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MaxInDHouse:
Don't worry about more verses,

Don't hide here! Are those verses not in your translation?

OLAADEGBU should learn something from you:

He knows already so don't bother yourself about him

Both thieves are going to heaven since their bodies will be buried and their SPIRIT will go and represent them in heaven.

Yes and they'll both receive their judgement.

So what favour is Jesus' promise to the other guy?

That he will be with Him (Jesus) in paradise. That is He will be where Jesus would be while the other one will be sent to his own abode.

MaxInDHouse:
No worry jàre, Emusan said everybody both good and evil are going to heaven!

Yes going to heaven to stand before God.

Or you didn't read it your translation?

MaxInDHouse:
Why are you always angry nah?
I just marveled at the HIGH level of your wisdom!

Angry

I'm one of the happiest person on earth anytime any day

Well your organization possesses the same wisdom according to this Bible verse

"For we must all appear* before the judgment seat of the Christ, so that each one may be repaid according to the things he has practiced while in the body, whether good or bad.*+" NWT 2 Corin 5:10

Pay attention to that @underlined sha

If you need more verse I'm at your service

MaxInDHouse:
So everybody good or evil is going to heaven shey?

Walahi talahi this is tiri much fah!

You have finally crawled out of your shameless hole

But even at that your translation also support it

"For we must all appear* before the judgment seat of the Christ, so that each one may be repaid according to the things he has practiced while in the body, whether good or bad.*" NWT 2 Corin 5:10

RealTalker02:
Spirit means breath of life in that context, study

In other words the breath of Life of the wicked also goes to heaven

The spirit can't be breath of life because breath of Life isn't conscious to give account oof individual.

"Yes, each of us will give a personal account to God" Rom 14:12

Anything other than breath means people go to heaven, either wicked or good. Which is the dumb theology you are peddling

But your dumb theology above is glaring

Anyways, everyone goes to heaven at death but God sent them to their final destination.

If not scripture won't record that ALL MUST GIVE ACCOUNT TO GOD. Romans 14:12

If people didn't go to heaven, how will that possible?

MaxInDHouse:

MaxInDHouse:
Oh thank you Emusan!

You're welcome MaxinDHouse

MaxInDHouse:
Why must it be only Jesus that you think should have a say regarding the religion doing the right thing?

Should it have been you?

Why not other religions who are also claiming worshipers of God?

because they know that is left for God to do since they are not God, they have no power to do so.

So anybody claiming to know the people practicing pure worship simply equating him/herself to be God.

That's why it's on the judgment day everything will be laid opened. Why because know man has the knowledge and only Jesus knows every man's heart and deed.

If there shouldn't be a specific group practicing pure worship then why must it be all about what Jesus have to say?

No wonder you can't point to a single verse where Bible talk about this SPECIFIC GROUP.

Remember Jesus himself claimed to know it all {John 14:6} so if there shouldn't be any group then it means whatever Jesus said is irrelevant!

After you said, "Jesus claimed to know it all" you still went further to say "if there shouldn't be any group then it means whatever Jesus said is irrelevanct" does this make sense?

This very statement is strictly against your posit because if Jesus claimed to know it all, then Jesus should have spoken about the specific group.

RealTalker02:
Do you really peddle this weak and dumb idea?

No! Though it's weak and dumb to you.

Every man's spirit return to God in heaven after death. Good or bad, wicked or righteous, Heartless or kind.

You're right here! But why did you go further to state the below?

It's like you're confused

This is not the persons, or it would mean everybody goes to heaven.

You said above and I quote "Every man's spirit return to God in heaven after death"

So is EVERY MAN'S SPIRIT NOT their own self or what are you insinuating?

Definitely, everybody goes to heaven at death

Janosky:
The renowned Medical Journal, "The Lancet", has debunked these misleading claims intended to malign Jehovah's servants.

Nairaland Moderators,why do you permit this fellow to continuously violate Nairaland Rule 8?

