instead. Now that said..

That law, even if at the state level, needs to be abolished as it does not benefit mankind in any way or form.
so why are you still mobbing and lynching people for stealing?.

Why do you continue to beat pastors caught with another man's wife?.

Why do you still strip naked alleged witches.

Why why why... Why do you still set people on fire in Nigeria?. Why why why my brother. Is that part of your democracy?.


All these things you Nigerians do without legal process. So you can not call this blasphemous judgement passed down "barbaric" because it is legal. Your can not just sit by your computer and tell me they need to abolish the law. Only federal govt can review that not noise makers on the internet. You are not helping the guy by making noise online. If you truly want to help him, write petition to the State govt and beg them. You do not challenge them. You hear me?.

Law is law. If you don't like it that's your problem. Why would someone delibrately chose to blaspheme religious figure to begin with?. Don't they have home training, manners, morals and learn to respect right of others?.

What democracy do you have in Nigeria whereby a religion dominates many companies in Nigeria and they forced their prayers every morning?. Is this democracy?.

In a true democracy religion has no place in govt but in Nigeria, you see governor placed his religious symbols in office and invited pastors even from foreign countries to pray at his office. Is that democracy?.

Keep deceiving yourselves.

CrimeRe: Yahaya Aminu Sharif Sentenced To Death For Blasphemy Against Prophet Muhammad by Empiree: 7:27pm On Aug 11, 2020
JesusJesus:
People do it. It's not a system. Sharia is a system.
you have answered yourself. Thank you very much.

By the way, I hope you understood consequences of what you said? If people mob and kill someone for unverified crime, what is that called again?. It is called jungle justice.


Go back to your dictionary for the meaning of jungle justice. It is unverified crime even if the victim actually committed the crime. But there is no legal justice in that to defend himself in court.

But Sharia is a system as you rightly said and there is a legal process. So this judgement was handed down by govt from legal perspective.

Clear?.
Christianity EtcRe: Religion Of Peace Indeed by Empiree: 4:46pm On Aug 11, 2020
Kobojunkie:
What the heck are you talking about? A man is to be executed simply for saying what is on his mind and you think it is hypocrisy to demand an end to such barbarism? Are you alright in the head at all?

If a human being cannot even speak his mind without fear of being murdered then tell me what is the worth of our existence as beings on this dimension? Why are we?
guy, this is not murder. It is a judgement handed down by govt. It is govt. Do you know the difference?. The state govt passed law and enforced it. It has nothing to do with Islam and Muslims. Laws are meant to check and balance. You understand?.

Your utterances aren't helping the guy. Your utterances are challenging govt. You are just gonna provoke govt to execute him. If you truly want to help the guy, you need to write petition and respectful plead to govt to be lenient. This is how civilized people behave not criticism of Islam and Muslims. Criticism will not help him. There is no clear cut verse in the Qur'an for this judgement. So why are you blaming Islam?. But there is a verse in the Bible that punishment for blasphemy is death. Check it out.

If govt punishes it is not murder in the eye of the law but penalty. Be civilized brother.

IslamRe: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 3:44pm On Aug 11, 2020
It is obvious you have nothing to say. I have quoted Bible verse to back my position. Why did you turn blind eyes?. If that was Qur'an quotation you would repost it.

How about German law of 5yrs in prison for denying Holocaust?. Holocaust people are dead and their spirit are dead too. Why are they still trying to defend them?.


So do you support 5yrs sentence for denying Holocaust?. All these lynchings are very rampant in Nigeria across-the-board. There is no need to screen region or profile. Every Nigerian is a potential lyncher. Pastors are demigods who decides who's a witch and should be strip naked.
AbdulSleeky:
You support the punishment for criticising the dead men and spirits that you call "religious figures"? And you wonder why I see you as a fanatic?

So if I said that prophet Mohammed was a hypocrite, I should be locked up? Do you see how much of a barbaric fanatic you are?

