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Janosky:
John 14:28, John 17:7,How can Jesus Christ grasp "equality" he says he doesn't have?

Lying liar JaNosense, where did Jesus say He doesn't have equality with God?

Phillipians 2:6, Mounce Greek interlinear screenshot proven the GIBBERISH in all the Trinitarian doctored versions quoted by Emusan.

It's Mounce Greek this time not Jerusalem Bible

The problem you're having is lack of comprehension.

Even both Mounce Greek and other translations I provided are saying the same thing but you're too dull to grasp it

CEV, OJB are doctored this time because they didn't dance to your tune

The same way Mounce Greek will become a doctored or laywer by you later [right][/right]

Here is the verse again in other translations

CEV: Christ was truly God. But he did not try to remain equal with God.

ERV: He was like God in every way, but he did not think that his being equal with God was something to use for his own benefit.

EHV: Though he was by nature God, he did not consider equality with God as a prize to be displayed,

GW: Although he was in the form of God and equal with God, he did not take advantage of this equality

MSG: He had equal status with God but didn’t think so much of himself that he had to cling to the advantages of that status no matter what.

NIRV: In his very nature he was God. Jesus was equal with God. But Jesus didn’t take advantage of that fact.

OJB: Who, though existing in the demut of the mode of being of Elohim [His etzem or essential nature, Yn 1:1-2; 17:5], nevertheless Moshiach did not regard being equal with G-d as a thing to be seized [BERESHIS 3:5] Phil 2:6

Janosky:
Acts 1:8 & Matthew 10:6,Did Jesus Christ CHANGE his doctrines?

Of course, we know the worshipper of the 8 lying Old men must indict everybody even Jehovah CHANGE HIS DOCTRINE

But yet what the demonic Watchtower did is teaching error and failed prophecies

YES !!
See this hypocrite & enemies of Jesus gospel DECEIVING themselves?

Yet the friend of Jesus lying against the same Jesus

Just like a case of backstab friend

What happened at the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD & the Council of Constantinople in 381AD?

60 good years apart before your Trinity mentors elevated Jesus Christ to divinity status and later catapult una ghost to divinity status.
Achorladey & him Trinity crew are Hypocrites .

I know you are very shallow in thinking but I'll help you.

What happened at Nicea 325 & 381 can't be compared to the subject matter.

When both Jesus and Holy Spirit were said to make up the Trinity with the Father, there was no back and forth or being confused like your demonic Watchtower and the reason why Satan set up your organization to keep fighting those decision till date is because there was no confusion, the same people didn't come back latter and started changing mouth like Watchtower.

Janosky:
Me LIENUS DECEIVING himself

We know you're a liar, you don't need to remind us again

2 Corinthians 13:11
"Finally, brothers and sisters, rejoice, continue to MEND YOUR WAYS....."

JEHOVAH'S servants will continue to obey the holy scriptures @2 Corinthians 13:11 while you continue WAILING & DECEIVING yourself.

The light is not getting brighter again, it's MEND YOUR WAYS

MaxInDHouse:
Oh thank you Emusan;

Yeah! You're welcome MaxinDHouse.

MaxInDHouse:
If obedience to those taking the lead among us in the faith {Hebrews 13:17} means worship to some people then i'll worship them till Jesus return.

Of course you know you're worshipping them, did anybody stop you before?

He is even waiting for Jesus return when Jesus has returned since 1914, how many times will Jesus return?

Because Jesus said whatever thing they bind on earth will be bound in heaven and whatever thing they loosen on earth will be loosened in heaven {Matthew 16:19} Jesus even said whoever fails to acknowledge them be will cast away! Matthew 25:41-46

I thought these are for first desciples, when does this start speaking about the 8 Old lying men

No wahala if obedience to them means worship to some people then i'm worshiping them o!

If there's no wahala, why are you repeating it?

achorladey:
Read the bible as usual and la cram la pour what your religious leaders taught you its interpretation.

Where did you see governing body in Hebrews 13:7, 17?

Paul corrected Peter not governing body. Should I ask is Peter a governing body? What will you say?

You know the term "governing body" must somehow find its place in the scripture just to continue to defend the 8 lying old men in Brooklyn.

haddeylium:
Don't be a waste of time please.

Cry me a river

How can you be with someone without the person being with you?

Jesus didn't say He will be with the thief, that was your own injection

I think this more of a linguistic difference than a biblical one.

When it suits you people, we based all our teachings on Bible when it doesn't, it can be anything including linguistic difference

Now, where do you think the comma should be placed?