This one here is really pained to marrow

Always cry like a baby to mods, no mods on nairaland will deliver you JWs from their failed prophecies and many errors of the past

TUEH !!!!!!

Really pained you, Pele

haekymbahd:
Apostle Paul claims Work is useless only Faith is required to inherit eternal life.

It just so unfortunate that you don't know what you're talking about.

You lied that Paul claims "WORK" is useless.

From the Scripture you cited, it was "work of THE LAW" that keeps coming up. So how did you reduce it to just WORK?

Could it be ignorance or dishonest in you?

New King James Version
Galatians 2 vs 16
knowing that a man is not justified by the works of THE LAW but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works OF THE LAW; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified.

Look at the @color parts and see whether you understand what you're saying or just decided to attack a strawman argument.

Now James beleives otherwise now James was said to be brother of Jesus while Apostle never met Jesus while on earth he said:

New King James Version
James 2
14What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him?

17Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

What James and Paul are addressing are of two different things.

Paul is teaching transition from the old LAW to NEW CHRIST JESUS while James is teaching on evidence of faith through work

What did Jesus really say about this do christians work?

Mathew 5: 18 For truly I tell you, until the sky and earth pass away and perish, not one smallest letter nor one little hook [identifying certain Hebrew letters] will pass from the Law until all things (it foreshadows) are accomplished.

19 Whoever then breaks or does away with or relaxes one of the least [important] of these commandments and teaches men so shall be called least [important] in the kingdom of heaven, but he who practices them and teaches others to do so shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness (your uprightness and your right standing with God) is more than that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven

What did Jesus really teach?

Your answer is in that @color part, even though you quoted that scripture but it's evident you don't understand what you quoted.

Go and search on articles that have dealt with "The Law in foreshadow of Christ Jesus."

Or better read this epic one Here!

cornelboy:
Are you also here to catch fun like your comrades?

And what is your problem with that?

Whether you were given a proper burial or died in an ocean or burnt to ashes, death is death. Your automatically in your grave.

Imagine see nonsense talk.

But you claimed everyone will go to grave.

But God has the power to raise you up with a perfect new body in the future.

So what will God raise if the body has rotten and nothing survive it?

What fits this your description is RECREATION which Bible never talked about.

When God say the wicked will die, he really mean it. They won't continue to live in any imaginary hell fire like religion says today.

Your obsession with what RELIGION SAYS today is what is keeping you in perpetual bondage of slavery to those 8 lying old men in Warwick.

Yet religion is doing great for Jesus winning more souls than your demonic organization couldn't achieve for over 100years.

cornelboy:
How does Satan have the same believe like I do, is he now a JW?

Ask him he's your father

I try to help you and say that Satan belief...:

Anyways, you're not the first lying liar JWs

That's not where our discussion about Satan started.

And you said:

After saying this;

Still jumping like kangaroo

Are you okay? Why you keep lying?

Yes! You're not okay

The spirit of your father the Devil isn't in my so I'm not a liar like JWs

Who's the empty skull, me or you?
Who's jumping up and down like kangaroo, you or me?

E pain am

That's how you think.

I never said anything like that.

Denying time has come

When you said "Satan believe in the Bible"
I gave you the right response saying his beliefs are nothing, he's bound for destruction and doomed. Knowing and having the truth can't save him.

Lying liar, check from the beginning of our discussion.

But you have been here jumping up and down comparing my belief with that of Satan's.

I didn't! Since your brain is too dull to comprehend things, that what is causing you this body painment now

And I have asking you, is Satan now a JW?

He is the leader of JWs

Does he have the same believe as you do?

Me and your father the Devil have nothing in common.

You will always wallow in your foolishness and pride.

Says Mr sense whose skull is full of dust

cornelboy:
Okay so your not interested in the new word Jesus was talking about right?

Your opinion!

Because it doesn't correlate with your wrong idea of life in heaven abi?

And it correlate with your wrong idea of life on earth

Are part of the followers Jesus was talking about that will rule with him?

What is he saying here Mr Sense?