ANIMAL
IslamRe: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 3:37pm On Aug 11, 2020
Hypocrite ni e. You are treating personality but I am treating society. You have no point. Say something else
AbdulSleeky:
huh

Those are poverty-stricken illiterates. You will never see such in places in Lagos like Lekki, GRA, VI etc. Also, do two wrongs make a right? Are you dense?

Have you ever seen any educated christian or atheist in Nigeria kill in the name of religion? Have you seen Pastors Adeboye, TB Joshua or anyone from the Nigerian Atheist Society call for the arrest or death of anyone on blasphemy charges?

Yet, we have both educated and non-educated muslims calling for blood and serious punishment for blasphemy.

This is a disgrace.

Even MURIC are now under investigation for being terrorists.

What a disgrace.
IslamRe: Religion Of Peace Indeed by Empiree: 3:32pm On Aug 11, 2020
sunshineV:
So there is about to be an execution in the North for blasphemy and it's not on front page yet? Bloody terrorist ogun kill una mama


Useless animals in humans skin
The judge that passed death sentence followed biblical judgement. Now make your decision.


Leviticus 24:15-16


Say to the Israelites: ‘Anyone who curses their God will be held responsible; anyone who blasphemes the name of the Lord is to be put to death. The entire assembly must stone them. Whether foreigner or native-born, when they blaspheme the Name they are to be put to death.

CrimeRe: Yahaya Aminu Sharif Sentenced To Death For Blasphemy Against Prophet Muhammad by Empiree: 2:10pm On Aug 11, 2020
I understand writer bcuz I understand Nigeria and Nigerians
Rilwayne001:
The writer could have factored in the society for which he was writing too, that way, he captures everything and there won't be loopholes of bias. If he had written that with respect to a generally Islamic Society like Saudi, then no one have the right to bat an eye. But then, I raised a pertinent objection in my initial post to the writers opinion on why the prophet didn't bother about those that insulted him, I didn't see you reply to that. My conclusion in that post too, you didn't reply. Without a consensus on the logic that warranted the need to kill blasphemers, I don't think a supposed public moral law can be established.
PoliticsRe: Obadiah Mailafiya: A Northern Governor Is The Commander Of Boko Haram by Empiree: 2:06pm On Aug 11, 2020
afube:
oponu you are !!!
I didn't insult you
IslamRe: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 2:02pm On Aug 11, 2020
This is your opinion and it is irrelevant. What do you nigerians do to thieves when they are caught?.

What do you Nigerians do to a man caught in hotel with another's wife?

What do you nigerians do to alleged witches?

You lynch these people without judicial process. Now who's more violent?. Who's more barbaric?. This case of blasphemer was handled by govt not the people. Govt has the right to do and undo. So who's more violent?
AbdulSleeky:
Can everyone see? Some muslims are just an embarrassment to other muslims. We have very few moderates here. Too many are like Emp.iree who have fanatic views


How can an educated muslim support this statement- "INSULTING RELIGIOUS FIGURES IS TANTAMOUNT TO CIVIL UNREST IN A COMMUNITY".

Is that not admitting that muslims are violent (as they will cause CIVIL UNREST) whenever religious figures are insulted?


We truly need more moderate muslims. These fanatics are an embarrassment!

IslamRe: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree:
How did insult you?. Did you skip your comment where you said the same thing to me?. I simply reciprocated your gestures.

I said "religious figures". Does that limits it to Islam only?. Listen, I support punishment for insulting religious figures 100%. It doesn't have to be death sentence. That's choice of govt. It can be jail, community service etc. What people don't understand is that judgement like this is meant to regulate or coordinate society. What if angry people have lynched the guy?. He would be dead long ago. But his case went through judicial process which means there is still possibility of having his judgement vacated if people would plea to the govt and not challenge the judgement.

Challenging this judgement is not helping the guy at all. You only provoke govt by that. So govt has the right to pass and enforce law. I support this. This has nothing to do with religion itself. It is govt decision.