Since Jesus promised was that all His followers will be WITH HIM where He is, then the comma should be rightly put before Today just as majority of translations did.

haddeylium:
Now that you're learning...

Not now, I've been learning from birth.

The earthy paradise that Jesus promised the thief will be governed by Jesus as King.

Let me help you put the word in Jesus mouth

"I tell you today, you will be in Paradise which I'll be governed from heaven"

Since you know me oree than Jesus.

Hence, Jesus will be WITH this thief and other countless deadones when he resurrect them from the grave to life in paradise earth (John 5:38,29 ; Rev 20:11-13; 21:3-4)

@color speaks a lot about how you people can twist the scripture.

Jesus didn't say He'll be with the thief and countless deadones rather the thief will BE WITH JESUS just as other countless deadones will be with Jesus.

"When everything is ready, I will come and get you, so that you will always be with me where I am. John 14:3

cornelboy:
He wasn't meant to retain his spirit body but came in flesh as pure human.

Which means the second highest in command, whom Jehovah Himself created just vanished into tin air without trace

Did John say his name was the Word?
Jesus has many title.

Yes! Read your Bible

All the Bible says is that he came to earth in flesh. God sent him down and he came.

Yes! If HE CAME to earth it means He's existing form retained.

When he was ascending into heaven, he would have been transformed to his glorious spirit body back.

No transformation here according to your doctrine.
1. His spiritual body doesn't exist anymore since He is now FULLY HUMAN, which means NOTHING in his spiritual body was retained in He's human nature.

2. At death the same human nature was completely destroyed without leaving anything behind.

3. To appear again means Jehovah have to recreate another Jesus after resurrection.

AkinwaleJJ:
"For where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there I am in their midst.” Matthew 18:20

I like this, it's only Almighty that can be in two different places at the same time.

That means Jesus will both be in heaven and earth at the same time for His statement on the cross to be true since the thief will be WITH HIM at the Paradise

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"teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things" Matthew 28:20

He said it and He's doing it today.

Did Jesus prove to be present (physically) as he promised in the two statements above?

The two statements are not the same with Jesus statement on the cross.

Both Matt 18:20 & Matt 28:20 are all before the CONCLUSION OF THE SYSTEM OF THIS WORLD

Jesus told him, "...YOU will be with Me IN Paradise..." which means the thief will be where Jesus will be after resurrection. whereas, the two statements above simply means Jesus is Almighty who can be at different places at the same time.

cornelboy:
First you need to know that inheriting heaven is not scriptural. It's inheriting the kingdom of heaven. Both are different.

Your palaver

I can't say I'm pure in heart, only God can judge that. Is anyone even pure?

Am I a meek? I'm not sure.

Maybe I'm poor in spirit though.

I'm not being persecuted for now.

That means neither kingdom of heaven or Paradise earth is sure for you.

Anyways, I Know your abode is the same with JWs father the Devil which is lake of fire.

One main criteria for inheriting the kingdom is being baptized by the holy spirit (born again).

So Jesus is lying in Matt 5 that those poor in spirit and persecuted for righteousness will inherit the kingdom of heaven

So if your poor in spirit or pure in heart and are not baptized by the holy spirit, you can't inherit the kingdom.

Then Jesus is lying at Matt 5 and to even know that you're the very person who brought that scripture here

It doesn't mean that some of the meek won't inherit the kingdom of heaven.

Keep changing mouth.

It's now "SOME" when Jesus says "THOSE"

All these just because you have donated your brain to those 8 Old lying men.

Someone that's pure in heart can also be a meek.

That means the person will inherit both kingdom of heaven and earth double inheritance

Only God knows the reward for each person. It might be inheriting the earth or the kingdom of heaven.

Yes He knows and already told us that THOSE who are pure in heart will see Him in other words inherit the kingdom of heaven and THOSE who are MEEK will inherit earth.

There are other verses in the Bible that say the righteous will inherit the earth. That doesn't implies that all the righteous will inherit the earth. Of course some will inherit the kingdom of heaven.

I love this, that means Bible contradicts itself or you're the one who gave wrong interpretation

cornelboy:
See am not as dull as you are.

The evidence is on this thread

Your only proving that the verses are contradicting.

No! Rather, it shows you don't understand the whole message in that Matt 5

The TRUTH is some will inherit the earth while some will inherit the kingdom!

The conditions of inheriting heaven and earth were all spelled out.

So kindly tell me which one you're not among these
1. Are you pure in heart?
2. Are you a meek JW?
3. Are you poor in spirit?
4. Are you being persecuted for righteousness sake?