If everyone in Nigeria is in aso rock and part of the government, who will the rule on?

Ode.... comparing heaven and Aso rock

It's your pride that makes you think you will rule together with Jesus the King in the kingdom set up in heaven.
Na you them dé find?

You said below that it's God who will choose the people will go to heaven, yet saying here now that, it's my pride that makes me think, I'll rule with Jesus in heaven and to crown it at you said "Na you then de find"

So if you claim as you don't know who will be in heaven earlier, how do you know I'm not the type God will choose?

Can you see how nitwit you are?

You too will say you have the holy spirit like this o
Don't be decieved, you don't have it.

Thanks for let us know you're Jehovah to have known I don't have Holy Spirit.

Paul, the disciples of Christ and the rest of the 144000 that God will choose from all corners of the earth are the ones to rule with Jesus in God's Kingdom.

So God will choose people from ALL CORNERS OF THE EARTH yet you can boldly say I'm not the type needed

The kingdom will eventually come to earth and restore it.

How does correlate with my pist

Go and present your have baked knowledge to someone else not me.

Of course I'm doing which is the reason you here on this thread.

I have all the pieces put together to make a whole picture.
Only the JWs have the whole thing figured out.

Your opinion

cornelboy:
Okay show me where the Bible says that paradise is heaven.

Were you blind when you quoted my post?
because if you're not you should see this

2 Corinthians 12:4 4 who was caught away into paradise and heard words that cannot be spoken and that are not lawful for a man to say. NWT

If the comma is before today, your translation portrays Jesus as a liar cos he never went to heaven that day.

Jesus went to heaven that same day, or wasn't He committed His SPIRIT to Jehovah?
Read Bible you won't.

He was dead in the grave for three days and later spent 40 days on earth after God raised him up before he ascended into heaven.

So His spirit He committed into His Father's hand was where, in the grave with Him?

AuthenticKing:
Well interesting

Ok

Before the coming of Christianity to Nigeria, we had the traditional religion that our forefathers practiced with so much devotion and reverence. They had so much superstitious beliefs that seemed so realistic and true to them. They saw their gods as the most powerful, not until when Christian and Muslim missionaries came with their religion, demonized ours and many of you now see it as evil and the foreign religions as light.

I don't see the correlation between this your point and my post or the thread as a whole.

Suddenly, the gods our forefathers extolled as powerful gods are now seems as man made powerless gods that can easily be destroyed by the Christian God (let me focus on Christianity since you're a Christian)

So what is my business with that?

If the gods of our forefathers extolled as powerful as you think, let them fight the Christian GOD and dethroned Him.

Or you see anything wrong in that?

The truth is that substitution techniques were used in such a way that some practices of the traditional religion were replaced with Christians (and Muslim) practices but it's just that the later were seen as the light and the truth.

Well your opinion, the gods you're talking about are beings, if they feel they were substituted for another god let them judge the people they are gods over or come together to fight for their right against the Christian GOD.

Or are you the one they send to fight for them?

But why am I writing that above? If you were still living in those times. The spiritual explanations that would have been given to you by both your grandma and pastor or any other person would have been connected to the traditional practices of those periods and their gods.

Where did I talk about SPIRITUAL explanation in my post?

I said I dreamt and they COME TO REALITY.

Same would have happen if you were raised as a Hindu or Buddhist or Muslim or Jew especially if you were raised in countries where those religions are pre-eminent.

Are you sure you understand my post or you just decided to throw out your own point using my post?

But all these religions and superstitions are man-made (I know you wouldn't agree with me). These religions and superstitions were invented to explain man's deepest and unexplainable questions about life and the universe and to some extent, I've never been against them but detest the extremities of their practices.

What is superstition in my post?

You created this thread seeking for people's opinions about Meaning OF DREAM, I shared my own experiences yet you're tagging it as SUPERSTITION.

Dreams are subconscious realities and whether you believe they come from God or anyone, it's the same reality expressed in different ways.