If they born you well, go to Germany and tell them openly that you don't believe in holocaust. If you are a CEO or own your company or if you are govt employee, I can guarantee you that you will lose your job, your freedom and you will be jailed. It is illegal in Germany to deny Holocaust. So question is, don't people have free speech to deny Holocaust if they don't believe it?.

Also, entire Nigeria and Nigerians are full of HYPOCRISY. There is nothing like "Nigeria is a secular country". This is a joke. I am telling you now that Nigeria is not a secular country. It seems people don't know the meaning of secularism.

It means to take God out of your public life. This is very simple definition. Now, in Nigeria do you take God out of your public life?. Public life by definition is activities outside of your home. But in Nigeria, you pray in the morning at school. You pray at work. You have opening prayers before events. You have opening prayers at govt offices. A man wanted to pay his electric bill on January 2nd this year in Lagos. Upon getting there, he found employees outside praying (Christians ofcourse). They delayed him for 30 mins. After that they told him that they are just getting started. They prayed for another 1hr and this guy was getting angry already.

Remember this is a govt office, NEPA. I won't even support Muslims should do that. Work is work. It should have absolutely nothing to do with religion. But these people kept the man waiting for hrs until he called their headquarters in Marina. He was told that every govt office is on prayer session for New Year. Abeg, prayers on January 1st no reach God?. Why prayers during business hours to infringe other people's right?.

You are all deceiving yourselves by saying Nigeria is a secular country. It is not. And they are full of double standards. They prayed and delayed customers from paying their electric bill but they would deny Muslim students from wearing hijab to school yet, they claim Nigeria is a secular country.

So, I am sorry, I support this judgement.

Whether it is harsh or not is another topic of debate. Afterall it is not a law in our religion of Islam. Death punishment for blasphemy is found in the Bible. We only help them enforce it.
AbdulSleeky:
Thank you for the insult. I have never advocated to limits the rights of any person whether they are muslim, christian or pagan. Unlike you, who believes that criticism of islam is an insult that has to be punished.

IMAliyu, can you see your muslim brother? He is supporting the death sentence so that no one can insult islam. What an animal.


Just look at the picture he posted below! Pay attention to the last sentence; "INSULTING RELIGIOUS FIGURES IS TANTAMOUNT TO CIVIL UNREST IN A COMMUNITY".

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[quote author=AbdulSleeky post=92698819]Thank you for the insult. I have never advocated to limits the rights of any person whether they are muslim, christian or pagan. Unlike you, who believes that criticism of islam is an insult that has to be punished.

IMAliyu, can you see your muslim brother? He is supporting the death sentence so that no one can insult islam. What an animal.


Just look at the picture he posted below! Pay attention to the last sentence; "INSULTING RELIGIOUS FIGURES IS TANTAMOUNT TO CIVIL UNREST IN A COMMUNITY".

www.nairaland.com/attachments/12106050_screenshot202008110620552_png3b

CrimeRe: Yahaya Aminu Sharif Sentenced To Death For Blasphemy Against Prophet Muhammad by Empiree: 12:49pm On Aug 11, 2020
That's hypocrisy of the politicians. That has nothing to do with writer's view. They are different cases unfortunately. We can see their glaring HYPOCRISY but again, it is different from writer's view.

Writer's argument is based on public moral law. We can only plea for leniency now and not argue about the judgement. It will make things worse.

We can as well say it is hypocritical of many Nigerian people who criticize this judgement because the same people are quick to strip thieves naked and set them on fire in the same Nigeria without judicial process. So it goes both ways actually.
Rilwayne001:
Government or not, sentencing people for blasphemy is sick. And the writer ignoring the fact that the prophet even did nothing to those that insulted him during his time shows he's not been honest in his analysis. For Pete's sake, who was the head of Muslims during the prophet's time? Was it not the prophet himself? So which authority was he expected to report to then?