Let's see the truth in your statement by providing simple yes or no to those questions.

[quote author=cornelboy post=111714489]What is this one saying na?

John 1:14
[14]So the Word (Jesus, a whole being in heaven) became human and made his home among us. He was full of unfailing love and faithfulness. And we have seen his glory, the glory of the Father’s one and only Son.

There's no way he could retain his glorious in flesh. He came as a complete human.

"He came" yet he couldn't retain his glorious in flesh, so what happened to his spiritual body?

Learn what exactly?

Truth of the scripture

I think it's only John that called Jesus the word. It's a title. No where in the Bible says that word was his name before he became human.
Use your brain Baba.

Only if you can use yours first

THE Word

The only clue is that Jesus was arch-angel Michael!

So what happened to his angelic nature when he became human?

cornelboy:
I'm not vexed o walahi talahi

I know

cornelboy:
Eyah
The reason you didn't answer the questions obviously is to save your face.

So after you know this, why do you still asking the same question Mr get Sense?

Why did you say my belief is same as Satan and I'm bound for destruction like him?

It's already answered above

cornelboy:
Ona go think say ona get sense like this

See vexation

cornelboy:
I'll ask the question again in another way:

Is your belief the same as Satan's belief?

Are you bound for destruction like him because you have the same belief as him?

Don't ignore those above questions na

It was never a question in the first place but I understand the reason you turn it to questions

achorladey:
The reason they hide under l[b]ight getting brighter and brighter[/b]

Romans 13: 1 Russell.............It means governmental powers of men.......UNCLEAN



Romans 13: 1 Rutherford......It means governmental powers of Jehovah...... CLEAN


Romans 13 : 1 Knorr and those that follows it means governmental powers of men..........UNCLEAN




Years back disfellowshipment or excommunication are rooted in PAGANISM doesn't exist in the Bible. In fact they are TERRORISM and TERRORIST acts carried out by the other religious denominations


Today, disfellowshipment or excommunication are loving provision from Jehovah. It finds it foundation in the Bible


The contradictions no be child's play. It is still on going and they keep hiding behind light getting brighter or IMPERFECT SPIRITUAL FOOD

No wonder they all hate their Old publications as if it's not the work of Jehovah and his mouthpieces

cornelboy:
You do like a kid Emusan

I know the ELDER

What's the meaning of:

That was a simple sentence

I'll ask the question again in another way:

Is your belief the same as Satan's belief?

Are you bound for destruction like him because you have the same belief as him?

It's dey pain am

cornelboy:
What did you mean by this?

I meant stop worshipping those 8 men in Brooklyn

cornelboy:
Lol
It's high time you started heeding to my advice.
Think well before clicking submit.

It's still paining you, eyah sorry ooo

I fully understand your post. You didn't even use any ambiguous word. It's straightforward.

1. You said my belief is nothing just like Satan's.
2. I'm bound for destruction with him because we have the same believe.

Better you know

You no even get shame. See how you exposed yourself

Vexation of the spirit has started

Na small small name calling will follow soon

Do you know that your believe is nothing, your bound for destruction like Satan and you still believe?

You copied this or vexation caused it?

achorladey:
Nothing changes the facts that JWs are Christians

Oh that conversation with one of your brother in Jehovah. Una still dey drag cursed and bastardized name with other religious denominations

I'm wondering oooo

You said a name has been corrupted and Jehovah gave another one yet still dragging the same corrupted name with us

Emphasis on any other version including New World translation of the Holy scriptures . As it were KJV is corrupt, NWT is corrupt. Na same of same

The same thing I just to him

cornelboy:
Lol. Your friend kolade would say this is a public forum

So how does this relate with my post?

Lol Satan is a JW/Christian now right?

Na you talk am

[uote]I'm a JW and also a Christian.[/quote]But the name CHRISTIANITY has been corrupted, why are you still the same thing Jehovah hate before giving the new name?

That's how those 8 men in Brooklyn can make one confused

Nothing changes the facts that JWs are Christians.

I'm not the one who claimed the name CHRISTIANITY has been corrupted and Jehovah gave another new name your organization did.

So you still claiming to be Christian is what I don't know, at least leave us with the corrupted name nah what is this attachee by force

Being worshipped is not the criterion for being God.

So why do they worship Jesus then? You forgot the main point

We have one God the Father. Even the olubadan of Ibadan is being worshipped everyday.

But Paul, Peter and Early Christians worshipped Jesus which means they know about Trinity

Jesus was begotten i.e created in God's image.