Yet you're seeking people's opinions on dream when I didn't even have give you any explanation but my own personal experience

If you're comfortable with the diabolical explanations that come with dreams, I don't buy into it.

Can you tell me the diabolical explanation in my narrative?

I'm asking the question on the OP on Nairaland because I want to hear from those that have transcended dogma and superstition so I could learn more from them.

Yet you could not explain how my own experiences mean superstition as I shared here.

Thanks for your response anyways.

You're welcome!

TenQ:
What did Jesus Himself say:

Jesus statement has no effect on them even though they claimed they are the real friends of Jesus

Jesus said that He wasn't a Spirit but Flesh and Blood
Luke 24:36-39.
"Now as they said these things, Jesus Himself stood in the midst of them, and said to them, "Peace to you." But they were terrified and frightened, and supposed they had seen A SPIRIT. And He said to them, "Why are you troubled? And why do doubts arise in your hearts? Behold My hands and My feet, [b]THAT IT IS I MYSELF./b] Handle Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have.""

Look at the @underlined phrases very well.

How can Jesus say "IT IS I MYSELF"?

I use to say that only a poor English student will read this statement of Jesus Christ and give it another meaning.

what the desciples thought they saw was a SPIRIT (which they will be right in the first place if Jesus is actually a SPIRIT)

So why would Jesus take His time to correct that impression of not being a SPIRIT but FLESH when He is ACTUALLY A SPIRIT?

Is the mystery any JWs can't solve.

The physical Body of Christ was indeed raised in power according to 1Corinthians 15:42-45
1. Not subject to pain (in spite of the wounds)
2. Not subject to physical limitations (can appear and disappear at will)
3. Not subject to death again

They will never understand that 1 Corinthians 15:42-45 despite the fact that they use it to proof Jesus as a spirit

But how to understand those statements of Paul? Simply substitute "It" with what Paul was describing and ask them, is it correct?

For example:

1Corinthians 15:42-45
42 So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it(The body) is raised imperishable; 43 it(The body) is sown in dishonor, it(The body) is raised in glory; it(The body) is sown in weakness, it(The body) is raised in power; 44 it(The body) is sown a natural body, it(The body) is raised a spiritual body.

What was sown in perishable?
What was sown in dishonour?
What was sown in weakness?
What was sown in natural body?

This same "thing" that was sown is that which was raised imperishable, raised in glory, raised in power and raised as a spiritual body (a body like that of the resurrected Christ with no physical limitations.)

This simple is too hard for them to comprehend.

If Jesus was resurrected as a spirit, where then was His physical body after burial?

Jehovah destroyed it.

Yet they can quote Psalm 16:10

MaxInDHouse:
In as much as i love sharing my time with people who wants to learn or say what they know, i easily get pissed off with those using abusive speeches.

Yet you welcome your brothers who are abusive

So Mr Emusan do you want to have a tactful conversation having to do with reasoning from the scriptures or you just want to abuse based on the attitude of some you've been chatting with?

Who asked you?

Leave matter for Mathias, nobody begs for your reply. All these your tactics doesn't work on me.

If you want a tactful conversation then i will oblige so we can see that the resurrection Paul was talking about here is not for all!

Story....

If you can't reply my post nobody will arrest you.

Just press ignore button

MaxInDHouse:
So is it with the resurrection of the dead. What is sown is perishable, what is raised is imperishable. It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power. It is sown a physical body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual body. Thus it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit. 1Corinthians 15:42-45 Revised Standard Version

Who is the last Adam that never raised in his PHYSICAL BODY but in a SPIRITUAL BODY so that he became a LIFE-GIVING SPIRIT?

Is this verse ONLY talking about Jesus resurrection or resurrection of all dead people?

But see the way you later link this ONLY to Jesus resurrection which supposed to be FOR ALL RESURRECTION

Let's explore those verses above:

"So is it with the resurrection of the dead."

Meaning ALL the DEAD.

"What is sown is perishable, what is raised is imperishable."