Also it is important to take note that, this alleged blasphemy law is expected to take more foothold in a generally Islamic dominated society,and not what's regarded as a secular society. The hypocrisy of the North on this particular issue is obvious to everyone. Their politicians have been caught on numerous occasions stealing public funds. One was even caught receiving bribe on tape. Boko Haram/Fulani has continued to kill innocent civilians, when caught they are not tried in a sharia court, same with the politicians. They are tried in a non Islamic court. What is the Islamic punishment for stealing? Has it been melted out on any on these politicians? What is the Islamic punishment for taking people's life unjustly? Has it been meted out of Boko Haram and Fulani herdsmen? Why is a blasphemer being tried in a Shariah court while others are tried in a secular court? Why is blasphemer facing Islamic punishment for blasphemy while thieves are killers aren't facing Islamic punishment?
Between a blasphemer and a thief/killers who's impact affect the society the most?

These are pertinent questions we need to ask ourselves.

And jungle justice on thieves is not as rampant as it appears. Even so, thieves cause more damages for the already damaged society, the major reason why people take laws into their hands. But when a mad man insult God or his prophet, pray tell, what damage does his madness cause the society? Do we fight for a supreme Being as if he's not capable to do so for himself?
CrimeRe: Yahaya Aminu Sharif Sentenced To Death For Blasphemy Against Prophet Muhammad by Empiree: 12:10pm On Aug 11, 2020
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CrimeRe: Yahaya Aminu Sharif Sentenced To Death For Blasphemy Against Prophet Muhammad by Empiree: 12:10pm On Aug 11, 2020

CrimeRe: Yahaya Aminu Sharif Sentenced To Death For Blasphemy Against Prophet Muhammad by Empiree: 12:09pm On Aug 11, 2020
JesusJesus:
Sentenced to death for blasphemy.
Nawa ooo.
What kind of world are we in today?
why do you lynch people to death for stealing without judicial process?.

Don't people do this in Nigeria?.
PoliticsRe: Obadiah Mailafiya: A Northern Governor Is The Commander Of Boko Haram by Empiree: 11:30am On Aug 11, 2020
stephanie11:
POLITICSNIGERIA.COM


https://politicsnigeria.com/breaking-a-northern-governor-is-the-commander-of-boko-haram-obadiah-mailafiya/
was the same governor sponsoring BH during Obasanjo, Yar'adua and Jonathan regime?.

Keep deceiving yourselves. After Buhari, this governor will also leaves office but BH will still continue. Then he will tell us who's sponsoring them again. E ma tan ara yin.
IslamRe: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree:
Your are a disgrace to atheist community
AbdulSleeky:
You are wasting your time. Muslims like Emp.iree, Lan.rexlan, Stalw.ert and S.ino all support blasphemy laws.

They dont care about non muslims, especially those who are brave enough to criticise islam. If you criticise islam, you should be punished or killed.

Do you see them commenting on the blasphemy case? Never.

But when China does the same to muslims, they will be complaining.

Empiree even has the nerve to complain that Christians are bullying muslims in Migeria because of secondary school hijab and Christian programs. HOW CAN A NORMAL PERSON COMPARE BANNING HIJAB TO LOSS OF LIFE? THEY ARE ON VERY DIFFERENT SCALES.

As far as I'm concerned, majority of the regular muslim commenters here in nairaland are uneducated bigots. It is only a few moderates that are reasonable and I respect them.

Let me make it clear- IF YOU ARE A MUSLIM KEEPING QUIET ABOUT THE BLASPHEMY CASES IN NIGERIA OR YOU ARE DIRECTLY SUPPORTING THE PUNISHMENT OR DEATH SENTENCE OF NON-MUSLIMS FOR BLASPHEMY, YOU ARE A FANATICAL EXTREMIST. YOU ARE NO DIFFERENT FROM THOSE IN CHINA WHO MALTREAT AND ARREST MUSLIMS FOR PRACTICING THEIR FAITH.

This whole thing is a disgrace.

IslamRe: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree:
IMAliyu:
This really needs to stop.

Let's entertain and say that blasphemy was really a heinous crime as bad a killing someone and he broke the law of the land.
Was it necessary to burn he's family's house what was there part in his conscience actions, was it part of the sentence passed by the judge?

https://www.nairaland.com/6045398/yahaya-aminu-sharif-sentenced-death

This kind of stuff just serves to confirm the negative view of Muslims held by the world.