You're not the first that will say that

KJV is the corrupted version of the Bible

Then both NWT and KJV are corrupted then

cornelboy:
So what's your point gangan?

My points are that:

1. if only the meek will inherit the earth, that means people who will inherit the heaven are not MEEK?

2. If only those who are PURE IN HEART will see God, it means those who will inherit the earth are not PURE IN HEART.

3. If only those who are poor in spirit will inherit heaven, that means people who will inherit earth are not poor in spirit

4. If only those who are persecuted for righteousness sake will inherit heaven, you people lied that millions of JW are being persecuted for their beliefs.

Do you understand?

cornelboy:
Emusan Sorry did you mean Satan is a JW that's why we have the same believe?

You read it well.

If you still don't understand my post, wake up very early in the morning to reread it again.

Or I should just take you as someone that doesn't believe in God and the Bible?

Whatever rocks your boat

cornelboy:
Of course I do that's why I advised you to do the same.

Then it is settled

You have brain na. You should add the sense yourself

That means you don't have sense then

cornelboy:
Sorry help yourself

Then keep shut

Well my belief ain't like Satan belief. Despite the fact that he was with Jehovah in heaven, he went ahead to rebel and sin against Him.

I believe in Jehovah and His son Jesus Christ and the promise of eternal life.

That's your own palaver, the Koko is that you believe in Bible just the way Satan do. So to believe in Bible doesn't mean you have the truth

God's will, instructions, commandments and statues are all there in the Bible.

We know before you'll ever think of knowing that.

It's seems you don't know the meaning of Christ, Christian and Christianity.

Tell us!

Are you a Christian or JWs?

Well it's obvious that you don't follow them.
Only JWs follow Jehovah's words and commandments completely.

That's why I said, you're Jehovah Himself to have known this [center][/center]

JWs are the true Christians of today.

Says the same people who said the name CHRISTIANITY has been corrupted reason why Jehovah gave them another name.

So JWs are still the same TRUE corrupted NAME

A simple question for you;
Did Paul, Peter, the other apostles or the early church believe in trinity or one God the Father?

Yes! Reason why they worship Jesus and taught the eternal and uncreated being of the Holy Spirit

What did Jesus say about his Father in John 17:3?

You have it in your corrupted nwt, read it aloud please

cornelboy:
The beatitudes in Matthew 5 says that some will inherit the earth while some will inherit the kingdom of heaven.

Let's look at the qualification for both heaven and earth in Matt 5

3 Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

So not all JWs are poor in spirit

5 Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.

Those who will inherit heaven they are not meek, I guess!

8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.

Since human can't see God and all believers won't be in heaven, then it means, people who will inherit earth are not pure in heart

10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

If this is true, are millions of Jw not being persecuted today according to you people?

Adding this to people who are already qualified for heaven, that means 144,000 heavenly rulers will become millions corulers

haddeylium:
The Bible text had no punctuation marks as we know them today, so the translators into English are the ones who decide where to put quotation marks, dashes, commas, and fullstops/periods.

In Luke 23:43, some translators put the comma in the wrong place, changing the meaning of what Jesus was saying based on biased doctrines or might be a mistake.

Jesus was not saying “You will be with me today” because that day Jesus ended up in the grave, not in any Paradise.


Jesus meant he was promising the man “today”- that very day- that one day in the future that man would be resurrected to live in Paradise.

Putting the comma in the correct place (after the word “today”) correctly conveys what Jesus meant and is therefore the more accurate translation.

You people are very funny

So Jesus was lying to the man that, the man will be with him in Paradise when Jesus Himself won't be in the same Paradise but heaven

cornelboy:
It's good to think well before giving response.

Do you also think well?

I would advise you to do the same.

Your previous post was really senseless. You should add the sense to it yourself.

That's why I asked you to add sense to it, or are you without sense too

cornelboy:
Check it out yourself

Help me check it out

His believe is nothing. He's bound for destruction. He's doomed!

Just the way your believe is nothing, and bound for destruction with him as long as both of you hold the same belief

They've done a lot harm to true worship and Christianity

Are you Jehovah to have known that?

Also, what is your own about Christianity? Are you not JW

Jehovah words and commandments are all there in the Bible. If you can't see the truth, it's not my problem.

And it's the same Jehovah words and commands we're following as truth. So why can't you leave us and Jehovah? After all we are Christian and you're JW

cornelboy:
There's no sense in what you say.
Always try to think before you click submit

You Mr sense add sense to it.

I know you always over think before you press your own submit button