Which means the same body that is sown the same is RAISED

"It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory."

The same body sown the same raised in glory

It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power.

The same body the same raised in power

"It is sown a physical body, it is raised a spiritual body."

So do you agree that ALL RESURRECTION will be raised in spiritual body?

"If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual body. Thus it is written"

Which means all resurrected people will have spiritual body

“The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit

Which means all resurrected people will became a life-giving spirit too, do you agree?

genkins:
But all the people whom Jesus met were healed and all those who asked him to help resurrect thier loved ones were resurrected.

@color is pure lies.

When the pharisees asked Him for a miracle He didn't

People like you would have said it's because He is fake that's why He couldn't do miracle in their presence

Janosky:
Colossians 1:15" Jesus is the first born of every Creature.
1 Corinthians 1:24 & Proverbs 8:22-30,"the Wisdom/Craftsman created by God as the first of God's works."
"The Wisdom" refers to Jesus Christ as
"The Word" refers to Jesus Christ.
Emusan Lienus

Yes He is the first born of every creature, but not the first CREATED of every creature.

Sifia pains of 3 deities polytheist

His GIBBERISH is not in any Greek Bible texts

So the verse I provided was from Japanese Bible, this worshipper of 8 lying old men self, anyways I understand your frustration.

"Ho Theos is the Head of Christ", 1 Corinthians 11:3 Bill Mounce Greek Interlinear Bible.

Nobody disagree on that JaNosense

Solid Evidence that Paul & Philipians 2:6 is in Concord with 1 Corinthians 11:3.
Apostle Paul disgraced Emusan Lienus tay tay

That phi 2:6 is still giving you severe pain because Christ is equal to God

Apostle Paul who wrote 1 Corinthians 11:3 & Philipians 2:6 the proof Mr Lienus lacks " simple comprehension", conflicting Jesus proof at John 14:28.

At least you can't disprove Phil 2:6 of Jesus having equality with God as confirmed by Paul.

Your LYING claim is not in any Greek Bible texts.
Oga, continue to console yourself .

Phi 2 is in Watchtower Bible I guess

We know the great consoler here

chatinent:
Her life wasn't part of the money business. Lol.

I believe you'd have said the same thing about Jesus, had it been you live during that era because not all the people who died during Jesus life were resurrected by Him nor all the people with infirmities were cured.

Janosky:
Paul saw a vision.
Confused Lienus.

Yet Paul was on earth when the said person was CAUGHT UP INTO PARADISE

Janosky:
Your Trinity mentors confirmed that they do not understand 2 Corinthians 12:4 and "Paradise " meaning 'Eden' & by their admission, everything about Paradise is in the earthly realm.

Oga,stop confusing yourself.

The Mr run around has started

So People are already living in Eden for Paul to say the person "...HEARD WORDS that cannot be spoken and that are not lawful for a man to say"

JaNosense talk another thing

cornelboy:
Luke 23:42-43
[42]Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your Kingdom.”
[43]And Jesus replied, “I assure you, today you will be with me in paradise.”

The fact is, Jesus was nowhere but the grave for three days and after God raised him he spent another 40 days on earth before ascension to heaven.

Were you inside the grave with Him

Was the comma placed wrongly or was Jesus lying knowing that he won't go to heaven that same day and will be with his disciples 40 days after resurrection?

The comma was place in the right place by majority of Bible translations and Jesus wasn't lying because He can't lie. It's you who is making Jesus a liar.

The comma should really be placed before "today" to make that verse coherent.

“I assure you today, you will be with me in paradise.”

The lie from the 8 lying old men infused in your dull skull donated to them by you.

Paradise is not the same as heaven. The paradise Jesus meant here is the new earth.

Lying liar just because you've donated your brain doesn't mean you shouldn't try to use it sometimes.

2 Corinthians 12:4 4 who was caught away into paradise and heard words that cannot be spoken and that are not lawful for a man to say. NWT

Is Paradise here heaven or earth?

If Jesus wanted to say heaven, he would have said heaven.