So what he sang blasphemy? Would it really affect a God, didn't the Arabs that later converted say worse to Muhammad's face, did it leave a scar?

This is the equivalent of killing a dog because it barked at you.
My friend, is doesn't leave any scar. Time has changed. There is what they called "freedom of speech" today which gives everyone to say anything to anyone without regards for feelings of others. Authority has the right to pass law and enforce it. It has little to do with islam in itself but to create harmony in community. Ask yourself why they have law to persecute anyone whoever denies holocaust?. Go to Germany and deny Holocaust and you see what happens to you. You will lose your job. You will lose your freedom. You will have your life threatened. So in order not to have anarchy whereby average citizens dont care to take law into their hands, it is better for authority to persecute. I dont care what christians and atheists think. They are hypocrites. Dont christians have blasphemy law in their own bible?, Sincerely speaking i dont know much about this case but it is what it is. Why are they only interested in insult and blaspheming others?. Dont they have better things to do?. Just bcuz Nabi (SAW) himself did not persecute doesn't mean authority today can't.

Quran doesn't specifically speak of punishment for drug traffickers or drug abusers. But many countries have law against it. Why did US send Loon to a decade behind bar?. Which religious guide they used?. It is because they know drug trafficking is evil to the society and they sent the guy t jail. So bcus neither bible nor Quran speaks about it means they should let drug traffickers go scot free?. Abeg, if you blaspheme religious figures you must face consequences of the law. Pure and simple. Why are they the ones attacking islamic figure?. You dont see muslims do that to them. Dont they have moral conduct?. Quran say

Obey Allah. Obery messenger and those in authority which means authority have level of right to pass law for safety of the society.
IslamRe: ...... by Empiree: 1:35pm On Aug 10, 2020
aumeehn:
okay. By Quran calculation there are 8 Kun Faa Yaa Kuun,

if a person can extract all the Kun Faa Yaa Kuun in the Quran it is a powerful sirri just like the 7 Mubeen in Suratul Yaseen.

If i can remember vividly there is even a Wazifa for Yaseen that you posted on this thread, where you said we should recite Ya Qahar and other tasbih when we reach each Mubeen.

What i am talking about now is the sirri of Kun Faa Yaa Kuun, even though you didnt post the whole nakali in details, i was able to decode it since i have an idea of the Nakali as i said earlier.

So is it advisable to print the Whole 8 Kun faa Yaa Kuun and be reciting it or is there something that should be done, apart from the Muqaddima?

I hope you now understand what i am talking about. Jazakallahu khair.
oh did I post Kun Fa Ya Kun here?. I don't recall posting it here at all.

Well all eight Kun Fa Ya Kun recitation is nakali on its own. You can simply extract them from Qur'an in order and recite them in order after salat fajr everyday. This is different from the other nakali I posted in which you recite entire sura Yasin. That's one is actually mubin because I remembered posting this.

There are 2 ways you can recite Kun Fa Ya Kun. If you are not in hurry, as in going to work etc, you take your time to recite each Kun Fa Ya individually. After each Kun Fa Ya Kun you say your niyat.

But if your are in hurry to go out you can recite the whole Kun Fa Ya Kun in order and at the end of the last Kun Fa Ya Kun you say your niyat.

Again, always make your muqadima permanent in every Dua you make especially this three:

Istigfar
Shahada
Salawat


And after Dua you recite salawat again. What this means is tawasul. That is, Allah will not accept your Dua at the beginning and reject it at the end. Vice versa.

I hope I grabbed your question and I hope this answers your question?.
IslamRe: ...... by Empiree: 9:04pm On Aug 09, 2020
aumeehn:
i mean, since the Ayas (verses) are short, can i recite all the Verses like 1k times? And secondly is the Recitation done in orderly manner? That is the first Kun fa Ya kuun then the second till the last one, or it can be recited anyhow.