Peace.

Jesus used Paradise which means heaven, you can show us the scripture where Paradise = Earth without your own conjecture.

cornelboy:
In conclusion, everyone that died goes to the grave/hell.

What of people who died in the ocean or fire burnt to ashes?

No part of him continues to live like most religion teach today.

So what will Jehovah resurrect if NO part continue to live?

A dead person is same as a dead soul.

Tautology

He has no life in him, he's dead.

Has anyone ever claimed that there's a life in DEAD before

cornelboy:
When did Satan start reading and believing in the Bible?

You agree that Satan believe in Bible. Why asking this?

How did Satan believe the Bible the same way I do?

You tell me, at least you agree he did.

Why would I be bound for destruction like Satan?

because Satan and you have the same believe in the Bible.

Were you referring to me personally or everyone that believes in the Bible?

Anyone who holds the same believe as you do.

If your trying to prove that though the devil believe the Bible but doesn't have the truth, it doesn't make any sense.

You agree on this same thread that Satan believe in Bible. So does Satan have truth for believing in the Bible?

His beliefs doesn't apply to my beliefs about the Bible.

Who says it does?

One funny thing about you empty skull JWs is how you people use to forget the subject matter by jumping up and down like kangaroo.

Satan knows the truth more than humans. Always try to reason na.

Simple question, does Satan have the truth?

This can also mean since Satan knows the truth definitely those your organization depicted as Satan followers also know the truth.

You don't know how ridiculous you always sound.

2 Peter 2:12
[12]These false teachers are like unthinking animals, creatures of instinct, born to be caught and destroyed. They scoff at things they do not understand, and like animals, they will be destroyed.

How does this contribute to the subject matter?

You better wake up. If you can't manage your brain yourself, donate it to the 8 men asap.

You want me and you to be on the same level of ignorance.

Even your lying 8 Old men in Warwick need to donate their brains to me for Bible insight.

cornelboy:
You half baked knowledge of the scriptures won't do you no good.

Simply because you lied that you don't know where your end will be whether it's on Paradise earth or invisible spirit in heaven but I helped you that your organization knows

It's time you asked for more wisdom or donate your brain to the 8 men you esteem as Gods.

I esteem them as gods or you take them as gods.

Besides, I'm not that dull, spiritually blind or can be deceived by the Devil to donate my precious brain to those 8 lying old men in Warwick

John 3:3,5 NLT
[3]Jesus replied, “I tell you the truth, unless you are born again, you cannot see the Kingdom of God.”
[5]Jesus replied, “I assure you, no one can enter the Kingdom of God without being born of water and the Spirit.

What Jesus meant here is crystal clear. Only those that are born of the spirit can enter the kingdom.

I agree with Jesus in that verse but do you agree with the same Jesus when He said

"The pure in heart will see God"
"Those persecuted for righteousness will inherit the kingdom of heaven"

If someone is naturally a gentle or meek person and doesn't believe in Jesus and Jehovah, there's no way he could have eternal Life on earth talkless of seeing the kingdom.

So where was the word NATURALLY MEEK appear in that verse?

Out of your dull brain, you pull that out when that's not what those verses are talking about.

We even see from the scriptures that no one can be pure in heart or righteous without being baptized by the spirit. We are sinful by nature.

Now, we are talking.

Since no one can be pure in heart or righteous without being baptized by the spirit. It means all the people who will inherit the earth are not pure in heart and righteous.

Remember once you are baptized by the spirit,your abode is automatically heaven

Wahala for the followers of these lying 8 Old men.

Meekness, enduring during persecution, righteousness etc are fruits of the spirit.

Galatians 5:22-23 KJV
[22]But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
[23]Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

Now compare this with that gebbrish you first spew.

Can you have fruits of the spirit without being baptized by the same spirit?

Matthew 19:27-28
[27]Then Peter said to him, “We’ve given up everything to follow you. What will we get?”
[28]Jesus replied, “I assure you that when the world is made new and the Son of Man sits upon his glorious throne, you who have been my followers will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

I'm more interested in that @underlined part.