I hope you understand. Thanks
Yes you can. But i still want you to make reference from the post so i can have vivid memory of this particular dua you are referring to. Looks like you made reference to my old post.
IslamRe: ...... by Empiree: 3:44pm On Aug 09, 2020
aumeehn:
thanks Alot. And please as for the recitation can i recite like 1k that is all the Ayas? Or single recitation is enough? May Allah continue to bless you ameen
I don't quite understand your question. Rephrase please

Better still, you may reference nakali you are referring to.
IslamRe: ...... by Empiree: 2:06pm On Aug 09, 2020
Walaikum Salaam

Your should always observe Muqaddimah before and after. I have said this several times. Muqaddimah is prologue i:e istigfar 100x, la ilaha Ila Allah 100x, salawat 100x. This is the minimum.
aumeehn:
Assalamu Alaikum. Sheik i came across this post while reading the thread from the first page. There is this Sirri of Kun Fa Ya Kuun that i have, its just like a formular because it's mixed with Jawhara and Barhatiy and Dala'ilul khairat so its kinda voluminous not something a learner like me can do but i have it sha. Now my question is After extracting the Ayats, i should just go ahead and recite it with niyya or is there something i will do before or after reciting the Ayats? Please shed more light. May Allah bless you aboundantly ameen.
PoliticsRe: Mubarak’s Wife Appeals To Nigerian Senate after 100 days in prison by Empiree: 11:12am On Aug 09, 2020
Do you have any sense?. This is govt vs citizen. What's islam has to do with this?. That's the case, did you watch CHRISTIAN man wrongly persecuted and tortured by CHRISTIAN govt in US?.
Parisian:
I hope people can now see clearly the difference between Christianity and Islam.

If you like insult Jesus from dusk till dawn, no Christian will hurt you or ask for your head, na you go even tire.

But why isn't the Nigerian govt doing anything about this ? Is Nigeria an Islamic state?

PS : Some fools will come here to bash religion, as if it's not Islam in particular that did this.
PoliticsRe: Mubarak’s Wife Appeals To Nigerian Senate after 100 days in prison by Empiree: 10:58am On Aug 09, 2020
Shegs12345:
Nigeria govt and lawlessness are like 5 and 6
it is not peculiar to only Nigeria. This is how all or most countries act.. Did you watch story of a Nigerian man in US that recently gone viral?.
IslamRe: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 1:17am On Aug 09, 2020
AutosRe: How Innoson Military Trucks Are Manufactured (Photos, Video) by Empiree: 7:36pm On Aug 07, 2020
This is one of the many reasons I hate Black people. Always pull down their own. Let's assume those guys were White I am sure these imbeciles would be different.
IamWonderful:
Moving casket, this one can withstand explosive mines, wacky
Simplyleo:
Innoson can manufacture military vehicles?

Like seriously.

But it cant manufacture ordinary ambulance ~ Ifeanyi Ubah

Keep deceiving yourselves with useless ivm. undecided
Godons1:
Fake and substandard moving Coffins. This Car is the reason our Golant Soldier are killed by Boko Boys.
IslamRe: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 10:04am On Aug 07, 2020
AbdulSleeky:
Fake news. Which scholars are saying that?
ask them cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Yasir Quadhi: Problems With The Preservation Of The Quran by Empiree: 5:12am On Aug 07, 2020
IslamRe: Shaykh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory by Empiree(op): 3:39am On Aug 07, 2020
IslamRe: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree:
Still blaming muslims for pedophilia?. "Pedophiles are human beings too. They have rights just like gay people"

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=736026333874443&id=100024012499367


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNr3yhjQPI8

IslamRe: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 4:05pm On Aug 06, 2020
AbdulSleeky:
of course. i am not a christian.
liar. You are undercover christheist cheesy
IslamRe: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 2:11pm On Aug 06, 2020
AbdulSleeky:
You first picked on churches and I balanced the equation with mosques.

Dont be dishonest
and if the note had emphasized many mosques would you have criticized churches?

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3119537138124603&id=100002050435697

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