So are you a follower of Jesus Christ or not?

We see from this above verses that the rewards for the apostles is to judge the new world (paradise) together with Christ.

So how does Russell and his pagan team fit in into that verse?

Or only the apostles (in which Paul was not part of) who are with Christ at that time when the statement was made by Jesus are the one who will sit with Him?

Dem no go dè heaven forever. The kingdom (Jesus, the apostles, and the rest of the 144000) will fully come to earth to judge it.

So people who are with Jesus at that time are 144,000 in number

They will defeat any opposing human/Satan government and authority and restore peace to earth. Daniel 2:44.

Yet the whole earth will burn at the fight of Armageddon where fire will destroy everything and only JWs will survive

It's evident you don't understand what you're talking about.

After Jesus has fulfilled his mission, he will hand over the kingdom to GOD the Father who will rule over everything including Jesus himself. I Corinthians 15:24-28.

Nobody asked you this.

Revelation 21:1-3
[1]Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the old heaven and the old earth had disappeared. And the sea was also gone.
[2]And I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven like a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.
[3]I heard a loud shout from the throne, saying, “Look, God’s home is now among his people! He will live with them, and they will be his people. God himself will be with them.

Yet in most Watchtower depiction of paradise earth, they use to show body of waters, but the verse you quoted says "and the sea was also gone" can you spot the lies or limited understanding of the scripture here?

If you can't figure these things out yourself, I would advice you to donate your brain to the 8 men god.

I've figured it out that's why my brain can't be donated to those lying 8 Old men.

Only people with empty skull can donate their so that it'll be filled with gebbrish and inaccurate scriptural knowledge.

Janosky:
John 14:28"Remember what I told you: I am going away, but I will come back to you again. If you really loved me, "You would be happy that I am going to the Father, who is greater than I am"

John 20:17
" Jesus replied:" I am ascending to Father and your Father,my God and your God"
Emusan, Jesus Christ is NOT equal to his God.
Emusan are you equal to your God?
Mr LIENUS DECEIVING himself

[b]
John 14:28 & John 20:17, does Jesus Christ lack comprehension?
No, NEVER !!

Yes the Father is greater than Jesus when He became part of CREATION, not before He was not part of CREATION.

That's what Phil 2:6

Emusan is qualified to give Satan tutorial on LYING

You can sense since your organization is the Satan I'm giving tutorial

I challenge Emusan to give proof of any of my quote from CEV,OJB.

Your blood is getting hot, calm down and reread my post again.

Empty skull JWs.

Just be disgracing yourself online instead of enrollment in a competent English class.

Emusan no just get shame dey lie anyhow!
John 14:28, Jesus Christ have proven that All your Trinitarian distorted version of Philippians 2:6 are spurious & FALSE.

Phi 2:6 is your tormentor whether you like it or not Paul said Jesus has equality with God.

Your Bible distortion won't change that fact irrespective of any version you run to.

I have a question for Emusan:

Emusan is capable to thrash your questions anytime any day.

Is 1 Corinthians 11:3 in your Bible?

Very well, even your father the Devil won't dare touch it the way he influenced your distorted NWT

Paul wrote Phillipians 2:6 & 1 Corinthians 11:3.
Paul & Jesus Christ have proven that ALL your quotes of Phillipians 2:6 are in fact DUBIOUS.
Oga, repent

That's why I do say you lack simple comprehension.

Phi 2:6 tells us who Christ is before becoming part of CREATION while 1 Corinthians 11:3 is about who Christ is during His mission.

That's why I use to say and I'll continue to say that the day you people will be able to distinguish between when the scripture is talking about The Word as not part of CREATION and The Word when He became part of CREATION is the day your deliverance will be secured

cornelboy:
Only Jehovah knows that.

But your organization know

Sorry lake of fire is symbolic not a literal place.

Whether symbolic or literal place you must follow your father the Devil to his abode

Learn under people wey know, ona no gree.
Okay go learn on your own, ona no understand. Oga gan o.

Learning from empty skull

Weren't the disciples of Jesus persecuted?
Are they not peacemakers?
Were their heart not pure?
Were they not poor in spirit (but they were strengthen with the holy spirit)?
Were they not meek among them?

That's why all of them are in heaven now.

Is that not so?

That's what it seems to in your post.[/uote]



[quote]Are you telling me that just anyone that is a peacemaker or poor in spirit or persecuted for righteousness sake will inherit the kingdom even if he's a Muslim or from any other religion?
Learn baba.

Ask Jesus who says THOSE...

You go see reason for you too to donate your brain.

Donate my brain to people who I'm far knowledgeable than

Clap for yourself. You go still learn.

Yet I didn't read anything meaningful in your post since

What do you understand by inherit the earth?

Building different Kingdom halls and resell it for more profit

Jesus didn't say they will see him o. He said they will see God.

And the dull brain is priding in his ignorance.

That point Is for your post where you said "Jehovah has given His command..."

Olodo oshhi

What's was the conclusion I gave you when you were saying your own?

You tell me

You remember when I said "what is your point gangan?"

And I told you, or you didn't see it?

I said you were only proving that the Bible is a contradiction.

But it's evident that you're the one who is doing that.

I will give you a brief conclusion on that chapter later.

Give your brothers in the hall they need it more than me.

cornelboy:
So Jesus was giving the man false hope and also lying that he would be with him in paradise (which according to you is heaven) that same day but actually both of them ended in hell/grave.

No! The bodies ended up in grave while their spirits went to heaven

Pls is the grave same as paradise?

No!

After Jesus's resurrection he lived here on earth for another forty days.

Which Bible did you read it from that JESUS LIVED on earth for another FORTY DAYS?

Today wey Jesus promised the thief still never end? Or is earth now heaven?

It ended that same day.

You see your interpretation and reasoning is very incoherent.

Your interpretation and conclusion, not mine

Even if Jesus went to heaven that same day he died, there's no way the thief could be with him.

You know more than Jesus who promised thief that they will be together the same day.

Reasons:
1. He was not born again i.e baptized by the spirit or born of the spirit.

Are you with him on the cross?

2. The holy spirit came more than 43 days after Jesus's death.

This is because you lack scriptural understanding.

The Holy Spirit only came to prepare the desciples for the great work ahead that day, Holy Spirit was around during the life of Jesus.

Or is it not the same Holy Spirit the Father anointed Jesus with?

In conclusion Jesus was talking about the future earth paradise

Nothing like "EARTH PARADISE" in the Bible that's another word The Watchtower is using to confused you. So your conclusion has no hold on the scripture.

cornelboy:
Emusan's claim:



My reply;

"His believe is nothing. He's bound for destruction. He's doomed!"

Your response;



Pls Emusan, what did you mean by this your above statement?

a). Is my belief nothing because I am a JW?
b). Is Satan a JW, that's why we both have the same believe?
c). Did your god told you that I hold the same belief with Satan? Or how did you know?
d). Are you directing that to all Christians or what?
Pls kindly explain what you really meant to me.

I replied:

"Well my belief ain't like Satan belief. Despite the fact that he was with Jehovah in heaven, he went ahead to rebel and sin against Him.
I believe in Jehovah and His son Jesus Christ and the promise of eternal life."

Your response:



a). Which source did you get your information from?
b). Do Satan really believe in the Bible of just your assumption?
c). Are you emphasizing that I personally believe the Bible just the same way Satan did?
d). Do all Christians believe in the Bible like Satan do? If yes, are they bound for destruction too?
e). Do you believe in the Bible differently from Satan?

Pls simply answer these questions. I'll appreciate it

Just a single post that is tormenting you like this

This single response from me has answered all your questions.

That's your own palaver, the Koko is that you believe in Bible just the way Satan did. So to believe in Bible doesn't mean you have the truth

Even a toddler won't find this to understand